Eddie Van Halen Jamming at his house in 1974
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- A classic recording of Ed "putzing around" at his house in 1974. Thought id put this together for the true fans with some more appropriate photos. You can always just go listen to VanHalenStores if you want. I do not own the masters for these recordings...... but I wish did! :)
He went to school with me. I met him as a HS freshman. I got to see him play at his home, in many backyard parties, and in my parent's living room. DLR was in my English class. Yup, those times were great!
dude, that must have been so cool!!!
i thought eddie and DLR went to different high schools
@@master.exploder5150
That's right.
Dave went to Muir.
Ed went to PHS.
Dave was in my English class at PCC.
@@amxndxies
Yes, it was really awesome!
@master.exploder5150
I only knew Ed during hs.
Alex is older and had different friends.
Dave went to a different school, but I still knew him from his rock band.
They were just like any high school kids. Into what they were into, like sports, band, drama, whatever.
I also knew Mark Stone, their first bass player.
I didn't know Mike, but my sister took dance lessons with his sister.
Yeah, pretty much like the rest of us. One big thing about Ed. While we were just floating along with the tides, Ed knew he would be a famous guitar hero.
Eddie probably couldn’t have dreamed at the time that this little recording would be so special down the road. What a gem.
RIP. He died yesterday and its the 1st time I've cried in a long time.
My dad was so sad :(
Tuesday was with my wife and we shared the sadness. Wednesday came, she went to work and I went on CZcams and had to cry. Was in San Diego in '71 when Jim passed away and I would stop in one coffee shop after another on my way back to the ship (USS KITTY HAWK) comin down Broadway and I would get a cup of coffee and a chocolate covered donut, put a dime in the jukebox and play Riders on the Storm. There were three coffee shops on the way. It was a very sad time for me then having lost Jimi and Janis the previous year. October sixth was another one of those times. I traded up from coffee to beer though. Here's to you Eddie 🍺and like all the rest, will always remember.
Same...
Same here.
I suddenly can't stop listening to Van Halen still.
This is how you become a master...Hours and ours of this. It's beautiful.
Yes I heard an old interview with Ted Nugent as a young man and he said that once he made up his mind that he wanted to be a professional musician he dedicated to five hours a day of practice, When the Allman Brothers band met Lynrd Skynrd early on in their career Duane told them that they had the potaential but they were going to have to commit to it like a full time job as far as practicing and they took his advice and made it. For most of these famous guitar players the practice was not a drag like it might be for some kid being forced to take piano lessons. These were gifted individuals who decided early on what they wanted to do and put in the long hours of practice and then playing a lot of small gigs to make it. I know there are shortcuts today but are they really as good ? No not most of them.
Not true. The masters emerge very young with very little practice. Check out Anton Oparin’s stuff when he was just 10 years old….3 years after he started playing! Some people could have ten lifetimes playing ten hours a day and not be able to do what he does. Great guitarists are born. Tuition and practice can only get you so far.
@@andymullarx6365 It's 1,000s of hours of production, creative practice.
@@chrisjames1924 This is not true. When looking at the best ever, there's common theme: Insane practice routines and 1,000s hours mastering everything at their disposal.
@@chrisjames1924Eddie Van halen has even said that if somebody tells you they were good from the beginning they are lying because playing well takes time and dedication. In some cases people are savants and extremely good at certain things, but very uncommonly
Eddie was always a seriously underrated rhythm guitarist. That right hand was just so damn funky! His rhythm style alone spawned so many metal gods throughout the 80’s
Uh, Im pretty sure hes heralded as one of the best rhythm guitarists of all time.
kidwave1 news time me but certainly makes sense
You're the only other person besides myself to say something about his groove being funky. Just an amazing rhythm guitar player!
The Horror Fan oh yeah man. The funk, swagger and attitude was often imitated, never duplicated!
@@Joestradamus czcams.com/video/CMb1WNYMqr4/video.html
When I went off to UCLA, I was on my dorm's party committee; I organized a street party on Landfair Ave with a battle of the bands and invited Dave and VH to play; they thought LA was too far a drive, but I finally convinced them. They started playing and we got about 1000 students in the street until the police shut it down at 11 PM for noise violations! But they obviously won the battle. They ended up with more gigs at UCLA at Frat parties, and then 3 mos later were playing on Sunset strip
Thanks.
What a story!
Great story!!!
Wow!!
Hate when people say Dave and VH it’s always going to be VH with or with out DLR
What I love about this recording is you can hear Eddie was about a lot more than playing fast and flashy.....he was always working on new riffs and rock guitar songs!!
if you have ever listened closely to Eddie you know his voicing, his phrasing, his attack, his finesse, you know how his fingers on the strings sound and you know thus is him. its like listening to a voice. its younger but its still him.
Its so totally EVH. Think: Even in this crude setup his playing is immediately recognizable. Esp on the intro to the (proto) Somebody Get me a Doctor with that distinctive strum :-)
This audio is Eddie Van Halen in the beginning. It’s phenomenal. Even though the audio isn’t the greatest. You can hear somebody get me a doctor before it was perfected Young Eddie practicing home This audio is gold if you ask me
The audio equivalent to watching Picasso sketch out new ideas.
billwun perfectly put.
Absolutely....seems to have worked out for him...so far...lol!
Dindr Mindr what does that even mean😂
Dindr Mindr okay damn straight
You expect him to pull out the best fkn microphone like I don't even know. THIS WAS RECORDED IN 1974 NOT IN 2020
In summer 1973, Dave and my girlfriend took a music performing class at Pasadena City college (PCC); everyone had to learn a new song and perform it. Dave chose Ice Cream Man. Since my girlfriend was in the class, I brought my 7" reel-to-reel tape recorder and also recorded Dave playing (acoustic) and singing Ice Cream Man ; this is the first recording ever of it, and I still have it!
upload it!
upload it - it's history!
You NEED to upload that! That’ll be so cool to hear!
Very cool!
I graduated from PHS in 1973.
What high school did you guys go to?
I probably crossed paths with you at PCC, and, back yard keg parties with Van Halen! Or Mammoth!
Who's going to tell him
4 years from this date... Eddie stumbles upon the "Pick of Destiny".
Lol
I know this comment is 3 years old but, Lmfao ! What a great Movie. Probably my all time favorite.
Nice profile pic haha
@@swaggypanda1808 who me?
yeah
why are people hating on this. Sure the recording quality is bad. But the playing is awesome. And for people saying its not eddie, you must have never heard too much VH or really focused in his playing to learn any VH tunes. The music is so stylistically his. The upstrokes and root note changes. Its classic eddie.
Emilio Fedele -I think people who grew up playing thru a Line 6 amp don't quite get this is what a practice amp sounded like back then. No distortion, and if you wanted it you cranked your amp (if it was a tube amp anyway). These kids now just set everything to settings like "Eddie", "Dime", or "A7X" and have a tone that can mask their talent.
I'm enjoying it for what it is.
Thank you.
The people hating this are those people pretending to know how to play guitar 🖕🏿
Love this, sounds like him to me.
This tape should be inspiring to anybody that is relatively new in any field whatsoever that they can get from good to great...talent develops greatly with practice. Eddie is known for practicing a lot, hours on end. He got where he's gotten by countless hours of hard work. He's earned his accomplishment level.
Something about this is inspiring and rebellious, motivating.
I grew up in Altadena, lived on Midlothian Drive in the 1970’s just up the street from Dave's house on New York Ave. His mom and my mom were best friends; his dad was my family eye doctor. Dave was incredibly bright, was reading Kafka and Sartre in 7th grade (but doing badly in school due to non-conformity). I used to hang out with him in his garage when Eddie and Alex would come over to use his amps and mikes...at the time Dave was not singing, just doing the light show for different bands.
Thank You. this is history 🤯
Thanks dude nice story
Think dave would remember you?
Thank you, good historical story great memory for you!
How much did Eddie practice
That classic tone is one in a million and recognized world wide.
So Eddie was like 19 yrs old here? Portrait of the musician as a young man! And the Cradle Will Rock! VH 4EVER!! 🤟🤩🤟
He was 22 when van halen one came out so hed have to be younger
@@michaelcruz4570 he was 19 he was born in 55 so he’s 19 here maybe almost 20
@@stylianoscourtney6427 no that’s wrong
@@michaelcruz4570 which part my friend
@@stylianoscourtney6427 wouldn’t have been close to 20 had to have been like 15 16 because he was 22 when Van Halen 1 came out
I like anything Van Halen, don’t care who is singing, just to hear that guitar and drum’s is why so many people love them.
right?
I think he's rockin it. Especially with 1974 Radio Shack equipment. I can listen to this all day long.
Anyone who wasn't playing guitar in the seventies and even the early eighties doesn't realize what it took to get a great sound back then . Amps didn't come with built in processors and pedals didn't sound great with every amp the were used with . Amps that didn't have pre-amp volume were hard to overdrive and the ones that did were often too distorted when used with a pedal . We have it made in the shade now .
Master volumes go back to the early 70s. The amps from the 60 and 70 where better. Any "new" tube amp is based on those old circuits. Half the amps out today are remakes of vintage amps. In 1975, an MXR Distortion+ and any Marshall became the sound of everyone from Boston to Randy Rhodes. There is no "magic" in modern amps except for modeling. And modeling what? Vintage tube amp circuits.
Hi Michael . Yep sure enough all amps have a master volume . I was talking about pre gain . If you were playing guitar back then you know what I mean . Distorted sounds often sucked bigtime back then .
HotRodSixString Yes it sounds like an overdriven practice amp. Big Muff maybe jajajjaja
Exactly. This is GREAT music I am hearing. :)
@@michaeljamsmith It's fairly ridiculous to say something that was made in the 60s and 70s was better than today. You're stuck in the past, the reality is today we have mucher smarter people with much better resources making much better amps. There's amps today based on old amps to because people want to sound like their favorite bands from the past, if amps from the 70s were better Marshall amps would just be identical to what they made in the 70s.
Primitive Eddie. Pretty cool. You can hear flashes of that smooth, incredibly fast technique he would perfect. Plus, you could see early on he was a songwriter, not an imitator. Once he learned those Clapton/Cream solos, he was off on his own, creating his own thing. Great post.
I could listen to Eddie jam/improv all day.
SEE YA EDDIE VAN HALEN
Thanks for all the great music
I would have loved to hear this kind of stuff like 20-25 years ago. The internet is amazing. These are hidden gems that would otherwise go unnoticed except by maybe obscure fan communities that share cassettes.
Jesus these insufferable comments. I'm pretty sure EVH didn't record this this to be analyzed by a bunch of CZcams dildos 40 years later.
He's just a kid here...recording riffs for possible song ideas. That's it. Nothing more.
So? We cant think recordings of him pre fame are cool?
Mike Patton Mike Patton: Greatest vocalist who ever lived!!! Oh and I agree with you 100%
Henry Cruz Actually I was referring to the negative stuff on here. As if he's always supposed to be playing Eruption all the time, ya know?
People forget what a tremendous rhythm guitar player he always was. To me, it wasn't the leads that made songs like Unchained or Everybody Wants Some... so powerful.
Yeah I was agreeing with you about people talking negative. Edwards damn near a god. And I was also talking about Mike Patton the singer for Faith No More. Not sure if you guys are one in the same.
Mike Patton this might be the single funniest youtube comment I've ever read.
The early beginnings of the legend himself that I have never heard. Awesome!
Around 3:50 in, Eddie starts playing an early version of Somebody Get Me a Doctor, which sounds like it was in drop A tuning... i thought this was an audio fluke, but then later on you can hear him tune the 6th string back up to E. What the hell?!?!
I love that you figured out the tuning! You're a great player, Ben. And I know you understand how far ahead of his time he was but Drop tunings in 74.. Maybe Eddie was dropped of by aliens when he was young? 😆
@@yourdrummer2034 "maybe"
He was the one to figure out how to use tapping, palm harmonics, palm muted legato, symmetrical scales, the six screw tremolo without it loosing tune, and how to make pickups not microphonic. I don't think there's a maybe
I.. kinda like the A tuning
Standered tuning at 3:50 and it's in key A like you said. He's just chords A D F basically. Interesting eddie keeps using what would be iron maiden signiture. If your in E min land on C maj if your in A min Fmaj. The first riff at the begining over E then riffs over D maj lands on C chord ? The notes are like iron maiden (doesn't necessarily sound like maiden song its the notes he's playing are so metal. Still sounds like van halen riff it's eddie playing. It might not sound great here. Almost wish van halen made song from begining riff. On fire but 'everybody wants some' reckless, with atomic bends over almost lost space end on B chromatic whatever? I can't play unless I practice lot daily it takes longer than 30 minutes. (30 min a day is bullshit) remember play eddies solos upside down backwards sideways, only using octave displacements hyperspeed fretboard gymnist
@@dannyhood7428 those are some big fancy words like asparagus or something
His solos are unreal; and his rhythm playing - so amazing. The King!
I called Van Halen to his cell phone and he told me this was him. He recorded that Jam in a cassette recorder from Radio Shack that his father gave to him.
Pure gold! U can here in the start of these recordings hes playing the ending of light up the sky after the guitar solo. Later on playing somebody get me a doctor. Eddie is my favourite and will always be my favourite. R.i.p to the greatest ever
That opening riff hits so hard.
It was so well put together for just putzing, I thought at first “man I haven’t heard this Van Halen song”
Any real fan can tell this IS absolutely Eddie!
What a great find. Thanks for posting this!
Freaking amazing for the time AND you hear Eddie's style start to grow.....effin historical!
At this point, even at an early age, he really had the Rythym down pat. Next:Work on lead solos, which, in his case, didn't take long. Not at all!!! The first time I heard Eruption, figuratively speaking, my jaw hit the floor...and shattered!!! It was an amazing, mind-blowing experience!!!
Supposedly, this was Eddie warming up before a gig at the Hilton in Pasadena in !974.
Ed your persistence paid off. You are the best rock guitarist of all time.
its definitely Edward. I don't know when, but 74 sounds about right. his pick attack was just ferocious. dude was so tight with his tempo
He has a good rhythm feeling. He and his brother at the drums make that unique mix of rhythm you can’t copy.
This, after hearing, is Eddie. I'm a veteran guitar player of 35 years and Ed was my first major influence. With that said, I know his rhythmic phrasing/attack pretty well as I've studied his overall sound for decades, although I don't play or sound like him at all. This recording being '74 though he had great chops already, he was still developing and a bit of his signature sound that we know today was starting to shine through...when I heard this recording, I knew almost right away that it was him.
I know what you mean, just because it's not insanley virtuoso I Defo think I can here eds sound in there, these fanboys claiming it's not are just could never believe ed maybe wasn't born with magic fingers
Whiz Mitchell Well said. This opening riff is obviously what morphed into " Romeos delight" and hell yes its Eddie Van Halen,(or if it's not, he has a twin somewhere) Totally agree bro thanks for saying what I was thinking.
Paul Schedler This sounds just like a small practice from the 70's.( I should know I had one back then) I don't know how old you are but back then the type of amp one might play in there bedroom was just like this. Ed's parents were not about to let him crank a full sized amp up in his & Alex's bedroom. If you've ever been to Pasadena and to this house its in a regular neighborhood and is the smallest house on the block. And Eddie himself said he didn't even start playing Marshall's till he found his 1st one in 76 and he's said many times he couldn't afford effects till also around that time. Sounds to me just like someone messing around just doing bullshit recording while they play whatever. And who knows maybe it's really from 73 or 72.Whatever
Diggerdog2nd I can buy into what you're saying because it does make sense in the late 60's when Ed had only a paper route (as did I - Ed's 3 yrs old than I am) to around 70 - 71. It may just be a matter of dates. Whoever it is & whenever, he had some speed & accuracy. Some guy (JgHaverty) commented that "Eddie didn't start the wild lead playing stuff ... until they started van halen" ... that much is absolutely untrue. Although I don't claim to be the player EVH was born with the talent to be, I followed the same path, taking only 6 half-hour lessons when I'd played 6 months, and got kicked out of the intermediate guy's room & sent to the advanced teacher. I'd play through a piece of crap distorted amp also. Ed began playing rhythm AND lead together as he was the one guitarist in his bands. Ah, enough out of me, I see I went overboard. Thanks for your cool-headed perspective, Diggerdog2nd!
Paul Schedler Not here to argue, bub...the real fact here is that NO ONE HERE has actual proof that this is Eddie, myself included...so with that I'm officially backing out of my earlier statement, because someone is always think they'll have the right answer, but not having the actual proof; anyhows, this'll be an argument that will be going on forever and I'm not gonna be giving any more statements regarding if this is Ed...or not. If it is NOT him, I'd say they're pretty damn good, even way back then.
A lot of great musicians/bands are accused of plagiarism (Jimmy Page, etc). Not EVH, which makes this extra special. Its just him coming up with original tunes.
@@s1iznc1d34 Not even close to plagiarism. And in FACT, the record Different Kind of Truth was "written" off of old riffs, tunes, and lyrics that took place prior to the release of VH's first record on Wolf's idea.....
Man he really pushed those tubes. His tone was awesome and his skills were one of a kind. Rest In Peace Eddie!
Year is debatable, but this is absolutely EVH.
SpikeFlea oh well if spike flea says it’s real we can all pack up n go back to our mother’s basements 🙄
SpikeFlea debatable by who? You? Phhhft. Fuck off you twat.
Supreme Commander of the Solarverse What the fuck crawled up your ass?😂 why so tense
Hey, thanks for confirming that.
This is THE "Brown Sound".
Amazing.
Overloading the input on a 1974 radio shack cassette recorder? Proof that its all in the hands 🤚
Not even close.
1971 , I heard something on the radio and it was loud, I think it may have been Hendrix doing feedback, anyway I took my brothers prized acoustic nylon string guitar, took a microphone , plugged it into a reel to reel tape deck, placed the mike into the sound hole, then pushed the play record and pause on the deck, and then I turned up the volume a bit, I then in my 10 yr old brain , I did my best to emulate that sound I heard, I was now in my head a rock god, the feedback was glorious, I scraped the pick across the low E, I dont know why but I felt a presence in the room, I turned around and it was my older brother, and he had a crazed look, he took the guitar and then punched me several times hard, It hurt like hell , but it was so worth it!!!! that was the intro into my quest for getting a guitar later in life after mowing yards all summer to save up enough...RIP RG ,it was a blast back then like no other, see ya soon,
In many ways I prefer this to the albums. To hear him becoming "Eddie" here is something special. This sounds a little between him transitioning from playing HIS influences to the birth of the EVH signature style and sound. There is no mistaking his rhythm playing. Nobody riffs like Ed. You can hear the seeds of his lead playing sprinkled throughout. But, that rhythm...man. 😊 This is gold.
Agreed!
I'd lay down a lot of money that his absolute rhythm perfection came from the fact he started out on drums. Helps that his bro has even better rhythm, huh?
He has a built in metronome in his brain. Amazing...
+Sergio Mottura most musicians do.
+Sergio Mottura He was a piano prodigy when he was a child.
+4JayeP not exactly, i never used a metronome. Some people are just gifted
+4JayeP yes.
i saw him last summer and his metronome is broken :(
When Eddie is on the guitar, life stops. Eddie takes over. And it is so special.
RIP Eddie. He was an unbelievable musician !
I'll rephrase that he is one of the greatest musicians in history of the world, the greatest in the modern era! 🎸
People come on. It’s not about the quality of sound. It’s the process. You’re listen to the evolution of heavy metal rock guitar. This belongs in the rock hall of fame. Amazing. Love ya Eddie.
" Somebody Get Me A Doctor " at 4:03. I love listening to this practice tape so much. It shows how hard he worked and what you can achieve for yourself if you practice, too.
Dude has some serious rhythm.
He had major talent even four years before his debut
jeez, that riff for the first minute is freaking great.
In 1984 ,I was sitting in my house doing the exact same thing trying to replicate Eddie's iconic sound ! This is fold ..i wish I didn't have a job ,I could listen to this all day .,this is what guitar playing is about in my mind ..endless hours of going over and over a tune or lick that your looking for ..i recorded myself for hours lol but never reached the fame Eddie has got too ..im putting all these best moments on my saved list ..youtube is the shit no dout !!
R.I.P EVH. Thank you for all the music and talent you shared with the world.
It's Ed, and he was just noodling around the recording back the didn't have to be spot free, this was about getting ideas down . We all had old cassette players that recorded with back then and at the time they were considered quality, today we have better luxuries the record with so I'm wondering why is everybody in denial that this is him. It sounds like his style.
shut the fuck up
+Matt Aull no you fuck the shut up!
Honestly, I found the portable cassette player back in the day to be the absolute best tool to through down ideas on. It was simple an portable. Easy to use. Didn't have 1000 wires! And you could even record your whole band just for fun.
I wish I could find a quality cassette player nowadays. I like analog. Digital, arff!!! It's so unreliable and fragile. And it takes a lot of knowledge to program some of that stuff. And it takes away from the integrity of the music in my opinion. Unless of course you got a lot of money to pay an engineer. But that's not who and what I'm referring to. I'm referring to the small local musicians.
i miss cassette tapes
my sony walkman was on me at all times back in the day. i just found about 15 old tapes of song ideas that i havent even scratched the surface on yet.
This is wonderful. It strikes me that Eddy is first and foremost all about rhythm despite the fact that he is so famous for solos. I am wondering how old he was here.
19
Oblivio I do have to say that his rythm style is fantastic , it really is unique and surely says that he has huge talent and ingenuity to come up with this style. He is a piano player first as he says he is and a guitarist second . Kinda like Warrne De Martini he has his own rythm sound, Jake E Lee , they stand out in my mind as guys with their own rythm sound unlike others ! but back to the " conceded one " it seems that the rythm is more or less played as if he were on a piano , really a never ending sound and style thats always rather fresh can't deny his talent
sab2871
I saw Warrne De Martini in a small club in San Diego couple years back. I was mesmerized by his sassy groove. Does that sound gay?
oblio blivion well not really at all Warren is quite the player as we all know , he had a technique way back when he had to compete with his room mate Jake E Lee and Georgie Lynch both who are asskickers as we know . Now suprised by Warren he was always a tasteful player . " Way Cool Junior "
when I first hear it sounded as if he wanted to jump into something with a bit more groove to it which I think for lots of us is a draw to Jazz ! Warren was always a fav of mine !
Hey nice CZcams Picture lol , he looks like a " thuggy prick " in that shot which is exactly what he is ! Obonzo " is Oblio blivion " lol !
To bad he , it would be nice if he accidently fell backwards and swallowed that cigarette or bit the filter off and choked !
Straight into the stereo cassette recorder . I used to run input high to make distortion.
Man, whenhe was THAT good in '74, nobody else ever stood a chance. The GOAT. Forever missed and forever remembered and loved.
Dude just this jam is heavier than most of the music out in 74 except sabbath. If Eddie van halen was alive in 1936 he'd be playing the same thing. It's all in his DNA. Too good for this world. RIP
I have a theory along those lines
He said there was always music playing in his home. It was his parents albums.
Boogie- woogie
Big bands, etc
He said his dad played everything, all the styles of his dad's generation
I'd bet money that in the womb Ed was hearing this too. That and the records being constantly played.
I believe that hearing all this in utero and from a small child on gave him his sense of timing.
Some songs like I'm the one.
Imagine AL on a kettle drum instead of a snare, and a horn section playing the guitar part.
Albeit they would have played it slower in a big band
Beautiful Girls, same thing.
I can hear a Big Band playing it in my head.
The thing he does at the end of the little filler lead early in the song - that's a big band riff!
I tried looking up some big band music looking for riffs that he may have unconsciously or consciously borrowed.havent found anything yet, but it's fun trying. Lol
Fun stuff!
Guitar is just like sports. There is such a thing as natural talent and some people have more of it. I've trained with olympic (Beijing etc.) caliber weightlifters and EVERY one was special from the start... As well as working VERY hard. EVH, Johnny Marr, Townsend, Buckingham, Knopfler... All of these guys OOOOOZE talent
You could noodle on guitar 1000 hours and never come up with a lick as good as Johnny Marr. And when EVH came into prominence there were a trillion 'white dudes playing the Blues' but Eruption? There was only one!
Whit I disagree. Some of it has to do with upbringing and all other environmental factors. Ever read any Malcolm Gladwell" As in 10,000 hours? It shows great evidence to someone playing the blues for that many hours and getting success.
I'm aware of Gladwell and the 10000 hrs until mastery but I think it truly is complimentary not dispositive
There are a MILLION guys who have met that criteria but there are not 1 million EVH's (or Johnny Marr's or Knopflers)
I've seen it in EVERY field I've gotten seriously involved in (the importance of but not SUFFICIENCY of talent) - world class weightlifters, musicians, athletes ( especially sprinters- HUGE genetic component there. Read Entine's 'Taboo' or Speed Trap by Charlie Francis... Or just hang out and train with world class athletes - it's HUMBLING
NO amount of training and dedication going to make me into Usain Bolt!
Of course athletics is more objective and thus easy to define talent since the boundaries are so easily defined by their place on the continuum and their relative rarity (not that mental factors aren't HUGE - look at sub 4 mailing AFTER Sir Roger Bsnnister broke the mental barrier - a barrier most scientists said was IMPASSABLE!)
Granted we are asymptotically approaching limits , and I think that's clear. But man, is the journey astounding
Whit I could easily agree that ten thousand hours does not make one the best, but I think it can make you a master. As in a master does not make success automatically, nor make you a winner of the highest contest, as many others may put more into their hours.
One may be a master at their craft, but be very poor in other skills that make for success. So in a sense, we agree to a point, probably more so than you realize.
In Gladwell's telling of the Beatles story, he told of how they needed to be more creative due to having to play for so many hours in one place in one day, so hours alone was not the sole reason for success but it certainly was a great contributing factor.
Thanks for the insightful response. And would love to hear more.
I wonder why everyone is still talking about Knopfler and if he ever oozed with talent I wonder what the hell he did with it.
You know what dumpster ?Its a good thing all those white guys were "playing the blues" (even though they weren't) and recorded it ,because none of the black guys were playing it anymore, and maybe now we'd have nothing to listen to but drum machines and millenial whoop....and silly you tube hoaxes like this
and just 5 years later I saw him on their 1st world tour completely dominating his style that he invented.
For those who are hating the recording
1-that's 200% Eddie's playing if you were a true van halen you will recognise his sound immediately it's Eddie's style
2-he was just 19 yo guy recording his ideas so that he will create something new not to make people criticise after almost 50 years
3-he's on the top and you're in the bottom
4-could you do the same at the age of 19 and during the 70's?
very solid picking and rythm already, amazing.
you can think whatever you want, i find this tone very pleasin'.
this was like him coming over and playing on your sears guitar thru your stereo, because you dont have an amp.... just put this thru a Marshall on 11, and POW! there he is!
While there certainly are some pretty good copycats out there, I don't think there is any question in my mind that this is EVH in the recording. The phrasing and attack are spot on Eddie. Thanks for sharing!
This is absolutely impossible to copy apart from a well inspired Nuno Bettencourt and even he would have hard times to play that exactly as heard here. It's not about the notes guys, of course there is no difficulty in it (for advanced players), it's all about between the notes. The sound, the rhythm... Of COURSE it's Ed playing.
Max Cara burp
0:13 I'm 200% sure this is not an early photo of Van Halen jamming.
😂😂😂
This is gold… the first riff remind me the first notes of Cabo Wabo … what a music talented man
Incredible to hear this brilliance developing before our ears. Truly awesome.
I hear the riff for "Somebody Get Me a Doctor" a few times throughout. 👍 The man is beast.
They should take that 1st riff and record a song with Roth. Name it "Van Halen's Bedroom". I hear a melody hiding in there similar to "House of Pain".
Vince L: The riff is very similar to a song they did with Sammy called Cabo Wabo off of OU812. The only real difference is that there is more.going on in this one, which I prefer.
It’s the chorus section of light up the sky
Love the E string tuned down to A. Later, he did this on “ Good Enough “.
This is awesome and really interesting to hear him working songs out.
I'm taking this as a tribute to our King Edward.
The Missus woke me up crying and for the entire day we couldn’t listen to a note of King Edward without the waterworks comin’ - so many good times with his music -it felt weird
We found watching interviews with him and other kind folks like yourself paying tribute to Eddie makes it somewhat easier to bear. We literally had a day of intensely mourning. It might sound daft but Ed’s playing and attitude is hugely responsible for inspiring me to be the person I am.
There’s a Bad Religion ( Punk Band ) Lyric that says it al “ Everyone you love leaves a mark on your soul,
The world is a little less bright without King Edward
Im fighting cancer and depression and its been especially tough with the news of Eddie’s passing but hearing all these wonderful tributes and reaction and the love and joy he brought and is bringing….makes it a tad bit easier
Much love and respect! Thank you for honouring our King Edward. Eddie's music touched us so deeply because of his love for the instrument and the innovations he has done. To us, it feels like the brightest and best brother, Uncle, friend mentor you ever had is not in our realm anymore. You have Nothing but love from the rock/metal / guitarist community, respect for your tribute to EVH, Rock n Metal does not get the exposure and respect that other genres get.
So, you are forever in the hearts of many a Rock / Metal / Guitar fan's hearts. Stay safe & all the best wishes to you. Watch this Video Interview and you'll see why we're hurting so much...The world is a little less bright without King Edward This is a brilliant interview if you haven’t seen it czcams.com/video/yb26D8bBZB8/video.html&ab_channel=Z%C3%B3caloPublicSquare
Enjoy EVH czcams.com/video/L9r-NxuYszg/video.html&ab_channel=Hazardteam
Hmm..never occurred to me to think this sounds bad lol..imho this is raw nostalgia and I feel honored to have found this clip!
Whether its Eddie or not, I'm still gonna steal these riffs.
This is actually somewhat encouraging. 👍🏻
I know right. I really needed this
If you factor out the sound quality and just focus on the feel, the rhythm of the playing it definitely sounds like Eddie. The fact that two years later (or as much as much 2.5 years later if it was recorded in early 74) he would be playing as he did on the demo produced by Gene Simmons (Fall of 76) is well within the realm of possibility. For someone with Eddie's native talent for the instrument two years of near constant practice at home, at gigs and rehearsals/jam sessions could easily result in a dramatically more developed technique, sound and performance. Another year of playing and Eddie was in the studio recording their debut album (October 1977) including the groundbreaking warm up exercise 'Eruption'. I believe that this rough sounding recording is in fact Edward Van Halen.
Fun fact: his name wasnt edward. It was eddilicious the vicious.
Love the pic with the guitars. What an amazing musician.
I know his stuff is blues based, but the creative spin he put on it is genius imo.
Thanks for posting this, what a treat. When I picked up the guitar in 1988 I was lucky that my one of my best friends was a drummer and had a 4-track, so we did this all the time. Rockers everywhere owe Van Halen a debt of hard rock honor, because they were one of the core bands that saved us from disco in the late 70's.
I heard in an interview that he taped all of his "ganja noodling" and thats how he got the hits. He just would go back threw them a month later and pick the nugs...
+Phil Fischer I remember Steven Tyler of Aerosmith saying the same thing. They always had a recorder running. Good advice.
its true, only hit I had was going back and hearing something and recording it!
yup sounds about right, any guitarist can tell you that when they're noodling around and create a cool little riff we usually run to our nearest recording device, i have like 30 voice memos on my phone of just riffs.
Before voice memos I had a analog voice recorder from the late 70s hahaha
@Phil Fischer, yes Ed recorded many of his early at home alone jam sessions just to see what would come out. He just hit record then played and then listened back the next day.
and if he liked something he would use it/keep it.
Just to set the record straight, I know for a fact that this is Edward. He was playing straight into a reel-to-reel tape machine. I have seen the original master tape. The tape had killer early VH live shows. There was a little room left over at the end. So he just plugged into the machine, no amp. It's just a work tape, never intended to be released.
The real Kurt James you're full of crap let me see Eddie validate this video it's not him
@@jimbradley727 That's Kurt James sitting on the couch at 5:55. I should know, I was there too. This photo was taken at their house just north of the 210, off the Allen Ave exit in Pasadena.
Pollo Frito You guys should meet Teflon Bill in the first comment who also tends to know this clip’s origin story.
Until you have real proof I do not believe you..
Opinions are like assholes everyone has one!!
If it's true how come Eddie Van Halen has not said anywhere that it's him?
All of his interviews I've heard nothing
Until someone can produce some proof..
It doesn't mean anything and nobody knows who it really is!!
And that is a fact not an opinion!!!
TheRealKurtJames i can just tell its him..its obvious
LOVE the tone......very raw and abrasive. Straight up 70s gold. Ya just don't find originality like this anymore EVER.
He changed the sound of rock guitar forever!!!! 😊❤
Everyone who succeeds does the same thing.
Several years of practice hours every day.
Here a 19 yo EVH is at home practicing.
The difference is that he was a genius and gifted.
Those years of practice took him from this to Eruption in under 48 months.
Hadn't found the brown sound yet and tapping was to come in 76 or early 77.
Sounds like he's plugged directly into the tape deck.
He might be. It was '74 after all.
I'm guessing he's got his amp set to 220 volts. That cuts the voltage in half to the amp and makes it sound like this.
jason lee Ritche Blackmore used to use an analog tape deck for a preamp. My fist recordings in the 70's were direct into a reel to reel deck. They break up nicely and squeal.
1971SuperLead I saw that video interview too ;)
Jason lee - I agree ...or a crappie mic on the deck. No room ambiance sounds so probably a line direct as you said
Haha!! Sounds like he's plugged direct into the cassete recorder! Cranked up the input level to get some raunch! Sounds shitty but you get the point across for saving ideas which is obviously what EVH is doing here. Used to do that all the time! That's right kids. This is is how guitar players saved their song ideas before home computers were invented.
CribNotes That's how Keith Richard recorded Street Fighting Man with an acoustic guitar through an overdriven cassette deck for an amazing dirty guitar tone and an all time classic Stones tune!
you are one of the few that had enough brains to understand what they were listening to. Plus the guy that uploaded this has the wrong date,
this is from before 1974!
I reckon youre right, I did this when I was 14 to try recording some stuff on my home stereo and this is exactly the terrible distortion you get
Come to think of it, EVH could be recording on a reel-to-reel tape recorder here, not a cassette deck.
And anybody who's ever played guitar do the same thing! Just mess around long enough and something really cool comes out!
It's so damn obvious who's playing even so early. Where the HELL did he get some of his ideas!!?? So different when u think about what was out at the time. Such a Fn badass SOB! Wonder what guitar he's playing on this.
Maybe black and white Frankie
@@user-kp1ry3so2s this was way before he built that guitar. He was probably playing on some off brand type of guitar
i have similar demos of myself, playing an unplugged guitar, and recording on an old tape deck...painful to listen to these days, but heartening to know that someone as great as EVH would do a similar thing back in the day
Sounds like his first amp was a toaster...much like MY first amp ( a hand-me-down Silvertone from Sears, held together by duct tape...and hope). This is a GREAT piece of music history, belongs in the RNR Hall of fame. Thanks for sharing this, TNMM.
Go ahead...complain. You're on CZcams listening...hes the one on stage.
Edward 5150
BOOM!
No complaints...sounds good...
Ed appreciates you having his back. The self-appointed noble toadie.
I’m still alive
Oh the way he transitioned into somebody get me a doctor. Absolute mastery.
5:17 sound like Top Jimmy to anyone else?
Somebody get me a doctor.
@@chuckcorwin1761 5:18 is Top Jimmy but yes, he does play SGMAD earlier.
You can here "somebody get me a doctor" riff,. so cool. wow. awesome, tuning down his E string, way cool much enjoyed. Im a Huge EVH fan. thanks
Sobes like a 8 track recordable tape deck that’s in the red. I used a Cassette player as a kid and got this kind of rubber band sound.
I was 10 yrs. old when Edward was creating this beautiful brown sound. I guarantee I would have loved this if I could have heard it then.
+soulrful terrain You go that right!!!!!! Better late than never. Thumbs up.
True talent in its raw form!!
EVH = a total powerhouse on the 🎸
1974 wow thats the year I stopped playing but I have a box full of cassette tapes this makes me want to dig them up.This is great stuff. I love this.This is where we came from.Jamming with our selves in the house.I use to play into a cassette tape recorder then pump it into another amp and playing to it recording that. So I was making my own two track recording. Good times. Thanks for posting this. enjoyed
Incredible to hear what was soon to become a brand new style and technique of how a guitar can be played . A Wonderful Thing !