1103 11k kv 85mm 2s has been one of my favorite builds for years now. That's actually the quad in my profile pic. I've always built them up on BetaFPV frames, but I'll have to check out the frame Happymodel is using when they become available. Generally 85 mm frames are a bit beefier and hold up to more crashing. Nice flying as always! 🔥
I assume you are running the BetaFPV motors too? I just ordered an analog Meteor85 tonight after trying the Meteor75 Pro and loving it for indoor stuff. I wanna try to get the 85 light as possible, perhaps with happymodel 1102 13500kv but I'll need to print adapters or drill holes as the BetaFPV frame is 9mm spacing with 4 holes vs 3 and 6.6mm. I also have some 6 gram 270mah 1s batteries I wanna try in series using the new GNB A30 connectors which should save a bit more weight vs the XT30.
@@ChrisHarmon1 Yes, I have been using the older BetaFPV 1103 11000 kv motors. 1102 should still be able to do well, and save a bit of weight. Typically I fly with one of three battery sizes depending on whether I'm looking for more performance or flight time. At the light end for best acro performance I use a 2s 350 mah. If I'm just up for cruising around and enjoying a slower flight I go for a 2s 520 mah, and I also have 450s that split the difference. I get about 2 minutes of flying out of the small packs, up to 3 1/4 - 4 minutes out of the bigger packs. I've gone as high as a 2s 650 here: czcams.com/video/bOMeT4X7crM/video.html
@@ChrisHarmon1 I did this! It doesn't fly that well with 1102 13500kV motors. (you can see it in a video on my yt channel) Only with two blade props and with 300mah 2S Lipos. And of course only with a leightweight happymodel 85mm frame. With three blades the motors are overproped. And with 450mah the power is somehow missing. it's not efficient either. shorter flight time than with 1103 engines! and more voltage. All in all the 1103 motors are much better at least in my experience and for my racing flying style. But good idea with the 270mah tattu lipos. I thought so too..
I'm convinced heads just makes these new bnf reviews just to show us that really he really is that guy. My dude really is the tiny whoop freestyle king. Lol. Sick flying as always, much love brutha 🤙
Do you want me to destroy him? Say the word! Say it! 3X $140 with a CRSF Nano; not sure if it's worth paying $140 just to inverted orbit a playground tree... in eech.. analog
I have it also and it's a strong frame and it goes like a rocket😊 and a solid factory tune 👍 I really like it! And awesome flying dude! The DVR of the HDZERO goggles is really nice!!!
I have been practicing my power loops and backwards flying indoors. Think it's gonna be a good while before I see anything like your results, sick stuff.
If only the quads you review came with your preset freestyle moves😫....🤣 🤌🏼 insane quad spankin right there! I need a robust frame just to try to do a fraction of those moves lol✌🏽
I'm very interested, but want to see the hd zero version before making a decision. Thanks for a great review and demonstration of how it can fly in the hands of a master.
I hope you enjoy it! The frame can be very weak where the struts connect to the ducts. Make sure to have some e6000 or Welders glue handy. Personally, I melt the frame back together with a soldering iron, then add a thin layer of glue over that.
Great flying. Can't wait for the HDzero or Walksnail version. Also: thanks for the background music! Took me back to my youth, and great addition to your flying style.
Hmm. Very similar to the meteor85. Same specs. After my last two happymodel diamond FC's didn't work properly, I'm holding back on buying anything from happymodel. I got the diamond FCs with two different gyros and even from two different vendors. I even bought new motors to ensure that's not the fault. No diff or hex from the happymodel homepage helped or even quicksliver didn't solve the issue. Very sad and frustrating. People I talk to have been experiencing quality issues as well. Maybe the X12 is not having faults like the diamond. Ciotty also wrote to stay away from the diamond FC in his last tinywhoop video with JB.
I like the Bassline platform so jumped on these as soon as I saw them pop up for sale and was not expecting much but I was honestly really surprised, they are a few Grams heavier than the Bassline however to me they feel lighter when flying they also seem to handle better to me. I have not been this impressed by a BNF since the Emax Hawk5 which has been a few years now and I have had several models since so I just really think they knocked this one out of the park!
I can confirm IL's answer. 2S 85mm 1103 11000kV 2S 300mah is a super good combo (very snappy). Because I need full power, I soldered the motor cables directly to the fc. That gives 2:30-3:00min flight time with full send
Nice Review! I'm planning to buy this whoop as my first FPV drone, the controller I will be using is the tx16s and the googles I'll be using is the eachine EV800D, I still cant decide what receiver to pick for both the drone and controller, what do you recommend for me as a total beginner? the 4 in 1 or ELRS? It seems that the ELRS is hard to start as a beginner, and what does "SPI" frsky mean? Can I bind it with the 4 in 1 of the tx16s? And If I pick the ELRS I cant find a decent review of how to bind it, I can only understand the binding of the 4 in 1 but now Im not sure since I dont know the meaning of "SPI" frsky, Thanks In advance
I agree! All of the frames I transplanted this build to have been open prop. There are some very beefy frames called "SKRCH" from jacks3dprinting. But any old 2" frame should work
Do you have a homepage or sth where you share your pid tunes? My Mob8 flies very poorly. I get propwash so fast. It can't even handle small split S or sharper corners without starting to wobble. I have other happymodel quads and I just can't believe that it flies like this. Kinda feels sluggish too. Hovering and cruising is very smooth so i don't think that i got a damaged unit. I can't find a single guide or video on how to improve the tuning, it seems like nobody did it. I tried it myself and followd instruction for a whoop tune, but i just caused fly aways and now I'm a little afraid to try tinkering myself again
Finally bought mob 8 analog...I get random failsafes even indoors close to 5ft when flying with 150hz packet rate and dynamic power on. It regains connection once I disarm and rearm...have you faced an issue like this? This is very disappointing after my excitement about moving to ELRS.
This looks great! You got me excited about playground whoop ripping later this summer :) Do you have a good solution to charging the 2s batteries on the go? The Vifly Whoopstore makes it easy for 1s batteries, but how can we achieve something similar with 2s? 🤔
Fiiine, ill buy it 😂. Infoor seasonnis almost upon us...whats your thoughts on the mobula7 1d elrs for indoors? I just ordered the 1s firefly baby nano v2 but im thinking i should grab a whoop as well for indoors.
Hola, ¿Qué rates usas?. Me cuesta ajustar mi mobula8 para que vuele bien, encuentro muy lentos mis rolls. Me gustaría saber tus rates para tener una idea de que hacer. Gracias desde Chile🇨🇱
I wouldn't recommend them for carrying a lot of weight. 0702 seem to perform best on a build that is as light as possible. The whoop I used is 15g dry.
@@InfinityLoops I must say I'm a bit confused then. I just bought a Mobula7 1S ELRS. The board says X12 ELRS V2.1. When looking up the board on happymodel, it states that it supports 1-2S. Does that mean I can use 2S on the Mobula7?
@@InfinityLoops Ok, I see why they set it as 1S then. Any recommendation for motors if I wanted to use 2S? I got a set of 25000KV 0802 or would you say going up to something like 1103 with 11kv like the Mobula8? Thanks for taking your time to answer. I'm still trying to learn these things. :)
They are very different from each other. The Mobula8 is significantly larger. I'd say the Mob8 is best for outdoors. If you're trying to mainly fly inside, the 65pro.
@@ЖЖЖЖЖЖЖЖЖЖЖЖЖЖ Я не знаю. Тут ми вивішуємо наш прапор, щоб продемонструвати гордість і повагу до наших земляків-американців. Я навіть прапор України іноді бачу тут висить.
I just ordered the Mob8 from BG for $115 bucks and can't wait for it to arrive.... In 3 weeks! 🤣🤣✈️👍
1103 11k kv 85mm 2s has been one of my favorite builds for years now. That's actually the quad in my profile pic. I've always built them up on BetaFPV frames, but I'll have to check out the frame Happymodel is using when they become available. Generally 85 mm frames are a bit beefier and hold up to more crashing. Nice flying as always! 🔥
I assume you are running the BetaFPV motors too? I just ordered an analog Meteor85 tonight after trying the Meteor75 Pro and loving it for indoor stuff. I wanna try to get the 85 light as possible, perhaps with happymodel 1102 13500kv but I'll need to print adapters or drill holes as the BetaFPV frame is 9mm spacing with 4 holes vs 3 and 6.6mm. I also have some 6 gram 270mah 1s batteries I wanna try in series using the new GNB A30 connectors which should save a bit more weight vs the XT30.
@@ChrisHarmon1 Yes, I have been using the older BetaFPV 1103 11000 kv motors. 1102 should still be able to do well, and save a bit of weight. Typically I fly with one of three battery sizes depending on whether I'm looking for more performance or flight time. At the light end for best acro performance I use a 2s 350 mah. If I'm just up for cruising around and enjoying a slower flight I go for a 2s 520 mah, and I also have 450s that split the difference. I get about 2 minutes of flying out of the small packs, up to 3 1/4 - 4 minutes out of the bigger packs. I've gone as high as a 2s 650 here: czcams.com/video/bOMeT4X7crM/video.html
@@ChrisHarmon1 I did this! It doesn't fly that well with 1102 13500kV motors. (you can see it in a video on my yt channel) Only with two blade props and with 300mah 2S Lipos. And of course only with a leightweight happymodel 85mm frame. With three blades the motors are overproped. And with 450mah the power is somehow missing. it's not efficient either. shorter flight time than with 1103 engines! and more voltage. All in all the 1103 motors are much better at least in my experience and for my racing flying style. But good idea with the 270mah tattu lipos. I thought so too..
I got Mob8 on the way, I wish BetaFPV would make an air version for the 85mm frame. I had the meteor 75pro and the frame looked really clean
I bought a Betafpv Meteor85 whoop and 2 months later while cleaning it I found 4 hairline cracks in the frame. Too damn flimsy if a frame for me.
I'm convinced heads just makes these new bnf reviews just to show us that really he really is that guy. My dude really is the tiny whoop freestyle king. Lol. Sick flying as always, much love brutha 🤙
Do you want me to destroy him? Say the word! Say it! 3X
$140 with a CRSF Nano; not sure if it's worth paying $140 just to inverted orbit a playground tree... in eech.. analog
I have it also and it's a strong frame and it goes like a rocket😊 and a solid factory tune 👍 I really like it! And awesome flying dude! The DVR of the HDZERO goggles is really nice!!!
Gotta love an 85mm 2s at a playground. So much fun to be had. Still really like my 85mm 1s whoop for gap hunting.
Sick rip bruh!! Awesome review man!! I love how detailed u did the review! Im loving this mob8
This baby flies very well and video signal very clear.
Nice review and flights! that inverted no-no at 06:04 was very cool!
I have been practicing my power loops and backwards flying indoors. Think it's gonna be a good while before I see anything like your results, sick stuff.
If only the quads you review came with your preset freestyle moves😫....🤣 🤌🏼 insane quad spankin right there! I need a robust frame just to try to do a fraction of those moves lol✌🏽
Wow !!!! Great video brother!!!! I can't wait to get to try one of these babies !!!!! This is so exciting and I just can't Hide It !!!!!
love the matrix drill system, i have all the tools for it.
looks like a fun outdoor basher. would be a dope hdzero build for this frame.
Absolutely! I believe happymodel hinted at a HDZ version coming soon.
I'm very interested, but want to see the hd zero version before making a decision. Thanks for a great review and demonstration of how it can fly in the hands of a master.
Just ordered one thanks for sharing the review
I hope you enjoy it!
The frame can be very weak where the struts connect to the ducts. Make sure to have some e6000 or Welders glue handy.
Personally, I melt the frame back together with a soldering iron, then add a thin layer of glue over that.
dang dude! shredd_N, and grooVe_n heck yea man. Mob8, i like it, 11000kv on 2s is pretty darn fun! that thang tracked so good!
Good afternoon nice drone cool review
Just ordered mine hope comes by the weekend..$117?? Try $104 for the W 🙌🏾 my first 85mm 🤗
Awesome flight video!
You are definitely selling this drone :-)
That was a sick rip!!
Great flying.
Can't wait for the HDzero or Walksnail version.
Also: thanks for the background music! Took me back to my youth, and great addition to your flying style.
Hmm. Very similar to the meteor85. Same specs.
After my last two happymodel diamond FC's didn't work properly, I'm holding back on buying anything from happymodel.
I got the diamond FCs with two different gyros and even from two different vendors.
I even bought new motors to ensure that's not the fault.
No diff or hex from the happymodel homepage helped or even quicksliver didn't solve the issue.
Very sad and frustrating.
People I talk to have been experiencing quality issues as well.
Maybe the X12 is not having faults like the diamond.
Ciotty also wrote to stay away from the diamond FC in his last tinywhoop video with JB.
так, діамант хуйовенький
This is AMAZING!!!!!
I literally built this quad last year because I wanted this exact setup. Might have to get one anyway.
I like the Bassline platform so jumped on these as soon as I saw them pop up for sale and was not expecting much but I was honestly really surprised, they are a few Grams heavier than the Bassline however to me they feel lighter when flying they also seem to handle better to me. I have not been this impressed by a BNF since the Emax Hawk5 which has been a few years now and I have had several models since so I just really think they knocked this one out of the park!
Really nice set up
it"s a big mama. great rip Heads
Thanks
Hella Dope video 🔥🤟
this is sick ... thank you
Does the extra weight add to the 'fly-ability'? like making the jump from 65 to 75mm? Also perfect mix of motor audio time and ripping to tunes!
I liked the extra weight. At 2s, it felt really balanced. Lotta snap in the throttle, like some high kv 0802s on a 75, a bit more than that.
I can confirm IL's answer. 2S 85mm 1103 11000kV 2S 300mah is a super good combo (very snappy). Because I need full power, I soldered the motor cables directly to the fc. That gives 2:30-3:00min flight time with full send
very robust 😂
Nice Review! I'm planning to buy this whoop as my first FPV drone, the controller I will be using is the tx16s and the googles I'll be using is the eachine EV800D, I still cant decide what receiver to pick for both the drone and controller, what do you recommend for me as a total beginner? the 4 in 1 or ELRS? It seems that the ELRS is hard to start as a beginner, and what does "SPI" frsky mean? Can I bind it with the 4 in 1 of the tx16s? And If I pick the ELRS I cant find a decent review of how to bind it, I can only understand the binding of the 4 in 1 but now Im not sure since I dont know the meaning of "SPI" frsky, Thanks In advance
can you share your pids and rates? that would be awesome❤️ Love it you are a master at the sticks
Thank you!
This was flown on the out-of-the-box PIDs, and with default Betaflight rates. 667 on all axis and 0 expo.
Nice ripping.
Looking forward to the hd zero version 👍
@@rgross989 Sure thing , soon.
Hi from Montreal, Quebec, Canada !! Frame upgrade suggestion ?? The stock one break too easily
I agree!
All of the frames I transplanted this build to have been open prop. There are some very beefy frames called "SKRCH" from jacks3dprinting. But any old 2" frame should work
Nice rip
Nice video man! Which dvr was used? Seems like it has good quality recording
This was recorded on the HDZ goggles using the TBS Fusion analog module.
May convert my baseline to one
Not bad footage
Good freestyle!
Do you have a homepage or sth where you share your pid tunes?
My Mob8 flies very poorly. I get propwash so fast. It can't even handle small split S or sharper corners without starting to wobble. I have other happymodel quads and I just can't believe that it flies like this. Kinda feels sluggish too. Hovering and cruising is very smooth so i don't think that i got a damaged unit.
I can't find a single guide or video on how to improve the tuning, it seems like nobody did it. I tried it myself and followd instruction for a whoop tune, but i just caused fly aways and now I'm a little afraid to try tinkering myself again
Finally bought mob 8 analog...I get random failsafes even indoors close to 5ft when flying with 150hz packet rate and dynamic power on. It regains connection once I disarm and rearm...have you faced an issue like this?
This is very disappointing after my excitement about moving to ELRS.
This looks great! You got me excited about playground whoop ripping later this summer :) Do you have a good solution to charging the 2s batteries on the go? The Vifly Whoopstore makes it easy for 1s batteries, but how can we achieve something similar with 2s? 🤔
This footage crazy, what kinda goggles are being used here?
HDZero goggles with a TBS Fusion module.
@@InfinityLoops lol that makes sense, those goggles make analog look like Blu ray lol
Fiiine, ill buy it 😂. Infoor seasonnis almost upon us...whats your thoughts on the mobula7 1d elrs for indoors? I just ordered the 1s firefly baby nano v2 but im thinking i should grab a whoop as well for indoors.
Mob7 1s is pretty boss. Might suggest different motors eventually, but it was a good bnf
how did you get such an amazing video feed?
Not sure exactly. I didn't do anything special. The DVR was recorded through the TBS Fusion analog module on HDZero goggles.
Great review dude ! how do you manage the extended upward facing loops ( under neath the tree in your front lawn )
Inverted Orbit or Trippy Spin is the name of it. czcams.com/video/tz_JYJstCU8/video.html
Hola, ¿Qué rates usas?. Me cuesta ajustar mi mobula8 para que vuele bien, encuentro muy lentos mis rolls.
Me gustaría saber tus rates para tener una idea de que hacer.
Gracias desde Chile🇨🇱
It’s an update shutterbug :)
Is there a QS tune for that bugger?
so this is basically the bassline in whoop form, have you compared how the two feel?
Does it have the potential to compete for the micro-cinnewhoop project?
I wouldn't recommend them for carrying a lot of weight. 0702 seem to perform best on a build that is as light as possible. The whoop I used is 15g dry.
what is it like in 20mph winds?
How is the range on it? Worry that SPI receiver doesn't have enough range.
Which do you think is the ideal battery for this one, 450, 550 or 650mah?
For freestyle I would stick with 450/550, personally.
Wich battery fit in this frame?
Anybody knows what the aspect ratio of the camera is? And can it be changed?
It's 4:3 out of the box. But you can change to 16:9.
@@InfinityLoops change the camera or in the OSD settings of the same camera? Mine looks so fished eye, is that normal for 4:3? Objects seem so far.
Really, the frame is very robust? How much did they pay you to say this?
I get paid in stickers. I'm guessing you didn't have great luck with it? I have this on analog and HDZ, I haven't managed to break one yet
Isn't that the same 🌳tree that filed a restraining order against you?
Is it running super high stock D gains?
But what did it sound like banging off the side of O G's head?
I wish. One of these days...😈
@@InfinityLoops we can hope right
Wonder if I should did my 2" in 2. I built it years ago. My second quad. I built it 4S
Dude you rip to good to rip only @ your house please go out side more. very inspiring for the bando i found
I'll keep trying to find new spots. Let me know if you ever take this bad boy to the bando!
@@InfinityLoops this is a good option if I break mine I lol probably take this route instead of the usual mob7
Wait, this one has X12 ELRS V2.0 with recommended 2S?
Correct, yes.
@@InfinityLoops I must say I'm a bit confused then. I just bought a Mobula7 1S ELRS. The board says X12 ELRS V2.1. When looking up the board on happymodel, it states that it supports 1-2S. Does that mean I can use 2S on the Mobula7?
With the fc you can. With the motors on the mobula7 i wouldn't recommend it.
@@InfinityLoops Ok, I see why they set it as 1S then. Any recommendation for motors if I wanted to use 2S? I got a set of 25000KV 0802 or would you say going up to something like 1103 with 11kv like the Mobula8?
Thanks for taking your time to answer. I'm still trying to learn these things. :)
No worries. If you're looking to run 2s, I would stick around 14,000 and lower 0802s. Or 1102s. Hell even 1002s @14000kv.
Why the incomplete logo in the right corner?
What? Right corner? Where at?
What are your rates
I got default Betaflight rates. 667 on all axis, no expo
75 pro update?
Is it better than betafpv meteor 65 pro?
They are very different from each other. The Mobula8 is significantly larger.
I'd say the Mob8 is best for outdoors. If you're trying to mainly fly inside, the 65pro.
will they ever give me a 10 minute whoop?
This is not possible with good flight performance using today's technology.
Only for a cruiser with a very large lipo or li-ion battery
@@butterflyfpv give me tomorrows technology!!!!!
@@Okahui 😂👍
Genial tu pe envoyer tes pids stp merci
Какой бонус владельцу дома от висящего флага?
Без бонусів
@@InfinityLoops А почему на Украине на частные дома не вешают флаги? В чем разница?
@@ЖЖЖЖЖЖЖЖЖЖЖЖЖЖ Я не знаю. Тут ми вивішуємо наш прапор, щоб продемонструвати гордість і повагу до наших земляків-американців. Я навіть прапор України іноді бачу тут висить.
@@InfinityLoops В Москве на днях флаги везде вывесили на домах на "День Победы" над фашистами 😁
UwU
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