Game dying in my opinion was just a matter of time. I know there were some people who liked it, but for me it was not a good game and I think many could say so as well. Its kinda like Hawkins map in DbD. When it existed a huge amount of community disliked it, but now that it's gone everyone recalls it that it was great map and all purely (I think) because of nostalgia. And the same thing will most likely happen with Friday the 13th. And not mentioning VHS, because I know basically nothing about this game. I didn't play it and maybe have seen like 2 matches of it ever, so yeah.
I know what Friday the 13th is and it looked bad but what is video horror society? Edit: Ironic how later in the video you cover the fact that they didn't advertise 😂
ever since they got attacked AGAIN a couple months ago, that was the final straw. i just wish hellbent tried harder to keep their game protected, balanced and well promoted
I think nowadays if you’re going to make a free to play game, especially a niche like this, you have to have a console release ready to go at the same time, console easily make up around 60-80% of some games.
@@jayyh_01 I mean you really don’t need cross progression, cross platform and sorted, im sure it’s not as easy as that but my point is that games nowadays especially pc only online games, struggle massively without cross platform play
VHS went from the game that some said would kill DBD to a game fighting for its life. It had potential. Sad and strange, we live in a world where new games die while games from the 90s live on forever.
Never was the game that could “kill” dbd how many competitors came with the same thing ? And all failed if you are a true dbd player you know off rip if a game will even have a chance especially with them getting stronger with licenses collabs 2 new games a Movie , Comic etc lol
I will never forget the reddit post that claimed bhvr did a bloodhunt to detract from the vhs beta and all the creators who jumped ship to the "dbd killer". GG no re
@@RyanLeeSergentfacts honestly I'm glad it died the amount of hate I saw on vhs videos to dbd was disgusting. Don't get me wrong dbd devs are ass but every update people were like omg these devs are so much better etc. I even remember when they got hacked they said it's dbd devs hacking them because their scared vhs is gonna kill dead by daylight lmao. Dbd almost couldn't handle hackers on their game but sure it was dbd devs 😂
I had completely forgotten about this game because I never saw anything about it after it was initially announced. I recall watching Otz play it once, but then it vanished off my radar.
The lack of advertising and the fact it went into early access was what I feel put the nails in the coffin. Putting the game into early access would mean splitting the cost between keeping the game up along with developing and finishing the final product, along with they they began adding new content before the game was finished, for a studio as small as Hellbent with no publisher backing it, there's really isn't a surprise that the game became a money sink for them. It's such a shame because I really wanted this game to succeed and do it's own thing.
Seeing Friday the 13th go hurts That game helped me through so much and it was my first asym game I ever played and have 100× more hours in it than i do in dbd. I had so much fun with it and it distracted me from all the horrible things happening to me at the time. A very sad loss for everyone.
Facts, I was going through a terrible break up when Friday the 13th came out and as crazy as it sounds that game helped me through the heartbreak. So much fun memories on that game, sad to see it officially go, but I’m looking forward to Texas Chainsaw Massacre game now.
One thing nobody talks about regarding VHS's failure is the name. Everybody calls it VHS, but it's called Video Horror Society - and when you type VHS in the Steam search bar, even now that it's changed, it just doesn't pop up. For the longest time it didn't even appear on the drop down list if you looked for "Video" (it does now) - some time ago I wanted to check how the game's doing (I've never played it personally) and couldn't for the love of me remember its full name, just "VHS", Video... something something. I do believe it matters as many people just didn't bother looking for the game outside of watching some streams if typing "VHS" on Steam gave them nothing. Just my opinion though. Great vid as always :)
Yeah, I think this is a very good point, actually. Also worth mentioning that unlike their lack of advertisement, this issue was mostly out of their hands. They were forced to change the name, and honestly maybe they could've gone with something more catchy? Whenever I mentioned VHS to my friends, to kind of update them on the slow death the game was experiencing, they were like "Oh, that game exists still?" lol.
@@brad1426 Of course you're right, but they kept "VHS" on their official website - even in the address. With all the betas and stuff it was super easy to look for VHS, seeing it's apparently not on Steam, thinking maybe it's not out yet/access is limited and moving on. Just a bunch of bad decisions regarding branding and advertisement really...
Trickstershadow? He went to VHS for a while after playing DbD for years, but has now returned to DbD. He('ll) probably be/was devastated when he hears/heard about this. :(
I played in the beta and was very active in the Discord-I think some of the people who seem to be "celebrating" were probably also in the Discord during the beta days...it was a disaster. Literally all criticism of the game was shot down, people would get absolutely dogpiled and gaslit to all hell, especially by the mods themselves. Multiple mods power tripped and banned people a bunch. The devs themselves weren't always fantastic in the server either and the whole thing with the keys goes a lot deeper than "they withheld them", it is genuinely one of the worst servers I'd ever been in and it ended with a ton of people losing respect for the devs entirely. If I wanted to define "toxic positivity" I'd just point over there. I saw a lot of people say they started to feel crazy for just suggesting if things continued in the same direction the game would fail, so seeing it die might cause a weird cathartic feeling. Also, the devs themselves talked in the server very early on about how they refused to buy any advertising for the game. They straight up admitted they had zero intentions of marketing it, they had a confidence streamers hyping it up on Twitch would be enough. Their main reasoning was "we don't want to market a game that isn't finished." they got MANY warnings from the community about this, and they didn't listen. I am sad to see VHS go, the concept was so unique, but honestly, it would take a lot for me to even glance at any future projects after this. I agree people shouldn't be assholes on Twitter, but...goodness do I ever understand why they're doing it
Holy shit "toxic positivity" is the perfect term to describe the VHS comminity. I spent so much time voiceing my concerns and potential balance fixes, along with voicing positives and calling out toxic assholes. Then I'd get shit on by diehards whenever I'd say any basic critique they didn't agree with.
Precisely, I was banned from the discord by a 1 day old mod for voicing some criticism I had with the game. I was then given an email to appeal, and never heard back.
@@Conantas YEP same I learned very quickly I had to talk a certain way if I didn't wanna get the banhammer. also I wonder if things would've gone better if the devs had done an open beta rather than spending literal hours managing key drops in their discord (and not even managing to deliver, they missed the majority of promised dates for dropping keys)
The skill gap between different waves of players can be a major problem. I watched the same happen to Darwin Project, which developed a hardcore top 100 or so players who just rolfstomped new players into quitting.
@@redscratch585 Haha yeah, you play a few games and think "this is fun" then you run into a lvl 100+ or play ranked and genuinely don't understand what the hell people are doing to you haha. I got over that hump eventually but starting out it can be kinda rough
It was hellish to learn monster as I started playing when it just came from closed beta. Though I did enjoy playing it for a long time after getting my footing as monster and I miss it. The gaslighting positivity of the community and lack of advertising especially hurt it. Also some shady stuff behind the scenes but I loved the game and was hopeful for the new content especially the very cool graveyard map that looked fantastic and I really wanted to try.
same thing happend with the cycle after season 3 its shutting down cuz the studio just freaking gave up the games so new and it had so much potential to grow but they didnt make monety on the season 2 battle pass and said FUCK IT and shut the game down forever and screapped the story mode
I really enjoyed my time with VHS. I have over 100 hours. The fact that they have to shut it down is tragic, because it had potential and some really cool designs.
I really did want to give the game a try, playing as a werewolf would've been cool... but I decided to wait because I was worried it'd be a bully the killer kind of thing and honestly... it looked like it was... maybe not for the good players and such but for me, it would've been a bully simulator. It wouldn't have been fun for me until quite some time in, I imagine.
100% bully simulator. Monster being locked out of ALL abilities while taking any microscopic amount of damage, as well as being slowed to a snails pace, was gross. It took them ages to even try to remedy teens corner camping. There was too much cheap kills and noninteractive things.
I am super sad that the game is shutting down. Not because I was an active player or active in the community but because of the hopes I had for it. When I started playing the game it literally gave me anxiety attacks because of the person I was playing with. However, when it released in early access and I played it again, it gave me so much joy. I met so many people, I relearned how it feels to be excited about a video game and essentially it gave me back my love for DbD. I miss playing the game and I will miss it even more when it's gone. I really hope the Devs learn from this because not just the game had so much potential, they have too. There are so many incredibly skilled and kind people over there at hellbent and I wish them nothing but the best 💕
Wart, anomaly, and doll master were so unique and I would kill to see them come back in someway. Wart was the demogorgon of vhs with how loved he was and I want my good boy back
VHS was SOOOOO good! when it first started. Only reason I didn't play it as much as I wanted to is because I wanted a friend to play it with but no one I know would. I played solo many times. I stopped playing because I was lonely. lol but apparently they ruined it in later patches after I left and the newer killer was the nail in the coffin
in the question on advertising on VHS I did actually hear/know about it before streamers mentioned it, I actually followed it for a while with excitement and legit thought it was be a successor(not dethroning) to DBD. Same with propnight, which I really dont like but is still somehow live though Im not going to lie, it really wasn't advertised well. If I wasn't actively searching for similar games to DBD I never would have seen it.. found out about TCM the same way
It's sad to see it go. It had potential, it just needed a lot of balancing work. I stopped playing because of long wait times and can concur with your statement about their lack of advertising, as I didn't even know there was a killer called the Anomaly.
Oh yeah, the devs literally spent 0$ on marketing it seems. It was just plagued with problems that were both because of the team, and not. Just an unfortunate set of circumstances for them.
VHS genuinely was so fun I have loads of hours in it. The problem is that monster gameplay could be hell since there are many people who are really good at teen
NGL, I've never even heard of VHS until just now and I do frequent a lot of DbD and other horror related content creators. I think that in itself is a testament to how little advertisement this game got, but regardless its sad to see passion projects like this completely shut down, especially before it even reaches a broad audience.
I'm bummed. I've only played it once because of que times. I actually kept a folder on one of my phone screens with the player count so I could hop on if the player base started to climb, but it's been hovering at 20-50 players for my time of gaming. Which would mean at times there would be 5 lobbies world wide if I tried to get in. It's a real shame because while I love DBD they do need some sort of competition and every asym horror I've tried over the past 5-6 years has died quickly.
The only online advertising I saw was when they decided to jump in about their game when DBD/bhvr was in hot water over their Pinhead NFT collection where they said they’d “never sell out & scam their community like DBD”
Curious for opinions, personally I wouldn’t invest a dime or any time into their next project until it is DONE! I feel like too many little studios do early beta after early beta after early beta and in the end it’s basically stealing money from consumers who support them
That’s not a bad point. For example, I like the way TCM did the tech test in that it was purely a gameplay test. There were no purchases to be made, no investments, just “here’s the game, have a crack”. VHS bringing in a store through the beta was a strange decision considering you wouldn’t have been able to take any purchases over to the full game anyways
@@AaronDukeYT VHS had a real money transaction store when EA launched in July of 2022. During Beta, you could get Cosmetics with Flux only (in game currency). The Devs were far from greedy. The game was free. People know EA means Early Access and the point is for Gamers to help with game development if they wish. The Devs are awesome people. Watch their Devlogs. They are a bunch of sweethearts. It obviously killed them the game didn't make it. The game industry is just a brutal arena. Most games don't make it big. I still play VHS and will until the game is over for good. But people have to stop with the unjust accusations of VHS Devs robbing them somehow. Adults need to act like them. When you invest in a venture project its a bet it will make it. You're supporting a dream, but dreams don't always come true. Finally, $100 when most people who spent that kind of money put in hundreds of hours. That's a good return on investment. RE6 is $70 and you get 30 hours out of it. I've gotten more than 400 hours out of VHS for my $100. Absolutely great value.
it may sound mean but I'm not unhappy or really happy just indifferent about VHS being cancelled because they in my eyes dug their own grave so far that not even Minecraft Steve could get out.
Not surprised to see it go but definitely a bit sad. It was a game that had a lot of potential, but the long lobby wait times for VHS killed it. That and the map size. There were multiple matches in a row that I spawned right by the monster. It was insane.
the devs have tried to make the monster experience easier/less stressful, but I think people buried it without giving it a try when they did add those alleviating changes. Example the Danger Sense that would have a visual cue around your reticle whenever a teen with a charged weapon was with in 16m of your position. This mechanic did make the whole 'ambushed by a silent solo ninja' almost completely non-factor, but at the same time made the monster role a bit too easy. Anytime the Danger Sense sprung up I would know that I can back up a little and either bait some ammo usage or just wait for my defensive skill to be ready before proceeding. Monster was boring as it became a match of I would know when I would be in danger and I can prolong the game to get my safe hits and force the game to be 30 mins slowly baiting the use of their ammo reserves. I also was afflicted with a bug that the tech help couldn't solve that no matter what mic I used, the game would acknowledge its existence but not accept its usage so I only had the pings to work with on teens and every teen game there were maybe 1-2 out of every 10 players who would communicate
Honestly when FF13 launched and VAC banned someone without proof all b/c a dev's friend wanted to troll the lobby and the guy got heated (rightfully so) it put a bad taste in my mouth from day 1. VHS I feel bad over, I really wish that DBD would get proper competition, it's healthy and encourages better performance. But VHS was unique enough that I enjoyed it.
Playing monster was one of the worst multiplayer experiences I've had in a videogame. The devs seemed to refuse to make it any better and just keep it a bully simulator for teen players. Not sad to see this one go.
VHS was fun for when I played it and I played it recently but I will always be a dbd player and huge fan of there work, but VHS was prob the closest game for me that was just as fun as dbd. But it is sadly true that they didnt post or update anybody about there game having new killers or even a change to the game I had to watch streamers to get any news from the games updates, which for me is really sad and I hope the team of VHS really do learn from that game because they are really talented people in the gaming world and VHS will always be on my list of good horror for gaming and I hope they dont stop with horror and make something just as good.
I'm sad to see it go, we need more asymmetrical games. I knew about because I seen Monto play it on stream. I kept hoping they would work through the problems so more people would have fun playing it. When there are good games to play, gamers win! 💜
i am, to be honest, sad but not surprised about VHS. even just a few months after the game released it was difficult to get any matches, and the game was horribly balanced. not to mention they made a lot of STRICTLY AESTHETIC choices that personally triggered my epilepsy (never a full seizure, luckily, but as anyone who has epilepsy knows, there are times u can feel whats going to happen ahead of time). i emphasize strictly aesthetic because that's what the choices they made were; entirely for the sake of aesthetics, but you couldn't turn them off, and it was dangerous for me and i'm sure, some other epileptic fans. i loved the idea of VHS (and I'm sad i never got to finish the characters' lores) but with the choices they made that endangered, at the very least, my health, i'm not surprised
dont know what they expected tbh no advertising and they game had been annuonced what septemmber 2021 did they really think the hype would carry on for 2 years when its not even fully out yet
It's always sad no matter what game shuts down these games had a good run, some short some long but we should be proud of the work these teams have done, even if we can't play it anymore
I was able to get the game from Keymailer to test out and while the premise was fun, I could never get into a match as a survivor and the game itself was limited in it's play time for me. I only ended up playing it a handful of times.
I think balance was a massive issue in the game. I almost exclusively played monster and in most games you had to take it easy on the survivors because you can't just bully and tunnel someone in a game like that and expect people to have fun or want to continue playing. However, in a minority of the games I played, maybe ~10%, it was an extreme struggle to even down a single survivor as a 4 stack team of good players is extremely hard to deal with. The big issue with games nowadays is that people play them hyper competitively and no longer play games to have fun so a game has to be balanced around the minority player base that is hyper competitive and willing to exploit bugs or game design flaws to win. I enjoyed VHS, but playing the game to win was not the correct strategy if you wanted the game to survive, which I think the DBD community wanted it to fail to begin with.
As sad as I am about VHS dying, hellbent kinda did it to themselves, the closed beta lasted way longer then it should of, monster being a massive pain in the ass to play, lack of advertisement. I hope the new projects they make learn from VHS and it's failures, hellbent please for the love of God don't keep closed beta as long as VHS was in if you do run one.
i'm so sad VHS is going down.... i never felt it would "kill" DBD i personally felt the differences were enough that they filled slightly different niche's. VHS was fast becoming my favorite A-sym and i especially enjoyed some of the nostalgic feel that reminded me of the first major asym before dbd... Evolve (another sad case that died before it could truly flourish). Despite my social anxiety i was enjoying VHS enough i was actually seriously considering becoming a content creator so i could maybe try for rewinder. there were multiple issues, i think they could have launched instead of EA and started advertising and still done OK. but in all honesty from my experience with the game, they should have Launched with Reggy, kept Anomaly in the back burner (they really dropped him before he was developed and balanced enough imo anyway) because after Reggy dropped the balance/playerbase issues were actually in a pretty good place. but i know there was probably alot more going on behind the scenes than i know. but that's my 2 cents so to speak.
I didn't really like vhs when i played it. The tutorial was missing important game mechanics, the long queue times, the games were just too long. I asko agreed that you shouldn't gatekeep beta key for a free to olay game
I think the news is sad. I personally never really got into friday the 13th or VHS. I tried both and I liked them but I never felt like I was getting better and it just stopped me from playing. I do feel it is sad because people worked on the game and there were others that really enjoyed it. To see anything end that provided jobs for people and bought joy to others is sad imo. But I do agree that there was a lack of marketing and upkeep.
One of the rewinders was dating a minor for a period of time, and was pretty non-shalant about it. They were removed them because they were toxic, but that aspect didn't help.
On a Saturday night I decided to look at VHS on twitch. 1 streamer from Mexico so I couldnt understand what was being said. They had 12 viewers. I am sad that I never got to have a chance to play this game
VHS had 2 major issues unfortunately. 1st was advertising as you said. Even the content creators basically didn't get paid to stream...which is normal and natural to a point but then you need to put in some effort as a company with drops, codes, or affiliates. 2nd was content. They teased the new teen for months and months with false release windows.... the game was available for nearly 2 years but 1 teen and 2 monsters were added... that ain't a content amount that can survive modern gaming. Their cosmetic game was fire tho.
I want to see other asym games succeed, but it's worth mentioning that VHS kinda killed their own game. No advertising at all, I believe EA released on the literal day BEFORE the midchapter balance patch last year with ZERO advertisement if you weren't in the discord, and those things didn't get the game off on a great footing imo. That is, of course, on top of some of the gameplay issues. I want to be clear, I liked VHS, but some of the gameplay issues on the killer side (honestly some on survivor, some of the stalemates were incredibly boring) seemed to never be fixed, and the player count dwindling for months on end did not help. A couple of weeks ago I had this hair up my ass to check on the game, because I hadn't played it in so long. I expected maybe 600 people online. There were...67. This was like a Friday evening too. That's like the size of a college class lol. Ultimately tho, gameplay issues weren't the core problem. I felt like nobody knew this game existed, and the developers didn't do an amazing job of advertising their game. Maybe "killed their own game" is a bit mean of me to say, but it's akin to releasing your brand new MMO on the day a new WoW expansion comes out. Your launch will suffer. I think if VHS had been released during the recent dry spell in DBD, where a lot of people complained that the game was feeling stale, they might've had a better launch. That plus, some advertising.
So, wait.. If you already have VHS, will you still be able to play it after it shuts down in September, just only if you have friends to play it with? or..?
Him you don't have to be like yeah it died nah fuck that. Are we gonna ignore all the hate dbd got I remember people saying when vhs got hacked that it was dbd that hacked them like what. Also the constant hate on the devs people on vhs channels were like damn this game is so polished better then dbd. Bruh and you want me not to celebrate lmao
It's very sad to see these games close its doors even tho it's games I haven't played at all. After having one my favorite games close its servers it's something I wouldn't wish on anyone so I feel for you all 💚
i really, really loved the game loop and the game play of VHS, but the biggest obstacle for me enjoying it to the fullest was the discrepancy between beta gamers and early access gamers. I would get stomped game after game after game and I would get a kill as a monster once every 5 to 10 games. that's no way of enjoying a game, as fun as a game concept would be only ever getting destroyed in that game will eventually kill all the fun... rip vhs
I will play this game every day and on the 7 september i will sing in a lobby "Country roads" maybe with some friends. I want to celebrate it's end like it was a soldier going to war because this game was realy good in what they did and i think it deserves a good ending. I also hope it will come back one day maybe. To VHS : "It has been and is an honor playing you" o7
Monster in VHS, at least when I played, basically usually devolved into these weird stalemates where you're more scared of the survivors and actively fleeing like a cornered rat.
I only knew about VHS when my buddy was streaming it at the time, I didn't see them play it as much because of them doing other stuff on the side and yeah, I haven't seen many people play VHS. I just wish it came on consoles and of course, console players will love to play something like these and give it a go. But it a shame. I hope they have a better content coming out and wow us with something similar to VHS or something. That will be amazing ❤ thank you Aaron again for your content and I hope you are well ❤ let the future be brighter for the developers ❤
Very sad. I actually really liked vhs the astetic really resonated with me and thw way you fight back was way fun. If only it had a console release it may have lived on.
VHS was a fun game for the most part, but vsing the robot was such a bore. Survivors couldn't get anything done and we'd be defeated in like 2 seconds. On top of that, trying to load into matches took way too long because not enough people were playing. If they had done their advertising correctly and stuck to their word on a lot of things, VHS would be thriving right now. It's such a shame.
Friday the 13th was a blast until the license debacle in 2019. But I felt that I was ripped off by buying all the DLC only to have the game stop evolving, which made it remarkably dull in a short period of time.
I’ve never played either of these games, but I think it’s unfortunate in both cases. While I’m not surprised that either is shutting down, it still sucks for anyone who genuinely enjoyed the games. As for VHS, I think their marketing and lack of direction and consistent content is what killed the game the most. I never saw anything for the game that wasn’t shown off by a DbD creator. People need to stop with this toxic mindset of one game toppling the other. I’m so excited for TCM’s game but it’s not going to stop me from playing DbD either.
I don’t love it, but I also don’t hate it. I’m sad for those who enjoyed the game, and some of the things Hellbent did certainly needed to be addressed. However, I want all games to succeed. I want people who believe in their work to get great things out of it. It’s a sad moment, and those who feel the sting should at least have the chance for a final run. I am also sad because having competitors to push other asyms means interesting new developments for all. It causes interesting innovations that can elevate the games for everyone. So in that, I am sad.
I had so much fun playing the beta and i was looking forward to playing it during early access. It finally came to steam and my friend and I waited in a lobby for 15+ min for 1 game and got spanked within the first 2 min of the match. Not really fun. And periodically, i would check the amount of people were currently playing and it was like 100 something. Once I saw that, I knew it was dead.
Yeah it didn’t have a great launch into early access, and I think that’s largely because you just kinda forgot the game existed and had come back unless you were actively following it
I have almost 900 hours in the game and I'm really sad about VHS closing the doors. This was my main game, I have countless hours of content recorded and now it's all gone. What are we supposed to do after the game closes? I took a break after some of the VHS creators got targeted by mean spirited people trying to dox them, and then extended the break after the playerbase declined even more. I was hoping they would get a resurgence, put out advertisements and get some new players into it. I don't care about the money spent, I care about the potential this game had being wasted. The concept is amazing, the product is in my opinion great and it deserved more.
I was literally just waiting for VHS to hit consoles. Thats were they screwed up. Bad. Console makes up a lot of the player base. Hate that I wasted time waiting for them at all.
Personally, I am sad to see potential competition for DBD fail. Just to give behavior a reason to actually fix issues. But I did not enjoy VHS myself... but that is due to personal limitations (hearing impaired) which made playing the monster role near impossible.. Hopefully TCM trades blows with DBD at least for a few years. Again to see behavior actually prioritize bugs and game play issues.
Im sad friday the 13th is ending, been playing it since the beginning, play it everday with the family, i think a lot of games would do better and survive if they put it to console, as a console player we dont have much multi-player online games that arent shooters
I mean it isnt any different than behaviour shutting down Death Garden before coming back with DBD so maybe hellbent will end up with the same outcome.
Are you sad to see Video Horror Society close it's doors? Or do you think it's a long time coming?
Game dying in my opinion was just a matter of time. I know there were some people who liked it, but for me it was not a good game and I think many could say so as well.
Its kinda like Hawkins map in DbD. When it existed a huge amount of community disliked it, but now that it's gone everyone recalls it that it was great map and all purely (I think) because of nostalgia.
And the same thing will most likely happen with Friday the 13th.
And not mentioning VHS, because I know basically nothing about this game. I didn't play it and maybe have seen like 2 matches of it ever, so yeah.
Yeah, it's sad. Lawbreakers, Gigantic, Battleborn etc. All dead and gone.
I know what Friday the 13th is and it looked bad but what is video horror society?
Edit: Ironic how later in the video you cover the fact that they didn't advertise 😂
Didn‘t even know who they are
ever since they got attacked AGAIN a couple months ago, that was the final straw. i just wish hellbent tried harder to keep their game protected, balanced and well promoted
I think nowadays if you’re going to make a free to play game, especially a niche like this, you have to have a console release ready to go at the same time, console easily make up around 60-80% of some games.
Very good point!
right!! i was so interested in VHS and wanted to play it, but i couldn't bc i'm not on PC.
its really not as easy as you think, and its VERY expensive to get cross progression, which a lot of people say is a standard nowadays
@@jayyh_01 I mean you really don’t need cross progression, cross platform and sorted, im sure it’s not as easy as that but my point is that games nowadays especially pc only online games, struggle massively without cross platform play
@@zebzgame The Outlast Trials are doing great =)
VHS went from the game that some said would kill DBD to a game fighting for its life. It had potential. Sad and strange, we live in a world where new games die while games from the 90s live on forever.
Never was the game that could “kill” dbd how many competitors came with the same thing ? And all failed if you are a true dbd player you know off rip if a game will even have a chance especially with them getting stronger with licenses collabs 2 new games a Movie , Comic etc lol
@@SAR500 yeah at this point dbd is far too big to beat. A new game trying to kill dbd would be like an ant trying to kill godzilla
I will never forget the reddit post that claimed bhvr did a bloodhunt to detract from the vhs beta and all the creators who jumped ship to the "dbd killer". GG no re
@@RyanLeeSergentfacts honestly I'm glad it died the amount of hate I saw on vhs videos to dbd was disgusting. Don't get me wrong dbd devs are ass but every update people were like omg these devs are so much better etc. I even remember when they got hacked they said it's dbd devs hacking them because their scared vhs is gonna kill dead by daylight lmao. Dbd almost couldn't handle hackers on their game but sure it was dbd devs 😂
@@pennytrui1149 Yeah that shit was so cope, gg no re
I had completely forgotten about this game because I never saw anything about it after it was initially announced. I recall watching Otz play it once, but then it vanished off my radar.
The lack of advertising and the fact it went into early access was what I feel put the nails in the coffin. Putting the game into early access would mean splitting the cost between keeping the game up along with developing and finishing the final product, along with they they began adding new content before the game was finished, for a studio as small as Hellbent with no publisher backing it, there's really isn't a surprise that the game became a money sink for them. It's such a shame because I really wanted this game to succeed and do it's own thing.
Seeing Friday the 13th go hurts
That game helped me through so much and it was my first asym game I ever played and have 100× more hours in it than i do in dbd.
I had so much fun with it and it distracted me from all the horrible things happening to me at the time.
A very sad loss for everyone.
Facts, I was going through a terrible break up when Friday the 13th came out and as crazy as it sounds that game helped me through the heartbreak. So much fun memories on that game, sad to see it officially go, but I’m looking forward to Texas Chainsaw Massacre game now.
One thing nobody talks about regarding VHS's failure is the name. Everybody calls it VHS, but it's called Video Horror Society - and when you type VHS in the Steam search bar, even now that it's changed, it just doesn't pop up. For the longest time it didn't even appear on the drop down list if you looked for "Video" (it does now) - some time ago I wanted to check how the game's doing (I've never played it personally) and couldn't for the love of me remember its full name, just "VHS", Video... something something. I do believe it matters as many people just didn't bother looking for the game outside of watching some streams if typing "VHS" on Steam gave them nothing. Just my opinion though. Great vid as always :)
Yeah, I think this is a very good point, actually. Also worth mentioning that unlike their lack of advertisement, this issue was mostly out of their hands. They were forced to change the name, and honestly maybe they could've gone with something more catchy? Whenever I mentioned VHS to my friends, to kind of update them on the slow death the game was experiencing, they were like "Oh, that game exists still?" lol.
@@brad1426 Of course you're right, but they kept "VHS" on their official website - even in the address. With all the betas and stuff it was super easy to look for VHS, seeing it's apparently not on Steam, thinking maybe it's not out yet/access is limited and moving on. Just a bunch of bad decisions regarding branding and advertisement really...
If it wasn't for a DBD content creator I would never have known about this game.
Trickstershadow? He went to VHS for a while after playing DbD for years, but has now returned to DbD. He('ll) probably be/was devastated when he hears/heard about this. :(
I played in the beta and was very active in the Discord-I think some of the people who seem to be "celebrating" were probably also in the Discord during the beta days...it was a disaster. Literally all criticism of the game was shot down, people would get absolutely dogpiled and gaslit to all hell, especially by the mods themselves. Multiple mods power tripped and banned people a bunch. The devs themselves weren't always fantastic in the server either and the whole thing with the keys goes a lot deeper than "they withheld them", it is genuinely one of the worst servers I'd ever been in and it ended with a ton of people losing respect for the devs entirely. If I wanted to define "toxic positivity" I'd just point over there. I saw a lot of people say they started to feel crazy for just suggesting if things continued in the same direction the game would fail, so seeing it die might cause a weird cathartic feeling. Also, the devs themselves talked in the server very early on about how they refused to buy any advertising for the game. They straight up admitted they had zero intentions of marketing it, they had a confidence streamers hyping it up on Twitch would be enough. Their main reasoning was "we don't want to market a game that isn't finished." they got MANY warnings from the community about this, and they didn't listen. I am sad to see VHS go, the concept was so unique, but honestly, it would take a lot for me to even glance at any future projects after this. I agree people shouldn't be assholes on Twitter, but...goodness do I ever understand why they're doing it
Holy shit "toxic positivity" is the perfect term to describe the VHS comminity. I spent so much time voiceing my concerns and potential balance fixes, along with voicing positives and calling out toxic assholes. Then I'd get shit on by diehards whenever I'd say any basic critique they didn't agree with.
Precisely, I was banned from the discord by a 1 day old mod for voicing some criticism I had with the game. I was then given an email to appeal, and never heard back.
@@Clown_the_Clown certain mods were stable and always there, but oh man mod turnover for abusing power was so high it was nuts
@@Conantas YEP same I learned very quickly I had to talk a certain way if I didn't wanna get the banhammer. also I wonder if things would've gone better if the devs had done an open beta rather than spending literal hours managing key drops in their discord (and not even managing to deliver, they missed the majority of promised dates for dropping keys)
@@AveryAnarchy I think and Open Beta would have lessened the skill gaps
The skill gap between different waves of players can be a major problem. I watched the same happen to Darwin Project, which developed a hardcore top 100 or so players who just rolfstomped new players into quitting.
mordhau has the same problem
@@zenix3318 Really? Damn, I've picked it up and not tried it yet. That'll be a fun weekend 😮💨
@@redscratch585 Haha yeah, you play a few games and think "this is fun" then you run into a lvl 100+ or play ranked and genuinely don't understand what the hell people are doing to you haha. I got over that hump eventually but starting out it can be kinda rough
It was hellish to learn monster as I started playing when it just came from closed beta. Though I did enjoy playing it for a long time after getting my footing as monster and I miss it. The gaslighting positivity of the community and lack of advertising especially hurt it. Also some shady stuff behind the scenes but I loved the game and was hopeful for the new content especially the very cool graveyard map that looked fantastic and I really wanted to try.
I'm really upset at the devs for VHS. It had so much potential. Rest in Peace.
It definitely did! Was a shame to see it go :(
same thing happend with the cycle after season 3 its shutting down cuz the studio just freaking gave up the games so new and it had so much potential to grow but they didnt make monety on the season 2 battle pass and said FUCK IT and shut the game down forever and screapped the story mode
I honestly thought the game died already cause there was no advertisement for vhs.
When developers cater toward the human team too much in an asymmetrical:
I really enjoyed my time with VHS. I have over 100 hours. The fact that they have to shut it down is tragic, because it had potential and some really cool designs.
I really did want to give the game a try, playing as a werewolf would've been cool... but I decided to wait because I was worried it'd be a bully the killer kind of thing and honestly... it looked like it was... maybe not for the good players and such but for me, it would've been a bully simulator. It wouldn't have been fun for me until quite some time in, I imagine.
100% bully simulator. Monster being locked out of ALL abilities while taking any microscopic amount of damage, as well as being slowed to a snails pace, was gross. It took them ages to even try to remedy teens corner camping. There was too much cheap kills and noninteractive things.
Why is it so hard for games to add peer 2 peer servers so they arent dead forever. Im glad at least one did it.
Remember Space Coconut defending this? Yeah, there were times.
Lol
I am super sad that the game is shutting down. Not because I was an active player or active in the community but because of the hopes I had for it. When I started playing the game it literally gave me anxiety attacks because of the person I was playing with. However, when it released in early access and I played it again, it gave me so much joy. I met so many people, I relearned how it feels to be excited about a video game and essentially it gave me back my love for DbD.
I miss playing the game and I will miss it even more when it's gone. I really hope the Devs learn from this because not just the game had so much potential, they have too. There are so many incredibly skilled and kind people over there at hellbent and I wish them nothing but the best 💕
Just like Hide or Die, the devs didn't know what they were doing at all.
It's sad, but the killers were really cool.
Wart, anomaly, and doll master were so unique and I would kill to see them come back in someway. Wart was the demogorgon of vhs with how loved he was and I want my good boy back
I can echo that statement. I would never have known about VHS if it weren't for DBD streamers I watch talking about it.
VHS was SOOOOO good! when it first started. Only reason I didn't play it as much as I wanted to is because I wanted a friend to play it with but no one I know would. I played solo many times. I stopped playing because I was lonely. lol but apparently they ruined it in later patches after I left and the newer killer was the nail in the coffin
in the question on advertising on VHS I did actually hear/know about it before streamers mentioned it, I actually followed it for a while with excitement and legit thought it was be a successor(not dethroning) to DBD. Same with propnight, which I really dont like but is still somehow live
though Im not going to lie, it really wasn't advertised well. If I wasn't actively searching for similar games to DBD I never would have seen it.. found out about TCM the same way
It's sad to see it go. It had potential, it just needed a lot of balancing work. I stopped playing because of long wait times and can concur with your statement about their lack of advertising, as I didn't even know there was a killer called the Anomaly.
Oh yeah, the devs literally spent 0$ on marketing it seems. It was just plagued with problems that were both because of the team, and not. Just an unfortunate set of circumstances for them.
What it needed was players. It didn't have enough. Marketing and content is how you get players.
You also needed those players to stay. Having your player count go from 6000 to averaging around 100 is never going to look good.
It's sad to see but somehow I saw this coming from the start. I honestly completely forgot about this game for the last months
VHS genuinely was so fun I have loads of hours in it. The problem is that monster gameplay could be hell since there are many people who are really good at teen
I actually didnt even know Anomaly had released because people didnt talk about it
NGL, I've never even heard of VHS until just now and I do frequent a lot of DbD and other horror related content creators.
I think that in itself is a testament to how little advertisement this game got, but regardless its sad to see passion projects like this completely shut down, especially before it even reaches a broad audience.
I'm bummed. I've only played it once because of que times. I actually kept a folder on one of my phone screens with the player count so I could hop on if the player base started to climb, but it's been hovering at 20-50 players for my time of gaming. Which would mean at times there would be 5 lobbies world wide if I tried to get in. It's a real shame because while I love DBD they do need some sort of competition and every asym horror I've tried over the past 5-6 years has died quickly.
i forgot VHS even existed until i saw your video, i had to google the name of it
The only online advertising I saw was when they decided to jump in about their game when DBD/bhvr was in hot water over their Pinhead NFT collection where they said they’d “never sell out & scam their community like DBD”
Yeah i remember that one, not really advertising though so I’m not giving it to them 😂😂
And somehow Last Year is still up and running lol
I legitimately forgot VHS existed, dayum thats rough.
Curious for opinions, personally I wouldn’t invest a dime or any time into their next project until it is DONE! I feel like too many little studios do early beta after early beta after early beta and in the end it’s basically stealing money from consumers who support them
That’s not a bad point. For example, I like the way TCM did the tech test in that it was purely a gameplay test. There were no purchases to be made, no investments, just “here’s the game, have a crack”. VHS bringing in a store through the beta was a strange decision considering you wouldn’t have been able to take any purchases over to the full game anyways
@@AaronDukeYT VHS had a real money transaction store when EA launched in July of 2022. During Beta, you could get Cosmetics with Flux only (in game currency). The Devs were far from greedy. The game was free. People know EA means Early Access and the point is for Gamers to help with game development if they wish. The Devs are awesome people. Watch their Devlogs. They are a bunch of sweethearts. It obviously killed them the game didn't make it. The game industry is just a brutal arena. Most games don't make it big. I still play VHS and will until the game is over for good.
But people have to stop with the unjust accusations of VHS Devs robbing them somehow.
Adults need to act like them.
When you invest in a venture project its a bet it will make it.
You're supporting a dream, but dreams don't always come true.
Finally, $100 when most people who spent that kind of money put in hundreds of hours. That's a good return on investment. RE6 is $70 and you get 30 hours out of it. I've gotten more than 400 hours out of VHS for my $100. Absolutely great value.
I saw the Friday one and even though I never played the game it still sucks because so many of my friends loved it 😢
it may sound mean but I'm not unhappy or really happy just indifferent about VHS being cancelled because they in my eyes dug their own grave so far that not even Minecraft Steve could get out.
@@SPARKLYDEATHCAT why did you mention Minecraft
Not surprised to see it go but definitely a bit sad. It was a game that had a lot of potential, but the long lobby wait times for VHS killed it. That and the map size. There were multiple matches in a row that I spawned right by the monster. It was insane.
the devs have tried to make the monster experience easier/less stressful, but I think people buried it without giving it a try when they did add those alleviating changes. Example the Danger Sense that would have a visual cue around your reticle whenever a teen with a charged weapon was with in 16m of your position. This mechanic did make the whole 'ambushed by a silent solo ninja' almost completely non-factor, but at the same time made the monster role a bit too easy. Anytime the Danger Sense sprung up I would know that I can back up a little and either bait some ammo usage or just wait for my defensive skill to be ready before proceeding. Monster was boring as it became a match of I would know when I would be in danger and I can prolong the game to get my safe hits and force the game to be 30 mins slowly baiting the use of their ammo reserves. I also was afflicted with a bug that the tech help couldn't solve that no matter what mic I used, the game would acknowledge its existence but not accept its usage so I only had the pings to work with on teens and every teen game there were maybe 1-2 out of every 10 players who would communicate
I'd never even heard of video horror society till this video here
That says a lot 😂😂
Honestly when FF13 launched and VAC banned someone without proof all b/c a dev's friend wanted to troll the lobby and the guy got heated (rightfully so) it put a bad taste in my mouth from day 1. VHS I feel bad over, I really wish that DBD would get proper competition, it's healthy and encourages better performance. But VHS was unique enough that I enjoyed it.
I want to dbd buy VHS and put the killers/surv in the roaster
Playing monster was one of the worst multiplayer experiences I've had in a videogame. The devs seemed to refuse to make it any better and just keep it a bully simulator for teen players. Not sad to see this one go.
I mean VHS just straight up looked like shit. I watched vids and streams and it always looked awful in both art and design. It was DOA, in my opinion.
Big thing in this game was it was and is balanced like päin vittua.
VHS was fun for when I played it and I played it recently but I will always be a dbd player and huge fan of there work, but VHS was prob the closest game for me that was just as fun as dbd. But it is sadly true that they didnt post or update anybody about there game having new killers or even a change to the game I had to watch streamers to get any news from the games updates, which for me is really sad and I hope the team of VHS really do learn from that game because they are really talented people in the gaming world and VHS will always be on my list of good horror for gaming and I hope they dont stop with horror and make something just as good.
I'm sad to see it go, we need more asymmetrical games. I knew about because I seen Monto play it on stream. I kept hoping they would work through the problems so more people would have fun playing it. When there are good games to play, gamers win! 💜
i am, to be honest, sad but not surprised about VHS. even just a few months after the game released it was difficult to get any matches, and the game was horribly balanced. not to mention they made a lot of STRICTLY AESTHETIC choices that personally triggered my epilepsy (never a full seizure, luckily, but as anyone who has epilepsy knows, there are times u can feel whats going to happen ahead of time). i emphasize strictly aesthetic because that's what the choices they made were; entirely for the sake of aesthetics, but you couldn't turn them off, and it was dangerous for me and i'm sure, some other epileptic fans. i loved the idea of VHS (and I'm sad i never got to finish the characters' lores) but with the choices they made that endangered, at the very least, my health, i'm not surprised
dont know what they expected tbh no advertising and they game had been annuonced what septemmber 2021 did they really think the hype would carry on for 2 years when its not even fully out yet
It's always sad no matter what game shuts down these games had a good run, some short some long but we should be proud of the work these teams have done, even if we can't play it anymore
I really enjoy all your content Aaron 🤟🏾 sometimes I’m watching gameplays sometimes I’m watching the news lol
Gotta keep you guessing man 😁
I was able to get the game from Keymailer to test out and while the premise was fun, I could never get into a match as a survivor and the game itself was limited in it's play time for me. I only ended up playing it a handful of times.
I think balance was a massive issue in the game. I almost exclusively played monster and in most games you had to take it easy on the survivors because you can't just bully and tunnel someone in a game like that and expect people to have fun or want to continue playing. However, in a minority of the games I played, maybe ~10%, it was an extreme struggle to even down a single survivor as a 4 stack team of good players is extremely hard to deal with. The big issue with games nowadays is that people play them hyper competitively and no longer play games to have fun so a game has to be balanced around the minority player base that is hyper competitive and willing to exploit bugs or game design flaws to win. I enjoyed VHS, but playing the game to win was not the correct strategy if you wanted the game to survive, which I think the DBD community wanted it to fail to begin with.
There are toxic people trying to blame dbd when they had nothing to do what hellbent has done with lack of advertising
As sad as I am about VHS dying, hellbent kinda did it to themselves, the closed beta lasted way longer then it should of, monster being a massive pain in the ass to play, lack of advertisement. I hope the new projects they make learn from VHS and it's failures, hellbent please for the love of God don't keep closed beta as long as VHS was in if you do run one.
i'm so sad VHS is going down.... i never felt it would "kill" DBD i personally felt the differences were enough that they filled slightly different niche's. VHS was fast becoming my favorite A-sym and i especially enjoyed some of the nostalgic feel that reminded me of the first major asym before dbd... Evolve (another sad case that died before it could truly flourish). Despite my social anxiety i was enjoying VHS enough i was actually seriously considering becoming a content creator so i could maybe try for rewinder. there were multiple issues, i think they could have launched instead of EA and started advertising and still done OK. but in all honesty from my experience with the game, they should have Launched with Reggy, kept Anomaly in the back burner (they really dropped him before he was developed and balanced enough imo anyway) because after Reggy dropped the balance/playerbase issues were actually in a pretty good place. but i know there was probably alot more going on behind the scenes than i know. but that's my 2 cents so to speak.
I didn't really like vhs when i played it. The tutorial was missing important game mechanics, the long queue times, the games were just too long. I asko agreed that you shouldn't gatekeep beta key for a free to olay game
I think the news is sad. I personally never really got into friday the 13th or VHS. I tried both and I liked them but I never felt like I was getting better and it just stopped me from playing. I do feel it is sad because people worked on the game and there were others that really enjoyed it. To see anything end that provided jobs for people and bought joy to others is sad imo. But I do agree that there was a lack of marketing and upkeep.
isn't VHS the game that had an admitted groomer as a "Rewinder" and they refused to address it properly?
What is a groomer?
wait whats a rewinder?
@@cecilbenderman6240 the affiliates, just like a fog whisperer to dbd
@@mitchsz ohhh okay, that makes sense! thank u for clarifying!
One of the rewinders was dating a minor for a period of time, and was pretty non-shalant about it.
They were removed them because they were toxic, but that aspect didn't help.
On a Saturday night I decided to look at VHS on twitch. 1 streamer from Mexico so I couldnt understand what was being said. They had 12 viewers. I am sad that I never got to have a chance to play this game
I saw Stream have a popup for VHS when it was about to release, but nothing else than that really
It's a shame it's ending. I never got to play it but it from what I saw it looked like a lot of fun
Me and group of the lads tried to play it a few months ago. It straight up didn't work for us lmao
like 15 minutes of afk queue and nothing
VHS had 2 major issues unfortunately. 1st was advertising as you said. Even the content creators basically didn't get paid to stream...which is normal and natural to a point but then you need to put in some effort as a company with drops, codes, or affiliates.
2nd was content. They teased the new teen for months and months with false release windows.... the game was available for nearly 2 years but 1 teen and 2 monsters were added... that ain't a content amount that can survive modern gaming.
Their cosmetic game was fire tho.
I want to see other asym games succeed, but it's worth mentioning that VHS kinda killed their own game.
No advertising at all, I believe EA released on the literal day BEFORE the midchapter balance patch last year with ZERO advertisement if you weren't in the discord, and those things didn't get the game off on a great footing imo.
That is, of course, on top of some of the gameplay issues. I want to be clear, I liked VHS, but some of the gameplay issues on the killer side (honestly some on survivor, some of the stalemates were incredibly boring) seemed to never be fixed, and the player count dwindling for months on end did not help. A couple of weeks ago I had this hair up my ass to check on the game, because I hadn't played it in so long. I expected maybe 600 people online. There were...67. This was like a Friday evening too. That's like the size of a college class lol.
Ultimately tho, gameplay issues weren't the core problem. I felt like nobody knew this game existed, and the developers didn't do an amazing job of advertising their game.
Maybe "killed their own game" is a bit mean of me to say, but it's akin to releasing your brand new MMO on the day a new WoW expansion comes out. Your launch will suffer.
I think if VHS had been released during the recent dry spell in DBD, where a lot of people complained that the game was feeling stale, they might've had a better launch. That plus, some advertising.
So, wait.. If you already have VHS, will you still be able to play it after it shuts down in September, just only if you have friends to play it with? or..?
Nope, once it shuts down in September, it’s no longer playable
Him you don't have to be like yeah it died nah fuck that. Are we gonna ignore all the hate dbd got I remember people saying when vhs got hacked that it was dbd that hacked them like what. Also the constant hate on the devs people on vhs channels were like damn this game is so polished better then dbd. Bruh and you want me not to celebrate lmao
Remember when everyone said this game would kill dbd💀💀
Games these days should really try to reinvent the wheel.
It's hard to beat existing games with years of updates behind them as a new product.
It's very sad to see these games close its doors even tho it's games I haven't played at all. After having one my favorite games close its servers it's something I wouldn't wish on anyone so I feel for you all 💚
i really, really loved the game loop and the game play of VHS, but the biggest obstacle for me enjoying it to the fullest was the discrepancy between beta gamers and early access gamers. I would get stomped game after game after game and I would get a kill as a monster once every 5 to 10 games. that's no way of enjoying a game, as fun as a game concept would be only ever getting destroyed in that game will eventually kill all the fun... rip vhs
That is a major bummer, I loved the 80s horror theme of vhs.
Didn’t even make it to console. Was hoping and looking forward to it. Also , KnockOut City shutting down as well. Sad.
Dbd has horror legends in it, they have deals with major film makers. No wonder dbd will never die
Exactly!
I will play this game every day and on the 7 september i will sing in a lobby "Country roads" maybe with some friends.
I want to celebrate it's end like it was a soldier going to war because this game was realy good in what they did and i think it deserves a good ending.
I also hope it will come back one day maybe.
To VHS : "It has been and is an honor playing you" o7
i really liked the design of the game but whenever i saw someone play monster that player got destroyed so fast... did not look fun to me
Monster in VHS, at least when I played, basically usually devolved into these weird stalemates where you're more scared of the survivors and actively fleeing like a cornered rat.
I only knew about VHS when my buddy was streaming it at the time, I didn't see them play it as much because of them doing other stuff on the side and yeah, I haven't seen many people play VHS. I just wish it came on consoles and of course, console players will love to play something like these and give it a go. But it a shame. I hope they have a better content coming out and wow us with something similar to VHS or something. That will be amazing ❤ thank you Aaron again for your content and I hope you are well ❤ let the future be brighter for the developers ❤
Never cared enough about VHS to join in on it. That's all.
Very sad. I actually really liked vhs the astetic really resonated with me and thw way you fight back was way fun. If only it had a console release it may have lived on.
What I dread the most is when all of the licenses for Dead By Daylight run out and we have NO licensed killers anymore...
I doubt that will be happening anytime soon, if ever :)
Hope not.
Literally only hear of this game today, welp.
This is why I don't jump up and buy these games. Sony burned me a long time ago with H1Z1.
2 more "DBD killers" bite the dust, while DBD itself is still going strong.
Yup!
VHS was a fun game for the most part, but vsing the robot was such a bore. Survivors couldn't get anything done and we'd be defeated in like 2 seconds. On top of that, trying to load into matches took way too long because not enough people were playing. If they had done their advertising correctly and stuck to their word on a lot of things, VHS would be thriving right now. It's such a shame.
Friday the 13th was a blast until the license debacle in 2019. But I felt that I was ripped off by buying all the DLC only to have the game stop evolving, which made it remarkably dull in a short period of time.
I’ve never played either of these games, but I think it’s unfortunate in both cases. While I’m not surprised that either is shutting down, it still sucks for anyone who genuinely enjoyed the games.
As for VHS, I think their marketing and lack of direction and consistent content is what killed the game the most. I never saw anything for the game that wasn’t shown off by a DbD creator.
People need to stop with this toxic mindset of one game toppling the other. I’m so excited for TCM’s game but it’s not going to stop me from playing DbD either.
Bruh I actually rly like VHS & Friday too 😭😭😭😭😭 it was such a refreshing change to play these instead of DBD.
I think any variety was always welcomed tbh! Shame to see some of it go away now
I don’t love it, but I also don’t hate it. I’m sad for those who enjoyed the game, and some of the things Hellbent did certainly needed to be addressed. However, I want all games to succeed. I want people who believe in their work to get great things out of it. It’s a sad moment, and those who feel the sting should at least have the chance for a final run. I am also sad because having competitors to push other asyms means interesting new developments for all. It causes interesting innovations that can elevate the games for everyone. So in that, I am sad.
Not for nothing Aaron, but if you think Dowsey was glad that VHS was failing, then you really don't know him that well.
Just a joke about his enthusiasm in that video, don’t worry :)
@@AaronDukeYT its honestly sad. this game could have been good.
At least we have TCM to look forward to. I can't wait to get my hands on that.
man and i never even had the chance to play it since i’m on console
It sucks tbf :(
I forgot about these games tbh
OH NO WE FORGOT TO MARKET OUR GAME
Why the fuck would i trust another friday the 13th game not to drop dead due to licensing?
I had so much fun playing the beta and i was looking forward to playing it during early access. It finally came to steam and my friend and I waited in a lobby for 15+ min for 1 game and got spanked within the first 2 min of the match. Not really fun. And periodically, i would check the amount of people were currently playing and it was like 100 something. Once I saw that, I knew it was dead.
Yeah it didn’t have a great launch into early access, and I think that’s largely because you just kinda forgot the game existed and had come back unless you were actively following it
I have almost 900 hours in the game and I'm really sad about VHS closing the doors. This was my main game, I have countless hours of content recorded and now it's all gone. What are we supposed to do after the game closes? I took a break after some of the VHS creators got targeted by mean spirited people trying to dox them, and then extended the break after the playerbase declined even more. I was hoping they would get a resurgence, put out advertisements and get some new players into it. I don't care about the money spent, I care about the potential this game had being wasted. The concept is amazing, the product is in my opinion great and it deserved more.
noooo i’m so sad about friday but i’ve been playing it a bunch ;(
Im really sad to see F13 go because i had so much fun just messing around on that game
A lot of people did I think!
VHS never even really got off the ground and it shot itself in the foot and it was their own fault that the game is shutting down.
the advertisement was the streamer, so yea a failure of marketing.
I dont care about VHS. But friday.... Its a shame its gonna end... Hope the next game of friday will be even more successfull
I was literally just waiting for VHS to hit consoles. Thats were they screwed up. Bad. Console makes up a lot of the player base. Hate that I wasted time waiting for them at all.
Personally, I am sad to see potential competition for DBD fail. Just to give behavior a reason to actually fix issues.
But I did not enjoy VHS myself... but that is due to personal limitations (hearing impaired) which made playing the monster role near impossible.. Hopefully TCM trades blows with DBD at least for a few years. Again to see behavior actually prioritize bugs and game play issues.
Im sad friday the 13th is ending, been playing it since the beginning, play it everday with the family, i think a lot of games would do better and survive if they put it to console, as a console player we dont have much multi-player online games that arent shooters
plot twist, VHS and Friday 13th end cos Friday 13th devs pass license on to VHS devs
Oh don’t, I don’t think that would be a good outcome 😂😂
VHS was miserable and unfun. 14 minute queue times so I can go down in two minutes and then spend 7 minutes floating around looking for Luma.
Yeah it’s a shame that it became that experience. When it first started, it was a lot different, and a whole lot more fun
I mean it isnt any different than behaviour shutting down Death Garden before coming back with DBD so maybe hellbent will end up with the same outcome.