The Fall of Berlin - the Dumbest WW2 Movie Nobody Knows About
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- čas přidán 8. 01. 2022
- This video is supposed to mock the Stalin propaganda in the USSR, by no one way I undermine the deeds of heroes who died during the WW2.
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A russian speaking Hitler is no different that an english speaking Hitler in The Bunker from 1981.
English is more similar to German than Russian is, so Russian Speaking seems far more different...
But not as weird as Hebrew speaking Adolf
Wait a minute, are you DaRoachDoggJR, OP?
@@Wolf_Larsen You caught one in the wild, lol!
Russian speaking Roosevelt was a really weird but I'm an American.
Stalin looks like the kind of guy who would post Chad memes about himself unironically
That is so accurate xdd
Stalin chad move: Yes
So he's like most people posting chad memes lmfao
@@ManiacMayhem7256 most virgins who post chad memes about themselves*
@@ManiacMayhem7256 The difference is most chad memes are ironic
12:00 here we can see how tiresome was to take Berlin, this brave soldier nearly fall asleep climbing that construction.
The Germans smeared it with glue to make climbing it impossible.
@@thinkingboi9508 there weren’t many German soldiers left. It was being defended by the German version of Kevin from Home Alone. This accounts for the high death toll amongst the Russians
Bro fell asleep then moans
I think it was a japanese fighting for the germans because the flag looks like the japanese Empire flag
As a russian, this was so confusingly amazing to watch lmao. The part where they mix german and russian gave me a fucking stroke
tbh I can't decide the one that is more annoying, this or the forced monotone Russian dub that they did nowadays in Russian movies where the characters speak in non-Russian language.
@@229masterchief where it's like one voice actor doing all of the characters lmao
@@229masterchief I think Poland also does that
@@TominusMaximus Oh god oh f, I watched one Polish-Russian movie where the entire Russian speaking part of it has a Polish dub and it has me questioning my life decisions before I stopped like 30 minutes into the movie.
My boy do you remember the character named Pin from the animated show ‘Smeshariki’?
A true gem of Soviet cinematography, the only thing beating it are modern day Chinese military movies.
Hello
You mean the one where they glorify one of AMERICA'S proudest battles that broke the Chinese advance against all the odds? Where the CHINESE were fucking slaughtered by American marines who were able to retreat in good order and break 7 Chinese divisions?
@@Tom_Cruise_Missile yup lmao
Honestly what recent war does china have to brag about? The CCP barely fought in WW2, giving then the upper hand in the civil war against the nationalists, they attack South Korea and American forces without declaration of war, their military activities in the eastern provinces are borderline genocide, their failed attempts at military conquest on their southern borders are less than glorious, and just as a little cherry on top their closest ally is the most evil nation state on earth. I mean America doesn't have much to brag about either with it's oil wars but most of our war movies are honest and show the warcrimes our forces are or have committed overseas.
Or American.
The Stalin and Hitler casting were great, but can we take a moment to appreciate that 100% perfect Molotov?
I'm pretty sure that was actually him
Well that was actually him so 😂
@@dudebro91-fn7rz Hitler was also played by himself
@@firemanganI mean it’s pretty accurate casting if you get the actual guy
He play his onw charachter
Everything else being said, the actors resemblance to their historical counterparts are uncanny, kudos to the casting director and make up artists
Also, decent makeup job.
Only things lacking were acting, special effects for all guns, a good script that wasn’t just a Stalin cultism movie script. But I love how this movie has such nice set pieces and actual items of the war since it was made just after it, that’s something.
Agree I mean look at Goebbels he looks like a walking talking Corpse which has a limb, what I'am saying they all look like corpses
It's not really too commendable this was made right after WW2. You can see a similar trend with movies that were produced right after WW1
That's actually incredibly well done
"- Thank you comrade Stalin for my happy childhood!"
"- WTF are you talking about, he died before your birth!?"
"- That's the point"
Tankies be like
😂😂😂
О, старый позднесоветский анекдот.
Let's be honest, both Hitler and Stalin look very similar to how they looked in real life
True, every actor in fact looked so similar to their real counterpart, unlike in the modern movies we have today and all technology we possess.
@@DerKopfsammler666 actually I've just noticed Hitler's timbre of voice is similar to his real one too
@@rafaelgonzalez2837 hitler was captured alive by the soviets to be actor in this movie
Hitler's political party members looked very similar too. Gobbels and Goering.
Yeah they have actors extremely close
Shit acting, good casting
All of the monstrosity aside, that was the most historically accurate looking Hitler I've ever seen in the movies so far
You should go and see Der Untergang, then
@@TheRevisor I did, but the Hitler are not similar to the real one to me.
@@TheRevisor hitler's voice in der untergang is too high pitched
@TheRevisor Bruno Ganz portrays a very authentic Hitler, but physically the Russian actor from this movie resembles Hitler more.
@@Master-Mirror that's what I said. I said "most accurate" based on his looks, not his performance
Fun fact: in the soviet Union everybody loved this film except for a liutenent Yevgeni Chernonog, Who stated "And where did this angel come from? We have not seen him there" then he magicaly disapeared for 8 years
He was doing research to find the answer to his question
@@georgemurdock7670 I guess that in some siberian gulag. You know, to find answers from the war prisoners😉
Fan fact: in the Soviet Union, this film was forgotten after the death of Stalin.
At least he's not disappear forever.
Fake news
Making German POWs reenact their own invasion is probably the only thing Stalin deserves props for.
Stellar level of trolling indeed.
Except the soviet soldiers were allowed to use live ammunition
@@josefstalin3394 wait what
@@josefstalin3394 based
@@josefstalin3394 fahcking based
13:13 Actually that's a Bulgarian Flag and probably one of the more historically interesting (if inaccurate) side notes of the film. During the onset of the German invasion Stalin approached the ambassador of then neutral Bulgaria about the prospect of brokering a ceasefire in exchange fore the Ukraine and Baltic States. The ambassador (Ivan Stamenov) shocked Stalin and told him to stay the course and that even if the USSR had to retreat to the Urals they could still win persuading him to stay the course. After the War Bulgaria was the only nation allowed to set its own terms for entry into the Comintern and it is undoubtedly Stalin's influence that had the flag used in this scene.
Also if I am not mistaken the Bulgarian communists received very minimal support from the Soviets compared to the Yugoslav Partisans for example.
@@229masterchief That is correct. Neutrality was the best thing the Bulgarians could offer the Soviets a communist coup would merely have invited Axis countercoup or worse a occupation like what happened in Yugoslavia.
@@TalonAshlar Chad Tsar Boris probably killed by Hitler
@@229masterchief Not at all. Soviets helped Bulgarian communists in overthrowing prince Kiril and establishing a communist-socialist People's Republic Of Bulgaria.
@@TalonAshlar Except the coup did happen, lol. Soviet and Bulgarian communists got rid of prince Kiril and established a communist-socialist rule in Bulgaria. After that, Bulgaria's army and communist partisans even assisted Soviets in some combat operations, e.g. Operation Spring Awakening.
It's wild how the Soviets went from this to Come and See.
That's what 40 years do lol
Удивительно, но кино меняется и меняется устройство государства, поэтому изменилось кино. Нужно понимать, что кино Сталинского периода было таким пропагандистским, да правда. Но сейчас другая крайность- засрать себя.
@@voinmotherland594 Не соглашусь. Александр Невский может и имел идеологическую подоплеку, однако кином как я слышал был не плохим.
Да и в Иване Грозном с целью пропаганды был выбран именно период, который удобно подходил, а сам фильм вроде относительно историчен)
In fairness, the Americans also shot pretty good military films after "Enemy at the Gates"
@@user-lz6hd1fx6t , да тут спору нет. При Сталине тоже умели кино снимать. Оно просто было другим.
At this rate I was expecting a Russian Mussolini and a Russian Tojo
Praising Stalin? LOL
@@johnburns9634 Are you delusional ?
@@My-name-is-user-tx6ow1ss3b
It’s a Soviet propaganda movie, why not have even Stalin’s enemies praise him?
@@johnburns9634 It's about the Russian actor who plays Hitler, do you understand his comment now?
@@My-name-is-user-tx6ow1ss3b
I don’t think Stalin obsessed about Mussolini or Tojo like he did about Hitler.
Admittedly, the movie is still a fascinating piece of history since it was made like immediately after WW2 during Stalin's reign. So it provides a very interesting insight into film in the Stalinist era and Stalin's wider cult of personality as well as how the Soviet Union chose to remember the War.
Everything that does not correspond to Western propaganda (which is the truth in the last instance) is the Dumbest WW2 propaganda Nobody Knows About. Firstly, this film has millions of views even on CZcams, and secondly, this film is not propaganda, since it most objectively covers the events of the Second World War. The descendants of the losers (the Germans) and the descendants of those who joined and took advantage of the victory of the Soviet people (the Americans and their Mutts like the British) cannot accept this and therefore try in every possible way to denigrate, appropriate and discredit the achievements of the Soviet people and their victory in World War II. They are very fond of talking about Stalin's repressions, increasing the number of their victims by tens and hundreds of times, but they forget to mention those tens of billions of people whom the British and French killed in their colonial empires in the 20th century. They forget to mention the millions of unruly and disobedient people in the United States who were kept in mental hospitals and who were lobotomized. They forget about the millions of black people who were killed by kuklusklan with the mediation and connivance of the American state, They do not mention the hundreds of thousands of American citizens of Japanese and Asian origin who were thrown into concentration camps. They forget about the thousands of American citizens who have become victims of secret experiments on people (drugs and radiation). The crimes of the criminal anti-human regimes of the West can be enumerated endlessly. But propogandists, such as the authors of this channel, do not do this for obvious reasons. - They are corrupt, deceitful and engaged!
@@MarMar-nq9ii you should write a book with that hate boner
@@MarMar-nq9ii poor baby, do you want a cookie?
@@BlazemanGuitarX As an American who is willing to criticize my country's flaws when necessary, I counted no fewer than five exaggerations or misleading claims in that comment by Mr. "Mar Mar". Half of them were private groups doing those hateful acts, and other claims he makes exaggerate numbers. Too much Commie propaganda is what he's been listening too.
@@thunderbird1921 damn dude that's crazy
but I didn't ask
Fun fact: During Khrushchev's Secret Speech, he even mentioned the movie in the middle of it:
"Let us recall the film, The Fall of Berlin. Here only Stalin acts. He issues orders in a hall in which there are many empty chairs. Only one man approaches him to report something to him - it is Poskrebyshev... And where is the military command? Where is the politburo? Where is the government? What are they doing, and with what are they engaged? There is nothing about them in the film. Stalin acts for everybody, he does not reckon with anyone. He asks no one for advice. Everything is shown to the people in this false light. Why? To surround Stalin with glory - contrary to the facts and contrary to historical truth."
BTW, this movie reminds me of those low-budget Yugoslav partisan movies from 1960-1980's
@123 yes they are, but they make a minority. Walter brani Sarajevo and Battle of Neretva are great, but there are thousands of those who are just propaganda movies centered around partisans and Tito
same khruschev who supported this COP. opportunist
@@WM-gf8zm How so?
I thought this might have been the film Khrushchev was referring to.
You are very perceptive, my compliments . And by the way, where are our friends in the NKVD in all of this ?
Why does the Stalin in this movie look so creepily realistic?
cause he was the only actor allowed to play stalin cause he was also georgian and looked really close to the dictator , something that plagued him his whole career , as he was only allowed to play in propaganda pieces like this when the actor itself wanted to play other roles and in other movies and after the death of stalin the man wouldnt get any roles cause of his big association with him being stalin on the big screen en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikheil_Gelovani
@@athomicritics Man, that’s actually sad.
@@athomicritics
Reminder that when commies say communism promotes art, they are lying bastards.
@@Reagan1984 cope and cry harder
@@gla9322 1991 be like
I watched it. I couldn't stop wondering why Zhukov was absence in the airport scene then I remember by the time this film was shot, Stalin was still alive .
He would be restored, for a little while after Stalin’s death.
Boy the actor who played Stalin must be under some pressure lmao, especially since Stalin himself was a huge movie buff.
Rumors says he died shortly after movie was killed
@@rayh6118 i think he died on Stalins birthday
@@maxmurovargas9435 He died near Stalin’s birthday, but over three years after Stalin himself died.
4:00 Gotta love how Turkey is represented by an ottoman era pasha, even though this is in the 1940s and Turkey had already gone through a massive de-ottomanization.
Whats the name of the pasha....i checked wiki,couldnt find it
@@mahmudulislam9535
It's no one in particular, just a caricature of a Turkish official.
Egypt lol
@@Jose_phk Yes, most probably Egypt, as you say. Turkish Ambassador was at 3:45
9:26 At this point, knowing the movie was blatant propaganda, I feel like the film makers gave up. They just tried to have fun over crafting any sort of believability.
You have to admit though, throwing a PPSh, onehanded with that much speed requires some serious force, dude threw it like a dart. But its comrade sigma from earlier so that explains it.
Everything that does not correspond to Western propaganda (which is the truth in the last instance) is the Dumbest WW2 propaganda Nobody Knows About. Firstly, this film has millions of views even on CZcams, and secondly, this film is not propaganda, since it most objectively covers the events of the Second World War. The descendants of the losers (the Germans) and the descendants of those who joined and took advantage of the victory of the Soviet people (the Americans and their Mutts like the British) cannot accept this and therefore try in every possible way to denigrate, appropriate and discredit the achievements of the Soviet people and their victory in World War II. They are very fond of talking about Stalin's repressions, increasing the number of their victims by tens and hundreds of times, but they forget to mention those tens of billions of people whom the British and French killed in their colonial empires in the 20th century. They forget to mention the millions of unruly and disobedient people in the United States who were kept in mental hospitals and who were lobotomized. They forget about the millions of black people who were killed by kuklusklan with the mediation and connivance of the American state, They do not mention the hundreds of thousands of American citizens of Japanese and Asian origin who were thrown into concentration camps. They forget about the thousands of American citizens who have become victims of secret experiments on people (drugs and radiation). The crimes of the criminal anti-human regimes of the West can be enumerated endlessly. But propogandists, such as the authors of this channel, do not do this for obvious reasons. - They are corrupt, deceitful and engaged!
@@MarMar-nq9ii Comrade, the glorious Soviet Union collapsed 30-years ago. No need to defend propaganda film were husbands are more concerned with welfare of Stalin over their wives, and were soldiers throw guns at each other instead of shooting them.
@@MarMar-nq9ii Hey, Ivan-Vasily-Russianovich, are you from the former Soviet Union or are you a Western apologist?
@@romanempire4495 I am an apologist for the truth.
I had to watch the tail end of this movie in A-level history class. Our history teacher told us the actor who played Stalin did such a good job that Stalin prevented him from ever playing any other role ever again.
Suffering from success
Let's hope he didn't become one of Stalin's doubles.
(And how they were dismissed in The Death Of Stalin)
@@diegoferreiro9478 Nah, he died in 1956.
@@sodadrinker89lucky him!
not quite true..when Stalin died, it was Khrushchev that blocked him as part of de-stalinization. The man played Stalin so well he became typecast as Stalin.
So when it was time for Stalin to go bye-bye..
Maybe that russian flag in the end is actually bulgarian. Colors in the film are so pale it is hard to say if it's blue or green. It would make sence because among shown flags is also czechoslovakian, both countries were liberated by USSR.
Lol "liberated by soviets", they replaced shit with a different kind of shit
>liberated
would be better under german rule than "liberated" by comunists.
@@liveforever141 yeah because soviets put millions of people into death camps ..
@@liveforever141 i guess you are saying certain death is better than a shitty life
@@marechaltukhachevsky2909 For whom was it certain?
Soviet propaganda movies are so interesting because it's too obvious that they are propaganda, and they don't want to hide that. I recommend "Alexander Nevsky", which tell us the fight between Russians and Germans in Middle Ages with an obvious ideological agenda and medieval nazis.
Also, remember that if you watch an American Cold War movie like Rambo or something you are also watching propaganda, less obvious, so more efficient.
The difference is that Sergei Eisenstein and Sergei Prokofiev made that movie so it is actually amazing. Commie propaganda? Yes. But excellent cinema regardless.
@@noneofyourbusiness9489 that’s arguably the strongest suit of Soviet artists of any medium. They had to pull through so much animosity and censorship, had to be made to do clear propaganda pieces and spread essentially lies, but they managed to create good art pieces regardless of all that, even sneaking double meaning and ulterior understanding through censors sometimes. Peculiar times those were.
at least Alexander Nevskij film was made by a capable director and feature decent acting and good scenes
@@everythingsgonnabealright8888 If that combo had been in Hollywood in the 20s...
Probably because the Hollywood people have spent the last 80 years subverting Christian society with purposely ambiguous mores. In order to get things like "Bird Box" made.
10:42 T34/85 barrel falls off after firing.
Oh shit, it really does.
Maybe he was just tired. And had a headache.
All saboteur bourgeois workers have been shot dead for
@@TominusMaximus damn, thanks for the pin!
Historically accurate soviet quality, and you all say its just a propaganda movie and full of lies smh.
I have been digging the whole week to find the source of my claim at 2:33 that Russians used real German POWs as extras because I knew I read it somewhere but I forgot where and a lot of you have been asking about it in the comments. Today I finally found it, it is from the book Soldat: Reflections of a German Soldier, 1936-1949 by Siegfried Knappe, chapter 34.
"During the winter of 1946 - 1947 the Russians made a movie about the Battle for Moscow that took place in December 1941, and they forced all of us who were in uniform to play the role of the German Army in that movie. Having been part of the real battle, I was not a willing participant in their movie, but of course I had no choice. They set up propeller driven airplanes to whip the snow into our faces and create the effect of a winter gale. Of course, the sorry state of our uniforms made us a rather pathetic-looking "army," but that probably fit neatly into their propaganda objectives."
So it is a little bit different than what I claim in the video:
-as a German POW you did not have an option whether to be in the movie or not.
-an intact uniform was not required
-the text is about the scenes for Battle of Moscow only (although I think they really used some other German POWs for other scenes).
The Wheatfield bombing scene was actually happened, the Luftwaffe bombed several Farm industry in hope to cripple soviet food stock and weakened their armies
And the lack of actual german equipment in the films like flags,Uniform,etc is because after the war The Soviet Union burned and destroyed lots of Nazis related items such as Flags so finding one was Rare at the time the movies were make
@@natalianatavinden Using POWs for forced labour was and is a war crime. Especially after the war was over.
Responding with that the nazis would've done the same or worse is not an acceptable answer.
@@betoviancitizen5646 It should be noted as well that the Soviets sold a lot of captured German equipment to Syria before and during the first Arab-Israeli war.
@@Jimbotheone they started the war so why should they rebuild what they destroyed
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"Dumbest ww2 movie"
Enemy at the gates: hold my beer.
Still dumb but cannot be compared with this absolute stupidity
@@TankMasterGo The film cannot compare with the stupidity of people in the West who perceive this film as propaganda without understanding the context of the time of the film's creation, the history of Soviet cinema and culture.
@@DVXDemetrivs
What do you mean by "without understanding the context of the time of the film's creation?". It's already explained in the video. The movie was created in 1949 where Stalin's cult of personality was still around. That's what makes the entire movie a stupid Stalinist history revisionism "film"
@@TankMasterGo Lol that's why I repeat. You don't know the cultural context of that period. This film is not propaganda because it is more of a socialist realist fantasy. If you start reading reviews of the film from that time, it will be absolutely clear.
I repeat, you don't understand the context. Because even in the terrible USSR there was a culture with its own characteristics and the people of that time absolutely understood that the film was socialist realism fantasy.
Imagine how nervous the actor playing Stalin would be.
Or the director
The guys first thought upon waking up would be I don't want to go the Gulag, I hope today's filming goes well.
The director thought he was gonna be executed just for mentioning if stalins deceased son who was a POW should be included in the film, he was relieved when he saw Stalin was crying at the end of the film
Despite being one of cinemas best accidental comedies, I can't get over how photo-perfect Hitler and Stalin are in this.
As Russian I can confirm that this movie is so funny.
It's really interesting how Stalin actually became some kind of Jesus for the Soviet People
And yeah Death of Stalin is banned in Russian Federation
There's no Soviet Union but Stalin's cult lives on
Yeah I hear there's a lot of proud Stalinists in Russia. They're willing to overlook Stalin's atrocities because they believe Stalin was the one who made Russia into a strong, powerful nation. The ends justify the means type of thinking.
@@WeegeeSlayer123 And I hear there's a lot of proud patriots in USA. They're willing to overlook genocide and don't hate their country. They also have a state named after one of the country's leaders, what a cult of personality... The ends justify the means type of thinking.
@@WeegeeSlayer123 sry for my english
But to be serious, as one person said, there was a cult, but there was also a personality. This is not just a schizoid cruel paranoid, as he is often thought of.
Speaking of repression and so on, do you seriously blame those who don't take it seriously?
Say thanks to movies like "Enemy at the Gates" and "Number 44".
Say thanks to those who, instead of digging through documents, tell freacking stories about more than 100 million victims of the gulags.
Say thanks to people like Solzhenitsyn, who have already become memes.
And when people see a bunch of ridiculous propaganda, stupid movies, schizoid stories, are you surprised that some of them notice the delusional nature of this and begin to fundamentally hold the opposite opinion?
Very often this is not "the end justifies the means", it is "If they try to deceive me, then I will believe in the opposite"
For many, he is associated with a strong and honest (Sent his child to war, did not withdraw money to Swiss accounts, did not leave Moscow, did not build palaces or villas in the Canaries for himself) a leader who came in hard times and brought the country out of them. In this case, in the eyes of people, the blame for the losses is largely shifted to hard times (And there were really hard times), and they see pluses, such as medicine and education, which they tried to make more accessible, saving them from Hitler (Industrialization), nuclear shield from a new invasion (i.e. protection from another such brutal war), the fight against corruption, etc.
Культ Сталина мало имеет отношения к РФ. Они сами могут снимать не хуже, но не заявлять это как комедию.
@@user-lz6hd1fx6t "the cult of personality" of washintong doesn't come anywhere near the status of god that stalin build up
Gotta say that the actors look almost exactly like their real life counterparts, they got that part perfect.
Except for a few, especially churchill.
08:55 - Another detail, soviet war movies always try to portray national asian minorities in every battle possible, despite main Zhukov army being majority were ukrainians and belorussians.
Was there any particular reason for that? I'm curious
@@icarusmarioFAN idea of friendship between all nations in ussr. Both modern and soviet anthem had line about "eternal union of brother nations".
That guy seems from Central asia or Mongolia
@@icarusmarioFAN Globalism. The Axis had a fraternity but understood ethnic boundaries despite being diverse.
@@icarusmarioFAN reason? Bruh, did you think only russians fought in that war?
10:37 Hitler's wedding is a really good scene tho
Fun fact: the main director of the film was Mikheil Chiaureli (a famous Georgian director of that time) who was considered to be Stalin's favourite movie director. The producer of the film (Tsirgiladze) and the actor who plays Stalin in the movie (Gelovani - he played as Stalin in at least 13 other movies) were Georgians as well. Apparently Stalin (himself a Georgian) was delighted by the fact that so many of his fellow countrymen were working on this film.
Another interesting thing: 12:41 shows Stalin arriving in Berlin by an airplane. In reality Stalin hated travelling by airplanes (it's thought that he was afraid of flying in general). Instead of a plane, Stalin used his personal train while travelling
Must be a commonunist thing, the leaders of North Korea used to do the same!
@@jmjedi923 Kim Jong Un still uses a train
Stalin didn’t go to Berlin at all, either by plane or train
Like Kim Il Sung.
Air travel is dangerous, just ask Prigozhin.
I love when Stalin came from Moscow to Berlin in 20 minutes. Strange German civilians supported the Red Army. Also, I find it strange the Germans would have a concentration camp a few meters from Reichstag.
The last one wasn't unusual for the era. For the crowd at home who couldn't leave the country this sounded true (since they saw similar in Ukraine and Belarus. What the video essayist doesn't get, and it's evident by the comparison with Band of Brothers, is that the official Soviet mantra was, Nazi Germany waged war on communism. So people who returned from Ostarbeit were amalgamated into forced labor. There were no death camps, just labor camps.
The reason people leave so strong and happily is that they're devout Marxists taken into the Reich against their will, and unlike the USSR that only convicted pesky criminals to the gulag system, the Nazis convicted people for being mere socialists.
Why does he take such bizzare umbrage with everybody speaking the language of the country the movie was filmed in?
Its one of the most normal things in cinema, even today.
Low functioning ASD
The USSR gave us both "The Fall of Berlin" and "Come And See."
Thankfully the first one was forgotten, while the latter has been cemented as peak cinematography.
Can’t agree more with you
@@WormsAreEverywhere Russian Film can be great, but only if their government would allow it be so.
Basically movies from two different countries, as in 40 years USSR went from brutal stalinism to aggressive deStalinization where they shitted on everything done under his regime, then to thaw period and zastoy (where culture began to westernize in a lot of ways) and finally perestroyka era, that led to the end of USSR, time when "Come and See" was created.
It's like comparing culture of USA during 1946 to wild 1989, two completely different cultures that.
Both were over the top
@@lovepeace9727 not perestroyka lead to crash of the ussr, but their entire cringe economic system based on abstract principles of marxism (not fully for sure, but base was definetly marxist).
The part where the captured SS officer yelled "HEIL HITLER!" had me dying 🤣
I think that line about not defeating the Russians in 1914 is about them not defeating the Russians literally in 1914 and it being a drawn out process and how they are trying to beat the Soviets in as little time. Which is still an unfair comparison because the Germans AFAIK weren't really on the offensive on the Eastern Front in 1914 and were merely trying to hold back the Russian bear, and doing quite well at that.
Funnily enough, the Russians were very successful against the Germans at several points during 1914. Stalluponen, Gumbinnen, the Vistula, the Bzura, Krakow (for a while at least). Hell, the second 1 I mentioned would've crushed the Germans in East Prussia had it not been for Tannenberg. So In a sense, that German Officer was correct (though I doubt the movie's screenwriters were aware of that).
But what the fuck is that supposed to mean. No shit they didn't Beat the largest country in the world the Same year the war started
@@luca8510 It means they were trying to take out the Soviets in one go, in 1941 when they invaded. My theory is the general there is saying that they can't beat the Soviets in 1941 because they couldn't even beat the backwards Russians in 1914. Which, again, they weren't trying to do in 1914, but they were trying to in 1941.
A better line would be "It took us three years to beat the Russians last time, what makes us think we can do it in less than one?"
@@901Sherman stalluponen was not a german defeat
4 russians divitions (50.000) were held back by 18.000 men.
The russians suffered up to 8.000 casualties and the germans less 1.500
Not only that, but it also opened the gate to tanneberg
Kid: Can we have Downfall?
Stalin:we have Downfall in Soviet Russia.
Downfall in Soviet Russia:
I think the 'turn tanks into plows' bit was based on the US and UK turning a bunch of shermans into tractors
Not sure I've ever heard of the Soviets doing anything like that, only the opposite, turning a tractor into a makeshift tank lol
More likely its just a refence to the old saying "beat swords into ploughshares"
in the USSR, even after the Civil War, British tanks were converted into tractors. And tractors were turned into tanks only when needed, for example, during the defense of Odessa, when the city was besieged by superior enemies. Therefore, the comparison of the USSR and the allies is incorrect
@@pozhiloy_monstr thanks for the clarification
Your comment made me think of the infamous New Zealand World War 2 Bob Semple tank that had a tractor as a base and "amour" made out of corrugated iron.
Also 10:26 I don't think Hitler would play Mendelssohn wedding march on his wedding since he was jewish composer and thus banned in nazi germany... Especially when Hitler's favourite Wagner had Lohengrin...
Which is true, but beside the point. When Hitler made the decision to marry Eva Braun, it was part of the murder suicide pact in a bunker that was damaged by bombs so electricity at no point was ever guaranteed. This is why IRL they just signed it in front of two witnesses and that was it.
Brain: Was invented 521 million years ago
People before that: 9:26
Still better than anything Disney has put out in the last 10 years.
There's something so uncanny about Stalin in this film. He looks very similar to how he did in real life but something about it just seems off, I can't explain it.
Uncanny valley, lol.
He is the idealized version of Joseph Stalin Joseph Stalin wanted the whole USSR to remember, hence why he looks perfect. The actor playing Stalin never played any role that cast Joseph Stalin in a bad light...
Explanation : the astronomic usage of make-up
The actor can barely move his facial muscles
The actor looks taller than 1.6m
Krebs was the only one who actually spoke Russian in real life - he learned it as German military attaché in Moscow before the war, which is why he was the one sent to negotiate.
i love how the man playing stalin looks exactly like stalin, i dont know how they even managed to find that guy
probably tons of prosthetics and makeup lol
13:14 - no, dude, that's Bulgarian flag. The Bulgarian army a the obly foregin army who was invited to the Victory march
Stalin here looks like he was rendered in a games engine about 12 years ago.
if I had a genie and one wish, I'd wish that the Stalin portrayed in this movie was the actual stalin.
I thought it actually was Stalin himself
@@jeryro1642 ngl if i was stalin i wouldn't let anyone act as me
@@rayh6118 same, If I was Stalin I’d like to play as myself
I like that they're a little nicer to Roosevelt than Churchill in the movie because he was a little nicer to them than Churchill
Surprisingly, yes, Stalinist propaganda respected Roosevelt as an honourable rival and ally. American capitalism was also considered to be worthy of respect and imitation, since it was "dynamic" and "modernist", compared to allegedly "retrograde" and "stratified" European capitalism.
@@user-zt2up8zq8l Это Черчилль сверг демократические правительства в странах Восточной Европы и поставил там марионеточные диктатуры?
At the start I was like “no shit it will be propaganda” but even half way through I was just dumbfounded by how absolutely crazy it is. Like, seriously, what the hell was up with the whole America and Britain are secretly helping the Nazis? After the Blitz too, I don’t think any of the Brits were really in a cooperative mood after that.
Just like they are a lot of rumors that the nazi were socialist and stalin was secretly helping hitler and was a axis member they were a lot of rumors that the soviet propagandized
@@rayh6118 the nazis and soviets did colaborate in the invation of poland
Other than that saying that stalin help him rise to power is bullcrap
There's plenty of evidence American business funded the Nazis.. Just google it. (they also funded the Communists). You can also start with the book by Anthony Beecher. Bush's grandaddy was literally hauled before federal court for his business dealings with the Nazis. He was of course slapped on the wrist.
The thing about propaganda is that it always lies about itself, but often tells the truth about its enemies. Since American ruling business interests rule here and control the media, we get neither the truth about the Nazis nor the Communists.
@@elmascapo6588 And the British and French helped Germany in the invasion of Czechoslovakia.
@@kholeka8475 By not caring about Czechoslovakia?
Wait, so this movie not only glorifies Stalin, but there was also a scene where they tried to put a good spin on Beria? Jesus Christ. What's next? A quirky buddy comedy about Pol Pot and a talking dog solving crimes?
There is one thing tv was banned in cambodia during the late 70s
And what's wrong with Beria?
@@thejohnreview9650 ...really? You don't know?
@@louthegiantcookie I only know a story about Beria raping pioneer girls, which has no evidence as such.
@@thejohnreview9650 растворял тела девочек в кислоте концетрацией выше 100%😂
The “no thanks I choose life” killed me
The battle scenes were actually far better than I expected compared to the rest of the film
to be fair, that Hitler actor did a great job, looked just like him sometimes
1:58 Oh shit, comrade, it's fuckin' Stalin, act natural .
Ton be fair, I'd react that way if I saw Stalin.
These old propaganda films are masterpieces of uncanny horror.
Stalin's actor looking quite a bit taller than his actual height of ~165cm
Which works fine in a propaganda movie designed to promote the cult of his identity.
Hilarious. Small correction: there are a few non-Russian actors in this movie. Most notably Jan Werich (who plays Goering, with a ridiculous make-up), a Czech actor, writer and comedian in a extremely unusual role
I have seen this movie before. I had assumed that it had been made after Stalin had been embalmed but apparently it was made earllier than this taking advantage of captured Nazi Botox technology. The movie left me with many questions like, "How often did Stalin need to get that white uniform dry cleaned?", "Was Hitler actually taller than everyone else in Germany except that one really tall guy in the black uniform?", and "What caused the great vodka shortage that led them to consume 1.5 millions litres of fuel while making this movie?".
"Worst propaganda movie"? Both modern Russia and West post-1945 do the kind of movies that make this one look like a masterpiece
если посмотреть клюкву американскую, которая вышла в 70-80х ахуеешь как здесь неплохо передали правду...
Imagine, Stalin is the only one in the movie, who speaks german.
This movie is actually 100% real, I was there
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"the Dumbest WW2 Movie..."
Sorry you lost me at that part, as far as I know of, some 95% of all WW2 movies are bad
Really bad
Aye, but this one takes it to a new fucking level.
What's funny is when I watch World War II films of the last 20 some years (from Hollywood at least), they all sound like modern young men in accent. If you watch Battleground (1949) and other early WWII movies, they have a very noticeable accent difference and talking style. It seems Hollywood has almost never taken this cultural change into account.
@@Karifi It's not history, it's a fairy tale. You could be extremely edgy and say all WW2 films are, but you would also be wrong.
@@thunderbird1921 The accent in those earlier movies was just how actors spoke on film--few if any people actually spoke that way in real life.
@@hailexiao2770 Some of it was, but I think you can recognize certain dialects from areas that have since changed (remember a LOT more people lived in the northern US states back in those days). Plus, the word usage is often different in the 40s-60s WWII films than in 90s-21st Century ones. Makes the older films more accurate in my opinion.
3:44 Turkish ambassador wear the fez.Actually we remove in 1925.It is forbidden to wear.(From Turkey)
10:29 - The Metro (parts of it) was indeed flooded. Not an invention of Soviet propaganda.
The flooding was accidental and not done on purpose.
There's another Soviet epic movie (series) about the Eastern Front called Liberation, and while it's still propaganda, especially since it was made during Brezhnev's time, in my opinion it is eons better than this lmao.
Nah the Liberation is great compared to this
Ong all the liberation movies are awesome
@@smg3851 Yea they're legitimately pretty good
Damn, beat me to it.
Yeah, at least those movies had a lot of effort behind them and were made to be as historically accurate as a propaganda flick would allow.
This film is pretty weird and cheap propaganda for sure, but, Imo, the most solid and unbeatable nominee for "Dumbest WW2 Movie" is "Enemy at the gate", which greatly surpasses this one on level of shitty, idiotic, blatant propaganda
11:38 ;
Me ; “aww commissar I love you too”
Commissar ; pulls out gun “ sorry comrade no homo”
Soviet dont have commissar since 1942
They only had political offficers（which has no power to shoot or command people in the army at all .Just a morale booster）
@@user-bg9sq5kb6o i think he was just being intentionally dumb
6:54 I think what you understood as "zeug" was a "zurück". Wich would make sense as the two sentences would read "Germany moves forward. Russia moves back."
I'll just go the extra mile and say that the officer would habe said something in the lines of "Deutschland schreitet voran und der Russe zieht sich zurück.". That is still a weird sentence to say but it's the best I can do with the skript here.
It's a summation of Hitler's quote for you just kick the doors in and Russia will fall apart. The scene is supposed to be a fuck around and find out moment.
I have to disagree about one thing, the real Churchill really looks a bit like Ephialtes 🤣 Btw, I come from one of the post communist countries and the interesting thing about movies like this is that you had no choice whether to watch the movie or not. When movies like this were made, you just had to go watch them. People went to watch the film in an organized way, from small children in schools to workers' organizations in factories all the way to seniors. EVERYONE MUST WATCH THE MOVIE 😄
No wonder lot of people than did not took events of those seriously...
@@jirikajzar3247 Bro that is the saddest part. Many really didn't take it seriously and saw it the way it was - communist propaganda. But many were brainwashed to such an extent that they really believed that it was all true and that being forced to watch the film collectively made sense. It is even sadder that even today there are a large number of people who still believe that all this communist nonsense was a good thing.
@@herzog1857 And everyone who didnt Pass the test about the Film and didnt receive a A+ disappeared .. about 170 Million people were in gulags in the USSR
@@herzog1857 I'll tell you more, in the West there are also propaganda films, and they are also believed. "Enemy at the gate" for example, or, from fresh, "Order 44" or "Chernobyl"
@@sovietheart3883 170 million?
So every single person in the Soviet Union was sent to the Gulag?
"Ivan's Childhood" and "Come and See" are both Soviet films that are pretty good.
Come and See is a masterpiece.
The hitler actor is close to the original, also the hall of the Reichskanzlei is looking like the real one.
Other highlights from this movie you might not have noticed but it would've been amazing if you included here were:
-The cut Stalin scene is actually on CZcams, and Alexei gives a speech about how much he loves iron
-at the end of one of the earlier Hitler scenes, one of the set lights goes supernova and they do a hardcut before it blows out
-in the scene with Mr. Worldwide, the Chinese actor is literally poked by someone O.S. with a STICK for his acting cue, and the stick shows up in the movie.
He’s not a Chinese actor. He’s some Turkic or Mongolic ethnic minority from Russia, probably Siberia.
While the movie is ridiculous, the score by Shostakovich is a masterpiece. There’s a wonderful rerecording of it on Naxos (originally for the label Marco Polo)
A glorious movie from a glorious channel on a glorious day .
Soviet military movies = Chinese CCP military movies
You always manage to make quite amusing videos. Yesterday I enjoyed your _Historia Augusta_ vid and laughed my 455 off, particularly when you mentioned Maximinus Thrax.
You should watch Mission To Moscow. It's an American propaganda film produced in the 40s to paint the Soviet Union as the good guys, even trying to legitimize Stalin's show trials.
*what the fuck*
American propaganda film? painting the Soviets as good guys? I mean, whaat?? only in the 40s I guess.
@@andresr.viguera9791 well there were reds in the US at the time, read the Red Decade
@@zackkilgore528 Did you manage to read the whole comment?
@@andresr.viguera9791 yeah
this movie is the definition of "would you like some movie in your propaganda?"
Challenge: sort the comments by newest.
You'll see a bunch of Stalin apologists, neo-commies, Holodomor deniers, etc.
It is really entertaining
Ok kiddo. Believe what the state and the rich want you Believe lol.
Wtf is "Holodomor"¿ They've "mor" - ed from "holod"? You mean Gretha was right, and Global Warming is the real deal? Don't make a fool of yourself, comrade, just write it in russian, as God intended. There isn't such thing as ukrainian language, anyway.
@@OrataKopata tf are you smoking? I want some
@@krebssfish9370 meth, duh. But please elaborate on the word "Holodomor". And please do not post the wiki article, I mean the word itself. Then you'll know. When you accomplish this quest, you are welcome to join me for a nice pipe of albanian meth.
9:32 There's a half truth here in that many axis deserters often travelled to Western front, or previous transfer there, because they believed they would get better treatment as a POW under the western Allies than they would as POW under the Soviets.
However it doesn't makes much sense in the Battle of Berlin.
Even if he wasn't aware the Allies already agreed that the Soviet alone would take Berlin, then the report of allied movements should had clued him the American weren't coming.
Then again it easy to see how he would be desperate enough to cling to such a delusional hope.
I think the implication was that the Americans would fight on the German side against the USSR?
@@1whywouldi I mean maybe, it's all nonsense, but the whole movie was filled with bits which basically suggest that the US and the UK were almost openly on the Nazis side and the movie being released when the Cold War started, it doesn't seem such a reach for the Soviets to present the Western Allies as basically the USSR enemy, which took Germany's place at the front. Again, it's bollocks, but it does make sense in the Cold War narrative.
@@1whywouldi operation unthinkable, restored wehrmacht divisions.. not far from truth
in the german propaganda circuit near the end of the war and in the deluded minds of many high ranked politicians and commanders and SS members there was a belief that the Nazis should make peace with the west or even make peace and ally with the west and theyd march east as a united 'aryan' front.
Himmler even released 6000 jews into sweden as a attempted olive branch for him to start negotiating this hypothetical peace although it never came.
@@WM-gf8zm yeah but Soviet Propaganda they bad mouth their Allies by saying they always supported the Nazis and ignore the fact that the Soviets and Germans chopped up Poland.
As a Czech this film is very dear to me and I do not appreciate the slandering of this masterpiece
*chimp noises*
As a Czech, this film is garbage. I thank the Soviets for kicking Germany’s ass though. Come and See is a much better Soviet-made WW2 film.
@@dobryshane Skvělej bait pro neznalce 10/10 I do reccomend Come and See you will surely not gag during the movie surely definitevly of course mhhm
@Anti-republican brazilian. Yiddish actually, I am eligible for citizenship in Israel but categorically refuse since Zionism is cringe
@Anti-republican brazilian. Debatable, but I find the concept of Ethnostates cringe, so I embrace bundism
"Czech", Hebrew name, speaks Yiddish, Asian guy pfp.
Mr. Worldwide
This practically had me rolling, thank you for making this XD
"This video is apolitical and is supposed to mock the Stalin propaganda in the USSR," - it doesn't make any sense XD
I've watched it
Found less propaganda than in any hollywood movie
11:28 Dude my man gotta work hard for those kisses from his homie.
The main character kills a man with his gun in every way except for just shooting it
Fun fact: the Soviets had to retake the Eastern European oil fields just to make this movie
I lost it when the dude threw his machine gun at him
kind of a miracle when later on, Soviet war movies actually became more artistic and impactful and less cringgey and absurd
For those who do not know this movie is available for free to watch on CZcams. The Russian Studio, who I am assuming owns the copyright, has uploaded the film into two parts for free on their CZcams channel. So you can thank that Russian film studio for doing that.
3:04 this is actually a myth. Stalin was shocked but never had a mental breakdown. Even after the invasion, he still continued with his daily duties.
...that's why he retired to his datcha ? A "myth" reported by party officials I guess...
@@MonTube2006 He never retired. He continued working.
@@MonTube2006 honestly I can't believe that an undoubtedly cunning person such as Stalin would be shocked to hear that the Nazi, who are so ideologically opposed and equally cunning, launched an attack. Maybe they did it earlier than expected, but everyone knew it was inevitable
Ok guys I didn't made that up just to be interesting. It's not an opinion either. Just do your researches and you'll see
@Bosnia sucks the boy was partying hard
Oh, there weren't a lot of mirros after the air raids but there was smoke all right.
They should have made a MST3K parody with Stalin and all of his unwilling dinner guests getting plastered while watching movies at 1 am
This is the last video I was expecting lmao
10:14 - I think the actor almost laughed himself after the second "impossible".
10:41 - Apparently the Germans at Krupp were right concerning the quality of Russian tank design.
That's the best similarity to Hitler I've seen in an actor in any film, except that he speaks Russian of course, but I think it wasn't until the 1960s with films like Where Eagles Dare that the combatants spoke their own languages with subtitles.