Kool Herc Did NOT Start Hip Hop! Neither Did Jamaicans Or Puerto Ricans!

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  • Kool Herc Did NOT Start Hip Hop! Neither Did Jamaicans Or Puerto Ricans!
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  • @SpotBoogie
    @SpotBoogie Před rokem +153

    Jamaicans were not outside with the big sound systems before black Americans.. Our folks were throwing Block parties in the streets blasting music n shit back in the 50s and 60s before Jamaicans even got here. My moms told me that..

    • @mrrafiyq
      @mrrafiyq Před rokem +39

      Jamaica is a THIRD world nation, who if you were to look at videos, of Jamaica in the 1960's-1980's. You will see a patchwork of SPEAKERS put together & they used ONE turntable up until the 1980's. That's according to U-Roy, and SOUND systems came from the USA, NOT the Caribbean Islands.
      We were Jamming on the block in Brooklyn, in the late 60's with TWO turntables & large speakers. This brother Minnesota, is GIVING credit for JUST being there. I was born in 1964, but my older sisters boyfriends were DJs in 1973, with TWO turntables & they rhymed on the mic, and this was Brooklyn, NY.

    • @fivestar000
      @fivestar000 Před rokem +1

      😂we created hip hop and we been had sound systems way back before you guys knew what that was… we gave y’all self identity because no black man in America knew they were African 😂 Marcus Garvey had to leave Jamaica to teach y’all who you were 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 fucking dumb American

    • @EVERLASTING12000
      @EVERLASTING12000 Před rokem +24

      NO PART of record players/turntables, microphones, speakers, etc. WERE ever manufactured in Jamaica. EVERY PART were manufactured in the U.S. Which would make those things IMPORTS into Jamaica. As such, how would Jamaicans have access to those, and not FBAs, but instead FBAs had to wait for Jamaicans to bring all that to us. Make it make sense.

    • @Originalking
      @Originalking Před rokem +11

      @@EVERLASTING12000 Another Exactly! They trying to colonize it bruh this sh*t wyld asf

    • @Bb99bb99kb
      @Bb99bb99kb Před rokem

      Facts it’s videos of Blk Americans in Harlem outside in the 60s

  • @hazeblak1417
    @hazeblak1417 Před rokem +156

    We never ever understood how kool Herc is the founder of Hip Hop when Black Americans been doing this since the 20s

    • @marcsantos5176
      @marcsantos5176 Před rokem

      You sound stupid and do not know shit about the culture….

    • @TOITN
      @TOITN Před rokem +10

      You can't just keep pushing back the clock.

    • @idiotu668
      @idiotu668 Před rokem +29

      @@TOITN Our music, we do what we want...... be happy with Raggay

    • @garyscott4104
      @garyscott4104 Před rokem +2

      EXPLAIN PLEASE.. I do know that block partys were already taking place in nyc in the 60s.(at minimum) No Mcs and actual djs,(outside of playing 1 record at a time),of course. So basically,what did HERC do differently, with his newly founded knowledge of what was going on it Jamaica???

    • @TOITN
      @TOITN Před rokem

      @@idiotu668 you really are an idiot. Imagine not being able to spell

  • @AK-fj8yo
    @AK-fj8yo Před rokem +214

    Black American music and culture in the 70s was INCREDIBLE. Black Panthers. Funk music. That's what created hip hop.

  • @LuvAndNotH8
    @LuvAndNotH8 Před rokem +77

    I’m Jamaican and I don’t take no offence to this. FBA’s created hip hop. There were some influence from some of the Emcee’s later on in the 80’s who happened to have a Caribbean background that had a certain influence on the sound of that era of the music
    The system has used stuff like this to cause division need to get shit right.

  • @PAHZAZZ
    @PAHZAZZ Před rokem +59

    Jamaicans did NOT have the sound systems before BLACK Americans BLACK Americans were throwing BLOCK parties with BIG SYSTEMS Jamaicans barely had their country in order the reason they even had music knowledge was because of a station that was playing BLACK American Music they did not know what to do that is FALSE on the sound systems they didn't do anything but copy what BLACK Americans were doing if you going to put knowledge out there put the right knowledge out there💯

    • @robertjones1940
      @robertjones1940 Před rokem +3

      Lmao... Jamaican sounds system from the 1930s ..

    • @TOITN
      @TOITN Před 11 měsíci +2

      Name your soundsystem. None of you can do it, I've seen hundreds of you. It's like it's 1 account.

    • @aferrer74
      @aferrer74 Před 11 měsíci +3

      We influence u black Americans 🤣🤣🤣

    • @joshuapeoples6795
      @joshuapeoples6795 Před 9 měsíci +6

      ​@@aferrer74Black Americans don't listen to reggae like that. We don't even think about y'all at least us from Cali... I'm cool with Jamaicans too but stop the cap 🧢

    • @aferrer74
      @aferrer74 Před 9 měsíci

      @joshuapeoples6795 another thing nigga , the father of black history was a Puerto Rican 🇵🇷 😂 respect your father my nigga 😂😂😂😂😂🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷look it up . We had to educate u pathetic ignorant clown FBA about Your own history 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @thetruthhurts8618
    @thetruthhurts8618 Před rokem +104

    He's wrong about Jamaicans being the first with big sound systems and bringing it outside. We been doing it and we did it first. They got it from us. Michael Waynetv showed that! He must have missed that part! They got everything from us!

    • @thelastdon9000
      @thelastdon9000 Před rokem +6

      YeA that's a fact

    • @summoofit4874
      @summoofit4874 Před rokem +8

      The sound system culture in Jamaica started in the 50s look up Duke Reid

    • @thetruthhurts8618
      @thetruthhurts8618 Před rokem +33

      @@summoofit4874 😂😂They got everything from us Black Americans! The Jamaican legends already admitted this years ago! Look that up!

    • @summoofit4874
      @summoofit4874 Před rokem +3

      @@thetruthhurts8618 America never has and does not have a sound system culture

    • @jamalvines2133
      @jamalvines2133 Před rokem

      BLACK AMERICANS HAD SOUND SYSTEMS WHEN WE HAD BLOCK PARTIES. WAY BEFORE HIP HOP ALL OVER THE COUNTRY

  • @michaelhoward3686
    @michaelhoward3686 Před rokem +30

    I'm happy that Doggie and Minnesota had touched on this subject. I know that it's very it's a sensitive matter , but the truth must prevail.

  • @AK-fj8yo
    @AK-fj8yo Před rokem +87

    Puerto Ricans and Jamaicans had NO SWAG to even create hip hop

    • @defrocker0569
      @defrocker0569 Před rokem +3

      if Puerto Ricans didn't have swag, then how did they, whom some were mixed in Rock Steady, enhance break dancing.

    • @randee4550
      @randee4550 Před rokem +2

      You can SMD

    • @BoricuaNyc
      @BoricuaNyc Před rokem +2

      Bad Bunny is the BIGGEST Spanish rapper today and Bad Bunny took rappers spot off the billboard charts 🤣🤣
      💎🇵🇷💎🇵🇷💎🇵🇷💎🇵🇷💎

    • @jamalvines2133
      @jamalvines2133 Před rokem +20

      Y'ALL KEEP NAMING 3OR 4 JAMAICANS AND PUERTO RICANS. WHICH CAME LATE WHEN THEY COPIED US. PROVES OUR POINT

    • @defrocker0569
      @defrocker0569 Před rokem +8

      @@jamalvines2133 We gotta stop this division shit, it's not getting anywhere and its corny.

  • @Katorican
    @Katorican Před 5 měsíci +4

    PS im 56 yrs old lived on Fteley ave. In The Bronx, half a block away from The Bronxdale projects , used to cut through Rosedale park on my way to Skatin Palace , I remember them settin up their equiptment getting the electricity from the lights in the park , Im proud to be a witness to the birth of HipHop !

  • @robertjaycarmichael7501
    @robertjaycarmichael7501 Před rokem +61

    This dude said Jamaicans had they sound systems before we did, THE founders of reggae said they copied our sound systems

    • @DJB635
      @DJB635 Před rokem +14

      I Seen that clip.....It's on YOU TUBE.

    • @mbp333
      @mbp333 Před rokem +2

      I could be wrong but I'm coming back with some serious Elders to kill the rumors Dead,I may not have bambatta but I have? Stay tuned.

    • @dannybravo8815
      @dannybravo8815 Před rokem +14

      @@mbp333 man leave bambatta the butt banger tf where he is. Please

    • @rodgoode8624
      @rodgoode8624 Před 10 měsíci

      If you believe that then you believe Trump is the President!

    • @rodgoode8624
      @rodgoode8624 Před 10 měsíci

      Americans before Disco didn’t have sound systems…. The were entertained by live bands. Plus in Jamaica where sound systems were originated the “Selectors” (DJ) Never had to worry about white people (KARENS) calling the police or the KU Klux Klan to shut it down. People need to think & remember that the Negroes in America was 3/5 s man.

  • @TheHiphopgems
    @TheHiphopgems Před rokem +45

    He's wrong about the Jamaicans having sound systems first

    • @claudiakramer4516
      @claudiakramer4516 Před rokem +1

      I think he said samples

    • @sls554
      @sls554 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Nope

    • @sls554
      @sls554 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Yes, he is wrong.

    • @sls554
      @sls554 Před 10 měsíci +1

      African Americans Invented Reggae Music.

    • @sls554
      @sls554 Před 10 měsíci +1

      African Americans Invented Reggae.

  • @chrisedwards3214
    @chrisedwards3214 Před rokem +28

    James brown
    Pigmeat Markham
    Last poets
    Gil Scott heron
    Dolenite
    Parliament funkdelic
    Sly stone
    Jimi Hendrix
    Curtis Mayfield
    Rick James
    Earth, wind and fire

    • @BoricuaNyc
      @BoricuaNyc Před rokem +3

      Last Poets-Felipe Luciano🇵🇷

    • @zxcccccc1
      @zxcccccc1 Před rokem +3

      Gil Scott Heron was very talented and the Last Poets have created classic pieces art.

    • @EVERLASTING12000
      @EVERLASTING12000 Před rokem

      @@BoricuaNyc
      Show us your PR equivalents of James brown, Pigmeat Markham, Last poets, Gil Scott heron, Dolenite, Parliament funkdelic, Sly stone, Jimi Hendrix, Curtis Mayfield, Rick James, Earth, wind and fire. YOU CAME UP WITH ONE NAME of a PR that was in a group that consisted of MAJORITY FBAs. GTFOH.

    • @EVERLASTING12000
      @EVERLASTING12000 Před 5 měsíci +1

      "Last Poets-Felipe Luciano🇵🇷" ---@@BoricuaNyc
      Not an original member. He came LATER. A familiar theme with your kind.

    • @dontgettriggered8202
      @dontgettriggered8202 Před 23 dny

      @@zxcccccc1last Poets didn’t like Hip Hop.

  • @74DNA78
    @74DNA78 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Im puerto rican and Cuban. Born nyc 1974 and i 100% agree with the statements made in this video. Long live real hip-hop

  • @jack1uptone963
    @jack1uptone963 Před rokem +78

    They was depending on Foundational Black Americans not taking the lie serious enough.

    • @Originalking
      @Originalking Před rokem +5

      Always, they not gonna stop trying tho, they have trash money from corporations. We have to stand up on this and politics. These people be speaking for us and be on some bs

    • @jayjones251
      @jayjones251 Před rokem +6

      Or thinking we were gonna be on that kumbaya crap with our culture.

    • @bobbyjefferson1973
      @bobbyjefferson1973 Před rokem +4

      Segregation was a blessing in disguise...

    • @sls554
      @sls554 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Nope God always look after people who have been did wrong. This Lie herc, baambaata, flash saying they started Hip Hop is a lie.

    • @sls554
      @sls554 Před 10 měsíci

      @@jayjones251 Well, African Americans are in trouble because the world is involved in our music and some are going to take over. Some will be okay

  • @taylorgordon4920
    @taylorgordon4920 Před rokem +15

    He forgot to say them Jamaicans be wearing travel fox 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @BeyBrightOfficial
    @BeyBrightOfficial Před rokem +46

    It’s blasphemy for West Indians and Hispanics to say that they didn’t get their love of Hip Hop culture from Black Americans! It’s a known fact that the Caribbean and Hispanic cultures hated Black Americans and would tell their kids not to deal with Blacks from the 1940’s thru the 1970’s! In addition, their respective households were playing their own music like Bob Marley, Peter Tosh, Jimmy Cliff, Hector Lavoe, etc. Black Americans let those Latino and Caribbean kids be down because Black Americans don’t discriminate against others. We may have snapped on them and their style of clothes but they were down with the brothers and they were influenced by the Black American swag. Of course both cultures were in the hip hop mix from the beginning and contributed greatly to the culture but not as the originators! That distinction goes strictly to Black Americans! 💯🎶

    • @evertonroper5106
      @evertonroper5106 Před rokem +8

      BVE official as a Jamaican myself who was born in 1960 but moved to America in 1972 I do agree there was some Jamaicans but not all were very Ignorant like that but Iam from a family that dates back to the Russell Simmons Era and they were all into house music from the Studio 54 Days Paradise Garage, so we had more exposure than the average Jamaican my uncle was once Grace Jones accountant also BVE I’ve experienced most of what you mentioned as far as being snapped on but that was how we would communicate with each other and eventually we start to adapt to the American way of dressing and shit was mad kool after that because snapping on us made us step our game up lol

    • @thdoom81
      @thdoom81 Před rokem

      what i find funny about black americans is they are always saying "black immigrants" don't love them while they always hide the fact they really insult africans and jamaicans when they come to america..they try to play innocent yet they are VERY nasty to immigrants...

    • @thdoom81
      @thdoom81 Před rokem

      @@evertonroper5106 stop being a bitch man...black americans are not friendly to black immigrants..they tease and mock them throughout high school and try to act innocent

    • @ColtanFree
      @ColtanFree Před rokem +2

      I guess Marcus Garvey hated Black Americans too.... That's why the UNIA spread all across Black Amrican communities....Ya'll cats are silly.

    • @BeyBrightOfficial
      @BeyBrightOfficial Před rokem +1

      @@ColtanFree No he didn’t actually! Marcus was the greatest champion of Black liberation of all time in my opinion. However, not all West Indian/Latino people shared his love and vision for all Blacks to be united as one and were heavily influenced by white American Propaganda towards Black Americans. I’ve had countless conversations with Caribbean/Latino friends who have admitted that their families were against them dealing with Black Americans once they got to America. Just be honest about it. 💯

  • @muckmuckthageneral2691
    @muckmuckthageneral2691 Před rokem +94

    We got love for our caribbean brothers and sisters, but the truth is the truth.

  • @inmyopinion651
    @inmyopinion651 Před rokem +21

    Hip hop moved fast because I worked in NYC in 1982 and go to Washington Square Park for lunch and by then they was already breaking and music outside. That was my first experience with hip hop. I didn't realize there was any argument that Black people started hip hop.

    • @mbp333
      @mbp333 Před rokem +9

      82 is ten years afterwards.

    • @inmyopinion651
      @inmyopinion651 Před rokem +8

      @@mbp333 Yes that was my point. Even by then hip hop was all over the city so this goes back like you said

    • @zxcccccc1
      @zxcccccc1 Před rokem

      @@inmyopinion651 yes there were already records out.

    • @markdaniels4178
      @markdaniels4178 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Black Americans started hip-hop and rap to be specific

    • @robluv4592
      @robluv4592 Před 7 měsíci

      I'm ur dreams Dominican Puerto Rican Cubans only NYC blacks created hip hop hip hop NYC culture

  • @juxx8889
    @juxx8889 Před rokem +27

    Herc came and watched Mario play in bronxdale and mimicked him

    • @mbp333
      @mbp333 Před rokem +13

      YEP......... & Mario was spinning break's.

    • @BoricuaNyc
      @BoricuaNyc Před rokem +3

      And Tex🇵🇷was DJaying with King Mario since day one
      🗽✊🏿🇵🇷🗽✊🏿🇵🇷🗽✊🏿🇵🇷🗽

    • @juxx8889
      @juxx8889 Před rokem +6

      Also grandwizzard Theodore lived with Mario for a lil while and also jazzy Jay played with Mario to before joining Bam

    • @7thstspeakez280
      @7thstspeakez280 Před rokem +1

      Jazzy Jay supposed to be half Rican,ijs.

    • @juxx8889
      @juxx8889 Před rokem +1

      He's either Rican or not not supposed 🤣🤣🤣

  • @RealDealy
    @RealDealy Před rokem +103

    Jamaicans DIDN'T have the sound systems before us. Their first sound systems were PA SYSTEMS!
    Black American NYC Dj'S who did disco were the first to have cabinet speakers, and use two turntables, with an mc. Jamaicans didn't start using two turntables until the early 1980's according to DJ Rory from Stonelove sound system
    Kool Herc said on Combat Jack's podcast he was influenced by AMERICAN SOUND SYSTEMS NOT JAMAICAN CAUSE WE HAD A MORE CLEANS SOUND
    Grandmaster Flowers was from “Farragut Houses” in Brooklyn. He was the first, next to Francis Grasso, to use two turntables to mix music in 1965/1969
    It was Kool Herc's sister who put him on the source with bambatta, and flash, to be the fathers of hip hop, and we went along with it cause the older people were on drugs, died or in prison
    Jamaican elders ALL say they got toasting from US. The radio djs' were toasting on the radio from 1950's-1980's which Jamaicans were emulating. They told us this, its NOT my opinion
    BLACK AMERICANS LEARN YOUR DAMN HISTORY!
    For in depth lesson on hip hop origins watch "Culture: Debunk Busta Rhymes and Pete Rock's Outrageous comments"

    • @trillfate4479
      @trillfate4479 Před rokem +19

      Word. Black Americans been having block parties outside with sound systems

    • @RealDealy
      @RealDealy Před rokem +16

      @@trillfate4479 Coxsonn Dodd said his whole inspiration to start his "downbeat sound system" was watching black americans in Florida having parties outside
      Also, it was the first time he saw a jukebox, and that's why his first sound system looked like a speaker that's a jukebox
      AND, it wasn't big cabinet speakers like people believe, it was a small speaker

    • @uptownbladebrown
      @uptownbladebrown Před rokem +6

      FACTS 💯💯💯💯

    • @n8b525
      @n8b525 Před rokem +4

      facts! lets get this history all the way right

    • @evertonroper5106
      @evertonroper5106 Před rokem +4

      Jamaicans had sound systems in Jamaica way before hip hop I was born in Jamaica in 1960 I came to America in 1972 and before I was born we used sound systems when I came here and started really doing the party scene our sound systems sounded better than the ones here we showed a lot of Dj here how to use different amps for bass, midrange, and treble which we referred to as top end also when American Djs would play reggae their sound systems could not carry that reggae deep bass it would come out distorted facts

  • @Mikejones-zg6xg
    @Mikejones-zg6xg Před rokem +41

    We already know black Americans started hip hop and no one else

    • @akakaskie
      @akakaskie Před rokem +5

      Fr

    • @m.o.btheworld4094
      @m.o.btheworld4094 Před 9 měsíci

      They always trying to steal and claim something from African Americans

    • @samuelvillanueva9956
      @samuelvillanueva9956 Před měsícem

      Puerto Ricans were there break dancing and graffiti in the bronx was full of puerto ricans
      Blacks don’t even own hip hop😂
      Blacks started something then let someone else take it?

    • @wesonwednesday
      @wesonwednesday Před měsícem

      You’re missing the point everybody is trying to rewrite history and future generations will believe the lies

  • @alphamac108
    @alphamac108 Před rokem +48

    Green Eyes also said that the Jamaicans were not the first to bring out loud speakers..
    Foundational Black Americans were the first!!!

    • @thetruthhurts8618
      @thetruthhurts8618 Před rokem +1

      FACTS! U-Roy even said they would come over here to pick fruits and vegetables and send records and equipment back to Jamaica. This guy is off! Puerto Ricans didn't hang with us because they were racist. Even some Puerto Ricans admit that. It's still the same way for the most part!🇺🇸✊🏿

    • @loopygod1357
      @loopygod1357 Před rokem +3

      Green eyed Genie said he got fresh due to how they treated him when he got evicted from bronxdale. He learned how to pic pockets from living in the shelter in Manhattan.

    • @sls554
      @sls554 Před 11 měsíci +3

      Amen African Americans DJs were in the park first playing Hop.

  • @The_Niburu
    @The_Niburu Před rokem +23

    Fat Joe so you're gonna look at me with a straight and tell me that back in the 70s puerto ricans had control over the english language enough to write and recite wild lyrics and ill metaphorls man?. Hell yall still dont have control over the english language enough to write mad lyrics and ill metaphors b. .And the jury is still out on how ya-came up with salsa, reggaeton, and dembow.

    • @BoricuaNyc
      @BoricuaNyc Před rokem +5

      NewYorkRicans🇵🇷🗽were born in NYC🗽
      🗽🇵🇷🗽🇵🇷🗽🇵🇷🗽🇵🇷🗽

    • @7thstspeakez280
      @7thstspeakez280 Před rokem +1

      Salsa came from Cuba, Panamanian Spanish reggae and Jamaican reggae sparked reggaeton along with 90's Hip-Hop, dembow is a Jamaican term while being Dominicans answer to reggaeton. P.R. didn't create any music without outside influence although I heard that somehow Bachata was supposed to have had it's origins in P.R. but that's sus.

    • @twongreen9968
      @twongreen9968 Před rokem

      ​@@BoricuaNycwe don't care y'all still not our people and didn't create nothing

    • @RemoteAdminJayJay2
      @RemoteAdminJayJay2 Před rokem +3

      Dem Bow is literally a Shabba Ranks song. Daddy Yankee came up with the name "Reggaeton" to appeal to the west.

    • @claudiakramer4516
      @claudiakramer4516 Před rokem +1

      They can't even do it now

  • @robrob3894
    @robrob3894 Před rokem +14

    Hip Hop comes from The Black Power Movement, Busta must’ve bumped his head talking that nonsense also Black People were The First B Boys I’m from The Bronx The Puerto Rican’s watched The Black Brothers and copied them

    • @BoricuaNyc
      @BoricuaNyc Před rokem +2

      I was there and half of the NewYorkRicans🇵🇷🗽were dark skin like Roberto Clemente and Alpo Martinez.
      And they were doing their thing since day one.
      The hip hop museum has footage, photos and videos
      🗽🇵🇷🗽🇵🇷🗽🇵🇷🗽🇵🇷🗽

    • @robrob3894
      @robrob3894 Před rokem +4

      @@BoricuaNyc Do you know how rare it was for someone to have video footage of any park jam or community room where the brothers were rocking, people barely had $$ for equipment. CERTAIN parties and jams Puerto Rican’s and Cubans were there but it was sprinkles of them all of them were NOT with it. I’m from West 174th St. and I also have family that’s born and raised from Bronx River PJ’s. That video footage captured a rare moment that some Puerto Rican’s and Cubans were at a jam that’s was NOT all across the board, Charlie Chase stated that Puerto Rican’s called what the Black Brothers and Sisters were doing Jungle Bunny Music, let’s state TRUTH NOT FACTS

    • @BoricuaNyc
      @BoricuaNyc Před rokem +2

      @@robrob3894 Joe Conzo has all the footage, photos and videos. And you counting the light skin NewYorkRicans🇵🇷that’s why you think it was a few🤣but the dark skin NewYorkRicans🇵🇷🗽that look like Roberto Clemente and Alpo Martinez were there too
      🗽🇵🇷✊🏾🗽🇵🇷✊🏾🗽🇵🇷✊🏾🗽

  • @AK-fj8yo
    @AK-fj8yo Před rokem +93

    Been waiting for you to talk about this topic. Jamaicans and Puerto Ricans didn't create anything in hip hop. They copied whatever black Americans were doing.

    • @meltednostrilsbornwithoutn781
      @meltednostrilsbornwithoutn781 Před rokem +8

      By that logic, Black Americans copied other Black Americans within hip hop.

    • @realtalk6720
      @realtalk6720 Před rokem

      Suck you mada battybwoi Jamaicans ain't follow shit. We start hip hop and y'all copy our shit. Now y'all all dreadlocking y'all hair and wearing close fitted clothes. All Jamaican style. 👈 😂

    • @godzjewlz5245
      @godzjewlz5245 Před rokem +26

      @@meltednostrilsbornwithoutn781 so what

    • @718World
      @718World Před rokem +10

      GTFOH!!!! Jamaicans were the one's Americans got it from. Argue with ya mammy

    • @joshuagibson2541
      @joshuagibson2541 Před rokem +3

      Bronxdale... you forgot to mention Dj Tex- Dee

  • @AA-sh8pk
    @AA-sh8pk Před rokem +10

    Big ups to Disco king Mario.
    Ps we had sound systems we used them for block parties In the 60s in the south and philly

  • @sslyshalom333
    @sslyshalom333 Před rokem +17

    THANK U, MINNESOTA !!! I'm GLAD SOMEBODY from MY HOOD that I went to HIGH SCHOOL with & that is a HIPHOP LEGEND SPOKE THE TRUTH about THIS HIPHOP ORIGIN DEBATE !!! HIPHOP STARTED IN THE PROJECTS, NOT NO WEST BRONX !!! DOGGIE DIAMONDS, MUCH LOVE FOR THIS ONE !!!!

  • @nochill2906
    @nochill2906 Před rokem +26

    Thank you Minnesota because I'm from that era everything you stated is facts .

    • @BoricuaNyc
      @BoricuaNyc Před rokem +3

      Y’all never mentioned Tex🇵🇷who was DJaying with king Mario since day one. Y’all also didn’t mention Black Benjy being in the gang called “Ghetto Brothers” which was predominantly Boricuas🇵🇷🤔
      🗽🇵🇷🗽🇵🇷🗽🇵🇷🗽🇵🇷🗽

    • @mbp333
      @mbp333 Před rokem +2

      The true conversation has started for the most part,all of the elderstatesmen speak on it.

    • @mh7067
      @mh7067 Před rokem +3

      @@BoricuaNyc he did mention the Ghetto Brothers in regards to Black Benjy

    • @lindar6326
      @lindar6326 Před rokem

      @@BoricuaNyc BLACK AMERICANS ALL DAY EVERY DAY, YOU ARE JAMAICAN REFUGEES THAT ADAPTED TO BLACK AMERICANS MUSIC. YOU REGAE PEOPLE NEED TO SIT DOWN 🙄 SOME WHERE

    • @EVERLASTING12000
      @EVERLASTING12000 Před rokem

      @@BoricuaNyc Tex was half FBA.

  • @zsadiamonds2249
    @zsadiamonds2249 Před rokem +54

    Disco King Mario.. elder my cousin..we appreciate all the contributions of the Caribbean people but hip hop is ours

    • @mansamusa2012
      @mansamusa2012 Před rokem +2

      Mario your cousin? You should contact Tariq nasheed

    • @Kaya-Ile-Taino
      @Kaya-Ile-Taino Před rokem +1

      thats the thing, its not just "ours" , what does that even mean? By every metric Caribbean folk was there partying, a part of the music and dance culture. No one should fix their face to take hip hop from African Americans. african american culture is the dominant culture in NY at the time without question and the music is born from them. Hip Hop is Black American culture, but not just african american culture.

    • @Kaya-Ile-Taino
      @Kaya-Ile-Taino Před rokem +1

      @@mansamusa2012 thats the thing, its not just "ours" , what does that even mean? By every metric Caribbean folk was there partying, a part of the music. african american culture is the dominant culture in NY at the time without question. Hip Hop is Black American music

    • @lroyjetsonson5060
      @lroyjetsonson5060 Před rokem +7

      @Kaya Ile-Taino Riddle me this Batman. Would you be so quick to give Kung Fu to FBA'S just because we've been going to Dojo's since atleast the 40's and 50's?

    • @mansamusa2012
      @mansamusa2012 Před 11 měsíci +3

      Hip hop is rooted in funk music being played!!!! Black American deejays were playing funk music!!!! The black gangs were playing funk music and playing it a certain way !!!
      Black Americans created this shit no Hispanics at all!!!!!! or Caribbeans

  • @garthreid5088
    @garthreid5088 Před 22 hodinami +1

    If it was not Kool Herc who started Hip Hop, then who was it? Whatever Kool Herc did the idea and influence came from Jamaica.

  • @ctreid89
    @ctreid89 Před rokem +31

    Micheal Wayne tv breaks all this down like Minnesota said.

  • @EnergyBrooks
    @EnergyBrooks Před rokem +10

    You can give credit to someone without having to discredit someone else's contribution.

    • @7thstspeakez280
      @7thstspeakez280 Před rokem +13

      They only thing is Busta and Joey are trying claim our music as their own. We have to make sure there's a gate up

    • @woodike3300
      @woodike3300 Před rokem +7

      The conversation isn’t about who contributed,
      It’s about who created it.
      Contributions come afterwards

    • @EnergyBrooks
      @EnergyBrooks Před rokem +1

      @@woodike3300 Yes it's about the creators but they are the ones who brought up those names who are being wrongfully credited as creators. Just say, " these guy are not the creators however they contributed in pushing the culture forward". No disrespect and dismissive and division needed.

    • @kaykayjohnson9427
      @kaykayjohnson9427 Před rokem +2

      @@EnergyBrooks look up Know the REAL Fat Joe and Terror SQUAD BY CHARLIE ROCK LTD.

    • @arkeif
      @arkeif Před rokem

      ​@@woodike3300 You are correct. Some are trying to blur the line between create and after the fact excellent contribution

  • @alphamac108
    @alphamac108 Před rokem +7

    If Jamaicans had loud sound systems in Jamaica, where did they get their systems from!? 🤔

    • @ColtanFree
      @ColtanFree Před rokem

      The UK.....England made sound system too. Ya'll cats are silly.

    • @gordonmckenzie2920
      @gordonmckenzie2920 Před 9 měsíci

      Jamaicans were inspired by the juke joints of the 1940s, they got that exposure when they came to the US to do farm work. In 1950 an electronic expert by the name of Hedley Jones built custom made amplifiers for Jamaica's first major sound system called Tom The Great Sebastian. Custom amp building continued until the mid 70s. After that the sound system owners started buying equipment from the US and England.

    • @byaran1
      @byaran1 Před 9 měsíci

      They built them

    • @alphamac108
      @alphamac108 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@byaran1 Prove it!

  • @christophercarter7862
    @christophercarter7862 Před rokem +12

    Peter gunz was talking about it on his song back in the day about where hip hop started

  • @biggmarr5924
    @biggmarr5924 Před rokem +9

    Another Powerful build Doggie 🔴⚫️🟢🙌🏾💯

  • @livingstonadamson8957
    @livingstonadamson8957 Před rokem +10

    Hip-pop wasn't created by Jamaican but why when a Hip-pop artists with jamaican heritage does Hip-pop it goes so hard. Some how their contributions are very great!!!

    • @lroyjetsonson5060
      @lroyjetsonson5060 Před rokem +17

      Duly noted, but that is not the argument. The only reason things are getting out of control is because Caribbeans have been saying this for 30 years unchecked. Plus, when confronted about it like 5 years ago, they doubled down on it. So now we are going to get some STRAIGHTENING.

    • @msevekali
      @msevekali Před rokem +5

      I agree. Contributed but most definitely did not create.

  • @sixers0126
    @sixers0126 Před rokem +7

    He so right bout the Bronx late 70 early 80's being no fly zone as a shorty u couldn't ride your bike around the corner without getting robbed u had to stay on your block.

  • @mikenojones6861
    @mikenojones6861 Před rokem +23

    *Thank you doggie! Glad someone with a big platform is telling the TRUTH*

  • @jamesdog007
    @jamesdog007 Před rokem +2

    Salute ,salute gotta hear this build foreal ,been hearing alot on this topic

  • @MIERSSOCIETYTV
    @MIERSSOCIETYTV Před 11 měsíci +3

    I was told Grandmaster flowers is from Brooklyn, peace for the information 🔥🔥🔥

  • @jamalvines2133
    @jamalvines2133 Před rokem +7

    BLACK WAS HAVING BLOCK PARTIES WAY BEFORE HIP HOP.
    WITH SOUND SYSTEMS
    COMMON SENSE

  • @jermanemckay8945
    @jermanemckay8945 Před rokem +10

    Michael Wayne tv is the truth for real

  • @hardworkplayerzincPGE777
    @hardworkplayerzincPGE777 Před 15 dny +1

    We should be asking WHO CAME UP WITH THE TERM HIP HOP? JUBULAIRRS AND P Markham did not claim to be involved in Hip Hop. That term did not exist in 1920

  • @DeeDennis321
    @DeeDennis321 Před rokem +11

    Doggie , I'm a little Older than your guest here, born and raised in the South Bx and the Northeast Bronx in the late 1960s - 80s. Jamaicans didn't start or have any Sound System LOL smh. Jamaicans on the whole were ABOVE HipHop. Dude is doing Business with Busta - probably Why he Told that LIE. Where is the Sound Systems in Jamaica NOW??? lmao

    • @billyjacc
      @billyjacc Před rokem +2

      They were " Above " it? What's that mean?

    • @evertonroper5106
      @evertonroper5106 Před rokem +1

      @@billyjacc good question

    • @jamalvines2133
      @jamalvines2133 Před rokem

      BLACKS WAS HAVING BLOCK PARTIES WAY BEFORE HIP HOP WITH SOUND SYSTEMS COMMON SENSE

    • @DeeDennis321
      @DeeDennis321 Před rokem +3

      @@billyjacc it means I had Jamaican friends that when I went to their parents' homes the parents were Utterly Disgusted at Rap/HipHop. My Jamaican friends echoed their parent's sentiments at times = Above Rap/HipHop

    • @DJB635
      @DJB635 Před rokem +4

      True that!.......Jamaican dreds were playing reggae even in the 80s.

  • @bootneyleefarnsworth7307

    Hip-Hop isn't a genre of music...it's a 1970s Bronx subculture that died out in the early 80s. Rapping/Rap was a part of Black American society DECADES before the Hip-Hop movement existed.

    • @roylle6346
      @roylle6346 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Hip hop never died fool

    • @bootneyleefarnsworth7307
      @bootneyleefarnsworth7307 Před 11 měsíci

      @roylle6346 Yes it did, "fool".

    • @roylle6346
      @roylle6346 Před 11 měsíci

      @@bootneyleefarnsworth7307 yet still biggie said in his song titled: it was all a dream (or some other)that "they never believed hip hop would make it this far"😝 you the fool. Fool

    • @bootneyleefarnsworth7307
      @bootneyleefarnsworth7307 Před 11 měsíci

      @roylle6346 And you're an ignorant troll🧌 and you don't know what you're talking about.

  • @thechi2848
    @thechi2848 Před rokem +19

    Next they will try and claim they started Blues and jazz.

  • @infraReD_JETS
    @infraReD_JETS Před 6 měsíci +1

    DJ Charlie Chase was a founding memner of the Cold Crush Brothers back in 1981. He actually stepped onto the scene in 1975. Love this segway Doggie Diamonds!!! Stay FLY

  • @markogarcia7578
    @markogarcia7578 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Everyone converted to a new yorker that moved there to fit in leaving their own culture second....
    Thats the way many people see it .....
    You are what you speak and live and breath
    On the daily.

  • @waynecressbow5025
    @waynecressbow5025 Před rokem +7

    Big FACTS 💯 %

  • @sirdopaminesjournal3292
    @sirdopaminesjournal3292 Před rokem +3

    The way people fight about who started Hip Hop is kind of sad to me.
    The block parties that laid the seeds for Hip Hop to grow were planted there to get away from gangs and tribalism, for Ghetto Brothers, Black Spades, Savage Skulls, to put their arms down and come together, for Blacks, Whites and Puerto Ricans to intermix under the same roof, to turn these dilapidated buildings into canvases of art. But the tribalism didn't go away. It just took on a different form. Now instead of gangs fighting over turf in the 70's, we get Bronx vs Queens in the 80's. And it's the same tribalism, those same assertions of superiority that lead to East vs West in the 90's. Don't blame 2Pac. Don't blame Biggie. Blame the insecurity of the men who seek credit, not for what they did as individuals, but what they did as a group.

    • @rodgoode8624
      @rodgoode8624 Před 10 měsíci +2

      That’s keeping it Real! Thank you.

    • @Ehiphop7
      @Ehiphop7 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Truth

    • @ltod2
      @ltod2 Před měsícem

      You forgot Zulu Nation big part of hip hop

  • @kydwitdacopperarmz9693
    @kydwitdacopperarmz9693 Před rokem +2

    It is so funny how it is SOOO easily to rattle up and distract Diamonds while he in the middle of his points! Claiming so cool, calm and collected --> it is easy to raffle his feathers 🤷🏾🤷🏾🤷🏾😂🤣

  • @sirgodblackman8530
    @sirgodblackman8530 Před měsícem +2

    DJs were playing music from all cultures if they had a nice bridge

  • @stonestanza
    @stonestanza Před rokem +6

    Krs 1 South bronx
    The dreds in Brooklyn was crazy, you couldn't bring out your set with no hip hop , cuz the pistols would go

  • @k.pattbx
    @k.pattbx Před rokem +20

    Kool DJ Dee used to rock hard at 2000 Valentine & Echo Park. I witnessed greatness with my own eyes as a shorty. I used to try to peep the records & they used to distort them so people couldn’t cop them. I would still figure out what the records were many times.

    • @bigolbabyhuey
      @bigolbabyhuey Před rokem +3

      Is it true that Bambaataa used to borrow Kool Dj Dee equipment?

    • @k.pattbx
      @k.pattbx Před rokem +7

      @@bigolbabyhuey Not sure but I definitely remember Flash / Theodore & others using his set if I remember correctly. All the top groups would come through.

    • @bxdale83
      @bxdale83 Před rokem +4

      @@bigolbabyhuey Bambaataa used to borrow Disco King Mario's system before he got his own

    • @sls554
      @sls554 Před 11 měsíci +1

      K.PATTBX tell if you seen Kool DJ Dee playing the Breakbeats, the get down part, the jump off, and extending the Breakbeats, playing two records with the same Breakbeats play Funk music, Funk Breakbeats, Soul Breakbeat, Mixing, blending, dropping the needle on the record, Queing, backspinning, scratching, rapping/emceeing, and Breakdancing/B-boys. Was Kool DJ Dee playing James Brown, Apache, and the MeShame, and playing two turntables and a mixer. What years was Kool DJ Dee doing these DJ'S and DJ techniques such as 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973. The True Fathers of Hip Hop which are African Americans such as Grandmaster Flowers, DJ Smokey, DJ Pete Jones, King Disco Mario, DJ Pete Jones and Mixologist Tyrone. These So called Disco DJs were doing all of these DJS Skills and DJ Techniques from 1960s, 1970, 71, 72, 73, and even up to now. herc said he made Hip Hop in 1973 but these African Americans had all these DJ skill and Techniques in the 1960s before herc 1973. Some Hip Hop artist are saying that these so called Disco DJs were just playing Disco music and this is a shame.

    • @sls554
      @sls554 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@bxdale83 Our job is to find people in 1960s, 1970, 1971, 1972, and early in 1973 who were Hip Hop DJs who invented Hip Hop DJing skills and DJ techniques, and Hip Hop equipment. We have to pay to get into Google, Wikipedia, on television, radio, book, and teach the true history of Hip Hop. We have to pay, pay money.

  • @focuseddrew8737
    @focuseddrew8737 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I saw other videos with spades saying Herc was the first DJ to extend the break.

  • @hardworkplayerzincPGE777

    Still debating, Stop playing and just go watch Wild Style. Dates, people involved , you see it damn.

  • @MarkMorel74
    @MarkMorel74 Před rokem +8

    Grandmaster Flowers was from Brooklyn

    • @Bronxbred
      @Bronxbred Před rokem +3

      Everybody who was named Grandmaster in Hip Hop took that name from Grandmaster Flowers. Flash, Melle Mell, etc. Flowers was from Farragut Projects. My Uncles used to go to his parties and they said during the late 60's and early 70's he was the best DJ in NYC. Maybe the whole east coast.

  • @stonestanza
    @stonestanza Před rokem +5

    I thought cowboy came up with the phrase Hip Hop......Mario had the sound, t Rex puetro ricans learned from Mario, kool herc had his own distinctive sound ...

  • @williamdavis8855
    @williamdavis8855 Před 13 dny

    The first Jamaican DJs said themselves they brought back Amplifiers when they worked on Orange farms in Florida .. they listened to black music on Voice of America and later created their Ska style of music from Blues... They created their so-called sound systems from equipment bought in America but it was already Black DJs in America jamming

  • @mafdetthecat5463
    @mafdetthecat5463 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Herc said himself the Americans had the sound systems first lol

  • @brandonthomas5528
    @brandonthomas5528 Před rokem +4

    Jubalaires was rappin in the 40s look it up

  • @defrocker0569
    @defrocker0569 Před rokem +12

    Grandmaster Flowers was from Brooklyn and he played club music.

    • @joshuawisdom9694
      @joshuawisdom9694 Před rokem +5

      Rahiem from funky 4 said kool herc was the dj that started it because other djs like flowers and dj mario was playing disco

    • @defrocker0569
      @defrocker0569 Před rokem +3

      @@joshuawisdom9694 Now you see more confusion.

    • @culturedat
      @culturedat Před rokem +2

      That's real talk 💯

    • @defrocker0569
      @defrocker0569 Před rokem +5

      @@bigolbabyhuey According to Cholly Rock, one of the original Black Spades, Flowers got into HIP-HOP later.

    • @bigolbabyhuey
      @bigolbabyhuey Před rokem +3

      Grandmaster Flowers was known for 3 things; blending records. He got so good at it, at some point, he would blend 3 different records using 3 turntables. 2nd; he was known for breaking records and making them underground hits. Case in point, The Mexican by the band Babe Ruth. The Mexican became a big hit amongst b-boys. 3rd; Grandmaster Flowers was known for playing a lot of obscured records that no one else would play. Maybe what he played at the Manhattan nightclubs was different than what he played in the parks. In Brooklyn he played rock, psychedelic, funk, underground disco etc.

  • @sirgodblackman8530
    @sirgodblackman8530 Před měsícem +2

    PUERTO RICANS WERE OUTSIDE ALONG WITH THE BLACKS

  • @makiba9461
    @makiba9461 Před 6 dny

    African Americans are not messing with Busta Rhymes after saying we have no culture and trying to colonize our culture.
    Most of us don’t care about any music he is putting out.

  • @NSCTripleAgent
    @NSCTripleAgent Před rokem +4

    Vindication. Salute Minnesota!

  • @amarlittle1361
    @amarlittle1361 Před rokem +4

    How did The Bronx get the name "The Boogie -Down"?
    I started hearing around 1973 - 74.

    • @mrworkowt5419
      @mrworkowt5419 Před rokem +5

      Look up the Black Spades

    • @BoricuaNyc
      @BoricuaNyc Před rokem +1

      @@mrworkowt5419 Black spades had Boricuas🇵🇷in there gang

    • @mrworkowt5419
      @mrworkowt5419 Před rokem +2

      @@BoricuaNyc
      I get it and I'm not sure what that supposed to mean no disrespect.

    • @DJB635
      @DJB635 Před rokem +1

      It was the place to party.

  • @sirgodblackman8530
    @sirgodblackman8530 Před měsícem +1

    KOOL HERC STARTED THE MERRY-GO-ROUND

  • @johnpoe3122
    @johnpoe3122 Před rokem +2

    Doggie you was Definitely Right! Proving Busta Rhymes Wrong with that comment about America has no Culture.... The Truth cannot be Disputed.....

  • @lordlord7519
    @lordlord7519 Před rokem +17

    cancel Busta rhymes

  • @Factsoverfeelings4593
    @Factsoverfeelings4593 Před rokem +2

    Crazy because Q tip said his sister took him to the same park jam with Grandmaster flowers when he was 5

  • @ianquailey5344
    @ianquailey5344 Před rokem +2

    Black Americans created jazz,blues,and rock roll. These genres has made white peoples around the world rich. Why is it an issue that other black peoples

    • @ColtanFree
      @ColtanFree Před rokem

      What it is really showing is the deep seated psychological damage to the psyche of Black people and the lack of an Global View of the African World.

  • @horacegulleyjr3962
    @horacegulleyjr3962 Před rokem +14

    I'm learning more everytime I come to this channel.

    • @notforthefaintofheart5359
      @notforthefaintofheart5359 Před rokem +4

      The cypher originally started in the 1800's on the island of Santiago, which is located in the Cabo Verde Islands West Africa. The slaves would get in a circle and you would have the slaves that formed the circle would beat on there laps making a beat, and each slave would take turns jumping in the middle and they would express there feelings by singing, and the harsh situation s they lived in.The genre in Kriol language is called Batuku.

    • @realtalk6720
      @realtalk6720 Před rokem +1

      Yeah learning trash. Anyone can start a CZcams channel and create talking points fool. Smart people knows a lot of stuff these nowadays CZcams channel talk about ain't accurate. Just like this 🤡 channel talking bullshit. Jamaicans started hip hop. That's a no brainer to the foundation people. Y'all are new comers talking shit

    • @notforthefaintofheart5359
      @notforthefaintofheart5359 Před rokem

      @@jman1562001 That's what's up, do you have a link to that?

    • @EVERLASTING12000
      @EVERLASTING12000 Před rokem

      @@notforthefaintofheart5359 STOP THE BULLSHIT. That has NOTHING to do with hip-0hop. Making shit up. Funny thing is...the "cypoher" is FBA vernacular.

    • @EVERLASTING12000
      @EVERLASTING12000 Před rokem +1

      @@notforthefaintofheart5359
      Hip-hop is FBA period. Originated in the South. Tired of people like you all trying to bypass FBAs' rich history of survival, struggle, and innovation in the U.S., to credit a continent of > 3,000 tribes ; it's dishonest AF!
      You all do not do this with any other group's genres of music except with FBAs and we are sick of it.

  • @Snotboxrocked156
    @Snotboxrocked156 Před rokem +9

    The fact that ppl actually believe that they did is idiotic in its on right.

  • @hardworkplayerzincPGE777

    We should also be asking, What are the Elements of Hip Hop and where did each one come from?
    Some don't know. Thats the problem

  • @donaldmccall3968
    @donaldmccall3968 Před měsícem +2

    FDA created all type of genre negro spiritual, work songs, gospel, boogie woogie, play game song, blues, ragtime, call and response, work songs, scat, bebop , do woo, funk, r&b disco. That were hip hop got it influence from.

  • @formoverfeartv
    @formoverfeartv Před rokem +4

    thats our dancehall

  • @bootneyleefarnsworth7307

    Rap and Hip-Hop are both Black AmericanDOS creations, however they're two different things with different histories. Ninety nine percent of the time when people say Hip-Hop what they really mean is Rap, the "Hip-Hop" term needs to be fazed out when discussing music. Technically, Hip-Hop is a youth movement that was birthed in the Bronx and died there. The Hip-Hop term has been misused and thrown around loosely and inappropriately for decades, it's caused confusion and that's one of the reasons Rap doesn't have a proper standard history as a music genre. You don't associate the creation of Blues or Jazz with any type of separate youth or cultural movement so why would you do it with Rap?

  • @robluv4592
    @robluv4592 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Dominican Puerto Rican Cubans only NYC blacks created hip hop NYC culture blacks outside NYC had no clue on birth of hip hop.

  • @cazz1777
    @cazz1777 Před dnem

    I like this brother. The one thing he is wrong on is that Black Americans had big sound systems before Kool Herc or Jamaica

  • @tatomillz
    @tatomillz Před rokem +3

    You that nigga for real for real for this Doggie!!!!! I'm a 90's baby but *BEAT STREET* hands down like 6:30 my favorite movie easy. If You Know You Know! This is too official kid 🫡🙆🏾‍♂🤝👑💯🔥

    • @defrocker0569
      @defrocker0569 Před rokem +1

      @Maurice. You have to watch Wild Style and Style Wars. Kay Slay (Dezzy Dez) was in Style Wars. RIP

    • @tatomillz
      @tatomillz Před rokem

      @@defrocker0569 you the man!

  • @victorhampton3452
    @victorhampton3452 Před rokem +16

    Jamaicans used to dis hihop music

    • @culturedat
      @culturedat Před rokem +4

      True, I remember them saying "its a fad" in Brooklyn

    • @evertonroper5106
      @evertonroper5106 Před rokem

      @@culturedat not true

    • @culturedat
      @culturedat Před rokem +5

      @@evertonroper5106 so true, I was raised by a Rastafarian dad in Brooklyn who had many jamaican friends. Heard that first hand YOUTH

    • @evertonroper5106
      @evertonroper5106 Před rokem

      @@culturedat wow, I grew up between mount Vernon and the Bronx but also live in Brooklyn for about five years. On Prospect Place between Grand & Classon aves when Old dirty Bastard AKA ODB lived on Berkley street in Park Slope which was during the Dean Street Cafe days but no one in my circle ever dissed Hip Hop my cousin Dave Jam Hall produced many R&B artists he’s out of the Bad Boy Camp with Eddy Ferrell I say that to say this any Jamaican who diss Hip Hop is ignorant to his culture my response was merely based on my experience

    • @evertonroper5106
      @evertonroper5106 Před rokem

      @VictorHampton unfortunately many of us Jamaicans are ignorant to their own cultural art forms

  • @omarcamacho7
    @omarcamacho7 Před rokem +2

    Part 4 of Michael Wayne TV who is recounting the history, a Puertorican. Hahahahaha.

  • @ProducerSikste
    @ProducerSikste Před rokem +4

    okay now im confused, I thought the story was Cindy cool Hercs Sister got em to Dj her bday block party and used the turntables in a form the Art we call Hip Hop…So..I mean, if we dig back back back, there might have been another man from another area experimenting in the same ways like the Dj’s that cane out after Cool Herc and what not, as Hip Hop is a culture, it takes a village to raise a child, via, The Bronx.

    • @mbp333
      @mbp333 Před rokem +9

      Check out Michael Wayne TV,just regular folks remembering a time frame & one thing resonates..... Kool Herc & Bam would come over to soundview & check out what Mario was doing....

  • @atliens1996
    @atliens1996 Před rokem +3

    Sorry but Jamaicans didn't bring the sound system to America either We had sound systems and were having block parties before we knew what a Jamaicans was

    • @ColtanFree
      @ColtanFree Před rokem +1

      I guess all those folks from the south who joined Marcus Garveys UNIA Movement didn't know what a Jamaican was also,,,,

    • @atliens1996
      @atliens1996 Před rokem +2

      @ColtanFree Did Marcus Garvey bring the sound system to America? If not what your talking about is irrelevant

    • @ColtanFree
      @ColtanFree Před rokem +2

      ​@@atliens1996 You didn't say Jamaican Sound System . You said :"a Jamican" as it relates to a people. You are the one that is irelevant. Yoa'll cats don;t really understand what Sound System Culture is...that is the problem. People playing records through a system existed all across the world but it deidn;t developed into a "culture" or industry as it happened in Jamaica. That's the point.

    • @atliens1996
      @atliens1996 Před rokem +1

      @ColtanFree like I said black people from the south didn't know anything about no Jamaica or Jamaicans back then and didn't know Jamaicans bring sound system or sound system culture to America and influence nothing the influence came from black American music and went to Jamaica Even the four fathers of Jamaican music acknowledged that y'all
      just making up stuff

    • @ColtanFree
      @ColtanFree Před rokem +2

      @@atliens1996 Once again.....Ya'll cats dont understand what soundsystem culture is. Can you give me the name of one famous Soundsystem in Black America? Name one please....No one is denying the influence of Black American music but you just don;t understand what is meant by soundsystem culture. That is the problem.

  • @mayalunics4740
    @mayalunics4740 Před měsícem +1

    Hip Hop as we know it today was created by Black Americans in the Bronx. Yes some components of Hip Hop existed before, but everything was put together in the Bronx. Black American Caribbeans played a big part in Hip Hop after it's creation. A few Puerto Ricans jumped on early but moreso in the late 70s early 80s. Grand Master Flowers and DJ Hollywood were established DJs but they weren't what we considered Hip Hop in the beginning.

  • @dasettcambridge
    @dasettcambridge Před 13 dny

    Good looking for the info.

  • @moneynills...watchmyevolut3560

    I'm puerto Rican and I love all genres of music but rap music hip-hop is by far my favorite so much that I'm willing to challenge anyone to a friendly battle weather bar for bar or song for song

  • @shawnstephens12
    @shawnstephens12 Před rokem +3

    Salute Salute 🫡🫡🫡

  • @williamdavis8855
    @williamdavis8855 Před 13 dny

    People forget about DJ Kool Dee doing it before Flash, Herc and Bambi

  • @sportcoatjoditv7148
    @sportcoatjoditv7148 Před měsícem

    U don't get dirty breakdancin'. We danced on cardboard that refrigerators came in and linoleum !!!!

  • @cheviningram8865
    @cheviningram8865 Před rokem +7

    Down south been having block parties wayyy before some damn Jamaicans no disrespect

    • @larrinj.2905
      @larrinj.2905 Před rokem +6

      Yesss!! I been saying this. My grandparents were having block parties in the 1940s lol. That wasn’t a new thing for us in America.

  • @trullah7773
    @trullah7773 Před rokem +4

    Bob Marley was imitating Smokey Robinson and the Miricles before there was any reggie music so stop it. Reggie is good music but it gets its foundation from old school black American music. That's facts. You guys are always saying something yall do is better. If that's the case, why did you flee your country?

    • @evertonroper5106
      @evertonroper5106 Před rokem +2

      Bob Marley imitated no one Btw how old are you because you’re clueless Iam 62 years old and am gonna say this you’re talking out your ass from your mommas basement

    • @imnotasimp7440
      @imnotasimp7440 Před rokem +1

      Lol. Why did you have to mention us fleeing our country. That was a low blow. Anyway, Black Americans influenced the world and paved the way for all Black people around the world. However, you must admit, that for a VERY small and poor country, Jamaica has been very influential musically. Jamaicans did not create Hip Hop music, but Jamaican descendants were at least, a very small part of its foundation.

    • @evertonroper5106
      @evertonroper5106 Před rokem +1

      @@imnotasimp7440 you’re truly a simp idiot bwoy go do some researh and remember this America don’t have a history beside you were not even born yet because you wouldn’t be talking out your ass

  • @MrGomes075
    @MrGomes075 Před rokem +2

    I think the first time I heard of Minnesota was on a Mos Def song Grow man business.

  • @mr.culturefreedom2073
    @mr.culturefreedom2073 Před 27 dny

    Jamaicans did not have the sound systems before black americans when the sound system DJs said they were getting them from the US and copying Black Americans.

  • @Rio-uv1gs
    @Rio-uv1gs Před rokem +16

    King Charles was originally from Jamaica and moved to East Elmhurst. He was noted for developing innovations to New York sound systems with knowledge from sound systems from the Caribbean, such as using a certain type of amplifier to create a heavy bass, like in reggae. People in the documentary noted they knew that King Charles was foreign, but they had little idea that his heritage influenced his music so much, so when he played music most Americans did not recognize his sounds as ‘Caribbean,’ just unique. This is an example of how Caribbean style contributions can sometimes go unrecognized, because the audience of the music, as spreaders of knowledge, did not know themselves.

    • @bryantwware1925
      @bryantwware1925 Před rokem +13

      The truth of the matter is. M.Ali the boxer was rapping in the early 60s and 70s how about that.

    • @GRINDETHIKSMIXTAPESHOW
      @GRINDETHIKSMIXTAPESHOW Před rokem +2

      I heard about King Charles they tak about him on a documentry called the founding fathers

    • @RealDealy
      @RealDealy Před rokem +13

      That was one DJ in Queens. You turned that into he gave NYC DJ’s the idea to use bass? Do you know music in the late 1960’s, early 1970’s were more dynamic in sound unlike today, so they didn’t want just bass heavy music
      This is why Kool Herc said him sound system was emulating AMERICAN sound systems NOT Jamaican cause Americans systems were more clean sounding
      Reggae doesn’t have a lot of others mids, and highs, cause the baseline is more pronounced. With vinyl you have to prioritize certain sounds in music cause vinyl can’t hold too much information unlike digital today which is why music today is louder, and more bass heavy. Cassette Tapes were the start of it with “too short” being one of the first to add tons of bass to his music in the late 1980’s
      Im a producer so I know this stuff which is why I know when people are lying about what they did in the past
      Did you forget that he was in NYC, the HOME of the modern DJ. AND SOUND SYSTEMS?
      Then you say it was “Caribbean” when it was JAMAICAN dj culture that influenced him, not Caribbean’s in general. Whenever I see someone say Caribbean instead of Jamaican l, I already know the lies or half truths are next
      And, they DID know he was foreign they didn’t know where he was from. The people in the documentary assumed sound systems were big in Jamaica cause that’s what we all were told but now we know it’s the other way around which makes sense being that AMERICA is a rich country, we always had access to the best music equipment in the world, especially if you lived in NYC!

    • @crooklynyanoe
      @crooklynyanoe Před rokem

      They never mentioned. NONE OF WHAT TOU ADDED IN THAT DOCUMENTARY …that even showed King Charles. Stop LYIN

    • @crooklynyanoe
      @crooklynyanoe Před rokem

      @@Rio-uv1gs I don’t need a documentary to tell me what I SAW WITH MY OWNN EYES IM FROM BROOKLYN THEE EAST❗️❗️❗️❗️ He DIDNT teach NO DJ ANYTHING nobody wanted to hear what he was playing and that’s why he was not NO BIG DJ IN QUEENS …..he played reggae when reggae was NOT POPULAR IN NY he was. Just around wasn’t no INNOVATOR OF ANYTHING black Americans had SOUN SYSTEMS WAYYY MORE BIGGER AND POWERFUL AND MORE POPULAR THEN HIM STRAIGHT FACTS

  • @silentambitionbronxgold2410

    James Whipper II, more
    famously known as Prince Whipper Whip, became the
    first Puerto Rican/Latino rapper when he joined the
    Mighty Force Crew in the late 1970s as their MC while
    fellow Peurto Rican, DJ Disco Wiz was the first Puerto Rican
    DJ... Hip Hop was created in 1973 bv the way....

    • @EVERLASTING12000
      @EVERLASTING12000 Před rokem +1

      Prince Whipper Whip was half FBA. His father is FBA.

  • @killamixup
    @killamixup Před 24 dny +1

    The reason why a lot say Jamaica because the original to rappers delight came from general echo 1974. And not to mention studio one rockers music for the rest of the chapters Pryor to that. People way before cool herc. Not to mention sound system culture with massive speakers since the late 40s. Listen to the r&b features with gangsta mc’s

  • @silentambitionbronxgold2410

    Anybody could put together words and rhyme them champ. Some people talking apples and orange in the comments… No one is attempting to take anything from Blacks especially Puerto Rican’s, but all that trying to Black wash shit is a whole dub… Puerto Rican’s played a major part and that’s not an opinion…. Let’s stay focused no special Ed shit…. We are talking about Hip Hop you know that thing that was created in The Bronx with 2 turntables and a mic. 4 elements of Hip Hop: Deejaying, MCing, Graffiti, and B-boying aka Bronx-boying…. You odeeing with all that extra shit and I get homie and I understand why you feel that way, but this ain’t that…. No opinions only facts 💯🦾

    • @Militantreturns
      @Militantreturns Před rokem +5

      Then. How PuertoRicans did make up hip-hop if thats the case.

    • @jamalvines2133
      @jamalvines2133 Před rokem

      CLOWN WITHOUT BLACKS THERE'S NO HOP HOP
      WITHOUT PUERTO RICANS THERE'S STILL HIP HOP. stop I see you may have a mental problem. OR JUST HATE. SAD

    • @FirstLast-gc5bt
      @FirstLast-gc5bt Před rokem +7

      NAme one thing that Ricans were doing that FBAS weren’t doing first…and provide proof

    • @lindar6326
      @lindar6326 Před rokem +1

      IT IS TRUE , EVERYONE KNOWS THAT PUERTO 🇵🇷 RICANS DESERVE PROPS FOR PARTICIPATING IN THE ADVANCEMENT OF HIP HOP, THATS FOR SURE, YALL WAS BREAKING AND BUSTEN MAD MOVES ON THAT CARDBOARD WITH EVERYONE ELSE. MAD MAD PROPS. THE ISSUE IS THE EARLIEST ORIGIN OF HIP HOP.

    • @RemoteAdminJayJay2
      @RemoteAdminJayJay2 Před rokem

      name a Rican dancer before the Zulu Kings

  • @stairway-steeltalkironresp7595

    I got an exclusive interview with KooL Herc, saying otherwise. We are too often reluctant to give our people, their appropriate appraisal.
    *Steel Talk*

  • @CROX1153
    @CROX1153 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I don't have NO love for Fat Joe and Buster Rhymes saying they created Hip Hop and they know damn well they didn't so l have no respect for nucca.