@@ThunderFist1978 gameplay wise the SNES version IS better. It has all the normal attacks, and that by default makes it closer the arcade version. I pick that over bigger sprites TBH.
@@TheTrueBro Sega CD has all the attack animations restored and sprites that are larger than even Megadrive. A shame you lose background details, but for me, it was worth it just to lose that terrible zoom effect.
Some of these games were also released in PAL territories but are not listed as such. Like Samurai Shodown which was released in Europe, and Fatal Fury 2 which was not released in Europe BUT was released in Australia which also uses the PAL system and is compatible with ALL european consoles. I literally own both games for my PAL console here in Portugal.
I have a soft spot for Art of Fighting for the Genesis since it was one of the few fighting games we owned and one of the last gems we had for the system before we finally upgraded to the Nintendo 64.
Agreed 100% with this list and having Fatal Fury 2 at the top. Criminal how overlooked this port is and to me if you listen carefully, one of the best soundtracks on the system. Highly playable and up there in that top 5 vs Fighting games on the system.
With the exception of Street Smart and Super Baseball 2020, I have played all of these in the arcade. Neo Geo really was peek arcade games! I can't believe how close the latter ports were to the originals. Makes me almost regret not being a genesis kid ... almost! 😉
Just FYI, Street Smart is not a Neo Geo Game, it is just a SNK game developed for old arcade hardware, that detail could confuse some that are not familiar with Neo Geo games...
Nice comparison!... Glad we got these ports. Real Bout Fatal fury special is being ported to Genesis/MD now by Rheo gamer. Considering how damn good it looks, makes me wonder if these ports could have been much better.
The main thing holding the ports back from the 90s was the amount of rom space that developers/publishers wanted to purchase. The more megs a rom cart had, the lower the profit margins in most cases. If the Real Bout port is being developed with the same rom cart sizes from the 90s then great. If not, then it is not truly comparable. More frames of animation and better looking games become possible on older systems when rom sizes increase. Some of these retro devs even put custom chips on the carts themselves to increase processing beyond the main CPU. Sure, some SNES games had super fx chips, and some Konami games had custom chips on the NES carts, but retrofitting 2020s technology onto 30 year old systems is again, not a fair comparison of "what could have been possible in the 90s".
Some ports can be hit or miss. Compressing sprites, ditching a color pallet for performance. The Genesis/Mega Drive had some good hardware during its heyday.
King of the Monsters 2 is a more accurate port on the SNES. The side scrolling beat-em up mode was what set it apart from the first game. This is missing in the mega drive version. The mega drive version is reduced to a one-on-one fighting game.
You can do a lot of crazy combos in Fatal Fury 2 for the Mega Drive as it plays a bit different than the SNES and AES versions. There all solid conversions accept World Heroes which is pretty bad gameplay wise.
"But this could be a case where the Genesis hardware just couldn't do the game justice". This isn't really an excuse when you look at the console's other FG ports. It's clear that Midwest Studio didn't have knowledge of FG development, prioritizing the graphics being source-accurate over polishing the gameplay. It would definitely be higher placed if it was licensed to the dudes behind the Fatal Fury ports or even Sunsoft who did a real number on the SNES port.
The box art for Viewpoint must of confused a lot of people. A eye with a bullseye shooting a laser beam. They couldn't come up with a spaceship destroying things from the pilots perspective.
I played them also on snes and for me the neogeo versions are number one . I only not like the stick and gamepad. Then the snes is second . I love the kind of look with the colours and proportions of the snes sprites , i think they are looking more bright and nicer colours on snes , the sound is also more natural . And then megadrive , playable but something between snes and nes from feeling 😥 Just my opinion.
My father bought me this game when I was 12 as a birthday gift. One of the best birthday presents I ever received and in my top 5 mega drive games of all time
I was never impressed with the neo geo ports, to me they just highlighted that by that time the mega drive couldnt keep up with smaller sprites and no scalinng. Earlier it its life the mega drive was at the cutting edge and the mega drive was amazing at that time!
"The genesis hardware couldn't do the game justice" nah bro Genesis World Heroes just sucks. it was a rushed port done by an incompetent team. Of course it could've done the game justice if in the right hands, but unfortunately, that didn't happen
Me parece curioso que en el caso de fatal fury paso lo mismo que Mortal Kombat. El primer Mortal Kombat superó con creces al de super Nintendo sin censura ni nada, pero con Morral Kombat 2 fue al revés, el de super Nintendo superó al de SEGA, aquí el primer fatal fury es mejor en Sega que en super Nintendo, además respeto eso de que usaba dos planos el de enfrente y el de atrás, después todo se fue al carajo con fatal fury 2. El primer fatal fury de SNES no es malo de hecho es bueno pero no como el Sega y no tenía lo que dije que no manejaba los dos planos. Respecto a Samurai shadow, aquí si tengo que reconocer que su superó por mucho la versión de SNES, los Sprites todos chiquitos los de antes bien por allá 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣👎 mientras que el de Sega se ve lo más cercano al arcade posible, además creo que conserva la sangre. Siento pasar tan tarde estos días ha sido una locura y falta mañana. Si por casualidad este es tu último video del 2022, pues feliz año y agradecerte por tu contenido de calidad, empecé viéndote por Castlevania. Nota: año 2022 sigo esperando partidos de baseball con robots y estadios futurista anti gravedad :v 🤡🤡🤡🤡
I just don't agree with you telling samurai showdown has bad voices cause art of fighting is way worse. At least you should consider it to be fairly decent.
The best thing about Mega Drive’s ports is the caring with cut scenes. They look great.
Art of fighting is hands down one of the hardest fighting game to master
Art of Fighting 2 is ever worse lol.
SNK Boss syndrome went viral with every character.
The charging mechanic make it f*cking hard IMO.
Easier than the arcade
Street Smart isn’t a Neo-Geo title. That came out the year before the Neo-Geo hardware started being used.
Samurai showdown was a very good port of the SNK arcade fighter. By 1995 they were really good at programming for the mega drive
It's a shame so many moves were altered and no Earthquake. Better to play the Super Nintendo version.
@@madspunky You’re one the few people who I have heard say the SNES port is better. Usually people say the opposite.
@@ThunderFist1978 gameplay wise the SNES version IS better. It has all the normal attacks, and that by default makes it closer the arcade version.
I pick that over bigger sprites TBH.
@@TheTrueBro
Sega CD has all the attack animations restored and sprites that are larger than even Megadrive.
A shame you lose background details, but for me, it was worth it just to lose that terrible zoom effect.
@@juststatedtheobvious9633 yeah, the Sega CD version is the way to go
I really like game from 80-90s, its feels different. "Does there is anyone in the world play this game at the same time as me?"
Some of these games were also released in PAL territories but are not listed as such. Like Samurai Shodown which was released in Europe, and Fatal Fury 2 which was not released in Europe BUT was released in Australia which also uses the PAL system and is compatible with ALL european consoles. I literally own both games for my PAL console here in Portugal.
I have a soft spot for Art of Fighting for the Genesis since it was one of the few fighting games we owned and one of the last gems we had for the system before we finally upgraded to the Nintendo 64.
Agreed 100% with this list and having Fatal Fury 2 at the top.
Criminal how overlooked this port is and to me if you listen carefully, one of the best soundtracks on the system. Highly playable and up there in that top 5 vs Fighting games on the system.
Fatal Fury 2 is even better than the original i dare say. The speed and response of the commands is even higher when you put them in comparison
With the exception of Street Smart and Super Baseball 2020, I have played all of these in the arcade. Neo Geo really was peek arcade games!
I can't believe how close the latter ports were to the originals. Makes me almost regret not being a genesis kid ... almost! 😉
I think best gamer way is Nes -> SNES -> PS1 -> PS2 -> XBOX360 in 2009-2010 -> ps3 in 2012-13 -> PS4)
Just FYI, Street Smart is not a Neo Geo Game, it is just a SNK game developed for old arcade hardware, that detail could confuse some that are not familiar with Neo Geo games...
Fatal Fury 2 on MD is really good 🕹👍
2:50 Small nitpick: It's actually 16 MegaBITS which is just 2 Megabytes. Anyway, I've always enjoyed your videos about ports!
Can you do the same with the Neo Geo ports to the SNES please?
Too bad that the Sega Genesis doesn’t have Fatal Fury 3 in their library.
Nice comparison!... Glad we got these ports. Real Bout Fatal fury special is being ported to Genesis/MD now by Rheo gamer. Considering how damn good it looks, makes me wonder if these ports could have been much better.
The main thing holding the ports back from the 90s was the amount of rom space that developers/publishers wanted to purchase. The more megs a rom cart had, the lower the profit margins in most cases. If the Real Bout port is being developed with the same rom cart sizes from the 90s then great. If not, then it is not truly comparable. More frames of animation and better looking games become possible on older systems when rom sizes increase. Some of these retro devs even put custom chips on the carts themselves to increase processing beyond the main CPU. Sure, some SNES games had super fx chips, and some Konami games had custom chips on the NES carts, but retrofitting 2020s technology onto 30 year old systems is again, not a fair comparison of "what could have been possible in the 90s".
KoM, Fatal Fury 1 and 2, Samurai and Super Baseball had Pal version too.
Todos ellos ports excelentes teniendo en cuenta la diferencia de potencia.
Mi favorito el Samurai shodown, la de horas q le metí.
Fatal Fury Special on Mega-CD is very good 👍👍👍
Make same for SNES. Let's greatest console wars continue.
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Some ports can be hit or miss. Compressing sprites, ditching a color pallet for performance. The Genesis/Mega Drive had some good hardware during its heyday.
King of the Monsters 2 is a more accurate port on the SNES. The side scrolling beat-em up mode was what set it apart from the first game. This is missing in the mega drive version. The mega drive version is reduced to a one-on-one fighting game.
Well, in 2020 there wasn't a normal season of any sport at all. Nobody saw that in the 90s
Street Smart was not on the Neo Geo, but before. Different system…
Great video! Ok, same for SNES!
You can do a lot of crazy combos in Fatal Fury 2 for the Mega Drive as it plays a bit different than the SNES and AES versions.
There all solid conversions accept World Heroes which is pretty bad gameplay wise.
Excelente
Some SNK staff worked on the MD port of Art of Fighting.
Terry from RB2 : "Hoop da woop, I'm in pink"
"But this could be a case where the Genesis hardware just couldn't do the game justice".
This isn't really an excuse when you look at the console's other FG ports. It's clear that Midwest Studio didn't have knowledge of FG development, prioritizing the graphics being source-accurate over polishing the gameplay. It would definitely be higher placed if it was licensed to the dudes behind the Fatal Fury ports or even Sunsoft who did a real number on the SNES port.
1:56 you're right! it does have poor sound.
So I just came upon a hypothesis. Mr.karate aka takuma sakazaki…is karate man from street smart before art of fighting series.
That World Heroes looked like it was running 3fps
The box art for Viewpoint must of confused a lot of people. A eye with a bullseye shooting a laser beam. They couldn't come up with a spaceship destroying things from the pilots perspective.
I like how the company who ported StreetSmart to the Genesis is called Treco, and Treco in portuguese means trash
Yo me compré el samurai shodow
Para mega Drive y fue una bestia,,,que disfrute y saqué el jugo 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
I am missing Art of Fighting and both Fatal Furys on my collection
can you do a neo geo on snes video next?
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I played them also on snes and for me the neogeo versions are number one . I only not like the stick and gamepad.
Then the snes is second . I love the kind of look with the colours and proportions of the snes sprites , i think they are looking more bright and nicer colours on snes , the sound is also more natural .
And then megadrive , playable but something between snes and nes from feeling 😥
Just my opinion.
The worst of the lot has to be both World Heroes & King Of The Monsters 2.
"Fatal Fury 2" was my favorite MD fighting game when I was a kid. Ironically, it was also the one I sucked at the most.
My father bought me this game when I was 12 as a birthday gift. One of the best birthday presents I ever received and in my top 5 mega drive games of all time
King of the Monsters 2 is so much better than the first one. The port on the Mega Drive is smooth as well.
I was never impressed with the neo geo ports, to me they just highlighted that by that time the mega drive couldnt keep up with smaller sprites and no scalinng. Earlier it its life the mega drive was at the cutting edge and the mega drive was amazing at that time!
A todos los personajes solo les faltó un 27% más grandes y listo
FF2 MD is even better than the original in terms of gameplay.
Umm STREET SMART wasn't an NEOGEO game. It was an old SNK stand alone arcade title like Ikari Warriors or P.O.W.
Bruh KotM on the Genesis was great, somebody must've gotten their ass taken by Beetlemania a few times too many.
FATAL FURY 2 SEGA 🤗✨🎮
Street Smart is not from a Neo-Geo arcade or MVS.
art of fighting on genesis is 16 MEGABIT. NOT 16 Megabytes. 16 Megabytes would make it a 128MBIT. That would rival the neogeo version at 102MBIT.
"The genesis hardware couldn't do the game justice"
nah bro Genesis World Heroes just sucks. it was a rushed port done by an incompetent team. Of course it could've done the game justice if in the right hands, but unfortunately, that didn't happen
Me parece curioso que en el caso de fatal fury paso lo mismo que Mortal Kombat. El primer Mortal Kombat superó con creces al de super Nintendo sin censura ni nada, pero con Morral Kombat 2 fue al revés, el de super Nintendo superó al de SEGA, aquí el primer fatal fury es mejor en Sega que en super Nintendo, además respeto eso de que usaba dos planos el de enfrente y el de atrás, después todo se fue al carajo con fatal fury 2. El primer fatal fury de SNES no es malo de hecho es bueno pero no como el Sega y no tenía lo que dije que no manejaba los dos planos.
Respecto a Samurai shadow, aquí si tengo que reconocer que su superó por mucho la versión de SNES, los Sprites todos chiquitos los de antes bien por allá 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣👎 mientras que el de Sega se ve lo más cercano al arcade posible, además creo que conserva la sangre.
Siento pasar tan tarde estos días ha sido una locura y falta mañana.
Si por casualidad este es tu último video del 2022, pues feliz año y agradecerte por tu contenido de calidad, empecé viéndote por Castlevania.
Nota: año 2022 sigo esperando partidos de baseball con robots y estadios futurista anti gravedad :v 🤡🤡🤡🤡
But but but....... What about fatal fury special for genesis? There's none? Oh well 🤣.
I just don't agree with you telling samurai showdown has bad voices cause art of fighting is way worse. At least you should consider it to be fairly decent.
Street Smart wasn't a Neo Geo game though.
Street Smart isn't a Neo Geo game.
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Street Smart is NOT a NeoGeo game
Street Smart is NOT a NEO•GEO game.
Street Smart isnt a Neo Geo game