The Rise of MS13 and Militarized Mexican Drug Cartels | Borderland #5

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  • čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
  • Today is the second in a two-part series on BORDERLAND, examining the MS13 gang and the massive crackdown taking place in El Salvador.
    Last week, we spoke with Alex Papadovassilakis and Steven Dudley of the organization InSight Crime, to talk about efforts to clear the country of gang violence, the 70,000 people who’ve been arrested, and the mega prisons that are housing them.
    This week, we do a deep dive into the origins of the notorious street gang and how they differ from Mexican cartels.
    The fentanyl crisis, what is tranq (as well as how it became such a massive and dangerous problem in areas known for street drugs), how these drugs are coming into the country, and what can be done to stop it.
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Komentáře • 133

  • @thisisironclad
    @thisisironclad  Před 6 měsíci +4

    Check out our clips channel for more content to watch - www.youtube.com/@IRONCLADClips

  • @thechi2848
    @thechi2848 Před 5 měsíci +55

    Cartels would not be as powerful if not for government assistance on both sides.

  • @joetayson397
    @joetayson397 Před 5 měsíci +22

    I'm in Maryland. MS13 has been here forever. They are everywhere.

    • @tittiesinmyface-cv1iv
      @tittiesinmyface-cv1iv Před 4 měsíci

      I live in the san Fernando valley in cali Thiers a street here and their taggings are everywhere

  • @topdog73
    @topdog73 Před 4 měsíci +5

    I admire how this guest is well informed unlike other youtubers or different newspapers 😮😮😮

    • @adox8574
      @adox8574 Před 2 měsíci

      What did he say that everyone doesn't already know?

    • @RaisedxFist
      @RaisedxFist Před 13 dny +1

      Unorthodox

  • @Goofyjigga360
    @Goofyjigga360 Před 5 měsíci +10

    My biological father is an MS13 member idk my biological father but I hope he gets arrested.

  • @Mr_Farfi
    @Mr_Farfi Před 6 měsíci +9

    Really enjoying this series. Thank you

  • @barnabykent6698
    @barnabykent6698 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Wow, this has a very high content vs noise ratio. Fascinating in-depth analysis.

  • @bignoseYeu
    @bignoseYeu Před 6 měsíci +9

    Anyone remember when los zetas would pull over immigrants from central America and check their tattoos. If you had any ms tattoos. You were getting picked up and disappeared

    • @slevinkulina
      @slevinkulina Před 6 měsíci

      I know the Latin kings did this to me in North Humboldt Park, chicago many many times walking through to k town. But always cool in county. Neutron here.

    • @Destroyer-s2e
      @Destroyer-s2e Před 6 měsíci

      I had read an article that said that it was rumored that they went at it for a few months until they eventually called a truce. It also said it was on a reliable source but couldn't confirm . And they both lost members on both sides.

    • @phonymex3340
      @phonymex3340 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@slevinkulina Lol a street gang who are a bunch of broke crackheads vs a Cartel Group is very different

    • @flonkplonk1649
      @flonkplonk1649 Před 2 měsíci

      They had MS13 working for them

  • @codygranrud6212
    @codygranrud6212 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Awesome work, very educational.

  • @missmurderem
    @missmurderem Před 5 měsíci +9

    We owe them nothing. They can wait in THEIR country. THIS is the EXACT reason why the situation is so bad. Because of "empathy". Its being weaponized against us.

    • @TA-wc8zz
      @TA-wc8zz Před 5 měsíci

      MS13 is a US originated gang, they didn't become gangsters until they become part of the marginalized groups in LA.

  • @user-io6pj8bz8h
    @user-io6pj8bz8h Před 6 měsíci +6

    Don't blame it on absentee parents. That has never been a problem amongst Euros.

  • @spaceman8839
    @spaceman8839 Před 5 měsíci +4

    They are in the United States by the thousands now … FJB

  • @MoellerMike1977
    @MoellerMike1977 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Have to take out the major Cartels like America did in Colombia and Mexico needs to copy El Salvador, on a much greater scale. W American took out the major Cartels in Colombia in the 1990s not stop Drugs and drug trafficking, but to keep Colombia from becoming a failed nation-state. Again, most Americans have no idea what is going on the Border and South of the Border in Mexico. I posted this before.
    We are not dealing with gang or mafia like like in America. America and Mexico are dealing Cartels are made up of former elite-trained personnel of the Mexican and various Central American militaries that were trained by best of the best of the French, Israeli and American militaries.
    Again, If one wants an idea what the Mexican government is going through on fighting the Cartels, this would be like the Los Angeles, El Paso, Miami, or New York Police Departments had to take on and get into a firefight with 60 members of the 101st Air Borne Division, or members of the 75th Ranger Regiment or Marines of 1st Marine Division or members of America's special operations command.
    That would not end well.
    And what would a Wall or gun control or the Immigration Bill do to stop any of this?

    • @Balla1309able
      @Balla1309able Před 4 měsíci

      Greatly put together! Right on

    • @phonymex3340
      @phonymex3340 Před 4 měsíci

      They don't know this information. They don't care. Sadly. Great input though 💯

  • @user-cq6pn7if5c
    @user-cq6pn7if5c Před 6 měsíci +8

    A LOT OF THE JOBS PEOPLE WONT DO FOR THE LOW LOW PRICE, ITS NOT THE JOB, ITS THE UNDERCUT PAY THAT MAKES IT INSANELY LOW, AND CUTS THE LOWER WORKING CLASS WAGES ACROSS THE BOARD AS WELL!!

    • @pinkoslayer
      @pinkoslayer Před 5 měsíci

      Jobs people won’t do is something that the slave owners say to silence the sheep. The middle class and blue collar watching their industries being staffed by imported cheap labor know the reality.

    • @michaelmcgee2026
      @michaelmcgee2026 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Calm down

    • @RaisedxFist
      @RaisedxFist Před 19 dny +1

      I said the same thing pretty much on another issue.

  • @gabrielvela5011
    @gabrielvela5011 Před 6 měsíci +4

    I’ll love to learn more about serbian criminal organizations operating in the U.S. that specialize in gun trafficking to Central America and Europe. Same old same, I’ll like to know more about what is less obvious to the untrained eye.

  • @navy80to04
    @navy80to04 Před 5 měsíci +17

    Our government and cartel are the same group different color.

  • @emmanuelperez541
    @emmanuelperez541 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Coco would be so proud

  • @deezysthadonsworld1138
    @deezysthadonsworld1138 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Bro your podcast is sick

  • @user-wb4cp7se7f
    @user-wb4cp7se7f Před 6 měsíci +4

    Hey Rocco you down with Metal?

  • @MDM0915
    @MDM0915 Před 6 měsíci

    Thanks…great episode.

  • @jonathanramos8414
    @jonathanramos8414 Před 6 měsíci +7

    Im surprised he didn't mention the Salvadoran civil war 1979-1992. It was one of ronald Reagan's major foreign policy issues.

    • @eswinc7731
      @eswinc7731 Před 6 měsíci +1

      He did not mention the role of the peace agreement in El Salvador and Guatemala and how this impacted the development of this gangs…

    • @lockandloadlikehell
      @lockandloadlikehell Před 5 měsíci

      That he fomenteed.

    • @jonathanramos8414
      @jonathanramos8414 Před 5 měsíci

      @@eswinc7731 remember the CIA was highly involved in helping train the salvadoran military in counter insurgency against the FMLN. School of the Americas. Also where the zetas were trained at too

    • @markcook9941
      @markcook9941 Před 5 měsíci

      Yup for sure. That was a pretty hairy I guess their not that old but panama elsalvador Honduras to Columbia was enough to keep you sharp

    • @jonathanramos8414
      @jonathanramos8414 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@markcook9941 yeah latin America during the cold war was pretty shadowy

  • @brainwashed2586
    @brainwashed2586 Před 6 měsíci +2

    This dude I never even been to El Salvador

  • @georgelabelle5938
    @georgelabelle5938 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Cartels all work with and for the government

  • @_nick_d
    @_nick_d Před 6 měsíci

    Bicycle Casino in LA was partially funded by Miami drug dealer, like 30M in early 90’s.

  • @thebaps1143
    @thebaps1143 Před 5 měsíci +2

    It’s fascinating to me that so many Americans think cartels are like our gangs. They fear MS 13 but do not understand how organized, well funded, politically powerful and violent the Mexican cartels really are.

  • @manuelunzueta8809
    @manuelunzueta8809 Před 6 měsíci

    That’s crazy that your grew up in the valley I’m born and raised in the valley I grew up on Langdon st one of the ghettoest hoods in the valley

  • @codygranrud6212
    @codygranrud6212 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Shout out to Sombre Negra. :)

  • @dcesar117
    @dcesar117 Před měsícem

    At first in the title i read boogerland

  • @unclerog
    @unclerog Před 5 měsíci +1

    Howdy from the Last Best Place on Mother Earth...Montana...Great GREAT Video Guys...I learned much...LOVE IT!!!

  • @shawncash6285
    @shawncash6285 Před 6 měsíci +2

    From mobsters to Microsoft

  • @user-anc123
    @user-anc123 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Its inhumane to the American citizens

  • @jw5297
    @jw5297 Před 6 měsíci +3

    It is naive! Sorry but i can't just go to Australia or Nee Zealand and just stay there.
    Both and many nations globally require visas and if you're staying must provide documentation and approval before you can just go.
    Why should America be any different?
    The security risks are not worth overlooking for feelings.
    We gave laws, and the first act you want to take being here is to immediately be a criminal!?
    What precedent is set!
    What does that say about laws imposed?
    If its okay to knowingly and willfully violate federal law, then why does any law matter we feel is unjust?
    Mexico is not doing anything about the issue now, and likely making shitloads of money from the very operations breaking our laws. Your solution is to pay them more money for the same behavior, what world are we living in!!!
    Unlike Mexico, the US gets its funding from its people, so we should keep paying the tab.
    Sorry but NO, the border must be closed, and people seeking to enter the US do so legally.
    Everything else is a perpetuation of the problem.

    • @pierceh.5670
      @pierceh.5670 Před 5 měsíci

      We will stop paying taxes before they close the border

  • @wealthygypsy416
    @wealthygypsy416 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Outstanding citizens those gangs are they provide a good piece of funding for the cia & fbi they will continue to grow. Don’t worry citizens will never revolt

    • @markcook9941
      @markcook9941 Před 5 měsíci

      Absolutely. Lots of Ducky's Rollin to fund wars for training. Airdrop jungle force

  • @justinhorn2864
    @justinhorn2864 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Liberal voters say awe let's help them and open the border

    • @xmachine7003
      @xmachine7003 Před 5 měsíci

      Send the liberals and their money across the border on a mission if they feel so strongly that they want to help.

  • @Shilohii65
    @Shilohii65 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Near the end 40:00 mark this guy starts to sound more liberal than American. Their problem becomes our problem only because we refuse to mandate that Mexico fix their own problems. When did we become the fixer of every country that is affected by evil, by corruption, by inept country governments to successfully run their own countries? If your leadership is not doing well, then get better leaders. Sure there’s world commerce to be considered and foreign affairs, but for the USA to “FIX” every failing country’s problems is just not plausible or feasible. If that is to become the case, then the USA will become what we never intended to become, and that is the authoritarian figure head, like the British and Roman Empires, of many foreign lands.
    Is that what you’re referring to?

    • @51234ad
      @51234ad Před 4 měsíci

      Ignorant comment

  • @barbarahunter6960
    @barbarahunter6960 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Sir we do those jobs. The problem is in the payment.

    • @Clipanomics-mk2yb
      @Clipanomics-mk2yb Před 6 měsíci

      Wym payment? There’s some workers making 2k a check

  • @user-io6pj8bz8h
    @user-io6pj8bz8h Před 6 měsíci +2

    Wr need a real look, not a cultural marxists opinions and feelings.

  • @rickybobby1844
    @rickybobby1844 Před 5 měsíci

    818 in the house !!!

  • @alejandrocota5949
    @alejandrocota5949 Před 5 měsíci

    I’m from Ensenada and cub was definitely a narco property

  • @2RebelNomads
    @2RebelNomads Před 6 měsíci +1

    🎉

  • @deshb22
    @deshb22 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Dudes just regurgitating information everyone already knows

  • @krisser92
    @krisser92 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Ms had a green light a couple years ago cuz they didnt wanna pay the tax

  • @brainwashed2586
    @brainwashed2586 Před 6 měsíci +4

    It always amazes me how these so-called gang experts have so much insight and information about something they themselves have never been a part of. All of their so-called l fact is Information Gained second hand and repackaged to continue a narrative and a view that solely represents their own

    • @JK-vi3jm
      @JK-vi3jm Před 6 měsíci +1

      You gotta learn Spanish and lose atl 20 IQ pts before you can truly understand these th-gs.

    • @cathyvain7046
      @cathyvain7046 Před 5 měsíci +1

      And how do u know no one else represents their view? Are u an expert on that?

    • @brainwashed2586
      @brainwashed2586 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@cathyvain7046 your goddamn right I am lady

    • @themetaphysicalaxe5506
      @themetaphysicalaxe5506 Před 5 měsíci

      I mean all in all it's a gang and they're all the same, mostly, so kinda easy to be an "expert"

    • @brazydee420
      @brazydee420 Před měsícem

      Uh oh white krio keyboard warrior triggered! Yeah. Again gangs are pretty simple to break down. All & new structure over time and future. Always informants that tell it first hand so.

  • @claudiaclaudia936
    @claudiaclaudia936 Před 5 měsíci

    MEXICO =#1 DRUG PUSHERS
    🤠👍🏿

  • @QuixEnd
    @QuixEnd Před 5 měsíci

    You cant draw an imaginary line where one side is wealthy while the other side isnt, and expect the absurdity of it all wont backfire

  • @user-nk8ww9ce9k
    @user-nk8ww9ce9k Před 5 měsíci

    MS20 for life!

  • @glenmeyers1360
    @glenmeyers1360 Před 6 měsíci

    0:14 0:14 0:14 0:14

  • @lundysden6781
    @lundysden6781 Před 5 měsíci

    ms13 dont doit

  • @7thGenWill
    @7thGenWill Před 6 měsíci

    You guys think if Rocco was a Roman during the great fall he would have referred to the barbarians as “ undocumented”?

  • @nicholas2827
    @nicholas2827 Před 5 měsíci

    This guy seems well meaning but elitist

  • @johnpancap844
    @johnpancap844 Před 5 měsíci +3

    No thank u to globalization

  • @DickBeaudoin-jw6wy
    @DickBeaudoin-jw6wy Před 5 měsíci

    This guy is delusional, and saying it out loud doesn’t work out well for others. Enjoy your visit to any major city in America or South America and let me know if they are not on another level,

  • @2RebelNomads
    @2RebelNomads Před 6 měsíci

    🎉

  • @2RebelNomads
    @2RebelNomads Před 6 měsíci

    🎉

  • @2RebelNomads
    @2RebelNomads Před 6 měsíci

    🎉