An Introduction to Simone de Beauvoir's The Second Sex- A Macat Literature Analysis
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- "One is not born, but rather becomes, a woman." Male-dominated society deliberately constructs the idea of femininity to keep men in control. Watch Macat's short video for a great introduction to Simone de Beauvoirís The Second Sex, one of the most important feminist books ever written.
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This is a great summary. My only problem is the recorder's emphasis on "DE Beauvoir".
lol
Big problem, indeed. :D
but I m here to know that how to pronounce De Beauvoir 😂
She says it correctly.
I like it though.
This is a neat introduction, but I have a bugbear with the statement close to the end "at a time when few women worked". It may be true that few women were in paid employment at the time, but of course women worked. Women have always worked. Raising children, keeping house, preparing food, making clothes, helping in one's community, all of that is work. Disregarding this fact continues to harm the cause of gender equality to this day.
Emotional labor is a thing as well
True. But I assumed the 'work' in the video is more of a narrow version of work, the work that is socially recognized(the kinds of work you exemplified were not considered as work to the majority of people, and still not in many places) and brings social status, also not compensated to the extent that corresponds with the value of their contribution. It was nice to hear something I didn't catch though!
I think it's quite obvious the narrator meant paid employment
Very well said! Gender equality starts with language, so we should be careful how we phrase the things we talk about.
Ughhhh be quiet
a lot of women worked back then, but they weren't recognized as "real" workers they were working without contract or in domestic sphere, so the end of summer is only partially true
A generous interpretation of the summary is that by "work" is meant such work that adds to the GDP and is paid for, not any kind of labor. It's easy to see what the narrator meant, so I don't think this is really an issue.
Brilliant Summary.
Thank you
Legendas em português: Clicas no ícone da engrenagem, legendas, "traduzir automaticamente" e escolher português, fica relativamente bom.
Essa opção só é possível no desktop, né? Pelo smartphone não consegui 😐
Também não consegui 🤔
czcams.com/video/1XIAWoXJAUQ/video.html minha professora traduziu o vídeo com uma qualidade lexica melhor
THANK YOU FOR HELPING ME WITH NHDD LAWL
I miss Macat videos so much. What happened?
Excellent video. Good script, good animation. Concise and clear.
MINDBLOW. Dolls are literally the woman's objectification and we are told to be like this at not even 5 years. To be pretty, unopinionated, and owned, just like a doll. This comparision blows my mind, never ever thought of it.
babies show difference in interested minutes after birth, girls are more interested in faces while boys likes mechanical stuff more
the sex differences only snowball from there - this feminist has denied not only the 12k of hunter gatherer evolution of man being disposable providers and woman staying to build homes, but also the millions of years of sex difference - it is like saying that peacocks females have been socially engenired to not have a pretty tail like males due birdyiarchy
@@Wolcik3000 Shhhhh. You know feminists don't like facts. Here come the pitchforks LOL!
@@Wolcik3000 The thing is that our society evolves and the role of women has changed many times throughout history and it is difficult to talk about what a boy or a girl is supposed to be. I know fathers who raised their children capably while there are others who don't. The stereotypes anti-feminists want to promote oppress everyone.
Yes, women and men are not the same. But still you are talking about averages, and it shouldn't be the rule. Because those "rules" have oppressed women for many years- that is why we want to get rid of them.
Our structure is so complex that is not possible gender roles which were created by society to reflect reality. If they did, women wouldn't do a revolution. Even when women wanted to have the right to vote, some memn claimed that would destroy the "natural order".
It is true that many women spend more money on beauty products than their education but that is because the woman's worth was solely based on her looks, not because that is how we were born but because those ideas were instilled into us.
Even women are not the same. A myriad of different factors play a vital role to the development of our characters.
Asmaa
Nobody told me that ever but ok
some really interesting stuff. I think gender roles are affected by society but I still believe that biological differences are still something that we cant ignore though. They may have just as much of a sway on the differences in the sexes than just some constructed gender role. I'm beginning to wonder if we are putting too much credit into theories like these when we see new studies coming in on Sweden's Nordic Gender paradox. with a more egalitarian society that shows that even trying to make things as equal as possible it actually makes these biological differences have a greater contrast.
interesting
Beauvoir does not ignore gender differences. She says that it is a fact that there are biological differences such as that women are weaker than men. However, she says that these facts do not mean anything exept the meaning that is assigned to them by the society. So, "weakness is weakness only in the light of the aims man sets for himself, the instruments at his disposal, and the laws that he imposes". And I couldn't agree more with that. There are biological differences between men and women, but especially nowadays these differences should not constitute to gender differences. In my opinion, we live in an environment in which we are not dependent on hunting and women can have children and simultaneously a career, therefore there is no need for "traditional" gender roles that rely on biological differences.
@@graci0maci yeah, I'm just saying that we take certain things further than we need to. I agree with not needing traditional gender roles and that we can do so many different things now a days as a man or a women that wouldn't fit into the older established norms. What I dont agree with is when people try and take her work and try to take giant leaps towards conclusions like there's an unlimited number of gender identities and try to separate sex and gender all together. I can see an unlimited amount of gender roles maybe but the other one not so much. Either it is very fascinating to read her stuff and listen to her talk.
Something we have to consider is that the egalitarian society is very new. The majority of human history has had strict gender roles, and culturally that takes time to go away. I say give it a few centuries.
amazingly summarized :D
Bharti Agrawal +
thanks for your work.
When I read it I felt like it was acutely sexist. Maybe it was written to denounce the "women" as a concept opposed to sex. Her theory has a lot to do with how both suffer from the repudiated parts of the self that men and women project onto each other. She prescribes embarrassing the ambiguities of their situation. They warned us before we read it; it was a difficult read.
Caption this in portuguese please! We need to share this in brazil!
com certeza
that was a wonderful presentation! well done!
Anna Gulkar +
Thanks for the video...very helpful.
Thanks so much
5 sec synopsis: 1. "How dare I not take Freud seriously." 2. Subject v. Object.
How to properly feminist
Boys have action figures. Girls have dolls.
Yes, and the esteriotipe for the boys is horrible too.
It leads to toxic masculinity that afects both
@@pixiepf fuck off chica
@@mattlame4976 What? You think only women suffer from sexism in society?
PERIOOOOOOOOD
Ill argue the point that "pressure to look pretty" is far from a social construct, as it can be observed in a vareiety of other species and seems to be more like an evolutionary necessity, deeply ingrained into our minds. Rejecting it would mean rejecting the psychie itself
Then why dont men feel the same pressure to look pretty? I agree, humans naturally want to look good, but women definitely have more cultural pressure to put effort in their appearance than men. Our mistake is not putting the same pressure on guys. Being sexy isnt the end all be all of existence, but its incredibly important for romantic relationships and we sometimes forget that, since i feel like theres also a cultural pressure for us to value personality over looks, and to date someone whos butt ugly just because they have a good personality.
@@meepmoop2308 they do tf?
@@ivanb455 maybe its just where i live but im not seeing it; you'd think guys would be more well groomed if that were true. but i notice your username is a guys' name so i believe you. subjectively from a females experience it feels like guys can get away with being ugly, at least in romantic situations(like you see pretty girls date ugly guys all the time but never the reverse) but my subjective experience is limited. also sorry for the essay im kinda drunk rn(vodka tasty)
@@meepmoop2308 nah it's fine, online convos are fun imo. The pressure to look aesthetically pleasing isnt as harsh on men as it is on women, i agree on that. But there are other types of social pressures guys feel and that does include how they look and act. And it isnt necessarily bad its just part of life. Sorry if what im saying is off topic, i dont really remember the specifics of the video anymore
@@ivanb455 no its ok, tbh i only watched a few seconds of the video
thanks Simone!
For what? Wanting to condone pedophilia?
Wow.. Wt a great summary.
Pow , não sei lê em ingles .
if this book was written by a man, it would definitely be much less criticized. this goes for any other field or occupation.
No it would be more criticized
Delulu
Please, subtitles in Portuguese
Clica no icone da engrenagem, legendas, "traduzir automaticamente" e escolher português, fica relativamente bom.
Tem como legandar para português?
Clica no icone da engrenagem, legendas, "traduzir automaticamente" e escolher português, fica relativamente bom.
Tbm nao consegui
Plz put subtitles in portuguese.
as legendas automáticas tão boas até...
da uma olhada ali em "detalhes" e "tradução automática"
Please, put subtitle dor us that arent English speakers. Thanks.
No mention of the whole childbirth thing
Austin Fritzke yeah she’s glossed over some really key themes
while u guys talked about gender and philosophy... i still think how to make myself become rich.
Rosita Rose then why did you come to this video?
Uma pena não ser legendado
tea!
I just finished reading the original version of "the Second Sex," the one that was just translated into English last year. The book I read had nothing to do with the nonsense that this video presents. The book talks very little about women being constructed, but talks a lot of about women being oppressed both by biology and history. It advocates the modest reforms of allowing women more career choices and sexual freedom.
What you call modest reform were seen, in the French conservative circle of the time, as something out of the social justice warriors league.
I tried to read the book in portuguese version but after read the first chapter i dismissed it. The first chapter is very interesting and talks about but after show a lot of difference between sex, Beauvoir just say "taking a virtual body ...". Hey wait! A virtual body? what it means? we have a virtual body or a physical body? is the autism a virtual disease? the mind is not influenceda by the enviromental? Then i get an overview about the rest of book and abandon it.
Honestly, I can't agree with you. I have heard from autistic people that they are scared and disgusted by the groups made in their interest that intend to eradicate autism altogether. While it can be crippling, it is not for many people with autism. For most of them, they simply have different strengths and weaknesses than usual people. To take someone's differences and call them inferior for being different is a scary thing.
I am reading this book. And the first volume was about oppression of women in history and different myths concerning women. But in the second volume she talks about how girls are raised into being “feminine” and submissive
HOLYSHIT!, thank god someone knows for sure this is bullshit. This is clearly biased and may say naive point of view that the men "created" this mechanism to "control" and "opress" women. This is nonsense. She does not claims that consciously man exerts this kind of mechanism and women are just beings "confused" inmersed with the "big bad boys that opress them and makes her service man". She instead talks, as you mention, that the situation of the woman is determined by history, biology in such complex ways. She doesn't put herself in a "victimary position" about men controlling women. She is more nuanced in her approach.
Read my blog on Simone de Beauvoir which commemorates the 30th anniversary of her passing: abromley91.wordpress.com/2016/04/05/simone-de-beauvoir-conformism-wasnt-her-thing-but-freedom-was/
I wonder what Mme. Beauvoir would say today.
That counts for a man too. Just that the role we have to play is much different, not much more pleasant and I wish some women would have a good look at it.
Felix Cornelius Scipio exactly
Yes that is what i was thinking 🤔
Best books ever
I think what she's trying to say is, the proletariat must seize the means of production!
Sorry, no proper commentary, 2:44 just reminded me a little of communist propaganda posters :D
I think Beauvoir is absolutely right and women should be free to fulfill their potential in whatever way they want, regardless of what society expects from them
What about childbirth? Nothing... really?
What about it bro?
Doesn’t fit the narrative, which is why biology as a whole is ignored.
Childbirth for our survival is important.
The only means of progression of posterity of our species are the female human sapiens.
An ability to be emphasized with appreciation not subjected to beasts of burden.
I love her last name.
Hey, blame Walt disney.
on what? I'm confused
olha só, um homem imbecíl, que grande novidade.
Would if I could lol
Alsovread the swedish gender paradox .. maybe a good footnote to feminisme
Well she spend her life with the great sartre who was totaly devoded to her .. I think she new exacly what true love is but by your ignorance i don't even think you know how sarte was
yasmina zouaimia He's called Sartre.
this is really crazy
All the points in Simone's argument are arguable
yes, but don't discuss them with feminists, they don't like to discuss, they already know everything
@@maximss and they will bash and label you "misogynist"
Such as...
All points in all the philosophers works are usually arguable, to read philosophy one has to put oneself in the mind of the thinker, even if you don't agree with them or you will learn nothing, this is very important if you want to do some serious work, after you become Simone, Nietzsche or Plato then you can try and make a better argument, not before.
This video is poorly summarized, as de Beauvoir makes much better and more universal points than the ones presented for the only purpose of not boring sheltered suburban Anglo women.
I actually think she was doing the right thing; confusing women into existential doubt. I don't like women and I want them to be underneath men. She does a great job at doing this.
WHAT??? Whoever made this video has not read the book!! For goddess' sake people, educate yourselves!!
Do these women actually think men enjoy having to cater to them?
Nailed it
Yang pilih allah like.
ga ada yang mau milih allah :P
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Construct , Culture and Nature . (Relations ) Note: ' Can't You Realize that I'm a man ( He-u-Man ) '
Although I wont deny that she is correct in several points (especially considering her era); a part of her philosophy ignores biological/genetic/neurological differences that not only affect individual behavior; but are different between the sexes. New genetic and neurological research technology should break that political grip it's got on gender theory. Unfortunately it's still gonna be a while, because modern day academia is more interested in pushing political beliefs, over scientific thinking.
+RumbleFish252 May I add I think femininity is basically intrinsic. A female (apart from the biological makeup) would have tendencies and the tendencies are the ones influenced by the social constructs of all sorts around. Second there is the brain of the person that filters, classifies and recognizes what it wants to receive, accept and process + the physical encounters. And in these circumstances, femininity develops as well. Femininity in the 21st century i think is having choices, being beautiful and being independent. I think the destiny she dreamt of is what is enjoyed by most women now. One way or the other she has influenced the way people should perceive.
+Maria Victoria Pineda Sorry I may have read you wrong not being a native speaker, but it sounds to me like you are undoing your own argument regarding the allegedly inherent treat of femininity... Cause you also say that social constructs influence people behavior, which I totally agree with btw. And to +RumbleFish252 you do know that there are no actual difference in the female/male brain, right ? We may develop different genitals (although we both start kinda genderless at early stages of fetus development ) but the innate deference stops there. The whole "women are more sensitive" thing for example, it's a crack. Yes women seem more so, but simply because we are told it's okay to behave in line with what we feel, when boys, from the earliest age, are told not to cry, not to play with certain toys, not to be "girly". In a society where you hear on a daily basis parents telling a little boy that he has to be tough and basically teaching him that being in any way associated with what is perceived as "girl-like" behavior (aka being sensitive, sweet and calmer) is an insult... that's no surprise people genuinely believe those treats are "natural". Because we unconsciously push them on children, even toddlers !
Okay I'm gonna stop now cause this is waaaaaay too long, but I just want to add that, being an anthropology student, I have learnt about so many societies that have adopted another pattern of behaviors altogether, where the main personality treat associated with a gender is the furthest possible from what "we" (obviously I don't : ) ) believe to be natural that there can be no doubt in my mind, the role we give to each gender is culturally created.
Basically, sex is natural, gender is cultural.
Allison B. Part One:
An absolute, or near absolute social construct theory, is outdated and only kept alive because of politics (and no I'm not on the right, nor the left). The same can be said about an absolute biological theory. In reality, everything is a mixture of both social and biological factors.
The brain-difference theory from the mid 1900's was bonkers. Scientists then didn't have the tools to study the brain, and didn't really understand it. And to make it worse, some politicized their reasoning, pushing their views that men and women are crude computers that can only do a list of things, and should not be trusted to do others. Feminists then, also didn't have the tools to study the brain either.
I'll like to point out that even if you were to ignore the brain, differences don't just
stop at the genitals. Men on average obviously have much bigger skeletal muscle structure than women. This affects our differences in physical roles.
Allison B. Part Two (there's way more on each part of the brain, but these are good examples):
"The Brains of men exhibit a far smaller degree of interconnectedness, both within and across the hemispheres, than do those of women"
"The findings of Ingahalikar et al. do indeed point to a greater degree of modular function in the physical architecture of the male brain and of interconnectedness in physical architecture of the female brain."
"Kovalev et al. (4) found extremely large sex differences in the “texture” of white matter (an index of the orderliness of fibers within the tracts)"
www.pnas.org/content/111/2/577.full.pdf
"Females use the posterior temporal lobes more bilaterally during linguistic processing of global structures in a narrative than males do" (subjects were tested by listening to stories)
"The increased activation in the right hemisphere was found to be significant only in males, not in females further suggesting that the function of the right hemisphere in language processing is sex-dependant"
www.zielinskifam.com/lit/gumc_nsci_papers/sexdiff_lang.pdf (includes brain activity pictures)
"Canli et al. [4] and Cahill et al. [5] demonstrated sex-related hemispheric lateralization of amygdala function in recognition memory for previously learned emotionally arousing pictures: amygdala activation was more left lateralized in women and right lateralized in men. This pattern of asymmetrical amygdala activation was confirmed by Killgore and Yurgelun-Todd [6] who tested the perception of positive facial affect."
"The authors were able to show that women relied on landmark cues only, whereas men used both landmarks and geometric information in a computerized version of the Morris water maze."
dept.wofford.edu/neuroscience/NeuroSeminar/pdfSpring2009/frings2006_gender-related%20differences.pdf
"Regardless of sexual orientation, men had almost twice as many somatostatin neurons as women (P < 0.006). The number of neurons in the BSTc of male-to-female *transsexuals* was similar to that of the females (P = 0.83)."
"Hormone treatment or sex hormone level variations in adulthood did not seem to have
influenced BSTc neuron numbers. The present findings of somatostatin neuronal sex
differences in the BSTc and its sex reversal in the transsexual brain clearly support the
paradigm that in transsexuals sexual differentiation of the brain and genitals may go into opposite directions and point to a neurobiological basis of gender identity disorder."
press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jcem.85.5.6564#sthash.Y9VfjyVf.dpuf
Allison B. Part three (sorry, I know this is way too long):
"Study examined the concentration of mothers’ peripherally produced oxytocin after close physical interactions with their biological and non-biological children."
"Among adult humans, oxytocin has been associated with aspects of maternal care including attachment related thoughts and feelings during toward infants at pre-natal and post-partum time points"
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2953948/
"Oxytocin levels at early pregnancy and the postpartum period were related to a clearly defined set of maternal bonding behaviors, including gaze, vocalizations, positive affect, and affectionate touch; to attachment-related thoughts; and to frequent checking of the infant. Across pregnancy and the postpartum period, oxytocin may play a role in the emergence of behaviors and mental representations typical of bonding in the human mother."
www.researchgate.net/publication/5886519_Evidence_for_a_Neuroendocrinological_Foundation_of_Human_Affiliation_Plasma_Oxytocin_Levels_Across_Pregnancy_and_the_Postpartum_Period_Predict_Mother-Infant_Bonding
"Oxytocin facilitates accurate perception of competition in men and kinship in women"
"An interaction between treatment, task category and sex indicated that OT had a selective effect on improving kinship recognition in women, but not in men, whereas men's performance was improved following OT only for competition recognition."
intl-scan.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2012/03/24/scan.nsr100.full
"testosterone also influences the structure of the hippocampus, specifically CA1 and CA3
areas of the hippocampus, as well as the amygdala. These brain areas are designed to convert information from short-term into long-term memory."
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23306974
"It has been known for some time that higher testosterone is linked to smaller vocabulary in children and that verbal fluency skills decrease in female-to-male transsexuals after testosterone treatment."
www.ecnp.eu/~/media/Files/ecnp/About%20ECNP/Press/AMS2015/Hahn%20PR%20FINAL.pdf?la=en
White feminism , but still great. Black women always have worked.
Racist.. What about us Philippino women. You're so mean
Work is always better than running a front for pedophilia in your writing career.
You shouldn't put it that way because *French feminism doesn't care about race* but rather class and political identity;
because it's the *Anglo-American variant* that is *so intersectional* that it is practically just *white female supremacy.*
If I had only been alive during her era, I would have spent my entire time discrediting all of her ideas.
I am sure that you would have destroyed de Beauvoir's reputation as a writer, thinker, feminist and a figure of international cultural and literary significance. Thank goodness, whispers Simone in her non-existent atheist heaven, that the intellect of Monsieur Gonzalez was not unleashed upon her work and reputation.
@@charcolew she's a failure of a thinker.
@@drewgonzales6969 In what way exactly does her thinking fail. You have said this twice, time for some evidence.
please let me know if you would be ok with not allowing make-up at work?
Objectification my ass
this lunatic has been debunked by reality - maybe when she was writting it she could dream to be something more, but not every woman is Sklodowska
Feminity is not bad. I am a man and I love sexy feminine women. However, it does not mean that I expect them to submit to the regressive social norms. I support liberal feminism, this radical view in The Second Sex is problematic. Women absolutely have some inherent attributes of femininity from birth. If a woman does not conform to feminity that is normal, if a woman relishes her feminity that is also good.
This problematic radical views against and for feminity are completely nonsensical.
What is this "feminity" that troubles you so much? De Beauvoir talks of the objectification of women and there you go, objectifying away. Plus, if you support liberal feminism, how can the "radical" side of it be "completely nonsensical"?
If women want to be the dominant sex, why not be upfront about it?
I was most definitely *BORN* a woman. My XX chromosomes make it so.
Beauvoir's definition of what a woman is rejects a biological explanation. She doesn't deny that there are biological differences, she just says that it's not the biology that makes you into what she calls a woman. Rather, you become a woman by being othered by a dominant class. Her definition excludes other othered groups, such as Jews, because she thinks there's no historical basis for this othering, unlike with Jews or the poor or any other class of perceived secondary citizens.
She say's good stuff and bad stuff. Women should be given equal rights, and that's legit. Some of her criticism of the way marriages were being played out were legit, but her advocacy of doing away with the institution of marriage entirely is civilizationaly destructive idea.Also, the idea that women aren't born women is silly.... Define "woman" with a REAL definition, then prov me wrong.
Richard Wise she is not against marriage according to text, what De Bovouair enphasized is the subaltern role of the woman in the marriage, a consequence of historic patriacarlism.
When someone loves you, the way they talk about you is different. You feel safe and comfortable.
Blá-blá-blá
Bullshit
Olha só, um homem retardado, que grande novidade!
Bullshit.
This is the denial of human nature discussed by Pinker etc
cringe
I have to say thats pretty impressive for a girl!
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