Fujitsu Lifebook T902 Un-boxing and Short Review
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
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This is a quick unboxing video and short review of the Fujitsu T902...sorry about the quality of the video - I used a poor camera which actually caused several issues for me. Anyways, several clips and nearly a week later, here is what I have.
I didn't go into much detail regarding the user experience of the software itself, however, as I said in the video, if there were any features or tests that you wanted me to include in an additional video, feel free to leave a comment and let me know and I'll see what I can do for you.
Update - The computer arrived about 2.5 weeks ago, though I've only been using it for the last week as I had originally planned to return it when I found out I wouldn't be able to configure a mSATA SSD, but after some thought, I ended up taking it back out of the box and decided to keep it and order a 256GB SSD for the main drive instead. Here is a quick update.
Overall, I'm really impressed with this thing. The honest fact is, there is not another tablet that offers a capacitive touch experience within the Windows environment that comes with the CPU, graphics, and I/O that heavy users require. This, unfortunately, is also the reason for the steep price...but I really think it's worth it. Everything is, for the most part, seamless. Though I am hoping for a better touch experience with Windows 8 which will hopefully be more fluid when it comes to touch interactions (zoom is still choppy in most applications). That's the only real grievance I have with the touch experience. Fujitsu included some useful apps which help to optimize your touch/mouse hybrid experience, for instance - there is a touch launcher app which gives you the ability to toggle certain features quickly from a sidebar, and one of them includes the ability to quickly disable the touch digitizer allowing only the stylus and mouse to interact with the PC. This is useful when trying to write with the stylus, so that your hand can rest on the screen at the same time.
Other than that, I am also getting used to the chiclet keyboard, and I have also noticed some minor software bugs. For instance, when I go from switching between tablet mode and laptop mode, sometimes the laptop touchpad's integrated scroll becomes reversed. But a quick reboot fixes it everytime, and by quick, I mean SSD quick :) And also, with some gestures, I find that different unintended events occur - for instance, the menu bar gets pulled down every once in a while within Chrome when I am scrolling down, but I'm thinking this might have to do with pre-configured touch gesture actions which are adjustable, I just haven't gotten around to checking it out.
So, that's all I got so far. Again, wouldn't trade this thing for anything. I just wish they would have allowed a quad-core chipset. Hope it helps!
*Update (2) * - So now I have been using the laptop for about 5 weeks, and there are some notable points I wanted to make for you all. I'm still overall impressed with the laptop, however, I've seen the following additional issues:
The whole glitch thing where when I'm in Chrome and I try and scroll down with the touch screen, it brings up the native Windows tool's menu....super annoying. Also, it will randomly zoom out when only using one finger, but mainly only seems to be an issue on Google Drive (again in Chrome) and also isn't super responsive in some apps when it comes to zooming in and out (particularly Chrome)....since this is a software thing, I'm not too concerned as again, I'm banking on Windows 8 here. But I thought it would be worth mentioning.
Additionally - the edge of the screen doesn't seem to be very responsive to the pen. Like it can't recognize quick movements very well. If I track over at a 'slower' rate, it looks fine, but when I speed up (liking writing notes in OneNote), it doesn't log all strokes accurately. This only seems to be within about 1/4" of the edge of the screen, so really not THAT big of a deal, and hopefully a driver or software upgrade of some sort might fix? I don't know. But I thought it would be worth mentioning.
And finally, battery isn't stellar. Looks like I'm getting about 3.5, maybe 4 hours out of both batteries installed, though I am only charging them to 80% to conserve the life of the batteries, so add on another hour to the total time if you choose to fully charge the batteries. Again, something you all might want to know before any big purchases. Unfortunately, the modular 'extended' battery is only 2800 mah, which really isn't that large - would have helped a lot to make it bigger, but may have added to overall width of machine? Who knows...
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Great overview, thank you. Quick side note - the modular plastic bracket is for weight saving in lieu of leaving your CD ROM behind,
Ravi Peiris M.D.
Yeah no problem man. I'm strongly considering this tablet, and this video has helped a lot, especially since there still aren't any professional reviews out there as far as I know, and that you get back to any questions is even better =)
No - it's completely seamless. The pen is prioritized over touch inputs so basically finger-touch is disabled whenever the pen is detected. This is obviously aimed at improving the pen experience better given that your hand will usually be resting on the screen whenever you are writing/sketching with the pen. But there is zero lag - there are both in an 'always on' state, it's just that it doesn't recognize touch inputs whenever the pen is detected.
You got it! Glad it helped! I can't tell you how long I waited for CNET or somebody to do a review on this thing before I bought it, but it never happened. So I figured I would just do it myself.
Just to elaborate a little further, I'm not at all really experienced with graphics design, though I am with video editing. I would imagine graphics design does not require nearly the resources as real-time HD video editing does, so I assume it will be fine. If your question was more geared towards 'is the tablet as a whole efficient for graphics design?', instead of performance, I would say absolutely - again, the tablet experience is pretty incredible overall. Hope that answered your question.
I'm with you 100% - lack of quad core and discrete was disappointing....but this is the best convertible tablet option we are going to find at this point.
I started using Pinnacle studio for some movie editing stuff and it actually performed pretty well. I think that Cyberlink software was causing a lot of my issues...I haven't done any multi-track editing though - I think that will be the real test. I'll followup when I have.
And yes, you can configure one of the buttons for screen rotation.
The viewing angles are actually really good. The fact that it's LED and has Gorilla Glass is probably attributable to this. Contrast and colors seem to be great even from 75 degrees either way, all that seems to suffer is brightness. I feel less qualified to speak to color quality, and I don't know if this thing is considered wide color gamut or not, but I think the colors are also rich and vibrant. I'm not very informed when it comes to screen quality though-I apologize.
Glad the video helped!
Sweet man sounds good - also, you can use the modular bay to install another large SSD there as well. You're looking at quite a fee if you are going to install 2 large SSD's, but another option if you need more memory.
Update me once you've finished your setup and let me know what your boot time is like.
Thanks. Yeah, I'm thinking about getting one. I would love to see a video of it too!
Second answer - no. If you're main drive is solid state, it won't really be of any use to you to use the mSATA port, unless you just want some (expensive) added storage. Though, it's also good to order Fujitsu's because I believe they will configure your chipset to support RAID configurations which is a must have for multi-drive configurations. Mine doesn't support it, and unfortunately I can't fix this with any software upgrade. But 1 single SSD is good enough for me anyways. Hope this helped.
Sorry - I wasn't ignoring your question. Just thinking about how to answer it haha. Compared to my T5010, it's about the same? I mean you can't see a clear reflection of your yourself when the screen is off/black. It's just slightly blurry I suppose. I mean when the screen is on you can't tell at all, it's very clear/vivid in my opinion. That help?
I actually used it for the first time today in class with OneNote (awesome application for the stylus), and it was great! As good as any other pen-enabled device. Waacom has been making these things forever, so they know what they're doing :)
You also have the ability to calibrate it if you don't like the stock feel.
thanks man! super psyched I decided to stick with the customized i7 as well. I just ordered my custom build today, how long did it take for them to build yours and ship it out after you ordered?
They changed the mod bay size and the locking mechanism for the T902? Thanks, that was the info I was looking for. Guess I'm stuck buying the more expensive caddy.
OneNote - all the way. It's an awesome note taking application - I like it a lot better than Journal. And I don't really do any CAD stuff. Mainly web design/minor amounts of video editing. Hopefully will have time to get back into it so I can speak to the machine's performance when editing multitrack projects.
Really sorry about the late reply.....I don't actually know if the screen is IPS or not, but the viewing angles are actually really good. I can see/read everything on the screen (including colors) up to like 80 degrees left/right of center (obviously it becomes difficult to actually read text/images at those angles, but the point is its good performance)
Windows 8 is awesome on this thing. It really added a ton to the experience. I performed an upgrade which made the process really easy, though I did have some trouble with the Wacom touch display driver. But it really adds a lot to the whole experience. I might do another video soon showing some more stuff (Win 8, Photoshop, other apps)
good question bro - the ssd cache works in tandem with a HDD to give you 'ssd like' performance without the pricey upgrade. There is no reason to get the ssd cache if you are going to use an SSD for your main drive - no performance increase at that point. It's also almost just as expensive too since you HAVE to take the Fujitsu upgrade for $125 for only 32GB of cache...
No it doesn't....which is really annoying because the ad Fujitsu came out with like a month ago shows that it does. They suck at product management.
Yes, I'm running Win8 now - the touch is way better. THough I will say I'm still having the issues writing around the edge of the screen (it's not as accurate - slower to respond). You can read about that in the description. Also waiting for Fujitsu to release some more Win8 drivers. But overall, enjoying the environment.
Sorry for the late reply....I'm not sure what you mean? They aren't interchangeable as they use different locking mechanisms are different dimensions...is that what you are talking about?
And yes - the side tabs are awesome, WAY better then having the clip at the top-center of the screen half of laptop.
Thanks for the great review. I just have two questions for you. First, how much does it take your T902 to boot with the SSD and RAM you installed? And second, what if you install a 265 GB Samsung SSD and order the 32 GB mSSD Cache from Fujitsu is that gonna improve performance?
Really sorry about the late reply...I'm sure this isn't relevant anymore, but from what I gathered through hours of research and calling Fujitsu, you can only leverage the mSATA port for ANYTHING if you included the mSATA option when configuring the machine in your purchase from Fujitsu
If you didn't, then they disable the port altogether. If you did, then technically, I think you could boot from the mSATA drive. I could be wrong though, it might only be manageable with Intel's AMT software
It looks like some options are only available on the different models - the customizable 'Corporate' model says it's WWAN upgradeable (though no option present in the customization process as you noted), while the 'High-end Corporate' model which is prefixed at 2,099, doesn't mention anything about the WWAN option, but apparently it comes with an Express Card Slot, which I was not aware of before now.
I might call them about this myself. I'm really curious why they made this so difficult.
Yeah right? That's why I posted the video. Glad it helped!
Since you have both, can you compare the dvd drives for the T5010 vs T902? The modular bay hdd caddy for the T902 is $20 cheaper than for the T901/T5010/etc, and I'd really like to know why. This wouldn't be an issue if Fujitsu didn't severely overprice its accessories.
Also, good to see the side tabs to keep the display from moving around in tablet mode. Definitely makes up for the lack of release hatch.
Great video! Just to clearify: Can you use an SSD in the msata port just as an additional or main drive? So you have a C: and a D: drive? Thanks in advance.
The SSD plugs into an msata port - which is standard in the machine whether you order the upgrade or not - mine has one and I was able to plug in my 64GB mSATA SSD which I got off of Crucial and everything. However, you cannot use it for anything without Intel's RST software, which you can't configure without RAID config, which Fujitsu blocks from your machine.
You know, the WWAN option wasn't on mine either...it might be worth a call to Fujitsu on that one - there's no antenna on my machine
nice review .. very helpful. I just bought my new..
Can you tell me which SW you use for taking notes besides MS journal.,. and are you into CAD? if yes, which SW
Thanks
For sure. Glad it helped.
Thanks I appreciate. First answer - on Win7, I think my boot time was around 18 seconds-ish. I should have written it down somewhere because I can't remember. I can atleast say it was LOT faster than when it first came in with the HDD. On Win8 now, its right around 15 seconds. What's funny though is that the shutdown time seems to be a couple seconds faster in Win8 than 7. I know they say it's faster, but I just feel like it's a little slower - again, should have written that stuff down.
Yeah, I have an Ubuntu instance running on Virtual Box and it works great - just make sure you assign the Ubuntu machine enough memory and you'll be fine
Hi Caderade.. I just recently observed that the screen is not really pure Matte. It has significant glare for it to be a problem outside on a sunny day. i think they tried to matte it, but since gorilla glass, so some glare..
Did you face similar issue.. and are you using any anti glare screen?
Sorry for the late reply. I went to one of those sites where it checks if your system can run a certain game and it says that with the i7/hd4000/16gb RAM combo it can handle it. Obviously, that integrated graphics is the weak point but it looks like you will be fine to run, atleast in minimal settings.
It really is a shame the machine is locked into the integrated card, and that there are no quad-core options. But hope that helps.
You're funny haha. Thanks for the review, been contemplating to get this one =)
You can and Fujitsu actually made a little utility that includes that functionality, though I have had issues getting it work after I upgraded to Windows 8 (it did work flawlessly in Win 7)
There might be some other option or setting (maybe in control panel) that allows you to deactivate the touch part of the digitizer, but nothing I know about.
Hi
In your video you said if you want the SSD cache, it must be ordered from the factory as they change the BIOS.
- Does the SSD plug into an msata port or mpci-e slot?
- if you don't order an SSD, can that space be used for something else?
- does it come with 3g as standard? Or is that a removable module? I can't see it as an option on the online configurator.
- is there a flip out antenna on the top right of the screen? I've seen it in some screenshots.
Hi! My camera doesn't work, so I'm searching for the webcam driver, I have installed Windows 10 Pro N but I can't find anything online. Can you help me?
Great video, I am also upgrading from my 5 year old T5010...just upgraded the hdd to an ssd and it was still bottle necked by the processor :(
Well, I never used the t900. I only had its predecessor-the t5010. All of Fujitsu's tablets use Wacom digitizers, so I imagine the touch experience will be similar (the t902 might support more touch inputs with 10). Hardware is obviously improved with the sandybridge chipset, higher resolution screen, USB 3.0, etc.
As far as an overall comparison? I'm sure the user experience will be comparable to your t900 for basic apps/uses. But again, I've never used the T900
nice review!
Is there lag when switching from wacom pen to finger touch?
thanks!
Well, if it actually is somehow WWAN upgradeable, that would be the same as 3G support (I don't know what radios it could support), though I could be wrong. And again, the express card slot is available, but only on the specially fixed model with the $2099 price tag. Certainly seems like they are limiting their competitive advantage which was providing the convertible tablet PC, which high-end power features...
Hey thanks for the nice video! Can I ask where did you get your laptop from? Online or at a reseller? I would like to customize my T902 but I can't find any store that lets you do that (fujitsu website doesn't even have any i7 model).
Thanks!
how does it feel with the pen? is it pretty accurate and responsive?
I'm thinking of switching from my old x200t thinkpad tablet to this, but writing is one of the bigger things I need to consider.
Overall, yeah I think so? It doesn't seem to handle HD video editing when using multiple tracks, and that is with the i7 and 16 GB of RAM....but that's also using Power Director plus or something. I am going to try out Vegas Studio here soon when I pick it up and see if there is an increase in performance. If it doesn't fair well...I would say the processor is the bottleneck.
As for graphic design goes though, you will be fine. Great tablet experience overall.
Actually 3g is not listed in the spec sheet. I wonder why because with the removal of the expresscard slot and 3g, makes it a bit of a downgrade compared to the t901
Another question! I feel kind of dumb for asking but I can't find a straight answer anywhere. Does the SSD cache option replace the HDD itself, or is it just something to pair with a spindle drive for a cheaper performance increase? If it's separate, is there any reason to get an SSD Cache drive if I plan to use a regular SSD for main storage?
Hey sorry for the late reply - I can try that out. I'm not really familiar with CAD apps - if you let me know anything in particular you want to see let me know. Also, it does not have a dedicated GPU - it's Intel's integrated HD4000...definitely a weak point
Good review Thanks. Good advice on saveing your cash on the upgrade aswell! Just got mine deleverd preveously used a Lenovo x61 convertable. t902seams to be a Overall a hellava computer. artist point of view Im not sure I am seeing the benefit of the wide screen trend in laptops.Drawing with Photoshop has been kinda chopy and causes random lines to shot to the pen point from uknown origans, strange. However this may do to the 2 gig of ram I have yet to upgrade.
Dose mSATA work with an SSD?
Could you make a review using Photoshop please, testing pen lag using different resolution canvases if you can, I'm trying to find a great tablet to draw on and this looks like a great option.
Let me know how that process goes. I'd be interested in doing the same, I'm just not sure if it would risk burning up the board installing that bigger chip? I see that it has the same TDP as the 3570, but I really have no experience with customizations like that, so if its doable, I would certainly pursue it.
Since I haven't tried the process you are doing out, I'm not sure exactly how to help, but I have to believe that you are able to install an SSD in addition to the mSATA cache option...I think Intel's AMT or related application manages the setup with the SSD cache, maybe it holds your answer? Sorry for the late reply....
really sorry about not replying...this probably not relevant anymore, but technically it can if you purchased an msata option from fujitsu when you bought the machine, otherwise they lock that i/o out from what I can tell
Hi, I have a T4310 and was considering upgrading to this. I'm wondering, is the screen glossy or matte? I like my T4310, but one thing that bothered me is how matte the screen is. Matte is okay with me, but the T4310 screen is like, super-matte =)
Very nice review thanks. Just one question was it good as CINTIQ i know about pressure levels of both device any other difference
When I first ordered it, they gave me an estimated ship date that was 2 weeks out (time for building it), but then I noticed like the day after I ordered it that the estimated ship date was decreased by 2 days so it was like 1.5 weeks about...and unfortunately, they stuck to that date lol. But it only took like 2 days to get to my house once it shipped.
You got it!
really sorry for the late replies...the pen is accurate - as good as any waacom device!
sooo, they adjusted my ship date to November 5th!! That sucks. Is this normal? Perhaps they are backed up, but that seems insane to wait for a month and a half to have a computer built. Their customer service is awful too, no straight answers, just generic responses while ignoring my questions...
Fantastic Thanks for uploading.
Thanks for answering my questions. Yeah that definitely helps. I guess I will just order it with mSATA and try to get a cheap SSD from Amazon.com becuase I actually need all the storage there is.
And for booting time, I think 18 seconds isn't bad at all. I need something that boots fast and have a good performance overall
That is ridiculous! I honestly don't think it is normal for any company...but I'm not really impressed with Fujitsu's service anyways. I do know that their main customers are large organizations and businesses, including the Department of Defense. So, any of their huge bulk orders are hands down going to take priority over us little guys.
cool laptop!
Consider it answered - so sorry for the late reply!
Does it has a backlighted keyboard?
Do you have already tried W8? ;)
Know gaming isn't a tablet laptop strong point, but can it play Ghost recon online or on minimal settings? The 1.70GB vram seems some what adequate.
Yeah I got you. The reds look red to me man, but I feel like you may have a heightened sense of color depth/differentiation haha
Sorry, meant Ivybridge :)
nice! good to know.
thanks again
Please answer this person's question. Can the machine boot to the msata??
I have a t900, how does the t902 stand up against the t900, or visa versa?
Is the pen accurate? Does the cursor move around when you tilt the pen?
Thanks for the video.
I ordered a t902 with the 32gb ss cache and now I finally bought an ssd to replace the s-ata hard drive but I am getting an error on the boot sequence. It says it cannot boot into the ssd giving a boot failure error message. I looked at the fujitsu website and read that ssd's are incompatible with the ssd cache option... do you guys know if its possible to install an ssd into a system originally configured with the ssd cache? Thanks!
Would you say this is good for Graphic Designers?
Thanks, i'll upgrade the cpu to the i7-3632QM ←(a quad-core) later if need be.
I'll see what I can do - need to find a copy of photoshop first haha. I'll see if maybe I can get a free download through my university.
Thanks! ;)
Windows 8?
Make more videos, I subbed, and like do a review and then like tech videos. :D
hi bro i need a help please
24 subscribers n 25,000 views.... People are mean!
Anyway thanks for the video.
why should i sub because one unboxing?
I hate my T902. The touch and pen input are terrible. Even though those are its selling points, I wouldn't recommend buying one for that.
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