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The CP4 WILL fail, it is a FACT. Welcome back Powerstroke gang.......tonight we talk a little about why and what is the grounds for your CP4 failure when you go to the dealership. There are guidelines that we have to follow and remember to ASK to LOOK at those parts that they are telling you failed. Remember what PTT said!! THANKS so much for watching each weeks episode, means a lot. Let me know below friends & tell me what you all think! Remember to LIKE - COMMENT - SUB - SHARE #fordtrucks #mechanic #fyp
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I remember when warranties were just safeguards in “just in case” something breaks. Now warranties are pretty much necessary if you don’t want a vehicle sending you into the poorhouse.
Which is why financing one of these rolling heaps is an even bigger travesty. Not only are you paying out the nose for this fine engineering, you’re paying the banks interest, the insurance to cover it, and taxed for it all. When the day comes that it’s finally paid off, consider yourself lucky it even got you that far in one piece. Also all that money you just spent many long years of your working life to afford, has vanished into thin air thanks to depreciation.
@@markm0000 too true - I have a 2017 Powerstroke that I struggle whether or not I want to sell it. Been a great truck, only problem is the infamous upper oil pan leak. Aside from that, it’s never given us any issues. I did all of the “upgrades” to prevent huge repair bills, keep the oil clean and the fuel clean. Paid off, and I hope I can get at least 10 more years out of it. Cross your fingers, cause stuff just isn’t what it used to be.
@@mr8610 Unless you absolutely must have a turbo diesel pickup to move a very heavy payload on a gooseneck trailer for long distances without a CDL… it is not worth keeping at all. Get a gasser pickup instead. The only ones worth getting anymore are the V8s with no turbo that make around 400hp. The V6s and smaller with turbos are going to end up with the exact same problems as your Powerstroke. Too much engineering for the sake of it and not enough common sense. If you keep that truck for any longer it will be completely depreciated and things will break without a sense or reason. It will become a money pit like every other modern vehicle.
@@markm0000 and depreciation is part of any vehicle. Just goes with the territory. My diesel truck is keeping its value a lot better than my gas trucks did.
@@mr8610Me too. I had the crankcase breather filter replaced. The upper oil pan reseal is going to cost me $3K with the rear main seal too.
This is one of your best educational videos. Thank you for all you do for the PSD community.
My pleasure!
This guy is a natural born teacher.
Before I moved into Insurqnce
i was a mechanic at a shop anf then branched out on my own. I am looking to purchase diesal knowing nothing abiut them except avoid working on them
He has educated me quickly
The SS Diesel pump should be on all future 6.7’s
The 6.7 is a BEAST, crazy powerful… after hearing that there’s a roulette style chance I will have to replace my fuel system at 14-16k, I’ll keep my 6.0! Thanks for the videos my brother, I’ve learned a lot from you!
Exactly. I think I'll continue with my 6.0 problemz is what I say.. lol.
Had a 6.7 2 weeks gave it back have a 6.2 gas 7.3 powerstroke and a 6.0 powerstroke now I'm good untill we all go electric MANDATE 😆🤷🏼♂️
If I woke up tomorrow and there was a 6.0 in my garage (instead of the 6.7) I'd be throwing myself off of the bay bridge.
Thank you Aaron ! This is just another reason that you are the King of all things Powerstroke, and you are a GOOD King to all your people ! You could make so much money here in Florida by opening a shop with Rainman and Ford Boss and Bearded Ford tech and CP. As soon as your reputation and your honest high quality work became known the cash would just flow. I would dare say you and the others could become millionaires in 5 years. Just how Bill at Powerstroke Help has sunk to the bottom because of his antics you would rise !
I have had personal dealings with this asshole "Bill at Powerstroke Help" . I wouldn't normally say this about someone in this field as I too am a tech but not diesel. He literally ripped off one of my customers to the tune of over $21,000. I called him personally and the arrogance of this guy is unmatched.
Poor Bill sunk alright, about 6 foot or so and now Mikey is coming out with some content of him working on 6.7's. And as I was viewing this particular video again the thought occurred to me that perhaps some of the Bigwhigs at Ford and The Stealerships got a case of Testicular Torsion and decided that you maybe educated the customer too much, leading to them dropping that bomb out of No Where on You. I felt so bad for you at the time,but I also knew that it could be a blessing in disguise, and that you would get it figured out and would be on your own and would thrive. And You Brother ARod are doing just that. So B.Blanc Ford, up Yours.
Once upon a time Bosch was the top of the line for diesel systems.
Their CP3 injection pump still is. Blame the OEMs for pressuring Bosch to cut prices to the point that they end up making junk to save a buck.
@@CHME171uppliers produce exactly what the manufacturer is willing to pay for. Manufacturers have a cost set for a supplier provided part and suppliers will build accordingly.
Suppliers are fully capable of building a pump and injectors that will run a million miles if the manufacturer is willing to invest in the quality. The injectors in my 12.7 Detroit are 24 years old and have over a million miles on them and are the original injectors.
Aaron, you're the man, bud. If I was driving a Ford truck I'd definitely be trusting ALL of your advice.
I had a horrible experience with a Ford Dealership just south of Indy. i lost the pump seal between the fuel side of the CP4 and the weep chamber. they stated that is was a fuel system contamination. the crazy part is that they had the Knowledge that i was a former Ford Engineer and was aware of the CP4 issues. they claimed to fully check out the system and condemned the fuel system. reality was they never checked anything. I obtained the Ford GSB, and had an independent check the system per the Bulletin, disassembled the pump and found no contamination, also took pictures of everything before any checking was done by the independent tech and found no witness marks from the alleged testing that was listed on the service invoice for diagnosis. this was even escalated to Ford Motor Company and they did not do anything. Now on the flip side, the issue was resolved with a $900 replacement pump and $250 line kit plus a lot of labor. but much less than the $13k that was diagnosed incorrectly.
Here is another thing to keep in mind. the CP4 has it's issues, and does not have a lot of headroom or tolerance for poor fuel, water in fuel or DEF in fuel, BUT Ford has shipped Millions of these pumps and the failure rate if you do not put DEF in the fuel is extremely low from a percentage standpoint, less than .01% from the data information i got form a few friends at Ford. Keep in mind that Ford has produced over 6 million of these engines that are in F250-F450 trucks and they also use these in Medium and HD trucks that are not in those production numbers. Also from that data from Ford, 90% of the failures are on Light Duty trucks aka F250-F450, or rather "Consumer Models" and are due to DEF Contamination. (or my take is Why did they put the DEF Fill right next to the Fuel Fill).
With all that said, My failure was at 425,000 miles on the truck. and not due to DEF or other fuel contamination, a seal just wore out. My issue is with the Dealership that did not PREFORM THE PROPER DIAGNOSIS STEPS.
I 100% agree with you. I had one of our customers bring a 2018 6.7 f350 in with p0087. It also had a low boost code and a regen frequency code. Ford quoted them 21k for a fuel system, turbo and dpf service. I ran a high pressure fuel system test three times and it only failed once with the ids. Pulled the frp sensor, FP regulator and VCV and found no metal or rust. I found a weak cp4, a clogged oil separator filter which caused the regen problem and in turn caused the excess oil in the intake which gummed up the map sensor causing it to read low boost. The next f250 they brought was not so lucky. Glitter city on the vcv and a no start. Full fuel system kit
I've been watching CZcams videos for about 20 years now, and this is probably the FIRST video that I have watched in whole, without skipping.
My truck is currently getting a complete fuel system at a local Ford dealership, but I'm thankful my insurance is covering the repair. If they didn't cover it, it'd be costing me $12,000. 😮
Hey thanks buddy, appreciate you coming thru, let us knw if u need anything
My old 08 was denied HPP due to "bad fuel". Ford denied me everything was rust was found on the pump. My adviser stated this gatoraid color fuel is B2 and the apple juice is B5. and I have apple juice color fuel in the truck which carries more water then B2 fuel. I told them I could not control what the station sells. I was still denied. I was able to get in contact with a ford corp engineer who agreed with me and not with the dealership. Told me to call him a week later. I did and was told to submit my maintenance records. I did. When I bought the truck the rep told me do everything by 50% so I did. Oil changes every 5k and fuel filters every 10k or once a year. By that standard I had changed almost double the recommend fuel filters. Because of that, my repair was covered. That Engineer saved my almost $11,000. I thanked him almost every year till he retired.
Good Job Teech! As I said one night on your Pod Cast. For the average consumer when your on the road broke down watching your vehicle go into " The Black Hole" of a Dealership repair shop is upsetting. I've been on the " Other side of the Fence " and I'm proud of you for stepping up and letting folks know. My radio talk show " The CarGuys " in Syracuse NY for 20 years was often dealing with Service and Warranty issues. This week I did break off a yellow Diesel fuel diesel drain plug tab. But at least I'm checking the fuel once a month and changing filters early. Buc-ee's fuel stations are #1. NEVER a filthy Diesel handle or station. It's not a top tier Diesel fuel but those stations are impossible to find.
Back in late 02, I heard a story where an idiot bought a new 03 superduty w the 6.0L.
He then added every power boosting accessory he could find & one day, while
lighting up the tires off the line, it made a horrible noise & quit. It was towed to his
dealership & the mech popped the hood & immediately saw all the accessories. He
diag it & found it had a broken crank.
Warranty denied.
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As a Ford Rep this is a concern I deal with almost every week and use the Ford produced job aids. It’s a source of dissatisfaction with all my fleets when a fuel system breakdown occurs. We should have a more robust design for the pump and be able to segregate the injectors from the pump in the event of a failure…without going aftermarket. Your info is always helpful. Thanks again
Wish Ford knew about S&S
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod oh they do cost is too high decreased profit.
Thank you Super Rod , I’ve been through all the BS with CP-4 pump after 5 check engine lights 2 in different States . They finally changed the entire fuel system. . For my piece of mind I’m putting in the new S&S pump. I’ve learn a lot from your videos thanks
Guys just add Additives . And good diesel and your good. Hardly no issue with cp4 pumps in europe. Many Diesel vehicles are using the cp4.2 pumps Most of the issues are to do with water in the system. And gasoline mixed in with diesel.
Great Video Arod, I always try to know to the best of my knowledge what's wrong with my truck, so I don't get hosed when I go to the dealer. A lot of that knowledge comes from watching your videos. Can't thank you enough for sharing your craft with us.
Please move to St. Paul Mn and start your own shop. The nation needs more of you!!!!
One day good buddy
That’s why I have you work on mine Arod!!! Your honest and don’t lie….. hard to find that today….. I’ll drive from Columbus because your honest
As a prev tech who now does warranty claims this is good information for all! As i get alot of times when asking for diag info, "we got a P**** it needs ******" well what happend that set the code? What actually failed in the system! And as a 6.0 owner myself i know the i must find what had failed and why before looking at parts! There are great techs out there that can be correct from prev knowledge but when i was tearing something down to make repairs i always wanted to understand why and if there was an option out there to make it better.
Nice Video. I have an 8-year bumper-bumper warranty or 50000km miles on 2022 F250 6.7L. Hopefully, I won't have any problems with the fuel system. I always add fuel treatment when I fill up.
The last time I took my 2016 6.7 to the dealership it was supposed to get new fuel filters and an oil change. they changed the oil but not the filter, which could have been an honest mistake, but they tried to justify that the old filter came from them by the numbers that were printed on it, which I know was not true because I found a picture on the internet showing a Ford Motorcraft filter with the same numbers on it so I am sure those were just some manufacturing numbers. My next service time I did the work myself and when I changed the fuel filters they looked old, so I suspect they did not change those either! After changing the filters again myself on the next schedule, I could tell they had very little noticeable buildup on them, which I again believe supported my suspicions that the fuel filters had not been changed. I have been doing my own regular scheduled service work since and dread the thought of having a problem that will force me to take it into a dealership for repair.
Thank you for the update, it makes a ton of sense. Fortunately I have not an issue with the fuels system... yet. I shall add this to my notes when something goes arie.
This is why your number one in my book. You are looking out for the SD family. I'm presently traveling from the east coast to CO. (Made it and all is well!) This is a concern because of the issues with the CP4. I did an oil (Amsoil, filters too.) change and Motorcraft fuel filter (s) change prior to setting out. Thanks so much for your continued videos and personal support!
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I run hotshots every tank and go to the same stations that I'm comfortable with but still wery about the CP4, probably just going to do the Dr when I hit 100k and it goes in for weight loss.
That simply put may be the best vid ever added to your catalog/ library and is MUST WATCH material BEFORE shit happens. Thank you
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i use an clear old glass salsa jar to drain my fuel water separator monthly, i have yet to see any water in it. then again i change fuel filters every 16000 KM, Every second oil change
I would have to say from having a bunch a friends that haul fuel, either corporate or owner operator, they haul everything within a day. One delivery may have a gas/diesel split, the next its all gas. Even tho the trailer is empty it still has a few gallons in either the pump or valves or both. Buddy that is a owner/operator says when he gets a load of asphalt oil he don't bother to flush the system, thats because you can't anywhere. That takes time and resources. Oh and the bio fuel, there isnt any science to the equal parts of raw diesel to bio. Measure the tank and go by a chart.
I bought a marine fuel filter and put it before the factory filter. It really knows how to stop water. I get all parts, however they could give me any old rusty part from their desk
ARod thanks for sharing this information , it's great to know. Ford doesn't mind you saying this. Yes ur right some times we think the dealerships are not honest with us truck owners. Thanks ARod for what u do to help us.
I started my automotive career with FoMoCo in the 80s. Over my career I worked in three different Ford dealerships in two different states. That was a span of about ten years. After that I thought life would surely be better if I left the land of 90% warranty repair orders and went to Toyota which was then the land of 90% customer pay repair orders. Stayed there for another ten years until as a technician I had essentially gone as far as I was going to go. One thing that I learned the hard way was that dealerships earned the title of Stealerships by and large . I personally never worked for one that wasn’t extremely suspect in their dealings with their customers and employees. Part of the reason why was because the owners were generally far removed from what was going on in their businesses. As long as the GM produced the numbers that the owners were looking for details didn’t matter. That’s why most owners give about 10% of the company to a GM to handle the daily nasty stuff. I did work at one Toyota dealership that the owner was hands on into every single thing going on in his dealership and he was a slimy crooked SOB that was hated by every single employee in his company.
I finally left dealership life and went to work in a smaller independent shop that was owned and operated by a technician who watched his company like a hawk. I should’ve left much sooner in hindsight. I said all that to say that the term Stealership has been a hard earned title by dealerships. One Ford dealer was so crooked that FoMoCo swooped in one day with their audit team and busted them for all manner of warranty fraud. It went into the hundreds of thousands of dollars. We just showed up for work one morning and all the doors were locked and a sign said that it was closed until further notice. Maybe this is why FoMoCo is trying to completely eliminate their dealerships as they currently operate.
I can’t say how many dealerships are crooks vs. how many actually go to bat for their customers but I can say that out of the six that I have worked for they all had earned their reputation as being slimy.
A talented technician, especially in the diesel industry, should realize that the dealerships are paying him peanuts and that technician can go much further in reaching their financial goals by working for themselves. You’re a hired gun and that’s all. You may as well get paid what you’re worth in what can be a very expensive career choice to excel in.
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Aaron. I agree whit you to 100% about what you saying, In Sweden we also have dealer shops that dont take care of customer the right way. You Aaron is a good person❤
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Ford knows there’s a problem and ford should make it good
Harley Davidson has same issue..crap oil pumps on the M8 and the twin cams have crap cam chest. S&S is a must before they fail outta warranty.
Or unless it comes in on a tow with a P0087, with the WIF light and you pull a fuel sample from the housing and it's full of DEF. Pretty straight forward at that point lol
ARod you are the man! I just got rid of my 2015 6.7 due to DEF filter, which I was told going cost me about $5600 to fix. I had an extended warranty but was told by warranty folks that it was not covered because of it being a filter, and it should part of my maintenance. No more diesel for me.
Government is killing these diesels. Diesel, in the past, used to be viewed as a tank, tough, indestructible, overbuilt, fuel efficient, powerful and relatively low maintenance. Most of those qualities are history. I have a 2022 KR 6.7. I treat it like a queen so she doesn't blow a code, but I shouldn't have to. It's a 4 wheel drive space shuttle. But, it makes that diesel sound and puts a smile on my face when I drive it. In a couple years, I'll need to make a decision - put her on a diet to loose weight and get a boob job ....or divorce to look for a new cutie.
I think you mean DPF. DEF is urea, a liquid.
Think that's bad I have the extended warranty and just found out the DPF is not covered. Ford got out of it by calling it a " Filter" and Filters must be changed. I'm pondering, that the next Duty will be gas-
That "filter" should have accidentally "disappeared" a LOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time ago.
Lol wow what a RIP OFF
Good one, PTT . Something to keep in my back pocket if and when the failure happens.
I was refused access to my cores after mine left me sitting on the side of the road waiting for a tow truck and a neighbor to come fetch the trailer I was pulling. I asked if the tech had pulled the PCV to check for rust and couldn't get an answer on that either.
I now have S&S DPK 2.1to make sure I keep rolling...
Those buzzards
Had local dealership give me a fuel sample they took out of the company truck in a gateraid bottle. Then told me the fuel was bad because diesel fuel isn't green and therefore the fuel system wouldn't be under warranty.
They must have had a bad run in the 2020 model year. I did like 5 fuel systems under warranty. No sign of contamitation on those trucks. A failed hp pump with no sign of contamitation is pretty rare folk!
Great video brother, I really appreciate it... I also really wish you were closer to my area so I could swing over and say thank you in person...
Love the info you give bro!
Is there a channel for gassers like this?
Diesels cant get all the sugar!
Lolol, i gots gassy stuff too
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod I know you do.... sometimes lol
Arod saving fords all across the world 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
Awesome job as always ARod. I'm thinking hard about that DCR pump upgrade as I plan to keep my 2020 for a long time.
See Tim at Accuratediesel.com he getcha hooked up, then come see meeee
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod bro down here took my daughter escape for the works and I new she needed front brakes they estimated 635 for front brakes I was like damn said I’ll go back to my old dealership they are under 4
Muh 2016 is in local shop I trust getting DCR installed right now along with other maintenance items including FF and LOF. Picking her up Monday or Tuesday, it will be like a ton of bricks off my shoulders not worrying about that CP4, even with impeccable maintenance. Re: fuel, Costco out here has the renewable Top Tier diesel, use it 99% of the time and have seen zero water in monthly drains. Would like to hear comments about the renewable diesel. Top Tier and meets API standards. Does it really? Also Costco nozzles are 100% clean every time. Other stations have crap build-up on them, and when necessary have driven away.
@@rayc5255what is renewable diesel? Is it recycled vegetable oil?
Google Neste renewable diesel. It is diesel made from biological feedstocks, but using a different process, which makes it 100% compatible with all diesel engines. People claim it is cleaner (fuel filters last longer), and can be made with cloud points as low as minus 40 deg F. I don’t know if that is what he mentions Costco sells, but Neste has kind of taken over the phrase “renewable diesel”, so I assume so. I use it in both my trucks whenever I can, but it’s hard to find - only one station in my town of 100k people sells it. Sometimes its $.05 more per gallon than regular petro diesel, sometimes it’s a little cheaper.
These fuel system problems is what drove me to get a 7.3. Thanks Arod for all the info, and for your ethics. Really seems like there should be a better way on these, 1 bad fuel stop and you're done...
It’s times like this I wish I lived in Detroit, but that’s not gonna happen, Aaron you’re the best.
Bosch probably is a good manufacturer. The problem is the customer gives them a set of numbers. Engineering cost number and cost per unit number. This is most likely where the problem is.
Most auto manufacturers will pinch every penny until disaster happens.
Valuable information on your fuel system. Thanks for the updates Aaron. Very much appreciated. 🇺🇸✌️
My pleasure!
Many Thanks ARod for all you do for all of us!
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The pessimist in me says that more than a few dealerships have a some parts laying around that “someone’s” intentionally placed in water to look like the GSB pictures. When you ask to see the parts already taken off your truck, you see the doctored ones. Hate to be that guy, but with dealerships struggling to stay afloat and with those prices, it’s not beyond the pale.
well, so glad our feet has gas (32 ambulances) E-450 and 6 F-550's with the 6.8 v10 or the 21 up with the 7.3 v8 gassers. So much cheaper to fix and they can idle and not cause issues.
Curious what your fuel costs are doing with idling those 7.3's. How many hours/miles are you getting on those engines?
We run 6.7's due to road miles. 14000 lbs on hills and curves needs the torque!! Getting ready to remount a 2017 with 300K and 9000+ engine hours soon. Our 2022 6.7 with the 10 speed gets better fuel mileage than the 6 speeds... Our monthly maint is around $1000 per month. PM and breakdowns.
@@mro4440 Sorry about the late reply. We dont have a lot of hills and power has never been an issue. We have a 2021 e-450 with the 7.3 that has 66k on it and 5000 idle hours. We idle a lot! We have gotten rid of some with 25k idle hours with 300k on the v10 engines with very little problems. I like not having to deal with regens and def and 16 qts. of oil.
@@bisenbart Very impressive! Gives me faith in the 7.3. Todays diesel emission vehicles hate idle time like that!!
People should run diesel additive in every tank on modern diesels.
Aaron, thanks for providing so much valuable information.
Hey Love the channel Lots of great information. NO BODY drives my truck except ME or MY friend who is an expert Diesel mechanic.
Right on
I think the "stealership" comes from the rate to get something fixed. They don't realize they are paying for the technical experience and training that the techs have. I have never in the past complained about the cost because I know it was fixed correctly with OEM parts correctly and I can wipe it out of my worries.
I could agree with you if the tech with all the training and knowledge was getting more of the $105/hr labor charge instead of $22/hr.
You can request any part anytime a repair is done unless a core return is required but the customer can still see the part before turn in. That law here in VA
I always keep old parts available until the vehicle leaves. 99% of customers never ask and don't care. The only time I've ever had customers take their old parts was when I was removing aftermarket parts and returning things to stock. I usually see the parts for sale on Facebook marketplace that night.
This is because ford dealers are scared of that warranty charge back. If there’s no rust, varnish, gas, or def then it’s warranty. No way to prove it was there before if it’s not there now. And that came out of an FSEs mouth years ago and I have followed it since.
AROD you're a G!
I cannot justify spending nearly $100K on a truck that uses such a crappy CP4 fuel pump , & still have to spend more money on aftermarket stuff to mitigate disaster! So glad I went 7.3 Godzilla which has been flawless so far at 19K miles .
I guess enjoy that 10 miles a gallon
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod It’s cheaper than a $15K Powerstroke disaster! Btw my F-350 is not my daily driver my Toyota 4 Runner & Camaro LT1 are ! Lol 😂
Great content, stressing a bunch of common sense things many people don't think about. I've been a Ford guy since my 1st car (1967 Galaxie), but I may buy a Cummins .
Adding to my comment, I'm a 6.0 powerstroke fan,throw 10,000 dollars at one, and it will be dependable, tow a trailer and burn the duals off back.
Get the Dodge.
Cummins aren’t all that they are cracked up to be, not to mentioned the cheap ass truck they are in!
@@brianbarclay4316 What should you buy, a Ford? Good luck with that. Your new home will be the dealership.
@brianbarclay4316 I agree, we all need to buy chunks of trucks, Ford chassis, Alison transmission with a cummins engine. For a mere 150,000 you can have a decent truck.
As much as I like my 2020 super duty The dealer support will be the reason I go back to dodge , Unfortunately service writers give the dealerships a bad name.
Sad dealers are replacing fuel systems just for p0087, like fuel rails, hp pumps, or leaking fuel injectors won’t cause that
I've probably done about 50 fuel systems on the 6.7s in 2022. We have a huge issue with reclaimed fuel being used in pumps. They won't advertise it but it says renewable fuel at the pump and it's clear in color. Out of all of those fuel systems I replaced, 90 percent of them had reclaimed fuel in them.
Subway dreams, PTT, and good diesel = ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤. Mid week I’ll catch up with you!!
Miss you
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Calling you this week!!!
Hay Aaron
Wonderful presentation, enjoyed vary much,I had watched bearded ford techs channel on this specific matter ,man I feel for the guy,it looks as if the ford tech lied through his teeth, told that he had looked over parts taken from the motor and he didn't, and bearded had went to the dealership look over the motor notice the parts that were said were taken off for inspection were never taken off and examined at all by the tech ,and when bearded went to upper management they shined him on , WOW!
Aaron, this makes things tuff for you and us as customers, question could having a fuel additives in your fuel exempt your warranty if the same thing happens to your fuel system? Thank you for your channel, GODBLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY Sir.😎
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Having a trusted professional technician is worth more than people think, trusted technicians, usually work for trusted dealerships. and people, TAKE CARE OF YOUR TECHNICIAN!! that can be the difference if you're not 100% sure it's warranty, your tech going to bat for you, and saving you tons of money!
Owning a diesel these days is a money pit . I love them to pieces but man I don’t think I’d own one again. Do miss that 6.7 power tho haha
Rip all that emissions crap off and you’ve got a solid runner that just needs routine maintenance. 4 years of ownership and haven’t had a single issue.
@@mr8610 if only it was emissions , like this video states you got high pressure pump problems. I know the emissions are a huge one but everything is expensive on these haha
@@tundras4ever552 you aren’t wrong! I’ve just noticed that along with keeping fuel clean and oil clean(no EGR), all of these random expensive issues don’t seem to arise. Let’s hope it stays that way!
@@tundras4ever552 You nailed it.
Great video ARod. Very informative and easy to follow along with
I try to run Motorcraft pm22 I live in every tank. Definitely been happy with the performance of the additive and hopefully it does help a little bit more with protecting the fuel system.
Much appreciated brother 💯💯👍👍
Nice job! More reason to keep your high pressure oil-driven Powerstroke. There was a day when the 6.7 didn't experience many issues at all. But, somebody's got to fix 'em.
Ooooooof you can keep those
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Like your early 80's F150. Still street legal, if you have one.
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod ya and you can keep your job at Ford not paying all that money to keep a time bomb 6.7 going down the road to each there own we all pick and choose our battles it's why I DON'T WORK AT DEALER ANYMORE
I don't work @ford.
Only thing that pisses me off about Ford…They know there’s an issue and kick the can down the road!!! Thanks ARod…👊🏻
I've lost all faith in the automotive industry as a whole. My 22 is the last newer vehicle I'll ever own. Everything is getting replaced by non motorcraft parts. I'm a die hard and they lost me. I can't be the only one.
Thank you. Good video
Here's the video on what happened
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Here's the update
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My 22 at 2k miles
SPE fuel filer upgrade
SPE CCV upgrade
Def repaired ect
Fuel pump upgrade
In the future
Great information. Thanks 👍
Great job as always Arod!! LSW was great this week !!
Thanks buddddd
Unfortunately, in a lot of cases, it’s not a bad dealership, but a single bad tech
But can you trust the dealership/technician will show you the actual parts that came out of your truck or a previous one that came out of another truck. Hmmm
I just wish you were closer. I can’t tell you how much business an honest tech, somebody people can trust would generate. If only the dealerships would really learn that.
It’s amazing that when you buy a new diesel truck from the dealer, the diesel option is about 10k for the entire diesel engine. Then if something breaks, you tell me a piece of the engine is 15k to fix. Just put in a new engine is that’s the case for 10k.
Ha....its 10 grand when bought with the rest of the vehicle.....
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod so is the engine 40k and the rest of the vehicle 60k. Seems a little expensive. My fiend just had to replace his diesel engine in his Jeep Grand Cherokee and it was 6k for a brand new crate motor installed. I have no idea what the actual cost is but 15k for a fuel system seems excessive, especially if it’s not covered.
Parts are 9k plus disposal labor tax hazmat shop
Come on down to Texas can show you three buccees within 40 minutes of the house lol
Sickening to know that 3k in parts is now 10k. What a racket
I’m curious how much $$ Bosch has cost ford? I’m surprised ford hasn’t required a redesign from them.
So if you don’t put DEF in your tank and make sure you only buy quality fuel and keep up with water drains and filter changes will the pump still eventually fail?
Someday! I have 600K and 18K hours on two 2017 6.7's with the original fuel systems. I'm satisfied with that. Mechanics always see the raw side of ownership. Luck helps a lot.....
@@mro4440 what’s your secret? Fuel additive?
Anything's possible, but completely random failure is very low. Most are a direct result of contamination. My old 2011 6.7 had 400k when I sold it. Original fuel system.
@@666_Jesus_sucks Just by the nature of use we only use 1 or 2 stations for fuel. Buying our own would be even better. Then I could control the filters on the pump and check for water before the fuel even gets in the vehicle. Vehicles get frequent use, never set for days and changing fuel filters every other oil change with only Motorcraft filters. I really like Stanadyne additive but seldom use it (maybe in the winter for anti gel).
Where my problem comes from, is ford themselves know what percentage of these are bad fuel, and what percentage are pump failure.. yet they are perfectly happy with dealerships, that have gone a full year with zero warranty fuel systems, while another is picking up 40% as pump failures no fault of the customer, not to mention the number of failures after warranty but only 30 or 40k miles on truck.. and not for nothing ford is only too happy about it, else why have they not routed all fuel through a high pressure filter, they knew at the 2015 revision, heck they knew within six months of rolling out the 2011 6.7 , that total fuel system replacement was way too big a burden to throw on a guy who just bought a truck for anywhere between 60, and 200k dollars (upfitted mechanics body, small crane), and we buy these diesels because we’re looking to get 300k miles out of them, but over 300k miles is the investment even worth it, figure 3 egr coolers, and the extra 10k the engine costs, that’s 25k alone, now add your fuel and oil change over the cost of gas., then toss on top the price of diesel currently, and most likely for the foreseeable future, unless we can reason with climate alarmism, as if earths weather patterns and tempatures haven’t been changing since the dawn of time.. “green house gases” yup been proven to increase AFTER tempatures increase, not that’s gasses are causing it, they are a symptom of it.. anyhow we could just take the 7.3 gasser, beat the snot out of it, and just slap a brand new engine in, vs a cp4 pump? And you can overhaul your beat engine and toss it in a hot rod..
...maybe you need to switch to EV
Do you have a link for the customer with the ambulances you referenced? Thanks.
Bearded Ford Tech on YT
The "fact"is that they're "not" covered, so know what you're getting or not getting before you buy your vehicle!! 😮
Ford wouldn’t cover my 10 speed in my 2020 F350. Bone stock, 28000 miles. Goodbye Ford.
Why is that
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod you would have to ask Ford. My dealer had it a month doing fords song and dance.
Transmission would shift 3rd to 1st as I was slowing down, with a 15000# trailer it was quit violent.
Dealer wanted a new transmission, everything Ford said to do didn’t help.
I called customer service to plead my case and I have never been treated so rudely. Came right out and said no on a transmission, I told her I drove Fords for over 35 years and told her I see a Ram or GM in my future, she said “do what you have to do”. Dealer continued to try to get a fix and Ford pretty much ignored them. I had to have a reliable truck and this one was going to break something in the drive line with those hard down shifts. Would do it even if I manually shifted it.
Something has changed at Ford, I never had any problems in the past with any kind of warranty work in the 35 years of ownership. Too bad, they lost a loyal customer.
It is bad enough when these trucks have engine issues. Now they also have transmission issues.
My dealership would void my warranty if I added the DPK from S&S….
Thats a problem. They are fer getting that white sticker under your hood
Do I have to do warranty claims at the dealership I bought the 6.7 from if something goes wrong with my fuel system?
@@jasongriffin1127 Yes, Only dealers can do factory warranty work. This is true for all makes of vehicle.
@@legohead6 thanks. For clarification, any Ford dealerships. Not just the one I bought from, right?
Ask to see the parts and hope they are actually your parts...no that doesn't happen.
Dumb question - will installing the DCR pump void the warranty?
No
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod music to my ears!!
Now if you have a newer 6.7 still under warranty and change it over to the s&s one will it void the warranty?
No
If my transmission goes out under warranty, and it gets replaced… can I keep the old transmission. Or does Ford take it?!?
If u wanna pay the core
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod thanks for the reply. Could you guess how much a core fee would be for a 2021 f250 10 speed?
Thoughts on the new 6.7 injectors? I thought it was odd that they say they are not interchangeable between the left snd right bank 🤔
All the same except for the lines
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod I would have assumed so, had a 2023 delivered with an injector sticking open. I noticed in the workshop that the injectors are marked L and R on top next to the IQA
@@garrettboyle5892Get a quote on new injectors from your dealer. You'll get 1 or 2 part numbers. Then you'll know for sure.
What does it mean when I find those glittery particles in the lower fuel filter housing on my '17 6.7 superduty?
It means i wld be getting an S&S DPK 2.1 stat!!!!!
Man tlk about a $60k rip off. Thanks for the heads up.
What GSB # is that so I can share it with my techs?
GSB 21-7061 lots of very useful information
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod thanks I'll share
Hey Aaron, thank you for your videos. Question, does Ford honor your warranty if you put in the upgraded fuel pump?
It will not void your warranty. Any dealer can deny you anything based on what ever they want