Why I'm Quitting Counter Strike 2
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- čas přidán 7. 10. 2023
- summit1g continues his grind in Counter Strike 2 but after this match, he has had enough!
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the amount of running one taps i've gotten in cs2 since its release has to be off the charts.
This is my one true gripe with CS2 because I'm afraid it's an intentional design choice to be more noob friendly. I've been running killed many times and headshot by players that are clearly dogshit after I die and spectate and would never hit the same shot in GO. I'm hoping it's just something to initially hook players by lowering the entry skill level that will be increased back to GO levels gradually. All other issues I'm confident will be fixed.
Agreed… between that, the headshot hit box being a beach ball, smg’s being far too accurate at medium-long range at full speed… such a step down from csgo.. hopefully they clean it up.
@@jamieeddolls5605 It's the same. You just blow.
@@avexxed6624 It definitely is not the same and I promise I'm much better than you.
@avexxed6624 You peaked at silver elite, sit down
CS2 is good, just needs to work on matchmaking, netcode, maps, rankings, community servers, workshop, grenades, movement, spray tracers, run and gun, hit reg, sound quality, economy, bunny hopping, mods and cheaters
matchmaking is bad but still better than GO, netcode is still better than GO, maps are completely fine (other than some movement things being broken,) rankings are an issue, community servers exist but the browser is broken, workshop does need to come back, nades are literally better tf?, movement is different but not bad, spray tracers do need improved, run and gun is the same (still needs worked on), hit reg is better, sound quality is significantly better, economy is just fine, bhopping does need worked on, and there are less cheaters in cs2 than go
a fps game where shots just randomly dont hit someone isnt good or worth playing, id rather keep sane and go play valorant, atleast when i die in valorant its cause im dogshit not cause the shitty sub tick system rolled some dice and decided to fuck me
@@emmieeeeeeeeeeeeeee you live in other dimension i think
@@choldo maybe i just don't blame everything on the game whenever i die?
@@emmieeeeeeeeeeeeeee ur just delusional hahaha
I think that subtick and the way shots are registered just made peeker's advantage that much more powerful. This game is so sided toward the aggressor.
Cheating is threw the roof
I'm getting pre fired in the weirdest ways. I've been playing cs for years and I just play source because of how open people are to cheating now.
@@hex6879 yeah, it's bad. So bad that they even disabled the replay system. They said it's due to "high traffic" but that hasn't been true for like a week. They just don't want people recording people using cheats and posting it.
@@LightLeo111 the cheaters just stream it themselves now lol. I've seen smaller cheating "creators" get more views than similar sized legit streamers.
@@odin4289 yeah, it's all f'n trash. I literally went back to play CS 1.6, Source and Day of Defeat. I'm done with the new sh*t. At least in the community servers it's super rare that someone will cheat. People know each other and can spot sus stuff really fast.
Yooo editors been killing it. I like the concept of subtitles matching the direction the calls are coming from
The edits on the flashes XDDD
Just like any other peep with editor skills within 20 hours. So yes lets give a big hand for the basics
@@BjarnegamingDk Yeah you don't even know about the parties holy
its like a per round experience for me. enemy headshots even while they are jumping and shooting through smoke.
sometimes all i need is to shoot them just once, and they panic and press the AIMBOT button and spin around and shoot me in the head.
literally a mp7 headshot from cat spin around 1 shot me after I dinked him and hit him 2 or 3 more times with ump crazy how much more azz cs2 is than csgo sadge
@@EntropicallyGamingoverall its fine. can piss you off sometimes. but its ok.
It's very difficult for me to be legitimately 1 tap pre-fired until they add demos and replays to all servers. I still love the game but god damn, when did everyone get so good?
When VAC stopped working.
This video sums up quite a few of our personal experiences on CS2 they came out with sub tick to solve an issue but the fix itself has become an issue we were so used to CSGO that it’s now just a clusterfuck not to mention bullets can now deviate in any direction
So they made people with lower ping have even more of an advantage but also made recoil more life like? seems like a fair trade off
@@Azureskies01 Its not "life like" recoil. The recoil animations are disconnected from the hit registration/fire timings because your shots are on subtick but animations are still tick-side. People say firing is weird because the muscle memory with the fire animations is still 64-tick while the shots are leaving in subtick.
as i already said somewhere else, valve will do anything just to not have 128tick servers
gonna be a few months till this game is ok competitively, there are so many little issues that are game-breaking
reason why s1mple and many top pros are taking a break from competing
@@Wad3y Yeah and when they come back they'll be washed up because the pro's that stuck through it just got better and better.
did you saw? the moving hitboxes from cs2 are totally BROKEN !
@@kishi8774 no they aren't. That was proven false. It's looking down that is broken.
My microphone doesnt fucking register still when I talk in-game, I wonder if they'll even fix it at all... Works everywhere else.
This is exactly how I feel playing. I play the same way I played GO, but with very different results. Especially when it comes to hit register. I am also fucking tired of getting one taped by running head shots. This current version is far from a tactical shooter. Much more friendly for run n gun style play. I would be playing CSGO exclusively had they not removed it. Not to mention the blatant fucking cheating.
It's the combination of your shots not registering and the mere infestation with cheaters. I'm annoyed by shots missing which should have been hits. But what drives me away from the game is my enemies at the same time going from 0:10 to 40:10 by 40 running headshots just because the game practically has no anticheat.
Fuck run and gun. That shit noob garbage gameplay like the occasional jump 1 tap. I guess valve is copying the worst parts of valorant.
Someone swings a corner and I’m dead before I can fire a shot lol
Probably because they're counter strafing. Play an off angle or counter peek them by constantly counter strafing in and out of your angle instead of staying still.
This guys pretty good, could probably make a career going pro.
He would be fire…
Nah man he seems like a noob that would die to his own molly... he shouldn't even bother
He is the coach of Team Molotov already.
Yeah i think he will be fire
That would be lit 🔥
Subtick has fixed the 64 tick problem!
And broke every other part of CS :)
I swear it has to be some animation desync for the running headshots. That's the only way it can feel so bad when you try it but looks like the enemy does it all the time.
Exactly.. thanks to subtick it feels and looks so weird.. the shots are accurate.. the one that shoots is happy.. the one that gets Hit.. is MAD because it looks and feels super Bad.
If they manage to fix that.. Subtick will be realls good.
true. i wont accuse valve of being so incompetent that you can literally run and shoot like this so it has to be the animations being off. still feels like ass tho and needs fixing asap
love how we can witness the rise of austin right in front of our eyes
My biggest complaint with the game so far is how absolutely abysmal premier is. Tried to compete with faceit, and didn't even come close. Literally little to no redeeming qualities to premier at all. I also think the whole one rank per map thing in mm is the dumbest thing ever. Like why?
But I'm having fun with cs2 still, mostly because it's still cs. The graphics are cool, I like the new loadout and buy system, I don't have a huge problem with the sounds like a lot of people do. So I plan to stay loyal to it, I have faith that valve will make things right.
Mm per map is so people that play mirage and get a high rank on it dont get paired with office high ranks that never play mirage. I like the concept it just needs a different approach
Premier is the new competitive. Competitive now is just a casual Premier. I use it to practice.
Map specific ranks is great, only thing that sucks is that each one needs 10 games won to get ranked, it's too much
@@xKrown its so useless because you cant even see peoples ranks anymore, my buddy got placed silver 4 on dust 2 and everytime we play together we're versing at least MG1 level players shit makes no sense
Hey he's playing with AustinCS, that dude's really good and i liked his tutorial vids a lot in GO. Easily the best player here, sucks you guys lost this one, but tilt is a killer :)
I'm still trying to figure out how we lost that game
happens to the best man.
bro thinks he's part of the team
@@vacant8brother is just mad he couldnt even get into que with summit lmao. Hating for no reason 💀
@@Tapsio who is mad? im confused
Honestly, its way to buggy to be taken seriously right now. Feels super arcade like and has a lot of issues system wise. Shots not lining up or firing the way they are supposed to. It's a bit of a mess right now, but deep down I still love it.
decent beta, can't wait for full release
beta? brother it is full release just broken
@@Wad3y did you hear about sarcasm bro :D
I'm not a pro at this game but there are times where your shots should connect even on the first shot as a headshot and the game just doesn't register it as a headshot. Shit is weird.
I struggle to believe when people say this unless you're global elite level atleast
@@jamieeddolls5605 the hit reg is genuinely so broken compared to csgo i was dmg on csgo and i got placed at 4k elo, tell me how that makes any sense
@@pingeee Eh what? Both dmg and 4k elo is trash so it makes sense...
Whats throwing everyone off right now that played CSGO a lot, is the bullets now come out exactly at the moment you click vs CSGO had a delay.
Look at the muzzle flash and bullet holes in walls, bullet holes come first then the muzzle flash.
Same CSGO animation, correct timing now,
the cat/flashbang thing is pretty damn good. I love it.
Strafe=Headshot :(
You know, watching last scene, in which you had not the time to watch behind the wall that a bullet arrived in your direction, it means that, probably that guy in parctigular, was using wall hack. H e was following you behind the wall, and was ready to shot whenever you show yourself.
That's not " Game " fault, is dishonest people fault, that should be annihilated, peacefully, or by force. A cheater, is cheater, will be a cheater. and will die as a cheater. There is no way to go back to " honesty ".
i actually feel like they changed hit registration since the game came out when it launched i felt like i was hitting every bullet now I shoot someone 7 times i only hit 2 or 3 bullets when i can see all my shots hitting them in the chest
This exactly I was telling my friends … at launch the hit reg was like cs go … but after few updates something went really wrong with hit reg
I feel like that when the test for cs2 came out (before the initial release) the servers and hit reg was better and now it's trash and or worse than csgo , Soo I think that we are all feeling something for sure ...
hmmm strange... shots hitting 7 times on a client's side and only twice on a server's side sounds suspiciously like clientside prediction failures to me... if i remember right the earliest days of quakeworld back in the late 1990s had this problem for a couple weeks and then something got fine tuned and the trouble stopped
the thing that doesnt make sense about this hypothesis though is clientside prediction should only be used if movement is involved?
and another strange aspect is that i think CSP was only needed in the earliest days when some players were still on 56kbps modems lol... all the university dorm players with T1s didnt need it that badly... with the modern high speed internet i dunno why it would be needed in CS2... unless CS2 was spamming the network with a whole ton of data... or if the network had lag issues?
but yeah... clientside "hallucinations" of bullets hitting when they "really" didnt sounds so similar to the early untuned versions of CSP!
i am just speculating outloud here and its possible i am only contributing to the noise and confusion, cuz at the end of the day i dunno for sure whats going on :p
hopefully whatever the issue is it can be addressed soon... it would be a shame for summit to strike any monitors with his fist! xD :p
This is the first thing i said after testing CS 2. And i haven't played CS in years.
My first games felt really good, everything just worked and I hit deagle headshots like a god, and then my accuracy magically disappeared and was never seen again. I still usually do above 100 adr which is ok but something feels off when I shoot, especially when I try to spray, it feels very random.
My screen: enemy gets a running 1 tap headshot on me.
Their screen: running, runs back for adjustment, crouches and sprays at me
I honestly feel the exact way summit does when I’m playing CS2
He's straight missing shots here and blaming it on hit reg. Counter Strike is an unforgiving game and he should know that, he only has himself and team to blame.
@@jamieeddolls5605 you should watch a video called CS2 has a major problem by ReusCS hitboxes are not aligning properly with character models atm.
@@jamieeddolls5605 how much they paying you cause this game is the messiest fps ive probably ever played
I feel the exact same way! Like even if your feet are cemented into the ground and crouching it's still no guarantee your 1st bullet will go in a straight line ffs! The game sucks and don't think they could have messed the game up any worse ffs!
@@jamieeddolls5605 no, the game definetely has some major issues i have recorded dozens of clips of invisible walls, invisible roofs, shit hit reg etc
the strafing head taps have been SO ANNOYING, its straight RNG on shot and i always miss my roll lmao
cs2 has better run and gun than valorant at this point, it doesn't help the bullet doesn't even go near your crosshair standing still.
Source level randomness.
COPE
@@rationxlity well thats just an exaggerated lie lol - feels absolutely fine.
Strafing headshots are completely normal unless you mean running headshots.
"Felt good, woke me up" That's the spirit
It is playing more like COD for sure. Without the sliding and diving animations.
Definitely not ready which is why I haven't played much Comp, just messing around with friends for now.. once the updates have calmed down and things are running smoother then I will play Comp.
What pisses me off the most is they had to update cs2 over csgo...why not make it two games because we saw this shit coming from a mile away...RIP CSGO it was great once.....
Because they wanted the servers that were being used for GO to be used on CS2 so they didn't split the playerbase and have inefficient unused servers. Common sense. Think
I'm scared to even hold an angle now
"Hey guys, summit1g here, just got out of bed, I'm old now, my back hurts if I move wrong and my wrists hurt from all these flicks in my younger years. The only flicks I have left in me are towards my teammate's heads with random objects which include bullets. I'm old now but that's okay because I have a lovely community and friends to enjoy life with." - interpretation of this video from some random guy on the internet, crismodin, circa 10/12/2023.
It's been proven that peeker's advantage is very bad in this game along with other very bad network issues. "Bad" as in worse than CS:GO
Gear fear is the big problem here omegalul
What? Peeker's advantage is as high as it is. Everyone is peeking as wide as you can.
peekers advantages is higher than it ever was in csgo right now lol...
I think hes saying "its bad" as in, peekers have a big advantage, which is bad and historically has never been the case in cs before.@@Ezisxd
@@EzisxdI think he means the issue of how strong peekers advantage is, is very bad
if you go to practice and use sv_showimpacts, the blue and red hit far from each other even standing still, it get's worst the more you move/strafe
the cat on the flashbangs got me. love it as always sumsum
Yo keep it up with the cs content. Killin it
He said he quitting
@@Deezsirrerhe’ll be back when changes are good
@@Wad3y imagine came back and the guy own this game still dont care how uncomplete the game still in and goes back playing dota2 on his office (gaben)
when changes are good. see you in a few years. I agree with summit. this is not csgo anymore... other games where its at now and it feels like this was just another money grab through micro transactions for skins. Everyone got hyped prior to release pushing item costs up and then didnt deliver. (They removed more modes and maps then they added).I sold my skins and im out personally. We will see if they ever feel like fixing the game. Hopefully they release csgo as its own thing again so the people who grew up with the game can play the fun one again :/
@@Idontwantaunsmh i feel you but I still have fun playing the game. They even came out with a new mode.
There have been numerous times where I see my shots hitting the bodies of enemies (with blood being splattered) and yet when I die, I see no damage dealt. What in the actual fuck. Has nothing to do with ping btw.
that happens a lot in CS2 for me as well
the desync in this game is CRAZY, they destroyed a great game.
Thought I was the only one. It's insane:( feels actually worse
5:34 "subscribe to make summit feel better". Got me on that one. 😁
the editing just makes it all so much better xD
same experience here, it's a lottery if your bullets hit where you're aiming, meanwhile they're running full speed around a corner and have 100% accuracy and insta-kill you. I uninstalled this crap
thank you
love train being the best hype man, gets carried, but we always need 1 of those guys on the team.
06:25 that might be the most sus train shit i've heard so far LOL fucking love that mf
one of my games last night, i got instantly killed by guys running around corners, probably 9 out of ten times. only had time to even react maybe 6 times the whole game. even when i did react in time to get a shot off first they would still somehow kill me. shit sucked
Least he didn’t punch his monitor this time lol
CS2 you gotta abuse the desync and terrible subtick it has rn and swing everything slow peeking and holding just doesn’t work
Most Streamers Chat: Nice Try. My Chat: What are you doing you suck!!!???!!!
I tried out CS2 casual matches to see what the hub-bub was about after quitting the game when it went F2P and Danger Zone came out because I got tired of cheaters on valve mm servers. I know my crosshair placement and something feels off with the aiming in this game.
This is legit every game how i feel lol
The guy you played called Panduh is one of the biggest Destiny 2 streamers
That "Okayy" at the beginning of the video.. Yea.. I felt that.
Today we found out the reason for so many shots missing - its because the hitboxes actually don't line up with the player models lmao. How did they release this game like it is
Really?! That’s the exact same issue CSGO had hahahaha
thats been debunked already, the hitbox command hasnt been displaying the hitboxes correctly
@@BukkuCSouls "Had" but they ended up fixing, and for them to still have it broken on their brand new version of the game, is concerning.
@@VultCS yeah that’s why i said had lol. I know they fixed it
Feel like thats been an issue since cs 1.4 wouldnt surprise me if it actually wasnt right 😂
Oh no..! An aging noob who wears hats indoors is quitting the game..! :( such important, very big care.
my thoughts
exactly, i fucking despise that most csgo players blame the game when they suck cause now the players actually has hitboxes and not 1m away instead where you see them
IDK if that's the panduh I'm thinking of, but if it is, that guys a D2 legend.
"crouching single" xD
I used to be really good at CS during the OG and Source days. My skill started to drop off in CS:GO and now I'm just kinda dogshit in CS2. I like to think it's not just me getting older.
You'll be back. We always do.
This is the way 🥴
prolly not for a few months till changes are made the game is in a really bad state so many glitches and whatnot
some of the top pros are taking a break including s1mple bc of the state of the game
They said that about Blizzard' games. Look at the state they're in.
@@nivyan Still millions of players every month. Nothing in comparison. Cs been out 25+ years over 5 different games
@@deangallagher2760 I'm not comparing games mate.
You're saying he'll be back. I'm saying: Look at Blizzard' games - they've had the most loyal fanbase ever, but now they're a fraction of what they were and all of the games are in freefall, except Diablo Immortal - which we both know nobody will play in 1-2 years.
People leave for better games when there's better alternatives - and CS2 has nothing but alternatives.
That's actually why I don't play CS period. Your bullets don't go where you're shooting... if you watch when you're shooting there's massive aim cone on every weapon its retarted. Plus you move in slow-mo
cs2 feels wanky(movement and shooting wise like getting killed or dying) just imo lmk what y'all think
we've played this game for so long we know everything. They shouldnt have given us tiers to customize they should have just unlocked all of it. It's a total nightmare trying to customize it at all. Because 1 trip and your total crap.
The pickers advantage is even more absurd than in valorant. There is legit no point holding angles.
"no cap, i'm over CS"
next week:
*plays more cs*
I like close games. Sure, it sucks to lose, but it wasn't that bad.
I’m waiting for an operation but I’ll play for fun, can’t play competitively atm.
@Summit1G you should try Squad with the new ICO patch, I think you'd like it. It's a bit of tarkov but less tryhard with a lot social interaction as silly as Sea of Thieves.
Blaming it on the game is so stupid, cs2 has clear peeker advantage and summit loses fights while peeking (12:20). The enemy team was hitting their shots and playing well, there's no downplaying their great comeback by blaming the game for it. Also sum was obviously not in his best day: messing up his HEs and smokes, dinking teammates, missing headshots on static targets.. he said it himself at 1:04 "that's bad aiming"
at 12:20 that should be a hs but for some reason game said "no" thats why its a joke, his with a AK, idk if you know this but ak kills with 1 bullet to the head if its not a wallbang 🤓
@@otamuralha706 that should 100% not be a hs, watch it at 0.25 he underflicked and shot the first bullet to the right of the head and then over-compensated recoil and shot at the freaking box next to the CT's knee, it was a joke of a flick, summit was just tired and you're high on copium. He had all the advantages in the game: peeker's advantage, right eye peek, enemy was crouching so bigger hitbox, better weapon and YET he messed it up, no excuse. The other guy hit the first bullet and summit was naded to 90hp so yeah he got outplayed
Games not even out fully community "we quit" 😂
You think this is quit worthy? Try having a random problem with de_overpass that force restarts your computer every time you join it. Didn't realize it was map specific until after the 2nd abandon and -2000 elo later(1000 each time). Fixed with a simple reinstall of the game.
I just started playing this god forsaken mess and now I have a crippling gambling addiction
I uninstalled yesterday… not permanently but hitreg has been so frustrating. Taking a week off
is this actually his channel or a fan channel. the description is always written in 3rd person
the hitboxes on moving and jumping players....that's why I'm good on that one chief
The hitboxes are fine ffs it's misinformation. The only issue was when looking down and they just fixed that today.
First death perfectly describes all my hours on cs2
What are the silhouettes at 12:40 when sum is spectating train?
bugged spectator mode with x-ray
Im not playing the game at all, stutterings all over the place and I refuse to tweak for hours to find a solution just to be able to play it... (computers not the issue)
"they naded halls" hahahahaha
Only problem im having with cs2 is that it always seems to be a complete stomp on one of the teams, sometimes mine, sometimes enemy, but im yet to have an actual close game with similar/same skill level enemies on premier. Other than that the game is just nicer looking csgo 🤷🏼♂️
I think the game has major Hitreg issues that favor a team. I've put a full mag into an enemy point blank only to do 54 in 2, and they've done the same to me... valve pls fix
@@DiabloMet i kinda get what you’re saying and i do sometimes feel the same, but i dont think im high enough up the ladder to say if its an actual problem or just me being unable to spray control for shit
Nah... after 4000 hours of GO and a little over half of that in MM, Wingman... this game feels worse in some ways. Namely, when spraying... things I muscle memorized in GO don't work in CS2. Like being with 5 meters of a guy and quickly firing off 6 bullets before transferring. This worked in GO. It works maybe half the time in CS2. And honestly... being a good player and feeling like the game holds you back is so so frustrating. Not to mention... I often have people on my team who don't know to walk or don't know looking away from a defuse makes it stop or don't understand why crossfire in a 2v1 makes it nearly impossible for the 1 guy to win.... just a really frustrating experience overall.
@@bghost3636 exactly its so random sometimes my sprays hit sometimes they completely miss its fucking infuriating, ive noticed my team always seems to have way higher ping compared to the other team and we always get fucking destroyed, not to mention getting dogshit teammates consistently every match
this editor is fcking gas, keep them on
i paid for cs:go, i did not pay for cs2 .. why is cs2 in my library? what if i wanted to play cs:go again? too bad, you cant... you kidding me? this is one of the dumbest things gaben has ever done
If the valve admins are the ones selling the cheats then no real anti-cheat will ever be implemented just placebo's
The hitboxes in this game are broken it was released un finished
Alternative title: Old man quits when he can't compete with the young'ns anymore.
bro will be playing it next week lol
That's how it'll always be with CS. No escaping it
The stream Summit did the other day was so toxic lol, he was banning people every second it seemed hahaha
Lol the inferno experience
At 11:55 like u cant even see him and it wasn’t even kill trough wall on counter
I had the same reaction to beta 7.
Bro's mad cuz he's getting out-aimed :D
Did Sovietwombles editor start working for Summit?
the flash cat has me deceased
So many weird shots. Like people not even visible just lighting summit up.
summits team simply got outplayed, no reason to quit over that lmfao
That's been the issue with the NA scene for a while now. Everyone wants to be the hero and crumbles the moment they face adversity. Then they moved to Valorant, and now Europeans are starting to beat them there too. It's a complete mentality diff.
They updated hitboxes🥳
The 1 taps when people run out at you from cover are too much, it's the same reason I stopped playing EFT, the peekers advantage and desync just fucks the game, you have literally no time to react, by the time someone wide swings from cover, you're already dead, lol.
Probably because they're counter strafing for fucks sake. Instead of crying, get better. Hold an off angle if you're confident or utilise peekers adv yourself by strafing in and out of the angle you're holding.
Anyone else not digging csgo2? I feel its slower than csgo, hitboxes lagging behind enemy models , bomb explosion radius does 76 damage plus when your deep in A ramp on mirage for example is way too much. Headshot dinking sounds werent needed and can be distracting. Also a lot of customization options arent there escpially for laptop users who need certain settings for a smooth experience
As a forever silver noob, I get comfort from the fact that pro's miss shots they didn't miss in csgo.
My hair has gotten more grey since cs2....
You know your getting older when you start complaining about change. People that learn how to adapt are the people out playing you. Just faster than you on their 'headfeet'.
was this before de hitbox fix?