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I said this 100x destiny is an mmo that has no gatekeeping tbh. You know what helps with that? Sherpas! OMG if only other games will do the same and reward veterans with teaching new players. I have been through it all. I have done the pugging prog group method and it is awful. The reason it is awful is because the group you start with is most likely not the group you will end with. Mixing progging with people that might have more exp than you leads to 3 fails then you need to find a new group. This makes the experience really awful. Now my experience having someone that teaches you do the raid, a sherpa, now that makes the experience way better.
i mean yes theoretically you can get into the group but as soon as your progress does not match the least they expect for that ultimate you are getting kicked (low parse) ... dont get me wrong i get your point in the end all the factors are shifted from a bunch of vertical systems prechecks* (gems, cards , ilvl etc) to simply how good can you play your class and some materia slots; but the closest to this especific case you imply would be a pf of any hell content and not current endgame stuff, if you where to do the current endgame raid series from ffxiv on any party they would check how many pieces of gear you already have or if you at least got the crafted set with some average melds on before going in. both games need improvements on various cases, at the end it is a matter of which one appeals to you the most. or play them both if you have the money / time.
that system is impossible to implement in LA. first, LA has gates. you may be able to finish the first gate but got jailed to 2nd. second, LA raids are so hard. with the coming of thaemine and echidna it become extremely harder for casual. third, are the carry-mentality and bots are present in LA
I truly believe you have NO idea how difficult some of FFXIV’s ultimates are? You could see gates as prog points, which the partyfinder in FFXIV do have. People are at different prog points all the time, you ‘just apply’ to the lobby. That’s it. No gatekeeping. Has nothing to do with LA having gates or being hard. I’m 100% sure FFXIV has harder raids 💀
but the moment you get jailed in LA, let just say g2, that's pretty much game over. no gold for that week on that gate, no loots, no cards and less item requirements for the progression system which will leave you to be gatekeep more next week. you can't even take a day break on that game
Lost Ark is definateley killed with the latest LOA ON 2024, unfortunately nothing else to play in MMORPG genre but at least it's summer so gaming off mode for me :)
I won't defend Lost ark Monetization but I will defend Lost ark Raid design, there's a reason why Lost ark Raid design is unmatched even by Wow and FF14. The difficulty in Lost ark is much higher than any other mmo when it comes for the Casual player to clear that's why gatekeeping is so much more prevalent in that game. Also the game isn't Tab target so the average player can't just Macro their skill and just press 1 button. Bosses don't stand still, they move and are mobile, your skill are bound to miss. Echidna for example used to have a Brutal dmg reflect that was soo fast that you needed to be really good at the game to react. I was watching Kanima do raids in ff14, and holy shit are the players soo fucking bad that they can't react to a telegraph that takes 5 second to build up.
xdd Lost Ark players watching like: pikachu face
I've always said lost ark should adapt ffxiv party finder
left lost ark permenantly now, even after being a whale and helping newbies. Oh well, let the game rot! Enjoying tf out of Elden ring though!
I said this 100x destiny is an mmo that has no gatekeeping tbh. You know what helps with that? Sherpas! OMG if only other games will do the same and reward veterans with teaching new players. I have been through it all. I have done the pugging prog group method and it is awful. The reason it is awful is because the group you start with is most likely not the group you will end with. Mixing progging with people that might have more exp than you leads to 3 fails then you need to find a new group. This makes the experience really awful. Now my experience having someone that teaches you do the raid, a sherpa, now that makes the experience way better.
i mean yes theoretically you can get into the group but as soon as your progress does not match the least they expect for that ultimate you are getting kicked (low parse) ... dont get me wrong i get your point in the end all the factors are shifted from a bunch of vertical systems prechecks* (gems, cards , ilvl etc) to simply how good can you play your class and some materia slots; but the closest to this especific case you imply would be a pf of any hell content and not current endgame stuff, if you where to do the current endgame raid series from ffxiv on any party they would check how many pieces of gear you already have or if you at least got the crafted set with some average melds on before going in. both games need improvements on various cases, at the end it is a matter of which one appeals to you the most. or play them both if you have the money / time.
that system is impossible to implement in LA. first, LA has gates. you may be able to finish the first gate but got jailed to 2nd. second, LA raids are so hard. with the coming of thaemine and echidna it become extremely harder for casual. third, are the carry-mentality and bots are present in LA
I truly believe you have NO idea how difficult some of FFXIV’s ultimates are? You could see gates as prog points, which the partyfinder in FFXIV do have. People are at different prog points all the time, you ‘just apply’ to the lobby. That’s it. No gatekeeping. Has nothing to do with LA having gates or being hard. I’m 100% sure FFXIV has harder raids 💀
but the moment you get jailed in LA, let just say g2, that's pretty much game over. no gold for that week on that gate, no loots, no cards and less item requirements for the progression system which will leave you to be gatekeep more next week. you can't even take a day break on that game
@@siximpack3291 Good game design ig
Lol u think lost ark raids are harder than savage and ultimate raids in ff the only thing that comes close is hell mode and no one plays that shit.
i didn't say that ff raids are "NOT" hard or LA raids are harder, what i said is LA raids are hard especially for a new/casual player. read again.
Lost Ark is definateley killed with the latest LOA ON 2024, unfortunately nothing else to play in MMORPG genre but at least it's summer so gaming off mode for me :)
Lost ark is absolutely pathetic
I won't defend Lost ark Monetization but I will defend Lost ark Raid design, there's a reason why Lost ark Raid design is unmatched even by Wow and FF14. The difficulty in Lost ark is much higher than any other mmo when it comes for the Casual player to clear that's why gatekeeping is so much more prevalent in that game. Also the game isn't Tab target so the average player can't just Macro their skill and just press 1 button. Bosses don't stand still, they move and are mobile, your skill are bound to miss. Echidna for example used to have a Brutal dmg reflect that was soo fast that you needed to be really good at the game to react. I was watching Kanima do raids in ff14, and holy shit are the players soo fucking bad that they can't react to a telegraph that takes 5 second to build up.
You think ff players are macroing skills for raids? LOL
bro can not forget about LA huh? just move on if u are not happy with the game...
He already did, and you gave him a view, dentge af 💀
@@Shellw2 amazing, hope he can enjoy my view lol
He's just salty cause it prolly was his favourite game for a while and its hard to let it go