Another results video of cleaning my Junk Silver with a rock tumbler. Check out the up close before and after, and let me know if you believe there is any harm to the value of the coins.
1964 Kennedys are generally only worth melt unless they grade at a high MS, and 1963 is a SUPER common Franklin year... He didn't hurt anything but the feelings of some numismatists by doing this... and now his coins look how HE wants them to look. Do your thing man, don't let the haters get to you.
CharmingLiberalScum We aren’t haters, people don’t like this because there is a limit on how much 90% is around, the government isn’t just gonna start making more, if you want nice and shiny, buy 9999 fine!
@@jasonsellon4270 Astounding to me. It's private property that doesn't belong to you nor does it belong to "society at large" which you are apparently trying to argue. BILLIONS of these coins have been minted and melted by the mint over the years so you're gonna protest over a handful??
I really appreciated the final zoomed analysis at the end. It clearly showcases how this technique employs minimal damage to the coins. I support both viewpoints when it comes to cleaning Constitutional silver (i.e., cleaners and purists), but if you're going to use a cleaning method this is easily one of the BEST I've seen online to date. Cheers!
Who made up that dumb rule to never clean numismatic coins? Or any silver at all...? Seems such a rule was a joke on the gullible. Silver is one of the most gorgeous metals... and the most reflective. Why would anyone not want to experience that amazing quality? You paid plenty for it... Enjoy the sh¡t out of it if you damn please...
My daughter has a small rock tumbler, and the burnishing beads took 3 weeks to come, but I finally converted $14 face in Roosevelt dimes and non-numi Washington quarters to some awesomely pretty shiny. *Thanks for showing the two tumbling step process with Tarn-X in between, it works fantastically!* I hope that this is a short lived hobby and the silver price gets to where it should be. But for now, I'm going to process as much junk into Constitutional as I can, before the price gets to the minimum where it should be @$75. 1980 gold peak ~$800, current price ~$1200 1980 silver peak ~$50 current price should be at minimum $75 Federal law states that silver is valued at 1/16 of silver by weight. 1 T.O. of Au = 16 T.O. of Ag U.S. Federal Law doesn't mean $hit to banksters. 1/16 of the $1200 gold price is $75 That $75 is a minimum because it is ignoring the very positive silver supply market fundamentals which that have developed over the intervening 37 years, market fundamentals that favor silver, not gold.
You should try the TarnX in the Rock tumbler ...LOL.. Just saying.... :P Man you got some beautiful coins for sure I bet the kids or grand kids love them. I love showing my silver off to the kids and grandkids. Since I am only concerned with melt value on most of them I love it...:)
First off I'd like to say that I enjoy the shiny stuff. Kinda gets me about all the negative comments about cleaning junk silver, I don't see the harm.. after all its junk right? Never going to be graded or spend the rest of its life in a coin holder.. shine on man !!
I clean everything, because it’s MINE. I paid for it so I will do what ever the hell I want with it. 50 years of sweat and skin grease YUK. clean EM up good.
it's lovely to see you enjoying your junk silver cleaning and sharing with us.... They look gorgeous all cleaned up and ready for melt into bars or whatever you might like.... or... just to look at beautiful clean shiny coins worth their weight in the silver content they have.... It makes me think I might buy some junk silver instead of just collecting new bullion and collectors coins. Bravo to you for sharing!
surprised theirs not a geologist in this chat all pissed off he's not using his rock polisher right. and then another geologist all mad because someone would clean a rock because of its historic value...lol
Christian Hubbs Dude these coins are 50+ years old and have been in circulation. They are already scratched up. You won't be adding any. Just exposing what was already there.
Lionel, I have tumbled my junk silver coins for years. My tumbler has a clear "plastic" barrel so I can watch the action. I tumble in water, dish detergent and jeweler's shot for an hour... twice. (no Tarn-ex or the like) HERE'S THE DEAL... The first pass in the tumbler seems to knock off around 99% of the grime. The water in the tumbler becomes muddy brown AND there is a silver shimmer to it. I don't know how much of the silver from 200 or more coins is suspended in that brown glop but there is some. Not enough to worry about, I'm sure.
+Joe Gonzales Straight Dawn dish soap. I used a bit more than a drop, maybe 1 teaspoon. Combine with ~1 lb of steel shot and water to cover in the tumbler. Thank you for watching
I can not believe the ignorance I have read in replies to both videos. "Junk Silver" by definition is any silver coin which holds NO NUMISMATIC VALUE. It is simply bought and sold at it's weight in silver. No premium attached to it. There is no value other than melt (silver value by weight). Go to your local coin shop, ask to look at 90% "junk" constitutional silver. Ask how much. You will be told face value plus it's weight in silver, and if any extra for shop fees. If you want a coin worth collecting, turn to the glass case in the same store. No, you do not "clean" any coin that carries a premium over face value. However, in this case, he has lost no money by any way. It is "Junk Silver " as he stated. All "Junk Silver" is worn past any numismatic value and carries NO PREMIUM other than it's weight in silver. Don't believe it...go to a coin shop to see his "Junk Silver " and when he/she brings out a plastic bin stacked full of over worn coins of all denomination you will understand. If it carried any value over weight, it would be in its own holder under a lighted case next to you. As far a selling if need be, of course he will only get weight value minus buyers shop fees, but he will get silver content value nothing more as junk silver is sold as just that. Clean on. They look great and are just silver, nothing more.
Totally agree. I clean my junk silver because it's disgusting when I buy it from my lcs. Sticky and stinks. Why in the hell would you want to hold that. The shinier the better for me.
I remember reading about a fancy hotel out west back in the day. They regularly cleaned their coins so that their patrons fingers would not get dirty from handling dirty coins.
Sorry, don’t really care about the perceived value of “constitutional silver”, but come on, these coins were meant to look like this...shiney, shimmering, glistening in the light. It makes my juices flow just looking at em’ in this “perfect looking” state. CLEAN ON my fine friend, and keep showing us the reflective beauty.
Paranoid, There doesn't need to be much logic involved in this process. The only bit of logic needed is to look through the stack for collectables before cleaning. The rest are melt value and making them pretty or keeping them grungy is just personal preference and it doesn't matter.
The coins are his, he can do what he likes. They DO look much more attractive clean, I see the point in cleaning them....I like shiny, too. The drawback would be the amount of abrasion that much have occurred during the tumbling....
Poor lots of Baking Soda and warm water into a glass baking pan and Rub the coins hard with saturated baking soda on the coins front and back with your fingers one coin at a time for about 90 seconds ...it's amazing what a difference that makes , it's the poor mans way , but it works, especially with Franklin's and Kennedy's !!
Almost prooflike - that's the problem. These coins were never made to look prooflike. This makes them look unrealistically reflective, and scratches them and certainly decreases the value for all but the dirtiest of them. I would only ever do a less rigorous version of this without the steel bits on very dirty coins that were in a low uncirculated or AU condition, as worn coins look ridiculous all buffed and shiny and reflective, and maybe with near-uncirculated coins, the cleaning can at least add a bit of visual appeal to otherwise relatively invaluable coins.
Coin collector here. I can tell you this: I would NEVER buy coins like these, even if they were only at melt. Silver coins are very collectible and I buy a lot of them. The silver content is only part of the reason why. Tarnish and wear gives a coin history, and it makes it feel more authentic. That's one reason I buy it. I respect that you may prefer your coins shiny, but you are really going to have a hard time selling it, they even almost look fake! Maybe you're not necessarily lowering the silver value, but you're sure ruining the coins. Think about valuable errors or varieties you could have overlooked while polishing it, too! If you really want shiny coins, buy actual bullion, not historical silver.
that is your perspective in your world. some of us are just stacking bullion and do not care about the collectable end of it. A dealer is not sending you anything good when you buy a bag of junk silver. I like to remove the century worth of dead skin and boogers that are on it. I trade some in when i need to and get 1% below spot as does anything else that is traded in. If these coins were collectable, chances are that he would have paid a collectable price for them and then would obviously not clean the coins. But again, not all of us are collectors
I don't trust constitutional silver that is too clean. It's not a question of melt value, it's a question of chinese fakes and other shady stuff. Real junk silver is almost always a little busted up and dirty. Yeah, this guy has legit stuff but how am I, a potential buyer, supposed to know that?
YoloBagels It's still money and still history idiot. Money is the most filthy thing on this planet people handle on a daily basis next to cell phones and remote controls. Get a grip. It's worth the same cleaned as disgusting.
Cleaning like that doesnt make it worth more. Coin dealer can tell if it cleaned or not and they do not like cleaned coin. They would pay you the price of weight in silver. They don't care about how dirty it, only the wear on the coin like hair line. Again never clean it.
You're missing the point. The lcs is going to pay you the same whether it's cleaned or not. Clean up that junk. You have no idea where or what it's been in. A buck forty face is an oz of silver. That's it.
This is the absolute worst thing you can do to 90% silver coins. Before you tumbled them they had a collector value and a silver value. Now they only have a silver value any collectability they had is gone. If Franklin halves go up in price (coin collecting can be trendy) yours have no collector value now, just the silver content
1964 Kennedys are generally only worth melt unless they grade at a high MS, and 1963 is a SUPER common Franklin year... He didn't hurt anything but the feelings of some numismatists by doing this... and now his coins look how HE wants them to look. Do your thing man, don't let the haters get to you.
CharmingLiberalScum We aren’t haters, people don’t like this because there is a limit on how much 90% is around, the government isn’t just gonna start making more, if you want nice and shiny, buy 9999 fine!
@@jasonsellon4270 Astounding to me. It's private property that doesn't belong to you nor does it belong to "society at large" which you are apparently trying to argue. BILLIONS of these coins have been minted and melted by the mint over the years so you're gonna protest over a handful??
They're much nicer when they're shiny. Thanks for sharing!
I really appreciated the final zoomed analysis at the end. It clearly showcases how this technique employs minimal damage to the coins. I support both viewpoints when it comes to cleaning Constitutional silver (i.e., cleaners and purists), but if you're going to use a cleaning method this is easily one of the BEST I've seen online to date. Cheers!
Looks fantastic Tim! Great job! Thank you!
Who made up that dumb rule to never clean numismatic coins? Or any silver at all...? Seems such a rule was a joke on the gullible. Silver is one of the most gorgeous metals... and the most reflective. Why would anyone not want to experience that amazing quality? You paid plenty for it... Enjoy the sh¡t out of it if you damn please...
I agree
My daughter has a small rock tumbler, and the burnishing beads took 3 weeks to come, but I finally converted $14 face in Roosevelt dimes and non-numi Washington quarters to some awesomely pretty shiny.
*Thanks for showing the two tumbling step process with Tarn-X in between, it works fantastically!*
I hope that this is a short lived hobby and the silver price gets to where it should be.
But for now, I'm going to process as much junk into Constitutional as I can,
before the price gets to the minimum where it should be @$75.
1980 gold peak ~$800, current price ~$1200
1980 silver peak ~$50 current price should be at minimum $75
Federal law states that silver is valued at 1/16 of silver by weight.
1 T.O. of Au = 16 T.O. of Ag
U.S. Federal Law doesn't mean $hit to banksters.
1/16 of the $1200 gold price is $75
That $75 is a minimum because it is ignoring the very positive silver supply market fundamentals which that have developed over the intervening 37 years, market fundamentals that favor silver, not gold.
You should try the TarnX in the Rock tumbler ...LOL.. Just saying.... :P Man you got some beautiful coins for sure I bet the kids or grand kids love them. I love showing my silver off to the kids and grandkids. Since I am only concerned with melt value on most of them I love it...:)
First off I'd like to say that I enjoy the shiny stuff. Kinda gets me about all the negative comments about cleaning junk silver, I don't see the harm.. after all its junk right? Never going to be graded or spend the rest of its life in a coin holder.. shine on man !!
where do I take this roller machine
I clean everything, because it’s MINE. I paid for it so I will do what ever the hell I want with it. 50 years of sweat and skin grease YUK. clean EM up good.
it's lovely to see you enjoying your junk silver cleaning and sharing with us.... They look gorgeous all cleaned up and ready for melt into bars or whatever you might like.... or... just to look at beautiful clean shiny coins worth their weight in the silver content they have.... It makes me think I might buy some junk silver instead of just collecting new bullion and collectors coins. Bravo to you for sharing!
Awesome, gonna search for some stainless steel shot and have a go.
You should do this again. It's been quite a few years. xD
There his coins he could do whatever he wants to them
wuao.. cograt!! i need to buy that trumbler... where i can find it? what is the exact model please
So fascinating to watch
Mohammed it's not. It's horrible! It's like me telling you to watch the holocaust happen, and me saying "so satisfying to watch:
surprised theirs not a geologist in this chat all pissed off he's not using his rock polisher right. and then another geologist all mad because someone would clean a rock because of its historic value...lol
Bwahahahaha
I feel like the steel bits will not only remove dirt, but also scratch them.
Christian Hubbs Dude these coins are 50+ years old and have been in circulation. They are already scratched up. You won't be adding any. Just exposing what was already there.
Did you lose any weight in the silver coins?
lionel kong No. Just the grime.
Lionel, I have tumbled my junk silver coins for years. My tumbler has a clear "plastic" barrel so I can watch the action.
I tumble in water, dish detergent and jeweler's shot for an hour... twice. (no Tarn-ex or the like)
HERE'S THE DEAL... The first pass in the tumbler seems to knock off around 99% of the grime. The water in the tumbler becomes muddy brown AND there is a silver shimmer to it.
I don't know how much of the silver from 200 or more coins is suspended in that brown glop but there is some. Not enough to worry about, I'm sure.
Does everything clean off even paint and rust?
amazing result
Wow! Those really cleaned up nicely! :) subbed!
SilverGold Prince no.
i love junk silver new sub btw
Tim what size Stainless Screen do you use to rince coins and the stainless steel shot
He uses the size that is in his kitchen drawer. As long as the coins won't fall through the mesh... You are good to go.
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Nice cleaning, but what kind of dish soap did u use?
+Joe Gonzales
Straight Dawn dish soap. I used a bit more than a drop, maybe 1 teaspoon. Combine with ~1 lb of steel shot and water to cover in the tumbler.
Thank you for watching
Thank u
tim s stop. You're a horrible person. This is the worst thing you can do in numismatics. Please delete this video.
@@kitkat4189 Most of these coins have NO numismatic value. There are millions of them. These are not collectables.
May I suggest, Tim, that you buy a simple drain strainer/catch at the dollar store. Seems you could afford it.
Much clean. Many wow
such comment. amaze. is it persons? much cool.
I can not believe the ignorance I have read in replies to both videos.
"Junk Silver" by definition is any silver coin which holds NO NUMISMATIC VALUE. It is simply bought and sold at it's weight in silver. No premium attached to it. There is no value other than melt (silver value by weight).
Go to your local coin shop, ask to look at 90% "junk" constitutional silver. Ask how much. You will be told face value plus it's weight in silver, and if any extra for shop fees.
If you want a coin worth collecting, turn to the glass case in the same store. No, you do not "clean" any coin that carries a premium over face value. However, in this case, he has lost no money by any way. It is "Junk Silver " as he stated. All "Junk Silver" is worn past any numismatic value and carries NO PREMIUM other than it's weight in silver.
Don't believe it...go to a coin shop to see his "Junk Silver " and when he/she brings out a plastic bin stacked full of over worn coins of all denomination you will understand. If it carried any value over weight, it would be in its own holder under a lighted case next to you.
As far a selling if need be, of course he will only get weight value minus buyers shop fees, but he will get silver content value nothing more as junk silver is sold as just that.
Clean on. They look great and are just silver, nothing more.
Totally agree. I clean my junk silver because it's disgusting when I buy it from my lcs. Sticky and stinks. Why in the hell would you want to hold that. The shinier the better for me.
@@silvercloak7216 me too 🤙🏻
I remember reading about a fancy hotel out west back in the day. They regularly cleaned their coins so that their patrons fingers would not get dirty from handling dirty coins.
Sorry, don’t really care about the perceived value of “constitutional silver”, but come on, these coins were meant to look like this...shiney, shimmering, glistening in the light. It makes my juices flow just looking at em’ in this “perfect looking” state. CLEAN ON my fine friend, and keep showing us the reflective beauty.
Victor, Imagine someone back in the 40's saying... "These new coins are too shiny. I'm going to dirty them up." lol
Great title + shiny coins = Awesomeness!
I just read all the comments and not one logical reason to not do this. Personally I dont , my time is better used in other areas of coin collecting.
Paranoid, There doesn't need to be much logic involved in this process. The only bit of logic needed is to look through the stack for collectables before cleaning.
The rest are melt value and making them pretty or keeping them grungy is just personal preference and it doesn't matter.
@@tribulationprepper787 no shit
@@billydow1971 Yeah, "no shit".
I prefer to heat them to a nice 900 degrees before I run them through the tumbler.... come out looking even better
If you don't want them I will take them.
Aaa don't skrah them
super shiny lol
The coins are his, he can do what he likes. They DO look much more attractive clean, I see the point in cleaning them....I like shiny, too. The drawback would be the amount of abrasion
that much have occurred during the tumbling....
Use a strainer with larger holes and let the stainless bearings fall thru.
Be genteel
Poor lots of Baking Soda and warm water into a glass baking pan and Rub the coins hard with saturated baking soda on the coins front and back with your fingers one coin at a time for about 90 seconds ...it's amazing what a difference that makes , it's the poor mans way , but it works, especially with Franklin's and Kennedy's !!
Almost prooflike - that's the problem. These coins were never made to look prooflike. This makes them look unrealistically reflective, and scratches them and certainly decreases the value for all but the dirtiest of them. I would only ever do a less rigorous version of this without the steel bits on very dirty coins that were in a low uncirculated or AU condition, as worn coins look ridiculous all buffed and shiny and reflective, and maybe with near-uncirculated coins, the cleaning can at least add a bit of visual appeal to otherwise relatively invaluable coins.
Shiny
take them to a coin shop/dealer, i guarantee they`ll tell you they`ve been cleaned. not a smart idea.
This roller machines are designed to decrease the value of these coins
I guess this is better that people smashing iphones 😂 now you're coin are just worth the silver lol
Coin collector here. I can tell you this: I would NEVER buy coins like these, even if they were only at melt. Silver coins are very collectible and I buy a lot of them. The silver content is only part of the reason why. Tarnish and wear gives a coin history, and it makes it feel more authentic. That's one reason I buy it. I respect that you may prefer your coins shiny, but you are really going to have a hard time selling it, they even almost look fake! Maybe you're not necessarily lowering the silver value, but you're sure ruining the coins. Think about valuable errors or varieties you could have overlooked while polishing it, too! If you really want shiny coins, buy actual bullion, not historical silver.
benjamaster7 Even only at melt? That's makes no sense. So you are saying these coins are worthless?!
that is your perspective in your world. some of us are just stacking bullion and do not care about the collectable end of it. A dealer is not sending you anything good when you buy a bag of junk silver. I like to remove the century worth of dead skin and boogers that are on it. I trade some in when i need to and get 1% below spot as does anything else that is traded in. If these coins were collectable, chances are that he would have paid a collectable price for them and then would obviously not clean the coins. But again, not all of us are collectors
I don't trust constitutional silver that is too clean. It's not a question of melt value, it's a question of chinese fakes and other shady stuff. Real junk silver is almost always a little busted up and dirty. Yeah, this guy has legit stuff but how am I, a potential buyer, supposed to know that?
I would say... just watch his video and you would know it's real.... :)
Dakiniwoman yeah but if you meet him in person you have no way of knowing that.
what is the point of cleaning?-you have just made your junk silver more cheap by cleaning -no one likes cleaned coins.
If you have clean coins you don't like, plz send them my way, I'll take em off your hands
Can I have some for free? You obviously don't care about destroying history or having money.
YoloBagels It's still money and still history idiot. Money is the most filthy thing on this planet people handle on a daily basis next to cell phones and remote controls. Get a grip. It's worth the same cleaned as disgusting.
Hurts to watch something like this.
Cleaning like that doesnt make it worth more. Coin dealer can tell if it cleaned or not and they do not like cleaned coin. They would pay you the price of weight in silver. They don't care about how dirty it, only the wear on the coin like hair line. Again never clean it.
You're missing the point. The lcs is going to pay you the same whether it's cleaned or not. Clean up that junk. You have no idea where or what it's been in. A buck forty face is an oz of silver. That's it.
still just junk silver
Wow a part 2... So dumb.
you are a real clown for washing coins-also they weigh lessnow so when you sell by the pound you will receive less
So cake them in mud before selling them. Got it.
This is the absolute worst thing you can do to 90% silver coins. Before you tumbled them they had a collector value and a silver value. Now they only have a silver value any collectability they had is gone. If Franklin halves go up in price (coin collecting can be trendy) yours have no collector value now, just the silver content
Dan Johnson I don’t think you understand what junk silver is