The Immortal Rook Lift by 11-year old Josh Waitzkin
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"Heaven Can Waitzkin" (game of the day Jan-26-2005)
Open (1987), New York, NY USA
Sicilian Defense: Four Knights Variation (B40)
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 e6 3. d4 cd4 4. Nd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 Nc6 6. Be3 Bb4 7. f3 d5 8. Bb5 Bd7 9. Bc6 bc6 10. e5 Ng8 11. a3 Ba5 12. b4 Bc7 13. f4 Ne7 14. Na4 O-O 15. Nc5 a5 16. c3 Nc8 17. O-O Nb6 18. Qg4 Nc4 19. Bf2 Qe8 20. Rfe1 Bc8 21. Bh4 Kh8 22. a4 Bb6 23. Rad1 Bc5 24. bc5 Nb2 25. Re3 Nd1 26. Qg7 Kg7 27. Bf6 Kg6 28. Rg3 Kh6 29. Bg7 Kh5 30. Rg5 Kh4 31. Nf3#
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Somewhere, in the continuum of time and space, Michal Tal shed a tear at that glorious rook and queen sacrifice.
So corny. Tal was alive when this game happened and he probably knew about it.
I like to imagine that Tal and Nezhmetdinov high fived when they saw it.
What a devious little kid. That was amazing.
omg truer words have never been spoken
Lol did he stick his hand out offering a draw after opponent took his rook knowing it was all over? Like the movie*
right, that was sick
Aren't all chess victors devious? But I suppose his being a kid only amplifies that deviancy.
+the savage Nope, devious is accurate.
Faceless hoodie guy doesn't usually fare well in these games
A string of bad luck.
That's exactly why they are faceless.
Before you can be a master you must be an apprentice
he should just pick a random stock photo nextime and we would never know
Faceless hoodie guy...AI???
When your opponent and the adults in the room think you're blundering your rook and queen, but you're unleashing forced checkmate in 6. This play seems brilliant to me.
It was
It was the arrogance of the adult he was playing that allowed for Josh to take advantage. I play every person like they are a grandmaster, even if I know they suck. I never underestimate anyone, and this game is proof of why no one should underestimate their opponents.
@@deridivisstar884 It wasn't necessarily arrogance. There's a rule in chess: if you can't understand why your opponent is offering material, take the material. Either you will find that the sacrifice was unsound, or you'll learn something. The mate that Waitzkin played was very unintuitive -- especially considering Rg3 was much more obvious than Waitzkin's actual idea -- and Frumkin had no reason not to take the rook unless he could find the mate himself.
@@furrykef If someone offers material, I immediately think it's a trap. That's when I study the position very carefully before taking the seemingly free piece.
@@furrykef exactly, I saw the move rook to g3 before bishop f6, but even if it looks good at first, the king can actually escape.
I completely missed the option of bishop to f6 first.
When someone who's good at something blunders...
IT'S A TRAP
I wonder if Josh said, "Oh no! My rook is hanging!!!" Finegold, style
@@12jswilson lol, qg7, what now, my boy?
Such a beautiful line.. I have taken screenshot if your line..
Or a blunder!
It's a 'Tal' move.
I played pinball with Josh at a tournament in Allentown during his young prodigy days. I had no idea it was him until after I saw him playing in the next round. He was not a great pinball player. But as he had thanked me for allowing him to play doubles pinball with me, later I realized I experienced firsthand a key point of Searching For Bobby Fischer. Despite the tremendous chess talent, he just relished being an ordinary kid. Doing ordinary kid things like playing catch in the yard with Dad. Or pinball with some guy he bumped into at chess tournament.I doubt he remembers it. But because of his humility and general "coolness" it remains one of the top highlights of my life.Stay cool, Josh. In everything you do. Best regards, Jim Jumper
cool story
James Jumper nice experience
Wow. That's a beautiful fairytale
If he's really like the movie portrayed him (and from your comment it sounds like he is) then he probably does remember that. Fondly.
People with "tremendous chess talent" usually become world champions
7:23
Me: of course I see, its pawn to g3
Pawn to g3 works as well. Mate in 3.
@@robbierotten2215 Yeah, rook to h5 would do it.
Because I'm not very good, it took me a while to see it! 31) g3+, Kh3; 32) Rh5+, Kg4; 33) Rh4 mate
I saw the same thing lol
@@GlorifiedTruth It's about manouvering the rook actually
And it was in this position that Josh disappointed his father 😂
No wonder he quit chess and was viewed as only caring about how he appears when he plays
HOW IS IT POSSIBLE TO LOSE IN 7 MOVES???!?
Dumbledore asked calmly
Who punished him severely
I had to watch that twice. That's one of the best plans I've seen.
The best?
Try analysing plans of Mikhail tal!
Swayam Ananda Das
They said, "one of the best" not, "the best".
It is an opinion which many share.
Swayam Ananda Das lol.. 11 year old and he hatin... smh..
I don't know how many times I've watched this,absolutely beautiful!
@Swayam Ananda Das
I guess you overlooked the words “I’ve seen”.
"Hello everyone", is the most comforting thing I hear all day.
Underestimated the little fellow! 😂😂😂 Just a bit, that little fellow destroyed him in a very painful way. Classic comment!
Haha. But it can be weird psychologically playing a child. Long ago, I played a guy who's now a 2475 rated IM, back when he was age 7. He was sitting on two phone books when we played. In a drawn endgame, he stood on the books to reach his little hand across the table to offer me a draw. I declined, something in me not able to take a child seriously. I then took the famously bad approach of trying to force a win in a dead drawn endgame and... I lost. A lesson for me long ago to play the board and never the opponent... cuz the board does not care how many phone books you're sitting on :)
Josh Waitzkin showed me the great depth and beauty of chess. This is the best game in the world! It was a great pleasure learning from him. It was a magical time. Thanks a lot Josh!
His book he wrote as an adult The Art of Learning is probably one of the best self help books I've ever read. Changed my mindset
Thank you for using quotes from the chess players involved in the matches themselves! It’s really nice to see your attention to detail and how your videos are developing.
Anyone rewatch the ending sequence to the video like 5 times? what an amazing finish
I did. And each time I was more impressed. Yes, it looked like Josh lifted the rook just to pile up on the king side. But moving Rg3 on the next move after the lift would have lost tempo right after losing a rook. Josh _had_ to sacrifice the queen first in order to be successful. And I'm thinking, who would even consider sacrificing a rook and a queen on consecutive moves with so many pieces still on the board? Who would picture walking black's king all the way to h4? When thinking about the sequence from the point of sacrificing his rook, I never pictured his Bg7 move, either. I also never considered the knight being the final killing piece until ...Kh4.
I'm not much of a chess player, but if the real experts are impressed with this, then I don't feel _too_ dumb for considering it so amazing.
@@Astrobrant2 Morphy, Nezhmetdinov, or Tal. Take your pick.
That kid lifted that Rook better than I do at the gym.
Then lift queens
Sounds a bit gay. Nothing wrong with that, if that's what you're into.
Fonzleberry 😂😂😂😂
If they're heavy, all the better...
Dutch word for rook is "toren", meaning "tower". Lifting towers has a different ring to it no?
Seeing these games is frustrating for us low level players.. I can often see a 'good' sacrifice, but making errors calculating is so common.. you miss one possible defensive move 5 moves later, and all of a sudden that mate plan fails and you're down a piece or two.
After the rook sac and then the queen, it's a sure thing. Good checkmating skills allowed him to see it. Double sacs to get to a mating position are counter intuitive to me. I got better when i stopped chasing complicated plans that always seemed to backfire and focus on good positioning and tactical protocols like posting and overloading positions. Then the winning moves fell into my lap and I didnt need to see 4 or more moves ahead which is not my strong suit.
Yea, I feel you problem is it's almost impossible to win against a really good player without calculating
Delon Duvenage i agree
@Delon Duvenage I've noticed the same thing myself. That's why I play pretty much only on a tactical level rather than strategic. My overarching strategies always fall apart, but my winging it tactics are usually better.
@@imapopo2924 you're a popo
When you exchange a Rook and a Queen for a King.
Fair trade 😂
"Ha ha, you give me Rook! Hahahaha, you give me Queen! .... ohhhhh...."
"Hahaha, you give me king!"
I met Josh, he came to my job to play some of the kids there. I was the only one who knew who he was and the movie based on his life. I also mentioned how I learned so much from his tutorials on Chess Masters. I played him and he destroyed me.
"I have never considered myself a prodigy." phrase could only come from a truly humble prodigy.
Thanks for the Waitzkin game! Can't wait to see more in the future.
You do the best chess match breakdowns. Really appreciate the insight and perspective you provide.
thanks for put more of joshes games, they are wonderful and when you hear him explain the principles and ideas behind moves it gives you a new way to play the game
Brilliant!! The more I watch these videos the more i realize that hanging on to pieces does not neccessarily guarantee a win. Positional play is key in Chess. With a good position you can use only three pieces to make someones life mserable
Don't forget about the "survivourship bias"
Steven , truly
correct: the Shi is EVERYTHING
Steven ...Yes, well stated...time and time again pieces are sacrificed for positional dominance. I am lousy at this aspect of the game...
The other epiphany one has is that, it's not the squares your piece's occupy, it's the squares that they are threatening. Every now and then I'll pause a game and count and see which player's pieces are attacking more squares, if that players king is reasonably safe, that player will usually win.
I didn't see that queen sacrifice coming. Well played.
Beautiful game. I come back to watch this every now and again. Keep up the good work agadmator.
I LOVE your software highlighting the "from" and "to" squares for the current last move! Makes all the difference, much easier to follow. Thank you!
I'm not much of a chess player myself, although the game fascinates me. But for the first time this game has giving me a glimpse how beautiful chess can be. Thank you very much !
Since you posted that comment, agadmator uploaded a video titled "This is Why Chess Will Always Be Beautiful".
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If you want to skip to the good part, go to 12:24. Take time to notice how tight this is for both players and how many blunders white could make that would result in a stalemate. There is literally only one move white can make to win after black's ...Qb7.
It'll blow your mind.
Great analysis on one of the more interesting games I’ve ever seen!
Fantastic, thanks so much for bringing us this.
Game lasted two years. Waitzkin started out 9 and finished the game at 11.
He was so adorable, noone would have thought he was a little monster
Good times when I used to play Chessmaster. :)
I still do :)
arrowghost 🎩
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@@abduljalal5727Huh , the softwere is not sold anymore !!! 😞
Really used to enjoy it
@@vineethnarayan1811 Piratebay has the 1.02 version and it's very easy to install.
@@MultiErland thanks mate , which check it out
Beautiful. Like a work of art.
Your videos and your commentary are awesome! Also, this is by far my favorite game and Josh Waitzkin is my all-time favorite chess player!
Wow. What a brilliant game.
I recently re-installed an old copy of Chessmaster 10th Edition on my computer, with all the Josh Waitzkin tutorials. Waitzkin pretty much taught me most of what I know about chess, especially the endgame. Amazing guy. Sucks that he quit. And yeah he was definitely a prodigy as a kid.
Thank you. One of my favorites.
Now that was an excellent presentation. I loved it!
wow, rook and queen back to back sacrifice. that would be hard to see regardless.
you have a great voice brother...all the videos you make are awesome...some guy is copying you style of presentation but unfortunately his voice/knowledge sux...you are the best youtube chess video reviewer...
O yes, with that voice ...he could be a soprano at the Manhattan Chess Club....
My favorite analysis of some real magic. This is what makes it all worthwhile for me
Svaka cast ! Sve pohvale agadmator samo tako nastavi !
"11-year old Josh, although, maybe he was ten, I don't really know, played..." classic agadmator XD
I met Josh at a tournament in Connecticut many years ago where he played Reshevsky. My impression of him at the time was that he was too nice a person to succeed at the highest levels of chess. He didn't seem to have the Killer Instinct, the excessive will to win, or the necessary character flaws to be a world champion.
To be the greatest at something you have to be obsessive is what Eddi le Hall said the 2018 worlds strongest man are you saying the josh just didnt have that kind of drive
Which is exactly what his movie was all about.
Paradigm Shift i kind of agree but i think you’re majorly forgetting about the personality of Spassky. He was a gentleman who did not possess typical competitive behaviour, he just enjoyed the game and happened to be the best at his time before potentially the best ever chess player dethroned him...Fischer may have been what you described: an obsessive player with killer instinct, but the truth is he was just one of a kind or could beat anybody.
My point being that you may be onto a correlation, but ultimately Josh could have made if he wanted to. An excessive will to win is not always necessary.
@@jdlessl a boy's journey through the junior chess world and the obstacles that results from his journey.
It also includes messaging about what it means for parents to raise a child in a competitive field for kids.
He is a World Champion in Martial Arts so he has the killer instinct... IT'S A TRAP
Wow, what a game! Thanks for posting!
I really like how you explain all the games. It given me a renewed interest in the game.
Waitzkin covers this game himself in the tutorials of one of the Chessmaster programs. It's an entertaining account. Apparently after lifting the rook he ran off to find his father to show him the rest of the game, leaving that grandmaster wondering why the kid was so excited about losing a rook. Also, this was the first time Waitzkin beat a grandmaster.
Yeah exactly I remember I saw this game on chessmaster
i don't think Frumkin was ever a GM. His FIDE profile simply says "No Titles". His US rating is around 2000 and he gained US National Master in 1992.
@@JimTDF Exactly, Michael Morris is an idiot with incorrect facts, yet has 53 likes to his dumbass comment. Frumpkin is NO Grand Master. His play this game wasn't even worthy of his FIDE Master ranking.
@@11rockiton czcams.com/video/Qf_mpaMJwng/video.html
Waitzkin says he's a master himself.
@@JimTDF czcams.com/video/Qf_mpaMJwng/video.html
Rookie mistake :)
Rooky mistake
I saw what you did there!
Or rook 'e' mistake.
HA HA HA HA
Thank you for sharing this... my favorite one so far! So cool how this ‘misdirection’ played out. Helped me see how Josh could see many moves ahead. Wow!
Wow. I haven't played chess in years and watching this game has really made me want to dust off my board. Thank you!
He’s now a Brazilian Jiu jitsu black belt at the Marcelo Garcia academy in New York
And I bet he gets his ass handed to him easily
@@BratvaTV Why?
He's the co-founder of said New York academy. He also has multiple U.S. medals in Taiji Push Hands and was the 2004 world champion.
I find it amazing that all sorts of gifted people enjoy Jiu jitsu. The star from "Married With Children" is also is a Brazilian Black belt. You know the guy that scored 4 touch downs in a single game for Polk High School.
@@BratvaTV says the batman nerd
I like this style. Never play defensive when you can play hyper offensive. Always be looking to sacrifice for better positioning.
Thank you SO MUCH for this!!!
I admire your passion for rook lifts. Keep up the good work!!
It looked kind of innocuous til the queen went kamikaze.
It was a sweet combo, maybe somewhat easy to overlook in that White was hanging a piece that if captured meant Black would be hitting another again-more-valuable unprotected piece, encouraging Black to think it needed to be moved, after which the defensive Rg8 looks to be covering the bases.
This game could almost be called the Immortal Intermezo :)
KamikaDze.
Edward Frumkin looks like Nazgul
Nazgul: "No man can defeat me"
Josh: "I am no man. I'm a kid."
Checkmate.
I knew Ed Frumkin in Rochester, NY. He organized the chess club there. A very nice man!
Brilliant game - thanks for adding the background as well.
That is one of my favorite chess videos. Thanks.
The audio book for the art of learning is also narrated by Josh Waitzkin himself. So if you liked the Academy from Chessmaster, I'd highly recommend the audio book.
Imagine the shock it caused the opponent when that queen was sacrificed and he gradually realized that there wasn't a way out.
idk why but everytime i start playing badly at chess, i find myself coming back to this vid bc it’s just so badass and it cheers me up lol
This is such a great website! Thank you.
6:25 yo that's one very fast king. He jumped to g7 in 1 move
Waitzkin should have offered him a draw when his opponent took that rook.
why?
To save some dignity for his father?
@@EternalHappElements on the movie searching for Bobby Fischer, Josh offers his opponent a draw on the final match after realizing his opponent made a fatal mistake.
Oh ok lol
@@akmd114379 Hahaha that's funny
Awesome match...a very clever rook and queen sacrifice. I loved it!
That was amazing. I really enjoyed that.
Could I suggest that you stick with one color for the border of the board when the game played is being discussed but switch to another color when you are discussing other possible moves and the consequences of these. This way we have a visual way of knowing what you are talking about. Other than that, solid channel mate.
That's not a bad idea. That or some other way of letting us know when he is exploring possibilities. I'm thinking maybe putting a second board on the screen just for such sequences. While I consider his screen layout very nice, we don't need to see him or the other things for brief periods of time.
I can usually follow when he does that, but I do get confused sometimes. It would be nice to have the original position as a constant reference.
I'm always looking at rook sacrifices when creating attacks on the kingside. You have two, so if you can give up one to gain a tempo or remove a defender, the other rook along with a queen may be enough to force mate. Especially when the opponents rooks are themselves inactive, and his only idea is to gain a material advantage.
very nice channel. All games I 've seen so far have your commends straight to the point without more words than really needed (like most of chess channels in youtube). Thanks mate, keep it going
One of my favorite games. Period.
I'm just waiting for one video where Faceless Hoodie Guy pulls off a miraculous win.
Kinda like if the Washington Generals ever beat the Harlem Globetrotters.
I don't play chess all too much and i'm just wondering what the hell a rook lift is...
Getting one of your rooks in front of one of your pawns.
A rook lift is simply a move in which the rook goes from the back rank to a higher one
A minor surgical procedure which removes the wrinkles from the rook.
This, this is my favourite game. Thanks for sharing :)
That Chessmaster course was how I first learned the game. So frikkin perfect. I was so hooked. I could not stop watching it. I remember annoying some coworkers because we were all packed on a bus for a work trip, and I had my laptop out nonstop watching that damn course. I need to find that again. His annotated games are worth the price alone.
Damn he brought his king out to the centre while everyone watched and shot it in the face :O
The computer would have said he made the wrong move I bet.
I'm certain the engine I use would!
@@nickzee7723 nope NNUE Stockfish13+ says the best move is the Re3 on move 25 at depth 34 because capturing the rook is forced mate.
You do help us find the beauty; thank you for sharing
You are a fantastic chess teacher. Thank you!
The King was 'dragged out of the castle and trampled by the Rook'!
well he was dragged out of the castle by a bishop, cornered by a rook, and killed by a knight.....while a bunch of pawns watched.....
"Franklin got the rook and he also got his king on h4" ,😂
Brilliant! And great storytelling.
That was incredible. When he took the bait and the check. Ooof I had to replay
Josh moved on to physical chess 😁
Northeasy taiji chuan, the game of unlimited movements
Hamking1 Taichi is a shit martial art
Uggly Boi ALL martial arts are for retards.
+Pie Guy No, it takes experience. The current masters of GJJ are uneducated morons.
Here's one of those uneducated morons I was talking about.
Don't move before you see it...
Robi_CK Holy, holy, HOLY FCUK ! ! ! !
EVERYTHING wrong about my game that is crap is because I do NOT follow your axiom.
Now I am going to imprint it on my simpleton's brain and maybe get somewhere with my chess game.
The B E S T A D V I C E E V E R..... Thank You !!!!
James Arte - That advice from Robi_CK is a quote from the movie Searching For Bobby Fischer, about Josh Waitzkin.
@@rodmact6548 talk about looking stupid 😂
He says that in Chessmasters.
I believe that it was said before Chessmaster, actually. He is right that it was a quote from the movie 'Searching for Bobby Fischer'. More than likely Josh's teacher Bruce Pandolfini actually said the quote in real life, although what was really said was "Don't move until you see it."
Thanks -- this was an especially great video!
Thoroughly enjoyed this 😀
That tutorial in Chessmaster 11th Edition is what hooked me on chess and it elevated my understanding of the game to a whole other level! Glad to see you agree with me on the quality of that Virtual Chess Academy. In my opinion the best place to start for a beginner and it's also very inexpensive! Funny how Josh really ended up "like Fisher in a sens.." The game of chess in this age, I also have a problem with it. today, it's almost more about memory than anything else.. All about the best "engine move" and whatnot. I understand how it got to that point, but sometimes I have much more fun playing games full of "inaccuracies", and where me and my adversaries don't know all the perfect move. It's much more exciting and creative. But hey, that's just my opinion. Ps: the grandmaster edition is basically the same but has a little bit more content, mostly related to Josh's book.
Me too - this was actually one of my favorite games from that - this one and the on vs Luna and also vs katina, which was very similar to the Luna game - same position reached after 6 or 8 moves
Who came here after watching “Innocent Moves” from Netflix
Me...😉
JOSH WAITZKIN CAN COMPETE IN CHESSBOXING
'The current minimum requirements to fight in a Chess Boxing Global event include an Elo rating of 1,600 and a record of at least fifty amateur bouts fought in boxing or another similar martial art.'
Loved the way you explained the game and told the story at the same time
WOW! That was crazy. Loved it
You know you're a chess nerd when you can say you read "Searching For Bobby Fischer" five years _before_ the movie came out.
Do you even rook lift ? 😏
One of my favorites as well.
Josh breaks it down so well in his ChessMaster series.
Had to watch that twice! Amazing
When I saw it first time .. I'm like ""whaaaaaaaat ????????""
The kid sacrificed his rook & his queen at age 10!
Its a little scary what he gonna do at age 20!
He's 42 now...
@@thegaminglemon9085 really?
@@thegaminglemon9085 He decided to become a Tai Chi and BJJ master instead of continuing chess, which is interesting.
6:25 aaahh yes.. king captures with check. This Waitzkin kid is a genius
Josh went on to study Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu under one of the best in the world, Marcelo Garcia, and is now a black belt.
I believe he said that BJJ was like physical chess for him. So he never stopped using his amazingly analytical mind - he just refocused.