For those in Victoria the rules are 50mm above factory spec with a +/- tolerance of 25mm. This means your car can physically measure 75mm over spec and just be ok. A traditional two inch lift with the weight of extras (bull bar, winch, second battery etc) will still physically measure about 50mm above spec. In regards to the tyres, a 285 will be the other 25mm
Been searching around the last week for lift/tyre info for n80 and your vid makes the most sense by far! Not sure why there’s so many questions in the comments, I’ll be hitting my mechanic up for caster adjustment tomorrow Cheers 👍🏻
Thanks for the info, I am actually looking at going 285s on my 2wd, yeah I know lol. But the reason I want to do this is my Hilux makes 330hp and 1100nm on dyno, I currently have 235/60R16s and it will light the tyres up in 2nd gear no worries. I also need longer gearing, with such short gearing I can't get my big turbo spooled up in 1st and in 2nd I still can't get full boost. I hit 40psi of boost in 3rd. I don't need to go as high as 31.6" like the 285/65R17 gives but it's hard to get a 285mm wide tyre that isn't super tall. ~30" would probably be spot on for me. There is also no such thing as a taller diff gear for a hilux, I have been asking around for years. I also need longer gearing as my hilux runs out of gears at about 160km/h and I can hit 160km/h before I even finish overtaking a truck even pulling out in top gear. I definitely wouldn't be worried about tall gearing taking power away, it's so easy to make good power out of a diesel hilux. Just take it to Just Autos on the Sunshine coast (I drove my hilux there from Tasmania), get a stage 3 gturbo, +30% injectors, front mount, clutch and a tune and that's easily 260 to 280hp over the stock 115hp. My hilux has a built motor, stronger pistons etc and a larger diesel pump. Just Autos have a 2wd diesel 3L hilux that makes 500hp on 60psi of boost.
A tip for fitment: put the car on jack stands, take out your strut, put the tire back on and put a jack under the wheel to simulate tuck. Also go full lock both was under compression
Hey mate Awsome video. Straight forward and clear understanding. This video helped me decided to not lift befor getting 285’s on my hilux. I have since had 285’s installed and had no dramas expect abit of guard rub at the rear of the wheel arch about 20 mm. As your video demonstrates a grinder fixed this with abit of paint touch up.
Awesome video man, I have been having same problem as you spoke of, info scattered everywhere in bit's and pieces, this was exactly what I was looking for, only difference is I will probably go down the line of UCA's (I like the squared superior engineering ones), cheers mate.
Didn’t know it was that difficult to fit 33s on the n70 hilux I recently fit them to an n60 all I dad was sus lift and a one inch body lift and the fit with a little bit of panel correction
Great video! Could you tell me the width of the flares where it meets at the bottom of the door? Considering buying a set but my brush-bars don’t have much room for clearance
Or..... cut inner rear of the flare out and hammer pinch weld flat then re fibre glass and paint, and trim the bodymount back as far as you require and re weld a plate onto it and trim up bullbar by a few inches and presto can fit any 33" tyre on the old luxys
slow & sooty yeah that would be the ideal way to do it and a better solution if you want to remove sway bars as well and get maximum flex but this works if you don’t want to cut the body mount
Hey mate, love the videos. So good to finally get a clear answer on it all. I have had the same trouble with finding all the information needed in the same place, all the things I found at the time all recommended 3" lift and diff drops etc. I ended up just running 265's but would love to go bigger. So going off your videos, you had fitted the tyres first before installing the uca's. Ive looked at aftermarket uca's and seen that they have castor correction, this may be a silly question but does the correction counteract the original adjustment that you get the tyre shop to do at the start and does that cause any rubbing on the body mounts once in?
Thanks for watching mate, aftermarket ucas will need another wheel alignment and yes it will most likely cause rubbing on the body mount depending on your offset. so you’ll probably need to do a body mount chop.
Thanks for the video mate. I’m about to lift mine another 25mm to take up the sag from 10yrs. I’m only running 265’s but this was a helpful reminder of what everything does. What have you got in the rear?
I've got RG leaves and 170mm shackles with fox shocks currently but I need to change to the 210mm shackles and get +2" RG leaves to get it to work better
Hey mate awesome video but still abit confused have ya done any body mount chop. does the 285 scrape at all ? I’ve got a n80 stock tryna build it up. Thanks mate
Hi I've just put 285/75/16 mud tyres on my 2inch lifted hilux and am having some rubbing issues im going to call a few places tomorrow to organise the caster to be moved as far forward as possible. What upper control arms do you recoment or will any after market ones do the trick? Thanks heaps
Hey mate, thanks for the clear information provided in this video. I currently have a 2.5 inch lift on my hilux with bigger ucas as i had to do gvm upgrade. Question is with doing the body mount chop and using the plates from psr, is there enough clearance to run 295s? Thanking you and hope to hear from you soon.. Cheers
Hey mate that would depend on your rim offset and also actual tire sizes differ between brands it’s hard to know exactly but 295 vs 285 there’s only 10mm difference in width so it’s possible
Hi mate, Great video, been enjoying your channel. Just wanted to clarify, did you say these 285’s should fit regardless of a lift kit? From what I could gather then is it just a case of castor adjustment, aftermarket UCA’s and some trimming? Btw, what brand tyres and UCA’s did you go for?
hey mate, yeah the 285's should fit with a little bit of cutting and caster adjustment. ideally you'll want to do a body mount chop to get the most from it as well. Aftermarket UCA's will make it drive better and allow slightly better down travel. I have "Blackhawk" UCA's which I'm pretty sure are made by Roadsafe and I've had no issues at all with them. My tyres are 285/75R16 and they are Nitto Terra grapplers on 0 offset rims.
Concise and clear. Been looking for this info for a while now. All I have is testimonies which require massive mods to the vehicle. How does it influence the power and fuel consumption with the larger Tyres?
It hasn’t really affected the fuel consumption too much maybe slightly worse now but not super noticeable for me. power did take a big hit especially when moving off from a stop it’s super slow and 1st gear does feel a bit too tall now. Overall it’s still fine to drive though but I’m definitely looking into either a tune to help with power or re gearing to fix the ratios up
So did you do a body mount chop on a 285? how about a 295 70r17? is body mount chop sufficient on a 2 inch lift or would you recon getting a 1 1/2 body lift?
Hey mate. wanting to go from 265 to 285 but wanted to see did you notice a difference in the fuel economy, decrease in power any other general wear and tear? Cheers
I went from factory size straight to 285's so yeah I noticed a huge difference in power loss and a small decrease in fuel economy. It still easily gets to 110km/h but it's just a bit slower off the mark now so no huge issue and only lost about 20-30 km's per tank roughly. Your doing a smaller jump up than that though so shouldn't be as noticeable for you.
I run 0 offset, more positive offset would make the tyre closer to the UCA and more negative offset would space it out further. I find 0 to be perfect because it has some clearance between the tire and also my tyres don’t poke outside the flares but I do have wider flares than factory (I have 60mm) so take that into consideration if you are choosing
Good vid bud. Anyone out here know if 265/65 R 18 can fit on the newer Hilux? I'm wanting to run stock suspension but worried about rubbing..and if there is a rubbing quick fix? really also want to avoid castor adjustments if possible
still super confused as ive gathered so much different info. ive been told to get atleast -12offset with body mount chop to run 285/75r16 i already have 16x8 0p rims in the shed. I have factory flares so im guessing 285s will poke out abit so thinking of going 275
Probably a bit late, but I have 285's on 16x8, 0 offset and factory SR5 flares, the tread itself is just under the flare, but the sidewall bulges out past it, not as much poke as most Ranger drivers run, and doesn't seem to get unwanted attention.
Great vid mate just a question on the caster if you adjust it all the way forward as possible and run 0 offset you don’t need to change upper control arms ?
jake fleay yeah mate it’s possible but you lose things like return to centre and you get increased bump steer, it just handles pretty bad in general that’s all
The rims are circle hole “Sunraysia” style rims, there’s a few different brands that make them all about the same price. And the tyres are nitro terra grapplers
Hey mate my speedo reads wrong it’s about 10/12 k’s under what it should be so whatever it says rpm at 90kmh is on a regular speedo is what mine is at 100
How is the caster adjusted? I’ve got Fox suspension 3” lift and the VMN UCAs but my garage said they cant adjust the caster more forward. I’ve just ordered the plates to cut and weld the body mount anyway but was hoping not to cut it. Neil
Neiiil hey Neil, depending on which ucas you have they are adjusted differently. some already have built in caster correction and some are adjustable, I see you said you have VMN ucas but I believe they sell a fixed type (Blackhawk branded) and an adjustable type where you can adjust caster by the top ball joint position. It’s possible they have already adjusted it as far forward as possible. If you running large tyres or a negative offset doing the body mount chop will be your best bet, there are places that do it if your not keen on cutting it yourself too.
Hey man awesome video! Just quick question. Right now I have 70mm flares the I bought from kutsnakes. So for the rims do you think positive 10 will do the job with 265 or 275tyre?Cheers
Mine are 0 offset and my flares are 60mm and sits almost flush with the flare. So from that I think Positive 10 would be about 20mm inside the flare since your flares are 10mm wider than mine and pos 10 offset would mean your wheel sits another 10mm in
Same things happening in my car hilux got 285 on on 17 inch rim it was ok before i took for wheel alignment now everytime i do full turn specially when under compression it rubs so bad on the back to flares how to fix it move caster forward or need small tyre or smaller rim ? It has got 2 inch lift on Thanks man. Plz any suggestions
Rim size won’t change anything because the overall diameter will still be the same, you could move your caster forward but it might still rub in which case you’d need to cut some plastic out from the flare, ideally you’d need to do a body mount chop as well to have 0 scrub. If you don’t want to do that then smaller tyres would be your answer
@@RyvalCreative thanks for ur help could u give any idea if moving the caster forward it will affect the tyre wear or or anything it might reduce the rubbing alot bcz before ot was not rubbing only after aligning and if go smaller tyre what size would be ok for it thanks.
Hey mate do you think there would be any scrubbing/issues on my N80 with 285/75/r16 0 offset with a 2 inch lift, body mount chop, some cutting of the guards and caster adjustment but no after market UCAs?
Mate I just got a hilux. I can’t for the life of me figure out how to get the hub caps off. I have the same as yours. Are they screw on, push or bolted ? It’s doing my head in
Did you keep your engine stock power? Or have you had an ECU remap to supply more power? I've heard stories that after fitting bigger tyres like this some drivers found the power lost. Have you notice at all any difference in power lost? Like acceleration was decrease?
hey mate awesome video, I have a 2012 sr that's stock standard atm, thinking of putting bigger tyres on 16s, just didn't know what the biggest size would fit without a lift? Ideally I'd want 32s with a 2in lift but for now I dont think the 32s will fit without a lift
Zak Ulrich lift won’t matter because when the suspension articulates it will go lower than stock height anyway. Biggest you can fit without cutting is a 31 and you’ll probably just have to remove the mudguards or they will rub a bit
Hey man, I'm currently running 265/75r/16 on a pos 20 rims, 2.5inch lift with superior ucas. So going off you're vid I should be okay with fitting 285/75/16s on 0 offset? Gonna go nitto Mts on 0 offset. Just want some clarification before I dish out 1900 haha. Cheers
Yeah that’s what I’m running currently, you will have to cut a little bit out and might get some scrub if you don’t want to do the body mount chop but apart from that should work all good
What suspension setup would you recommend, I don’t mind mixing and matching, the end goal is something that doesn’t rub. What are the most idle uca to run for adjustments?
Really depends on a few things mate like how much you want to modify and how much you want to spend and if you want to keep it legal etc. The thing is that suspension won't affect if it rubs or not because when your suspension compresses the height goes back to factory height if not lower, so you'd want your wheels to fit and turn etc. without rubbing before you get your lift installed.hitting
Neg 44 means a really deep dish externally so they would clear the brakes better if anything, the rim size would be more of an issue rather than offset
mate, i have a 2014 hilux sr 5, i have stock alloy 17 rims, my tyer size is 265\65\ 17. i wanted to install 285\70\ 17s, can i get away with using my stock 17 toyota rims, or must i change the rim? im not certain what offset the standard rims are, maybe 0 offset, taking a guess, but i dont want to install any steelies, thats why i want to keep my stock 17s and just throw on the 285s, another question, i need a 2 inch lift kit to run the 285s, right?
Hi mate, thanks for watching. As far as I know the 17 inch rims you have are positive 30 offset which means it will be very difficult for you to fit them without a lot of cutting in the inner guard and I think you may even have issues with the tyres scrubbing your upper control arms, If you want to keep your current rims maybe just go for some 31" inch tyres as this will be slightly bigger than what you have now and wont require much if anything to fit. As for the lift you don't need any lift to fit the tyres, if you end up going 285's or smaller you just need to remove some of your bumper of bullbar where the tyre will hit and remove your front mudflaps as well, you also might need to either adjust your caster forwards or do a bodymount chop. Hope that helps .
I did the body mount chop in a later video, at this time it wasn’t done. I have 2” sus and 2” body lift. The suspension lift won’t help you fit bigger tyres because when the suspension compresses it goes back down to factory height anyway
@@RyvalCreative I don't get this argument , however see that a lot. My understanding of the situation. - you do the lift by installing longer shock absorber strut. It is popular in Russia to use stock Tundra shocks for this. You get about 2 inch lift with them. By this you have your UCAs and LCAs declined down. You indeed have more travel to go up in this case than stock. And at full compression the wheel will be touching on top. BUT you may lower your bump stop for compression by an inch and this way you will get up travel from neutral position about the same range as stock and prevent UCAs from going all the way up and the wheel rubbing on top
Yes you will be starting from a more extended position due to the longer shock absorbers but when uptravel occurs from compression of the suspension the tire will end up back to its factory position if not even further compressed. Even if you extend the bump stop the tire will still be able to travel far enough upwards that it would make any suspension lift useless as a method of reducing tire scrub.
@@RyvalCreative I still don't agree :). To get tyre rubbing with the lift you MUST compress the spring more than typical value. Basically if you have 2 inch lift and 1 inch increase in tyre radius (33 instead of 31s) you will have to get the spring 1 inch even shorter than stock length at full compression to get to rubbing . You cannot do that since the weight of the vehicle is still the same. There will be no force to compress the spring that much. Besides even if you manage to compress it even further I would suspect that coils will start touching each over.
When I got my hilux, it came with the option of coming with 30.6 inch tires from the dealer. So if I wanted to run 285/75/16 (32.8 inch) on a 2 inch lift, that would be .2 of an inch tire increase (5mm). So the overall tire lift would be 2.5 mil over the legal tire lift (25mm) but I suspect that the lift kit will sag a couple mil, so would the ride height be legal meaning I wouldn't have to get a mod plate?
They probably wouldn’t actually measure hub to guard they would likely just look at the tyre size written on the tyre and defect you because it’s too big regardless of what size lift you have. That being said it’s unlikely and you’d probably have to get a copper who’s having a bad day to sting you for it or be doing something wrong in the first place to get pulled over.
They likely would never check and even if they did, they would have to deem that an accident was caused by your tyres being too big in order for them not cover you
@@RyvalCreative IS it annoying because im choosing between an arb snorkel and a stainless steel one and if the sound is that annoying i might just go with arb
matthew abraham depends on your personal preference really mate, I personally like it but obviously not for everyone. I’d say try and get a ride in someone’s car that has one and see what you think
Hey mate yeah it does make it very gutless, I would eventually like to do the diff ratios but it’s like 4/5k if you do lockers as well so can’t really justify it at the moment!
Mark Morillo anything is possible, I’ve seen people do it but requires a lot of cutting as well as the right suspension setup to get it to work properly
Pretty noticeable difference, definitely doesn’t take off as easy and towing is pretty bad now. I want to regear in the future to correct the ratios. I pretty much don’t use 5th now either it comfortably does 110 in 4th
For those in Victoria the rules are 50mm above factory spec with a +/- tolerance of 25mm. This means your car can physically measure 75mm over spec and just be ok.
A traditional two inch lift with the weight of extras (bull bar, winch, second battery etc) will still physically measure about 50mm above spec. In regards to the tyres, a 285 will be the other 25mm
Been searching around the last week for lift/tyre info for n80 and your vid makes the most sense by far! Not sure why there’s so many questions in the comments, I’ll be hitting my mechanic up for caster adjustment tomorrow
Cheers 👍🏻
Thanks for the info, I am actually looking at going 285s on my 2wd, yeah I know lol. But the reason I want to do this is my Hilux makes 330hp and 1100nm on dyno, I currently have 235/60R16s and it will light the tyres up in 2nd gear no worries. I also need longer gearing, with such short gearing I can't get my big turbo spooled up in 1st and in 2nd I still can't get full boost. I hit 40psi of boost in 3rd. I don't need to go as high as 31.6" like the 285/65R17 gives but it's hard to get a 285mm wide tyre that isn't super tall. ~30" would probably be spot on for me. There is also no such thing as a taller diff gear for a hilux, I have been asking around for years. I also need longer gearing as my hilux runs out of gears at about 160km/h and I can hit 160km/h before I even finish overtaking a truck even pulling out in top gear.
I definitely wouldn't be worried about tall gearing taking power away, it's so easy to make good power out of a diesel hilux. Just take it to Just Autos on the Sunshine coast (I drove my hilux there from Tasmania), get a stage 3 gturbo, +30% injectors, front mount, clutch and a tune and that's easily 260 to 280hp over the stock 115hp. My hilux has a built motor, stronger pistons etc and a larger diesel pump. Just Autos have a 2wd diesel 3L hilux that makes 500hp on 60psi of boost.
A tip for fitment: put the car on jack stands, take out your strut, put the tire back on and put a jack under the wheel to simulate tuck. Also go full lock both was under compression
Hey mate Awsome video. Straight forward and clear understanding. This video helped me decided to not lift befor getting 285’s on my hilux. I have since had 285’s installed and had no dramas expect abit of guard rub at the rear of the wheel arch about 20 mm. As your video demonstrates a grinder fixed this with abit of paint touch up.
Hey mate
Got 33 on both of my huilx.
Done my own chops and got adjustable UCA. Speedo about 3-5km out (faster) good info for those in the know
Thanks for the info! 🍻
Thanks for this mate. This was a great help.
Awesome video man, I have been having same problem as you spoke of, info scattered everywhere in bit's and pieces, this was exactly what I was looking for, only difference is I will probably go down the line of UCA's (I like the squared superior engineering ones), cheers mate.
Sweet, glad you got something out of it. Good to hear
Great knowledge and explanation bud. Would love to contribute if you do more vids. As you said. Info is everywhere.
Wish you were my friend to help me with my hilux lol
Didn’t know it was that difficult to fit 33s on the n70 hilux I recently fit them to an n60 all I dad was sus lift and a one inch body lift and the fit with a little bit of panel correction
Ben Howson yeah always seems easier on the older cars but nothing is impossible if you have the right tools
Great video! Could you tell me the width of the flares where it meets at the bottom of the door? Considering buying a set but my brush-bars don’t have much room for clearance
Brilliant Info !
hey, just wondering if you need to chop body mount still or does moving the castor all the way forward mean you dont have to
Or..... cut inner rear of the flare out and hammer pinch weld flat then re fibre glass and paint, and trim the bodymount back as far as you require and re weld a plate onto it and trim up bullbar by a few inches and presto can fit any 33" tyre on the old luxys
slow & sooty yeah that would be the ideal way to do it and a better solution if you want to remove sway bars as well and get maximum flex but this works if you don’t want to cut the body mount
Very informative vid. Well done and thanks for the info.
Hey mate, love the videos. So good to finally get a clear answer on it all. I have had the same trouble with finding all the information needed in the same place, all the things I found at the time all recommended 3" lift and diff drops etc. I ended up just running 265's but would love to go bigger.
So going off your videos, you had fitted the tyres first before installing the uca's.
Ive looked at aftermarket uca's and seen that they have castor correction, this may be a silly question but does the correction counteract the original adjustment that you get the tyre shop to do at the start and does that cause any rubbing on the body mounts once in?
Thanks for watching mate, aftermarket ucas will need another wheel alignment and yes it will most likely cause rubbing on the body mount depending on your offset. so you’ll probably need to do a body mount chop.
I got 33s 12.5s on my lux with just a 2inch lift in front 0 offset rubs on full lock
did you have to do any chopping to fit it?
Top video! Everything you need to know in one video 🤙🏿
Love the vids and all the info from em but I’ve got a 2wd and 285s fit with only spacers must be abit different wheel placement
Thanks for the video mate. I’m about to lift mine another 25mm to take up the sag from 10yrs. I’m only running 265’s but this was a helpful reminder of what everything does.
What have you got in the rear?
I've got RG leaves and 170mm shackles with fox shocks currently but I need to change to the 210mm shackles and get +2" RG leaves to get it to work better
thank you for sharing
will a 285/75/17 fit on my hilux vigo (currently on a 2 inch ironman suspension lift) without a bullbar?
Hey mate awesome video but still abit confused have ya done any body mount chop. does the 285 scrape at all ? I’ve got a n80 stock tryna build it up. Thanks mate
Hi I've just put 285/75/16 mud tyres on my 2inch lifted hilux and am having some rubbing issues im going to call a few places tomorrow to organise the caster to be moved as far forward as possible. What upper control arms do you recoment or will any after market ones do the trick? Thanks heaps
what suspension is the on the car?
Thanks bro
Nice bro..
Hey mate, thanks for the clear information provided in this video.
I currently have a 2.5 inch lift on my hilux with bigger ucas as i had to do gvm upgrade. Question is with doing the body mount chop and using the plates from psr, is there enough clearance to run 295s? Thanking you and hope to hear from you soon..
Cheers
Hey mate that would depend on your rim offset and also actual tire sizes differ between brands it’s hard to know exactly but 295 vs 285 there’s only 10mm difference in width so it’s possible
Hi mate,
Great video, been enjoying your channel. Just wanted to clarify, did you say these 285’s should fit regardless of a lift kit? From what I could gather then is it just a case of castor adjustment, aftermarket UCA’s and some trimming? Btw, what brand tyres and UCA’s did you go for?
hey mate, yeah the 285's should fit with a little bit of cutting and caster adjustment. ideally you'll want to do a body mount chop to get the most from it as well. Aftermarket UCA's will make it drive better and allow slightly better down travel. I have "Blackhawk" UCA's which I'm pretty sure are made by Roadsafe and I've had no issues at all with them. My tyres are 285/75R16 and they are Nitto Terra grapplers on 0 offset rims.
Ryval Creative thanks for the reply mate, much appreciated!! 🤙
Concise and clear. Been looking for this info for a while now. All I have is testimonies which require massive mods to the vehicle.
How does it influence the power and fuel consumption with the larger Tyres?
It hasn’t really affected the fuel consumption too much maybe slightly worse now but not super noticeable for me. power did take a big hit especially when moving off from a stop it’s super slow and 1st gear does feel a bit too tall now. Overall it’s still fine to drive though but I’m definitely looking into either a tune to help with power or re gearing to fix the ratios up
@@RyvalCreative en mi hilux 3.0 con llantas 33 antes en primera marcha me daba 45km y ahora 25-30km, revoluciona pero no agarra velocidad
So did you do a body mount chop on a 285? how about a 295 70r17? is body mount chop sufficient on a 2 inch lift or would you recon getting a 1 1/2 body lift?
Hey mate. wanting to go from 265 to 285 but wanted to see did you notice a difference in the fuel economy, decrease in power any other general wear and tear? Cheers
I went from factory size straight to 285's so yeah I noticed a huge difference in power loss and a small decrease in fuel economy. It still easily gets to 110km/h but it's just a bit slower off the mark now so no huge issue and only lost about 20-30 km's per tank roughly. Your doing a smaller jump up than that though so shouldn't be as noticeable for you.
Hey mate, very good advice in your video appreciate it! was just wondering what the best offset is to run to get 285’s off the UCA’s
I run 0 offset, more positive offset would make the tyre closer to the UCA and more negative offset would space it out further. I find 0 to be perfect because it has some clearance between the tire and also my tyres don’t poke outside the flares but I do have wider flares than factory (I have 60mm) so take that into consideration if you are choosing
Hey ryan, loving the vids, just wondering what guages you have fitted on your car?
Thanks
Hey mate they are autotechnica digital gauges but honestly I would not recommend them. Spend the money and go vdo or redarc these are not good at all.
I have boost pressure, water temp, exhaust temp and battery gauge
Good vid bud. Anyone out here know if 265/65 R 18 can fit on the newer Hilux? I'm wanting to run stock suspension but worried about rubbing..and if there is a rubbing quick fix? really also want to avoid castor adjustments if possible
hey did you do an undercoat/rust proofing? what product did u use? thx good vid
No I haven't done any kind of rust proofing, I just clean it very well after going through any mud or sand.
still super confused as ive gathered so much different info. ive been told to get atleast -12offset with body mount chop to run 285/75r16
i already have 16x8 0p rims in the shed. I have factory flares so im guessing 285s will poke out abit so thinking of going 275
Probably a bit late, but I have 285's on 16x8, 0 offset and factory SR5 flares, the tread itself is just under the flare, but the sidewall bulges out past it, not as much poke as most Ranger drivers run, and doesn't seem to get unwanted attention.
What are the three displays right to your steering wheel on the front column?!
Ondra Rafaj tip is a battery monitor, second is boost + EGT gauge and the bottom is Water temp + Oil pressure
Great vid mate just a question on the caster if you adjust it all the way forward as possible and run 0 offset you don’t need to change upper control arms ?
jake fleay yeah mate it’s possible but you lose things like return to centre and you get increased bump steer, it just handles pretty bad in general that’s all
Hey man, wicked video !! What rock sliders are you running ? I have a space cab and struggling to find some. Cheers !!!!
Nick Diaz they are Phat bars angled rock sliders mate. Pretty expensive but solid as and they make them specifically for the extra cabs
Absolute legend for this! Cheers!
Would something like a 275 tire require less work/cutting to fit
Yep would be a bit easier to fit but still would require some cutting to avoid scrub
Great video, wondering what the brand and name of your rims and tires are, looking into getting a set like that
The rims are circle hole “Sunraysia” style rims, there’s a few different brands that make them all about the same price. And the tyres are nitro terra grapplers
Hey mate thanks for all the info, was just wondering what you rpm is at 100kms?
Hey mate my speedo reads wrong it’s about 10/12 k’s under what it should be so whatever it says rpm at 90kmh is on a regular speedo is what mine is at 100
How is the caster adjusted? I’ve got Fox suspension 3” lift and the VMN UCAs but my garage said they cant adjust the caster more forward. I’ve just ordered the plates to cut and weld the body mount anyway but was hoping not to cut it. Neil
Neiiil hey Neil, depending on which ucas you have they are adjusted differently. some already have built in caster correction and some are adjustable, I see you said you have VMN ucas but I believe they sell a fixed type (Blackhawk branded) and an adjustable type where you can adjust caster by the top ball joint position. It’s possible they have already adjusted it as far forward as possible. If you running large tyres or a negative offset doing the body mount chop will be your best bet, there are places that do it if your not keen on cutting it yourself too.
I’ve got 285x70x17 still touching without moving tyres forward 😂😂 Andy advice?
Might be time for a body mount chop then unfortunately theres not many other options besides changing offsets or going down in size.
i got 35s did body mount chop and caster is forward...still rubbing...any solutions ?
Could try after market UCA’s if you don’t have them already but to be honest I only know how to get 33”s working not 35”s !
Hey man awesome video! Just quick question. Right now I have 70mm flares the I bought from kutsnakes. So for the rims do you think positive 10 will do the job with 265 or 275tyre?Cheers
Mine are 0 offset and my flares are 60mm and sits almost flush with the flare. So from that I think Positive 10 would be about 20mm inside the flare since your flares are 10mm wider than mine and pos 10 offset would mean your wheel sits another 10mm in
Same things happening in my car hilux got 285 on on 17 inch rim it was ok before i took for wheel alignment now everytime i do full turn specially when under compression it rubs so bad on the back to flares how to fix it move caster forward or need small tyre or smaller rim ? It has got 2 inch lift on
Thanks man. Plz any suggestions
Rim size won’t change anything because the overall diameter will still be the same, you could move your caster forward but it might still rub in which case you’d need to cut some plastic out from the flare, ideally you’d need to do a body mount chop as well to have 0 scrub.
If you don’t want to do that then smaller tyres would be your answer
@@RyvalCreative thanks for ur help could u give any idea if moving the caster forward it will affect the tyre wear or or anything it might reduce the rubbing alot bcz before ot was not rubbing only after aligning and if go smaller tyre what size would be ok for it thanks.
Hey mate do you think there would be any scrubbing/issues on my N80 with 285/75/r16 0 offset with a 2 inch lift, body mount chop, some cutting of the guards and caster adjustment but no after market UCAs?
Howd you go mate?
Mate I just got a hilux. I can’t for the life of me figure out how to get the hub caps off. I have the same as yours. Are they screw on, push or bolted ? It’s doing my head in
I don’t have any hub caps now but from memory they are clip in and you need a screw driver or small pry bar to lever the little clip out
What is your rim width? I understand the 0 offset but wider or skinnier rims would change what 0 offset is.
Pretty sure they are 8” wide rims
How did you fit your spare with exhaust in the way
Did you keep your engine stock power? Or have you had an ECU remap to supply more power? I've heard stories that after fitting bigger tyres like this some drivers found the power lost. Have you notice at all any difference in power lost? Like acceleration was decrease?
Yeah definitely more sluggish now but I haven’t done anything to increase power, I don’t really mind it still goes fast enough for me
@@RyvalCreative thinking of just doing a 3 inch dobinsons and running these size tyres on my 17s
hey mate awesome video, I have a 2012 sr that's stock standard atm, thinking of putting bigger tyres on 16s, just didn't know what the biggest size would fit without a lift?
Ideally I'd want 32s with a 2in lift but for now I dont think the 32s will fit without a lift
Zak Ulrich lift won’t matter because when the suspension articulates it will go lower than stock height anyway. Biggest you can fit without cutting is a 31 and you’ll probably just have to remove the mudguards or they will rub a bit
@@RyvalCreative awesome thanks mate!
@@zakulrich3013 im running 265/75/16 no scrub on a 2 inch lift
You will get a lot of scrubbing on the body mount if you haven’t chopped it
You got just a 2inch lift or 2inch lift and 2 inch body ?
Yeah 2" body lift as well
How does your body lift go with centre of gravity change and roll-over feel?
Hey mate, what are the spring series you have on the lux in this video? Is it the c59-350?
Hey mate sorry couldn’t tell you, I bought these second hand
Hey man, I'm currently running 265/75r/16 on a pos 20 rims, 2.5inch lift with superior ucas. So going off you're vid I should be okay with fitting 285/75/16s on 0 offset? Gonna go nitto Mts on 0 offset. Just want some clarification before I dish out 1900 haha. Cheers
Yeah that’s what I’m running currently, you will have to cut a little bit out and might get some scrub if you don’t want to do the body mount chop but apart from that should work all good
Hi mate, I have 2018 hilux sr5 18×9 wheels with 2"lift, just wanna ask if I put 32"tyres will fit fine? Thanks in advance..
they shoudl because 285 70 17s are close to if not 32,s
What suspension setup would you recommend, I don’t mind mixing and matching, the end goal is something that doesn’t rub. What are the most idle uca to run for adjustments?
Really depends on a few things mate like how much you want to modify and how much you want to spend and if you want to keep it legal etc. The thing is that suspension won't affect if it rubs or not because when your suspension compresses the height goes back to factory height if not lower, so you'd want your wheels to fit and turn etc. without rubbing before you get your lift installed.hitting
So the only thing that would require a UCA change is if the lift is higher than 2" on the lux?
You’d probably also need them to run a bigger tyre size because they usually have more adjustment available to get your tyre away from the body mount
Do our Utes fit -44 offset regardless of legality etc, do they fit over our larger brakes?
Neg 44 means a really deep dish externally so they would clear the brakes better if anything, the rim size would be more of an issue rather than offset
Are 33” tyres and a 2” lift legal in WA?
I'm not sure mate, I'd check out your state's government website for details.
mate, i have a 2014 hilux sr 5, i have stock alloy 17 rims, my tyer size is 265\65\ 17. i wanted to install 285\70\ 17s, can i get away with using my stock 17 toyota rims, or must i change the rim? im not certain what offset the standard rims are, maybe 0 offset, taking a guess, but i dont want to install any steelies, thats why i want to keep my stock 17s and just throw on the 285s, another question, i need a 2 inch lift kit to run the 285s, right?
Hi mate, thanks for watching. As far as I know the 17 inch rims you have are positive 30 offset which means it will be very difficult for you to fit them without a lot of cutting in the inner guard and I think you may even have issues with the tyres scrubbing your upper control arms, If you want to keep your current rims maybe just go for some 31" inch tyres as this will be slightly bigger than what you have now and wont require much if anything to fit.
As for the lift you don't need any lift to fit the tyres, if you end up going 285's or smaller you just need to remove some of your bumper of bullbar where the tyre will hit and remove your front mudflaps as well, you also might need to either adjust your caster forwards or do a bodymount chop.
Hope that helps .
@@RyvalCreative thank you
I didn't get it. Did you do the body mount chop ?
What kind of lift do you have ?
I did the body mount chop in a later video, at this time it wasn’t done.
I have 2” sus and 2” body lift. The suspension lift won’t help you fit bigger tyres because when the suspension compresses it goes back down to factory height anyway
@@RyvalCreative I don't get this argument , however see that a lot. My understanding of the situation. - you do the lift by installing longer shock absorber strut. It is popular in Russia to use stock Tundra shocks for this. You get about 2 inch lift with them. By this you have your UCAs and LCAs declined down. You indeed have more travel to go up in this case than stock. And at full compression the wheel will be touching on top. BUT you may lower your bump stop for compression by an inch and this way you will get up travel from neutral position about the same range as stock and prevent UCAs from going all the way up and the wheel rubbing on top
Yes you will be starting from a more extended position due to the longer shock absorbers but when uptravel occurs from compression of the suspension the tire will end up back to its factory position if not even further compressed. Even if you extend the bump stop the tire will still be able to travel far enough upwards that it would make any suspension lift useless as a method of reducing tire scrub.
@@RyvalCreative I still don't agree :). To get tyre rubbing with the lift you MUST compress the spring more than typical value. Basically if you have 2 inch lift and 1 inch increase in tyre radius (33 instead of 31s) you will have to get the spring 1 inch even shorter than stock length at full compression to get to rubbing . You cannot do that since the weight of the vehicle is still the same. There will be no force to compress the spring that much. Besides even if you manage to compress it even further I would suspect that coils will start touching each over.
If your tyre is 1” larger in diameter that means you would have to compress the suspension 1” less than before to contact the body.
thank you!
When I got my hilux, it came with the option of coming with 30.6 inch tires from the dealer. So if I wanted to run 285/75/16 (32.8 inch) on a 2 inch lift, that would be .2 of an inch tire increase (5mm). So the overall tire lift would be 2.5 mil over the legal tire lift (25mm) but I suspect that the lift kit will sag a couple mil, so would the ride height be legal meaning I wouldn't have to get a mod plate?
They probably wouldn’t actually measure hub to guard they would likely just look at the tyre size written on the tyre and defect you because it’s too big regardless of what size lift you have. That being said it’s unlikely and you’d probably have to get a copper who’s having a bad day to sting you for it or be doing something wrong in the first place to get pulled over.
@@RyvalCreative cheers mate, what about insurance when it comes to a couple mm?
They likely would never check and even if they did, they would have to deem that an accident was caused by your tyres being too big in order for them not cover you
Just curious about the mod plates. Wondering if you have one, and about many $$$ it was?
Nah I don’t have one yet but I do plan to in the near future it’s about $650 to mod plate 2”body 2”sus and 285’s
Hey mate where did you get your pillar gauge mounts from
Just off eBay mate!
Hey apparently with a stainless steel snorkel you can actually hear the air going through the snorkel. Is this true
yeah you definitely can, especially on cars with the snorkel on the driver side since it's right next to your head
@@RyvalCreative IS it annoying because im choosing between an arb snorkel and a stainless steel one and if the sound is that annoying i might just go with arb
matthew abraham depends on your personal preference really mate, I personally like it but obviously not for everyone. I’d say try and get a ride in someone’s car that has one and see what you think
are you on dobs 2 or 3 inch suspension lift?
Hey mate, this is about 2.5 inch lift. The shocks are profender from superior engineering.
@@RyvalCreative ok
what size are the wheel width on your hilux, thanks Dave uk
285mm
Does 33s make it more gutless or did you do diff ratios to fix it
Hey mate yeah it does make it very gutless, I would eventually like to do the diff ratios but it’s like 4/5k if you do lockers as well so can’t really justify it at the moment!
Oh yeah thanks no worries
What ratios would u go to 3.9 or 4.1
4.1 would make it almost exactly back to Stock gearing, 3.9 would still be slightly taller so I’d go 4.1 personally
@@RyvalCreative do u reckon twin lockers on 32s would be good or is it worth ratios for 33s
can 35’s make’s a good fit on our hilux?
Mark Morillo anything is possible, I’ve seen people do it but requires a lot of cutting as well as the right suspension setup to get it to work properly
I just use a stanley knife to cut my bumpers. Heaps easier
beno244 oh really, I thought it would be way too thick plastic for that. But yeah if that works that’s a good way to do it. Thanks for commenting 👍
Yeah surprised myself aswell stanley or steak knife
How much lift have you got on this hilux? Cheers
2.5” suspension and 2” body lift on 285/75R16
@@RyvalCreative do you think 285/75/16 will work on 2” lift with bull bar?
I got 315x75 r16 on my n70 no scrub
nice
I'm running 265's that are 36" tall. 285 is just the width, doesn't tell you anything else about the tire.
Yes that’s correct
People say 285's because 285/75R16 and 285/70R17 are the two most common upgrades on Hilux, so we use context to figure out what they mean.
Hey mate what lift are you running 2” or 3” or bigger ?
Hey mate it's somewhere in between, sits at roughly 2.5" at the moment but she is due for some new suspension soon and I'll be going to 2"
How much slower did it make the car ?
Pretty noticeable difference, definitely doesn’t take off as easy and towing is pretty bad now. I want to regear in the future to correct the ratios. I pretty much don’t use 5th now either it comfortably does 110 in 4th
@@RyvalCreative cheers
How’s the fuel?
Didn't really seem to affect it too much, still get around 600ish k's to a tank
16 x what width?
Richard Sedlbauer rims are 16 x 8 and tyres are 285mm wide
@@RyvalCreative Thanks mate
Ripper video
appreciate it
What flares are you running
Mike Nestoroski Utemart 60mm flares