Big Tool Performance & The DEWALT PowerStack Battery
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The DEWALT PowerStack is an amazing battery, but at this point in time, it really should be limited in use to smaller tools. It will power this 6-1/2" saw well, but for a very short period of time.
The Pouch-Style cells in the DEWALT PowerStack are fitted on top of each other with little room for these battery cells to breathe. That lack of room seems to make these batteries run hotter on larger amp draw tools. We have very curious to see these pouch cells in a larger configuration.
It does help you understand more about the DEWALT PowerStack and also the premise of this video if you have watched the prior 3 videos. We use some of the same drills and bits so we should know the performance. It also helps you to see how far pulled back these cells become when hot if you have seen them run in normal conditions.
The DEWALT PowerStack is an amazing battery pack with a ton of power. It likes a bit of rest between its uses, but the performance is amazing! If this is the future, it is looking pretty amazing since we only have a very small 1P battery pack at this time. These packs in a 2P or 3P configuration would be able to power DEWALT Miter Saws, Table Saws, and heaven maybe open up larger tools to come over to battery power without a loss in power. This technology of pouch cells could do a lot of the outdoor power equipment side of the battery-powered world.
Overall, the performance of both the DEWALT PowerStack and the XR 5.0Ah were very similar when hot, but there seems to be more of a difference when the batteries become heat soaked. The pouch-style PowerStack seems to slow more when really hot.
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I love how you clear that bs up right off the rip
You would not believe some of the stuff people put in the comments, so it is nice to try to clear it up.
You have to screw the batteries together with drywall screws.
It's a interesting glimpse into what will likely come out of the pipe. Right now I don't have the need to rush out and buy the 1.7 power stacks but as they evolve with higher amp hours is when I might be more interested.
Great channel, solid review. The power stack on the 850 is perfect for screwing off decking and exterior trim…impact drivers shouldn’t be used for installing lags or flatloks or timberloks, impact wrench’s should be used for that
Why do you say that? I thought impact drivers and wrenches were the same mechanically - just different chuck.
Dewalt Powerstack 12V would be ideal - give us a 7ah Powerstack 12v for the extreme tools (would be the same size as the existing 12v 5ah battery) I need one for the circular saw
I think the Powerstack is a good step forward, I wanna it's long term performance etc But I'm excited for the future!
A 3.4 ah version would still be really small and crazy powerful. That's when I would actually be interested in the powerstack line of batteries. For now they are too expensive and too low capacity for me to care.
I hope we see a 5Ah next. Maybe this same style pack with larger pouches. If we can get more power in the same size 5Ah pack, I would be thrilled.
@@WorkshopAddict 5ah is the perfect size for most tasks
i prefer the 4ah 21700 batteries for now
this is old technology look it up bad news
So my 5 amp XR battery does great..these power stacks allow more power but what is run time like?
With how minuscule compact and subcompact impact drivers have become lately, they're starting to look a little silly with the normal 5ah batteries hanging off the bottom. They're essentially as big as the driver itself. The powerstack batteries seem to help make the size of the battery more dimensionally appropriate to the smaller tools while keeping power output high. I'll be interested to see how other manufacturers respond.
Ywah i got powerstacks specifically because my baby impact wasnt fitting where i wanted it
The only thing im gna use a power stack battery for is my dcf840. Don't think it would handle alot of use. I use 6ah flexvolt batteries for everything else
I put my 1.7 powerstack on my DCG416 grinder. It works just fine for small jobs
Holiday Greetings from the sunny and warm Arizona. Migrated from Michigan a week before snow.
Hope you enjoy the winter out west!
@@WorkshopAddict Looking forwarded to our return. Moving back into a house with garage. Will create a new workshop. With the new battery powered tools I can do a lot being disabled in sitting in my mobility scooter.
You’ll see someone in India stacking them together soon
business as usual, the show must go on. 😎
Powerstack 1.7 ah is perfect for drills and drivers, with the circular saws i use my larger batteries
I’d say it is better than the flex volt battery’s. Maybe not the 15AH. I know you said it doesn’t matter but I’ve literally saw 2-3 other videos of ppl testing them and the double stack out performed it every time. They were drilling 4 holes in a 4x4 or 6x6 and the double stack won everytime
maybe when they start making powerstack like 5ah or bigger. 2ah is a good start for smaller tools.
Toolbear said it might explode due to it being same as the Samsung hoverboard batteries. I think Dewalt has done their R&D to prevent explosions.
I have froze it in videos. I have put it in an oven in videos and used it after. I have pushed it to death and mine is fine. The only explosion has been my mind.
Toolbear likes to make a lot of drama for views . He’s not the most educated bear in the woods
Who is this toolbear?
@@WorkshopAddict The toolbear channel guy. @thedenoftools
@@fishmanhype6304 Roger that. Did not think of him as the Tool Bear. Lol. I will have to remember that.
Great video. I was waiting to see a test of how long the power stack would last compared to the 5a battery (run time) also compared to the 6a battery with the 2100 cells ...do you know if run time is longer ...we know the power is about the same as the 5a ...thanks again for your videos!
In one of the drill videos I drained the Powerstack and the 5.0 Ah still had half a charge. In this video, 3.5 cuts drained the battery. The current power stack is 1.7Ah and as we said in the video, it will last 33% as long as the 5Ah battery. While it can put out the same power as 2P cells, it still is a 1P pack that is not rated with high Ah. Amp Hour is Amp hour and doing the same tasks, the runtime of this battery compared to any other can be calculated as a percentage of it.
Thank you for this information. I did hear you mention that in the video about the 5a v.s. power stack percentage difference on paper but just double checking if that worked out in actual real testing. I will go back and check out the one with you doing the drill test with power stack. I watch all your videos, will have to see if I missed this one some how. Thank you for getting back to me. Hope you and your family had a great Thanksgiving.
@@scottdezieck7056 From my use, and from testing other batteries, it is true. Our drill test shows most of it. We have put a 2P 4.0Ah bosch against the 1P compact 4Ah and they had the exact same runtime in a vacuum. Ah is Ah no matter what under the same load. Now the powerstack pan push more amps, so with a higher amp draw, that battery would die faster than a normal compact, but that is not fair to say since the other compacts cannot push the amps.
I don’t know if they are ment for the bigger tools. This is only video I’ve seen anyone using one with a bigger tool. I’ve been trying to see how it does with a saw zaw
I can easily find 2x 3ah 21700 batteries for about $99 on sale, and about $150 regular price, I don't think I'd really care to use a 3 ah for anything bigger than a hammer drill, and that's for smaller holes and fasteners
It is not for everyone right now, but it is a great glimpse into the near future.
I'm looking at buying a kit and have the option 5 ah xr batteries or powerstack 1.7 ah batteries anyone have recommendations given there comparable power output?
Not true... Those Powerstacks are a handyman’s dream. I bet they do great on sheet goods for a little soffit repair. You might burn them up quick! Lol weight is everything I’m old.haha
Wonder how well the Powerstak battery would do on The New Atomic Impact Wrenches the DCF921 and The DCF923 🤔 good video Brian @WorkshopAddict
Powerstack batteries are definitely a high power for short periods battery not a Prolonged use Style battery For sure alot of Sag nice testing @WorkshopAddict
Powerstack defenitly preforms better then a regular 1p 2ah Battery
Would love to see the powestak go up against some 21700 cells Brian 😎🛠️😎🛠️😎
I have this in the works. Been tough to get the 4Ah compact.
@@WorkshopAddict that's my favorite battery😍😍😍
Right on Brother. Great video
Always great videos. Stay safe...
Nice testing Brian @WorkshopAddict
I only use 4 and up in my saws.
brian you already got the 5.0ah powerstack?
they just released them over here in cesspool europe
155 euro haha
I do not have the 5Ah yet.
@@WorkshopAddict oke, normally they release first in the us and months later in europe
It's struggling compared to the Craftsman video I just saw running through a wet 4 x 4 pressure treated like you did with the Craftsman this saw Will not hold up nope just saying LOL
I'm not seeing any value in these batteries right now. 1.7ah 2 pack is $179 right now, while a traditional 5ah 2 pack can be gotten for $150 or 200+free tool. The powerstack is a lot more money for a lot less runtime. For what? If compact is necessary then we already have a 12v system. The whole point of 20v tools is more power and more runtime.
Powerstack is $2.6/wh when in a 2 pack for $179
3ah 20v are $0.82/wh when in a 2 pack for $99
5ah XR 20v are $1/wh in a 2 pack for $199, plus charger and currently free tool.
Maybe once they release higher capacity powerstacks and lower the prices they'll be worthwhile, but right now you're just spending more money for the "new" thing with no actual value.
Some really like it and for others, it is not worth it. I get it. That is one of the reasons I am trying to put this battery in every situation possible to help people decide if it is right for them or not.
@@WorkshopAddict What does "some really like it" mean though? Where is the actual practical value?
@@caramelzappa For a guy who loves the latest tech and wants the smallest battery with the biggest amp output and does not need runtime, it works. You have to be the right person for this battery.
You should do the temperature check like it did on the Craftsman this is not holding up nearly as much or as well as the Craftsman one did so Craftsman DIY? Nope that's garbage. Craftsman is not DIY it is holding up better than the DeWalt, like I said before Craftsman it's killing it and it is construction-grade just saying...
so why did it cut out on the 1st go but went on to do 1.5 runs after the other batterys had a go before cutting out..? not doubting just Curious
We also found in other tests that the Powerstack battery likes to be warmed up, even when warm. I did not think it would make a difference in a long cut, but when drilling, it takes a large hole or two for the battery to kick in and give it everything. This makes more sense if you seen our drill video on this battery. I also might have slightly slowed on the second go around to compensate, but it does not look that way.
@@WorkshopAddict thanks a mill for the reply. I'm not trying to pick faults in your tests, I've nothing but dewalt tools and your opinions matter to me. you tell it as it is. thanks keep up.the good work 👏
Thanks for another great review.
Just saying Craftsman quote-unquote LOL DIY didn't have the Hang-Ups that the DeWalt does right in this video even with the 2 amp battery
how long has this been a thing?
About a month.
Is that a 7 1/4 saw?
6-1/2"
if it was new technology the ev auto industry would be running them in cars
Come on dude everybody knows that you're supposed to tape them together to get that extra power 😏
That was a serious comment. A guy asked how they stack together and if they would work in a flexvolt with 3 of them.
@@WorkshopAddict jeez man 🤣
@@WorkshopAddict maybe that will be dewalts version of Makita 36v! Just run a saw with 3 batts, call it 20V³
So my biggest question about all this power stack business is this:
Since DeWalt has been paying royalties to Milwaukee for thier patent design on the 18v lithium ion batteries, since DeWalt released this design first, does that mean Milwaukee will now be paying DeWalt royalties for this patent technology??? 🤔🤔🤔
Dewalt rep: " **drops mic and walks off stage** "
I think the stacked batteries technology has been around like laptops or so. It just not explicitly mentioned.
Dewalt has not been paying Milwaukee royalties for their patent design nor did any other company Makita, Bosch etc.... they did not invent lithium, the only company that had to pay royalties is because they made a battery identical to Milwaukee
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It stopped because rhe wood pinches the blade lmao, if u held the strip it wouldnt happpen
Do me a favor. Sell one of them batteries and go buy a 5 gallon tub of paint and paint the walls. I'm a sucker for professional presentation. Unfinished garage wall isn't it. I know it sounds petty. But I am sure more feel the same way as I do.
if that unpainted wall concerns you that much I wouldn't suggest you to watch any more of his videos...
spoiler alert : he doesn't paint it:
worst moan ever 🤦