7mm Remington Mag vs 300 Weatherby Mag: Magnum Madness Part 7
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- In this video I compare the 7mm mag vs the 300 WBY mag. I talk a little history, the ballistics for each and how they compare to each other. Please remember to vote for one by commenting below. Thanks for watching!
I used to be in a 1000 yard bench rest club, I used both of those rifles but for some reason I did far better with the Weatherby. I used 180 grain Berger in the 7mm and 215 Berger in the 300. I don't know why I did much better with the 300 but I suspect it might be heat related. I think the 300 having a better expansion ratio got rid of the heat faster. The 7mm Rem is very accurate up to about 12 shots but I was shooting up to 16 shots during the competitions. If I was hunting with one, it would depend on the size of the game. If you do your own loading the 300 is not too expensive.
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I think the 7mm Mag is more practical, and probably what I’d personally rather have. However, if your going to pick a case based on the belted H&H, you might as well go full length and full power. I vote for 300 Weatherby
Wahoo! You picked the right cartridge
One of my uncles use to have three big game cartridges: a 300 Weatherby Mag, a 7MM Rem Mag and a 280 Remington. He said he could cover all big game species in North America with the 300 but felt it was best suited to game at least as big as bull elk. The 7MM Rem Mag was his favorite for the lower 48 since it was a great elk and muley cartridge. His take on the 280 was it’s great for mule deer and antelope so why not have one? My favorite between the two you’ve shown is the 7MM Rem Mag for the reasons my uncle mentioned.
It's a classic!
I am going with 7mm Rem Mag. I bought my Father a 300 Weatherby years ago. I have had opportunity to get 300 & 30-378 over 7 Mag but have always chosen the 7. That 300 is definitely a good bit more powerful. But anything in North America & all the plains animals in Africa can be easily harvested with the 7 even at decent distances. So I got to go 7 Rem. Mag.
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.300 Weatherby hands down. .270 Winchester can do what the 7mm can do. Just a bigger bang than the .270
This is very tough because both are great rounds....however if I had to pick one I would go with the 300 Weatherby. Just can't argue with the performance.
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I hunted USA about 50 years. I have hunted Africa 8 times. In that time I have used 300 WBY, 308 Winchester, 7mm Rem. Magnum,30-06, 444 Marlin, 243, and 7x57. When it comes to effect on game, they all did the same thing. Dead. Use the right bullet for the right game and they're all good.
I vote for the 300wby. My old German made V gives me confidence in the woods and plains. It is in a different league here.
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Another fine production out of the Hornady reloading book! Lol!
Hell even Weatherby chambers for the 7mm Rem Mag. They know a good thing when they see it.
I vote for the 300 Weatherby. I have a Mark V Weathermark model. I also have a 7mm Rem Mag. But, if I could only pick one of the two, the Bee all the way! More versatile. It can do anything the 7mm Rem can do and a lot more.
Thanks for voting John
I like the 7Mag. Its about as old as I am. The 300 does everything the 7mag can and ever could. But the 7mag has more class to me.
But HANDS DOWN, the Gentleman's magnum is the 300 H&H!!
I agree, 300 H&H is the gentleman's magnum
@Jess Hadlock 🙏🙏🙏♥️. Preferably a early super grade!!
7mm Rem Mag for me. Availability of both ammo and rifles, along with good performance without punishing recoil. However, my personal favorite 7mm cartridge is the 7mm-08.
Thanks Pat
A better choice is 7mm Weatherby mag.
I own both and like both for all applications
Without question the 300 weatherby is a bitch on the shoulder but I took an 11 point giant last week up hear in newbruswick Canada that pushed well over 300 pounds live weight and field dressed 255 when you're shooting a giant of this caliber of deer in my situation I never felt a thing from the 300 magnum, maybe a little discomfort after the shot but o my I was worth it, big animals of this size need to be stopped in there tracks to keep from a long drag out of the woods, another reason I like the 300 weatherby.
As someone that isn't a fan of Remington and an owner of a 300 Wby my vote goes Wby. And the fact the 7mm Wby is better than the Rem ballistically also confirms the 300 for me. More kick, but more performance also. This is like comparing a Prius to a Mustang. Anyone who votes 7mm Rem is also voting Prius!
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@Jess Hadlock 6.5 Creedmoor is a bicycle. Its junk and not worthy of being in the conversation. I still say the 7 mag is a Prius. Weatherbys all day 👍
@Jess Hadlock definitely! Creedless not Creedmore 🤢🤮
The incremental advantage of the 7MM Weatherby Mag over the 7MM Rem Mag is negligible. The real winner in the 7MM Mag race is the 28 Nosler.
@@nmelkhunter1 pretty sure the RUM has the 28 Nosler beat, as would the 7mm STW
I'm voting for the 300. The only reason that I am doing that is strictly performance. There is nothing that the 7mm cant do. On both ends you have a good bullet selection. The 7mm is easier to get ammo for than the 300. The biggest factor is the cost. That is going to be the deciding factor for most people. Good video.
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6.5 creedmoor beats them both.
Lol in all seriousness, are these two cartridges even in the same bracket?
Yes they are, better put in your vote for the 7mm Rem mag.... it's about to get ugly
Lol you’re stirring it up! Love it.
My first instinct is to vote for the rem mag as it's versatile and approachable for most, but in the spirit of magnum madness I'll vote for the 300 Wby, the first 30 cal mag I ever wanted to add to my safe.
Good choice!
I have always loved the 7mm rem and my grandpa had a really nice one.cost is 7mm rem but to really reach out and touch game,the 300wthby.my vote 300wthby mag
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I hunted with the 7mm for for 38 years ,and I have had great success, I have bought a 300 Weatherby mag and I believe I love it more I don't like buying bullet for the 300 both are grate rounds
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My vote is for the 7mm rem mag. Now the problem with the 7 mag is that you can’t get the full potential out of it unless you reload. For some reason, factory loads are way underpowered. I have no idea why 7mm rem mag is loaded so underpowered by the factories, but it is. The 300 weatherby mag is loaded a lot closer to it’s potential with factory ammo so if you don’t reload, I think the 300 is probably the better option. But if you do reload, the 7 rem mag beats just about every other caliber out there when taking into consideration all factors such as energy, velocity, wind deflection, retained energy down range, drop, etc.
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my father in law had 7mm Sako just beautiful shooting rifle. one day looking in paper turners had them on sale for $399. I drove all way Fri night to long Beach and grabbed one. got lucky with the walnut stock. I put coco bolo with ivory spacer on forend. shot better than I did .. 125 in @ 100. later cryo treated and bedded it. trigger fine at 4 lbs. took lots of pig and few deer. going leave it to my daughter and future grandchildren
Sounds like an awesome rifle!
No comparison here, 300 Weatherby mag. Trapper scotty, Alaskan
Thanks for your vote Scott
Can't go wrong with either of these gems. However, I would give the nod to my .300 Weatherby Lazermark. I love my 7mag Vanguard but when it literally comes to bang for the buck, Daddy Weatherby's most popular caliber option is hard to beat by any comparison.
Yep
I don't think the 7mm rem mag offers much gain over the 30-06 based cartriges, but the real issue is that if one wants a lightweight backcountry rifle then the 300 wby magnum is too much recoil without a muzzle brake. However, it would be tough to make the case that the 7mm rem mag is better than the 300 wby mag as an ideal elk hunting cartridge.
Guess I'm not into the hunting craze of really light rifles.
I have to go with the 7 rem. Mag. Fantastic caliber and of course the cost of ammo is so much cheaper than weatherby.
Hurting my feelings Gunman... haha
@@ReloadingWeatherby sorry bro., I had to go that way.
I actually found some 300 wby over the weekend for 53 bucks at scheels.
Yeah, you can find Norma ammo for around $50
@@ReloadingWeatherby This was wby factory ammo but it was the silver box. They had a load of 180 gr soft points.
@@Nick-sx6jm Nice, I've heard most rifles really like the 180 gr Interlock
Both are great cartridges I've got a 7mm rem mag and I really like shootin it its in an under-rated budget rifle in my opinion the TC Venture 2 but I haven't killed anything with it yet but im excited to this comin deer season everyone I know that hunts loves a "7 mag"
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German 300 Weatherby, 1:12 twist, 180 gr Nosler Accubond, 84.5 gr IMR 7828, Fed 215 primer. Great elk medicine. 7mm Remington Mag, 175 gr ABLR, 62.5 gr RL 22 works pretty well too.
Both are really good
I was surprised this video is only months old. The prices you list don’t reflect the prices here in central Wa. 300 wby rem core loks are $110 here! My poor weatherby is a gun safe princess now and my 7 mags are my go to’s because of the price of ammo. Hand loading is pretty much the only option if you plan to shoot anything with that beautiful Weatherby name on the head stamp of a cartridge.
Try finding Norma ammo. It's a really good bullet that cost $49
@@ReloadingWeatherby I love Norma ammo. I’m really intrigued with the bond strike bullet. I think the bc’s might be a little exaggerated, but I’d love to shoot the 165 in my 7’s and the 180 in our weatherbys.
I’m picking 300 wby. Lots of hunters in Colorado do not consider the 7mm rem to be a mag.
Thanks Tom
If you already own a 7mm Mag and felt you need more power. I would skip over the 300 Weatherby to a 340 Weatherby. If not get the 300 Weatherby.
7mmmag is my vote. Cost and availability matter so much. Yes the 300 is faster and all but so is a tank shooting cannon. The 7mm can more then get the job done and does it very well. The added recoil costs and availability are to much for me to vote for the 300
That's fair
.300 Roy ftw
WBY can't imagine life without a 300 bee
I couldn't.....
7 mag. I think it really is the most versatile do-it-all big game chambering out there. It can be downloaded to 7mm-08 performance or pushed to run with the 300 win mag.
Thanks for voting Chad!
I have shot both hunting elk. After 3 big bull kills, the only one left in my safe is the 300 Weatherby Magnum. When less than perfect conditions exist, or shots are on the ethical long side the Weatherby is up to the task……. Extra power is there if you need it, why not shoot the most powerful cartridge you can competently handle?
Amen
300 Weatherby all day, I love the 7 Rem mag, but the Weatherby is something special.
I agree
300 weatherby all the way! I like to hunt in Alaska. I don't want to end up on the menu. So given the choice of these fine two cartridges I'll take the 300. I would feel even better with a 340. You can always take a smaller animal with a larger cartridge with no I'll effect, but not the other way around.
Thanks Bob, we think alike
I have a 71’ build Weatherby Mark V 7mm southpaw…been to Alaska on numerous occasions….Grizzly Moose Elk…all one shot kills except for one moose that needed a second….it’s all about shot placement…thats what kept my freezer full…take a bow Roy
300 Weatherby, it's a powerhouse
What the fudge my friend! Next you will want me to choose between my kids. I don’t even know how to respond! If I must, I am going to go 300 Wby because of the company, the rifles and because Roy was an innovator. That said, I still love you 7mm.
Sorry for the hard choice
My vote is for the 7mm rem mag extremely accurate round with plenty of knock down, cost and availability of ammo is better. But if we were talking straight up horsepower it would be 300roy 💪🏻
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I hunt with and reload for the 7mm rem mag and people just are not giving the 7 mag the credit it deserves. My hunting load that I use and have personally chronographed on 2 separate chronos is the 162 grn eld-x and I’m getting right at 3200 fps with reloder 26(out of my 26” barrel). The bc on this bullet is .63 and at 3200fps the muzzle energy comes out right at 3700ft/lbs. At 500 yards, the bullet is still traveling 2465fps and has 2185fpe with only 21” drop with a 300yd zero. At 1000, the bullet is traveling 1826fps and has 1200fpe and only drops 188”. Now, I still will agree that with factory loads, the 7 mag is way underpowered, but if you hand load, the difference between these two cartridges is a lot less and the 7mag even beats the 300 weatherby in retained velocity, energy, and drops less from about the 800 yard mark on. My results with the 7 mag are not a fluke either because I have also used retumbo and got even higher velocities of about 3240fps, but the accuracy was better with reloder 26 and so that’s why I use it instead of retumbo. Also, my hunting partner also has a 7 mag with a 26” barrel and he got basically identical results as I did as we test fired our loads with retumbo and reloder 26 through both of our rifles the same day.
Impressive! Be careful sharing that, I once said that the 7mm Rem Mag could get 2970 FPS with a 175 gr bullet(Nosler book velocity). I had a guy promptly tell me I could never get that velocity. In this comparison I was specifically using factory ammo. 7mm mag really benefits from handloading it. I haven't tried any of the really high B.C. bullets in my 300 WBY. But I did get 3166 FPS with a 200 gr Accubond which gives you 4452 ft.lbs of energy at the muzzle and 2522 ft.lbs at 500 yards. Now if you handloaded the 300 WBY with some of the high B.C. bullets it would still be faster and more energy than your 7mm mag 162 ELD-X load at 1,000 yards, but it would be really close with the velocity. Thanks for sharing!
@@ReloadingWeatherby yes the 300 weatherby is a great cartridge and I don’t even have a problem with it winning over the 7. I just hate that the 7 is so underloaded by the factory and that people sell it so short when it’s truly a very impressive cartridge deserving much more respect that I think it gets.
@@matrix5175 I agree! It's why I made a video debunking the 6.8 Western claim that it could outperform the 7mm mag.
@@ReloadingWeatherby For anyone that does question whether those velocities are attainable or whether you can get 2970 with a 175 grn bullet like you mentioned, obviously there are all kinds of resources online that anyone can research. But I went digging through my books because I remember reading that these kinds of velocities were possible years ago in one of my hunting books. I found the book I remembered reading and wanted to list it here for reference as well. The book is Rifle Guide by Sam Fadala copyright from back in 1993. On page 152, He specifically mentions those types of velocities and also mentions them again throughout the chapter titled “the all around hunting rifle” that starts on page 165.
300 Weatherby!
90 $ a box aint bad try 190$ for 30-378 but pay to play right
Yeah.... you've got to reload
I have one 7 mm rem mag and three 300 weatherby magnums. The 7 mag stays in the safe.
300 Weatherby I guess....
300 Weatherby owns very impressive ballistics but for all practical purposes, 7mag is plenty of rifle out to 500 yards with exception of Grizz. I live in SE USA. If I lived out west, maybe vote differently. Thanks
So your vote is the 7mm mag?
Do you like Weatherby's?
Yeah
Better comparison would be 7mm STW. Based on same length case, comes in 26 inch barrel, factory rifles are about the same price wise. Both are reload projects. Compare this to 300.
My viewers voted for these two too be compared.
@@ReloadingWeatherby True, but the comparison is apples to oranges. Having used all 3 at one time or another I can say all 3 are field quality. The problem arises ( not really a problem) when trying to match velocity with 24 inch barrel against 26 on the weatherby and overall case capacity. Plus recoil from 300 is entering into the picture. That and amount of time in the field. Weatherby has been around much longer than either 7mm. STW is a cult caliber, not a rifle for everyone, but then niether is the Weatherby. As a reader of your's the side by side picture tells me that the Rem Mag, for all it's attractions, is still at a disadvantage. Thanks for the video.
7mm rem mag. All the way. I have Tikka in 7mm rem mag and a sako in 300 win mag.The 300 beats me up. I can’t imagine what 300 wheatherby would be like.
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I've been buying boxes of 300 for $55 online
The 300 Weatherby smokes the 7mm Rem Mag. I own 7mm mag but not a 300 mag. I do not need the power of a 300Weatherby.
I love 7's, but im voting for the 300 Weatherby
Thanks for voting Drew
A 30-06 will shoot a 150 GR 3100 FPS there is a load for 3100 FPS in the third edition HORNADY loading book.
Fastest twist is 1:8”
Weatherby is in its own class of calibers and quality of its own, and beats all common man hunting class of rifles. That being said ill go with the 7rem mag due to affordability and availibility.
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I have had both and I got rid of the 300wby. because price of components I could load 100 7mm mag for the same price as 30 300wby. But still have regretted selling it ever since
Hope you got a good gun out of selling your 300 Weatherby
@@ReloadingWeatherby I got a really nice 7mm08 and a leupold vx5 for my 7mag. 7mm08 just made a lot more sense because I hunt on Florida ,Georgia South Carolina. But I probably will get another one or a 340yby one day if I ever get to go elk hunting. Mine was a custom 700 single feed heavy barrel wasn’t what I would like to take elk hunting anyway
300 Weatherby all day long.The 7mm is a fine cartridge,but it's hard to beat the raw power of the 300.As far as bullets,to me,magnums are made to shoot the heavier bullets better and faster,and in that regard,the 300 wins hands down.200-220 gr. 30cals are a lot more bullet than a 160-175 7mm.If I'm buying either one of these,I'm looking at what maximum performance will be on all size of legal game,and the 300 Weatherby is by far the most useful of the two.As far as recoil,the Weatherby can still be shot well with practice,and becomes a non concern,and let's be honest,in the field,you don't notice it.So my vote is for the Weatherby,there's nothing on this earth that can't be taken with it better than the 7mm.
Good logic! Thanks for voting
It's like trying to choose between your own children... Hmm. I'll go 7mm, even though I still haven't shot it. Imo the most versatile mag ever made.
I feel betrayed
@@ReloadingWeatherby don't get me wrong the .300wby is the best performance magnum, but I'll bet I'm gonna grab the 7 mag more often.
300 WBY
Good choice
7mm rem mag for me.
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300 wby. It’s the original do all magnum. Comes in the best guns too matched to the ammo. Shot a few Caribou and many moose with 180 trophy bonded bear claws. Big holes. 3150 fps. Both are overkill for deer anyway unless it’s western mule deer. 300 wby dominates for big North American game and large African plains game. 300 wby will win.
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300 Weatherby Magnum
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Definitely the 7mm Rem Mag
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7mm rem mag is my choice but their is nothing wrong with the good old 300 weatherby!
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7mm rem mag for sure
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IMHO.. there is really no comparison. The 300 Weatherby eats its lunch. The 300 Weatherby all day everyday!
1 and done💥🦌🥩
Boom!
7mm For me .
No! Haha just kidding
@@ReloadingWeatherby LOL I love the 300weatherby but had to go with 7mm slightly .
300 wby more versatile can take deer and much better for the big bears than the 7mm
I agree Josh
I got a 7mm rem mag 300wby and 338win 300wby is my favorite of the 3
😎👍👍👍😎
7 mag
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.300 roy
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300 Weatherby mag
Good choice
300weatherby
Good choice
7mm mag for the W
Thanks for the vote
300 weatherby mag
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7 mm mag
Dang
7 rem mag
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Its a tie
This isn't soccer! You have to choose one
@@ReloadingWeatherby Ok, then I choose the 7mm Rem Mag just because it allows building a slightly lighter rifle. If only ballistics were taken in consideration I would have chosen the .300 Wby mag. By the way, Ruger Hawkeyes chambered in 7mm Rem Mag come with a 1:8 twist barrel.
7 mag will beat the brakes off any 30
How so?
@@ReloadingWeatherby it’s call simple mathematics
@@jasonharmon4314 The only thing the 7 mag beats the 300 Weatherby at is less recoil.
@@ReloadingWeatherby 190 grain Atip at long range, keep dreaming lol
@@jasonharmon4314 Not dreaming... just ran the numbers out to 2000 yards. 300 Weatherby still beats the 7 mag with the 190 gr A-tip. I'm using a 230 gr A-tip and the Weatherby still has less drop and less windage. Though the windage is close.
But since the 300 Weatherby isn't even the top dog.... Your 7 mag would get crushed by the 30-378 Weatherby, and that's with a 26 inch barrel. Put a 30 inch barrel on the 30-378 and you can push a 250 gr A-tip 3200 FPS. czcams.com/video/jZKmQkh6CaE/video.html
7mm rem mag
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Thhe 7mm weatherby mag is better than the other two.
That's a good one