For someone who isn't a "teacher or a coach", you probably gave the best explanation of these topics that I have ever heard. Thank you for that and keep it up. Typically the best teachers are the ones who try their best to think like a student before they start explaining.
I shoot a lot of birds in flight and was struggling with some of my video footage. In particular shooting at a high frame rate, then editing it in a slower frame rate. You have clarified some technical issues for me. Ty vm for your videos. Very helpful. Cheers!
This deserves so many more likes/views! As someone coming from sports photography, I’m still a complete beginner for videography - but want to be able to do slo mo for technique analysis. I had no clue about PAL/NTSC, so super handy you covering that too. Thanks for breaking it all down in such an easy to understand way!
It's really very very helpful 😊 And your last tip is the final conclusion of ur whole video which a beginner person can easily understand Thanks for giving all this information 😊👍👏👏👏
That’s true, smartphones can do various frame rates now. But they usually do NTSC only and you need to buy an app if you want to control things like shutter speed. Still, they are much better than we give them credit for as long as you don’t zoom or move too much.
great channel. loved all your quick tips and explanations. this clip shows you're also a great technical teacher. can agree, you deserve way more subs. keep up the work! P.S: always have to chuckle when you say "BEginning"
hey man, i have no idea if you will ever see this, but ive been watching your videos for about two weeks in a row and man, im a big fan haha anyways, im in nz and i know i have to use pal. im just wondering what would happen if i drop 50fps videos using a 25fps timeline and i only slow down the parts that i want at 50% speed, and what i dont want slow down i just keep it at 50fps. my maths calculations are these: AMERICA: 60fps in a 24fps timeline, to keep videos at a normal speed: 24/60=0.4 (this is for slowmo 40%) 0.4x2=0.8 (80%)... what im tryna say is to keep smooth footage on a 24fps timeline (faster to edit and export) i slow down the normal videos at 80% speed and slowmos at 40% HERE IS WHAT IM THINKING, NZ: 50fps in a 25fps timeline. To get sick slowmo effect: 25/50=0.5 (50% speed) and to keep the normal videos at a normal speed: 0.5x2=1 (100% speed) does this mean that 50fps footage will always look good on a 25fps timeline, mixing normal and slowmo videos together? man it would mean the world if you can answer my question, thanks!!!!! ps, how much does the shutter speed rule affect this? im usually shooting outdoors (forests) and i shouldnt really worry about lights. i always try to keep my videos as sharp as possible so i might start using the overcranking technique. let me know what you think!1 chuuuuuuuuuuuur
Awesome video, first off, can you make a video about Shutter Speed please? I really want to implement multiple shutter speeds/angles while understanding When and How to use them on a shoot. Also, can you please explain what Specific types of shots and scenarios higher and lower Frame Rates should be used during a shoot? I like using higher frame rates, but I would like to know when and how I should use 24fps, 30fps, 60fps and so on for specific things. Thank you for the video!
If you're editing in a 30 fps timeline and have only a part of a 60 fps clip you want to slow down, how will the rest of that clip look when played in real time? Will the remaining 60 fps clip that wasn't slowed down look choppy in the 30 fps timeline?
Not at all. What you describe is called speed ramping and it is very common in sport videos. Come to think of it, I should probably do a tutorial about it...
@@BeyondTheGame_E hey any chance I could chat with you about a Bball gig I’m doin in two weeks here in NZ. It’s my first ever big gig and I’m pretty nervous but I’m up for the challenge!
AWESOME video! Thanks for the knowledge. I'm new to sports videography and your tutorials are gold. So if I'm shooting at 60 or 120 FPS while editing in 30 FPS sequence. Do I slow down my footage my 50%? What if I want the my footage to be even slower? Do I lower that amount?
If you shoot at 60fps, the slower you can go is 50% but at 120fps you can go as slow as 25%. And if you edit in a 24fps sequence, then you can replace those figures by 40% and 20%. Basically, divide the footage frame rate by the sequence frame rate and you’ll know by how many times you can slow it down.
I'm gonna start shooting video for a boxer friend, i shoot 120 all day and over crank just to be safe, so far so good, but if i wanna shoot 24FPS what shutter would you possibly recommend to start at.
No these won’t do anything for the flickering and won’t look much different than 24, 30 or 60. Also I’m not familiar with Fujifilm but I would be highly surprised that your camera can’t do PAL if it is a proper mirrorless or DSLR camera. Just to be clear, it won’t be in the shooting modes menu. It will be somewhere in the setup menu where you can also change the date, time, location and other things like that.
Great video. Really helpful. On the flickering lights. I’m in NZ and did an indoor shot a few months back and noticed the flicker when I got back. Is that because I used 60 FPS and should have gone with 50? I could get rid of most of it in post with the off setting by a frame trick but didn’t look the best.
Yes NZ is a PAL country so you should switch to shooting in 50fps and editing in 25fps sequences. But even in PAL, a high shutter speed will also make the flickering more visible so keep that in mind too.
How did you start your career doing this? Is this your full time job. I’m new to this and I think it would be awesome to do this. I’m a junior in high school and I just don’t know where to start. Like did u do video and photography in college or what. Great video
Hey man, thanks for the love and yes this is my full time job. More than that, it's my whole career. I grew up in Canada so the school system is a little different but, long story short, I didn't go to college. I did go to a school where I spent 2 years learning electronics and one year learning video and audio production. From there I started at the bottom of the TV industry as a driver/courier and gradually moved up to eventually become a video editor. Eventually I got a job as a video editor for the Montreal Canadiens (NHL) and after that I kept working in the sports industry for various clients. There's many ways to get to the same result but that was mine.
Hey E, I appreciate all the vids. Thank you very helpful.I do have 2 questions. In this video you stated that if your filming in 60fps your OUTCOME project should be double that. IS this always the case or is this only for slo mo videos produced? When I am ready to produce any video my options are. 1920 x 1080/120p (60mbps) 1920x1080p/ 60p (40mbps) 1920x1080/p 30p (16 mbps) 1920x1080/p 24p ( 16mbps). When I produce any video filmed in 60 fps. I use 1920x1080/60p(40 mbs) Should i be producing at 120p ? When I edit in slo mo in my program, I slow the video down to half of what the frame rate I filmed at. At the most. Am i doing this corretly?
Thanks for your support! Regarding your question, it’s the other way around. When filming in 60fps you should edit and export in a 30fps sequence. That way you can slow your footage down by 50% without losing any quality.
@@BeyondTheGame_E Thank You!! I just tried it out looks a lot better. I am using a camcorder HCX2000. I def cant go any lower than 50%. I film Games But getting into a lot of slow mo...and like you said Now i understand why a DSLR is for editing like this . Thanks
Hi, I have a question (a beginner's one, I guess). If I shoot in 60 fps to lower to 30 fps for slo mo, when I edit and slow mo a section of the sequence, the first section will be at 60 fps and it won't have a more cinematic look (too much fps). But when I see your footage I see something similar in the first section as 24 or 25 fps and then shifts to slow mo. So I'm lost... any help? thanks.
All your clips in a sequence will look the same because the sequence itself has one frame rate. The different look is between a 30fps and a 60fps sequence (not clip).
You said you film everything at 120 if you can but when I put my 120 on a 24 timeline it’s choppy. And I don’t want to slow the entire clip down only a small portion of it
Did you actually export the clip or does it look choppy in your editing software? Most editing software downgrade the quality and skip frames to be able to play high frame rate footage. Your export won’t look like that though.
@@BeyondTheGame_E I know this is a late response but I was wanting to clarify. I thought the video said to use a 30 timeline for 120 did I misunderstand that?
@@nathanbanks9744 No, that's right. I always film sports in 120fps and edit in 24. My previous point was that just because it looks choppy in your editing software, it doesn't mean that your exported video will look choppy as well. Your editing software is probably lowering the playback quality to run everything smoothly.
I have to record basketball game tomorrow and I’m confused should I use 60fps or 120fps. 120 fps shutter speed 1/400. Im using Sony a7iii. If I use 60 fps what shutter speed should i used and can I still use sequence 24 fps to edit the footage
You can use 60 or 120. 120 will allow you to slow down you footage twice as much as 60 but with a faster shutter speed it will also make your image darker. Your shutter speed should always be twice your frame rate or a little faster. So at 60fps you should go for 1/120 or faster. And yes you need to use a 24 or 30fps sequence if you want to slow down your footage in post.
If my canon shoots 1080 at 30fps but no higher and i want to film slowmo does that mean i will need to set it to 720 60fps? cause i feel like 720 is just so much lower quality
In theory the short answer is yes. But it sort of depends on how your video is going to be watched and how much slowmo you intend to do. If your video is going to be watched mainly on phones, then yes go for 720 because your slowmo will be sharp and the quality drop wont be that noticeable on phones. But if your videos are watched on big TV's and you don't have that many slowmo shots in them, it might be worth sticking to 1080p even if your slowmo shots look a bit shit, it's still better than having the entire video dropping in quality.
If I’m filming an interview I’ll do it in 25fps. But if I’m filming a game or any kind of event I’ll stick to 50fps otherwise it’s too easy to make mistakes when you go back and forth on the fly.
If you're willing to pay a subscription, Premiere Pro is the way to go. Otherwise I believe that on Mac you can get Final Cut for a flat fee. Or you could simply get Davinci Resolve for free.
@@attasuperboys At that price you've got the latest GoPro models. Otherwise I think Sony makes a couple of 'point and shoot' models but obviously those come with some limitations.
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For someone who isn't a "teacher or a coach", you probably gave the best explanation of these topics that I have ever heard. Thank you for that and keep it up. Typically the best teachers are the ones who try their best to think like a student before they start explaining.
Thanks Matt, that means a lot. 😊
I shoot a lot of birds in flight and was struggling with some of my video footage. In particular shooting at a high frame rate, then editing it in a slower frame rate. You have clarified some technical issues for me. Ty vm for your videos. Very helpful. Cheers!
Thank you for that great feedback 😊
This deserves so many more likes/views!
As someone coming from sports photography, I’m still a complete beginner for videography - but want to be able to do slo mo for technique analysis.
I had no clue about PAL/NTSC, so super handy you covering that too.
Thanks for breaking it all down in such an easy to understand way!
Thank you Cath, this is the type of comment that warms my heart! 😊
It's really very very helpful 😊
And your last tip is the final conclusion of ur whole video which a beginner person can easily understand
Thanks for giving all this information 😊👍👏👏👏
My pleasure 😊
Great content! I'm just starting out in the sports videography and live streaming and your channel is a master class by it self!
PS Loved your brand
Thank you! You should join our sports videography community on Facebook if you haven't already.
not bad...i actually understood something....and i can bring it into my workflow....nicely done...thanks...
Glad I could help!
Great tutorial! Subscribed!!
Thank you 😊
I think you are a great teacher, E! Nice work again. Well explained and I learned a lot here for my pickleball videos :) Thanks!
This is 💯 % true 👍🏻 best explanation video on CZcams for slomo filming 👌 best cinematic greetings from a still small german CZcams filmmaker 😂
Thanks 😊
Another awesome video. Binge watching this channel 😂
Thanks for your support 👊🏽
great video, my older DSLR can only do 24/25fps at 1080. A lot of the newer camera phones can do pretty good frame rates at 1080.
That’s true, smartphones can do various frame rates now. But they usually do NTSC only and you need to buy an app if you want to control things like shutter speed. Still, they are much better than we give them credit for as long as you don’t zoom or move too much.
Good info but how do i set my timeline to 30fps i record in 60 & 120 fps but dont know how to set the timeline to 30 fps 👌
Which editing platform are you using?
Thanks mate this helped alot... infact all ur videos have helped me alot. Legend
So pleased with your content! Cheers
Makes so much sense now, thanks.
You’re welcome.
Really helpful and perfectly explained. Thank you!
very calm, very precise tutorial. Love it!
Thank you 😊
great channel. loved all your quick tips and explanations. this clip shows you're also a great technical teacher. can agree, you deserve way more subs. keep up the work! P.S: always have to chuckle when you say "BEginning"
😂 glad I can help and make you laugh at the same time!
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Perfectly explained. 👏
Thank you Myco!
OMG this is so helpful!! Thank You
Glad it was helpful!
wow that's insane!!! never knew electricity had anything to do with fps...
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hey man, i have no idea if you will ever see this, but ive been watching your videos for about two weeks in a row and man, im a big fan haha
anyways, im in nz and i know i have to use pal.
im just wondering what would happen if i drop 50fps videos using a 25fps timeline and i only slow down the parts that i want at 50% speed, and what i dont want slow down i just keep it at 50fps.
my maths calculations are these:
AMERICA:
60fps in a 24fps timeline,
to keep videos at a normal speed: 24/60=0.4 (this is for slowmo 40%) 0.4x2=0.8 (80%)... what im tryna say is to keep smooth footage on a 24fps timeline (faster to edit and export) i slow down the normal videos at 80% speed and slowmos at 40%
HERE IS WHAT IM THINKING, NZ:
50fps in a 25fps timeline.
To get sick slowmo effect: 25/50=0.5 (50% speed) and to keep the normal videos at a normal speed: 0.5x2=1 (100% speed)
does this mean that 50fps footage will always look good on a 25fps timeline, mixing normal and slowmo videos together?
man it would mean the world if you can answer my question, thanks!!!!!
ps, how much does the shutter speed rule affect this? im usually shooting outdoors (forests) and i shouldnt really worry about lights. i always try to keep my videos as sharp as possible so i might start using the overcranking technique. let me know what you think!1
chuuuuuuuuuuuur
Great explanation, many thanks...!
No worries, always happy to help!
the best video. ever.
Great video once again 👍
Thanks again!
Awesome video, first off, can you make a video about Shutter Speed please? I really want to implement multiple shutter speeds/angles while understanding When and How to use them on a shoot. Also, can you please explain what Specific types of shots and scenarios higher and lower Frame Rates should be used during a shoot? I like using higher frame rates, but I would like to know when and how I should use 24fps, 30fps, 60fps and so on for specific things. Thank you for the video!
Sounds good! I'm already working a a couple videos that might help with all that.
@@BeyondTheGame_E thank yoy!
you!*
If you're editing in a 30 fps timeline and have only a part of a 60 fps clip you want to slow down, how will the rest of that clip look when played in real time? Will the remaining 60 fps clip that wasn't slowed down look choppy in the 30 fps timeline?
Not at all. What you describe is called speed ramping and it is very common in sport videos. Come to think of it, I should probably do a tutorial about it...
@@BeyondTheGame_E thanks for replying! A tutorial like that would be greatly appreciated!
Awesome video. I’m in NZ and I do a lot of live-streaming sport 🏀 I have all my settings on NTSC and not PAL.
You got to switch to PAL. If you’re filming indoors, you’ll see a difference straightaway.
@@BeyondTheGame_E hey any chance I could chat with you about a Bball gig I’m doin in two weeks here in NZ. It’s my first ever big gig and I’m pretty nervous but I’m up for the challenge!
Yeah sure, what do you need to know?
Is it best to chat here or send you an email?
Either or. My email is on the about page.
You deserve way more subs!!
Thanks Alexia, really appreciated.
@@BeyondTheGame_E I'll be filming my first sports video production and your videos definitely put my mind at ease! I may have a couple questions soon😂
Shoot me your questions when you’re ready and I’ll do my best!
AWESOME video! Thanks for the knowledge. I'm new to sports videography and your tutorials are gold. So if I'm shooting at 60 or 120 FPS while editing in 30 FPS sequence. Do I slow down my footage my 50%? What if I want the my footage to be even slower? Do I lower that amount?
If you shoot at 60fps, the slower you can go is 50% but at 120fps you can go as slow as 25%. And if you edit in a 24fps sequence, then you can replace those figures by 40% and 20%. Basically, divide the footage frame rate by the sequence frame rate and you’ll know by how many times you can slow it down.
I'm gonna start shooting video for a boxer friend, i shoot 120 all day and over crank just to be safe, so far so good, but if i wanna shoot 24FPS what shutter would you possibly recommend to start at.
1/50 unless your camera can do 1/48.
Good video E.
Thanks 😊
my Fujifilm camera also has the options for 23.98 p, 29.97 p, 59.94 p. No mention about PAL. Can these be used for avoiding the flickering?
No these won’t do anything for the flickering and won’t look much different than 24, 30 or 60. Also I’m not familiar with Fujifilm but I would be highly surprised that your camera can’t do PAL if it is a proper mirrorless or DSLR camera. Just to be clear, it won’t be in the shooting modes menu. It will be somewhere in the setup menu where you can also change the date, time, location and other things like that.
Great video. Really helpful. On the flickering lights. I’m in NZ and did an indoor shot a few months back and noticed the flicker when I got back. Is that because I used 60 FPS and should have gone with 50? I could get rid of most of it in post with the off setting by a frame trick but didn’t look the best.
Yes NZ is a PAL country so you should switch to shooting in 50fps and editing in 25fps sequences. But even in PAL, a high shutter speed will also make the flickering more visible so keep that in mind too.
How did you start your career doing this? Is this your full time job. I’m new to this and I think it would be awesome to do this. I’m a junior in high school and I just don’t know where to start. Like did u do video and photography in college or what. Great video
Hey man, thanks for the love and yes this is my full time job. More than that, it's my whole career. I grew up in Canada so the school system is a little different but, long story short, I didn't go to college. I did go to a school where I spent 2 years learning electronics and one year learning video and audio production. From there I started at the bottom of the TV industry as a driver/courier and gradually moved up to eventually become a video editor. Eventually I got a job as a video editor for the Montreal Canadiens (NHL) and after that I kept working in the sports industry for various clients. There's many ways to get to the same result but that was mine.
can we see the frames per second on youtube?
When you look at the settings, if it doesn’t mention the frame rate, it means that it’s in 24, 25 or 30fps. But if it’s in 50/60fps, it will say it.
Now I know 😊
So in this case will speed ramping help?
Help what exactly?
Hey E,
I appreciate all the vids. Thank you very helpful.I do have 2 questions. In this video you stated that if your filming in 60fps your OUTCOME project should be double that. IS this always the case or is this only for slo mo videos produced?
When I am ready to produce any video my options are.
1920 x 1080/120p (60mbps)
1920x1080p/ 60p (40mbps)
1920x1080/p 30p (16 mbps)
1920x1080/p 24p ( 16mbps).
When I produce any video filmed in 60 fps. I use 1920x1080/60p(40 mbs)
Should i be producing at 120p ?
When I edit in slo mo in my program, I slow the video down to half of what the frame rate I filmed at. At the most. Am i doing this corretly?
Thanks for your support! Regarding your question, it’s the other way around. When filming in 60fps you should edit and export in a 30fps sequence. That way you can slow your footage down by 50% without losing any quality.
@@BeyondTheGame_E Thank You!! I just tried it out looks a lot better. I am using a camcorder HCX2000. I def cant go any lower than 50%. I film Games But getting into a lot of slow mo...and like you said Now i understand why a DSLR is for editing like this . Thanks
Hi, I have a question (a beginner's one, I guess). If I shoot in 60 fps to lower to 30 fps for slo mo, when I edit and slow mo a section of the sequence, the first section will be at 60 fps and it won't have a more cinematic look (too much fps). But when I see your footage I see something similar in the first section as 24 or 25 fps and then shifts to slow mo. So I'm lost... any help? thanks.
All your clips in a sequence will look the same because the sequence itself has one frame rate. The different look is between a 30fps and a 60fps sequence (not clip).
@@BeyondTheGame_E thanks for the quick reply. I have seen right now your "speed ramping" video which has clarified things.
You said you film everything at 120 if you can but when I put my 120 on a 24 timeline it’s choppy. And I don’t want to slow the entire clip down only a small portion of it
Did you actually export the clip or does it look choppy in your editing software? Most editing software downgrade the quality and skip frames to be able to play high frame rate footage. Your export won’t look like that though.
@@BeyondTheGame_E I know this is a late response but I was wanting to clarify. I thought the video said to use a 30 timeline for 120 did I misunderstand that?
@@nathanbanks9744 No, that's right. I always film sports in 120fps and edit in 24. My previous point was that just because it looks choppy in your editing software, it doesn't mean that your exported video will look choppy as well. Your editing software is probably lowering the playback quality to run everything smoothly.
I have to record basketball game tomorrow and I’m confused should I use 60fps or 120fps. 120 fps shutter speed 1/400. Im using Sony a7iii. If I use 60 fps what shutter speed should i used and can I still use sequence 24 fps to edit the footage
You can use 60 or 120. 120 will allow you to slow down you footage twice as much as 60 but with a faster shutter speed it will also make your image darker. Your shutter speed should always be twice your frame rate or a little faster. So at 60fps you should go for 1/120 or faster. And yes you need to use a 24 or 30fps sequence if you want to slow down your footage in post.
What shuttle speed should I use for 120fps
@@kbfilm551 At least 1/250
Hey pal, i am stuck with sony a7iii should i go for 4K 30p or 1080 120 ?
If your intention is to do slow motion and speed ramping in post, you should film in 1080p 120fps.
@@BeyondTheGame_E 🙏🏻 Thank you man, really appreciate your answer
Can you film outside with no artificial light on NTSC, if your in a country that uses PAL?
Yes, outside with sunlight is fine either way.
If my canon shoots 1080 at 30fps but no higher and i want to film slowmo does that mean i will need to set it to 720 60fps? cause i feel like 720 is just so much lower quality
In theory the short answer is yes. But it sort of depends on how your video is going to be watched and how much slowmo you intend to do. If your video is going to be watched mainly on phones, then yes go for 720 because your slowmo will be sharp and the quality drop wont be that noticeable on phones. But if your videos are watched on big TV's and you don't have that many slowmo shots in them, it might be worth sticking to 1080p even if your slowmo shots look a bit shit, it's still better than having the entire video dropping in quality.
Question: In order to make an edit in 25 FPS with mixed normal speed and slow mo, how should I record the action? All takes in 100 ?
Yes I would shoot all the action in 100fps. But if you are shooting interviews, I would shoot those in 25fps.
@@BeyondTheGame_E Thanks!! I usually shoot "Windsurfing action" with GoPro!! Thanks for the video and for your quick reply!!
That sounds exciting!
Do you film both 25fps and 50fps or just in 50fps for everything even if it won't be in slowmotion in the final edit ?
If I’m filming an interview I’ll do it in 25fps. But if I’m filming a game or any kind of event I’ll stick to 50fps otherwise it’s too easy to make mistakes when you go back and forth on the fly.
What program do you suggest editing in and do you the the eos 90d would be a good camera for american football?
If you're willing to pay a subscription, Premiere Pro is the way to go. Otherwise I believe that on Mac you can get Final Cut for a flat fee. Or you could simply get Davinci Resolve for free.
And yes, I do believe you can do great stuff with the 90D. Any camera is ok if you master it enough to work around its disadvantages.
What is an affordable camera able to shoot at 120fps?
attasuperboys what’s your definition of affordable?
Beyond the Game TV under $1000 USD
@@attasuperboys At that price you've got the latest GoPro models. Otherwise I think Sony makes a couple of 'point and shoot' models but obviously those come with some limitations.
Beyond the Game TV anything good under $2000 USD?
@@attasuperboys The Sony A6500 seems like a good option for your needs. I've never used it myself but I heard great things.
Many thanks as always for sharing your expertise! Can you please explain how this (on purpose) choppy slomo is created? instagram.com/p/CHZFINNJIlL/?
These are either photos that were taken in one spray and then put together as a video or the video has a very low count of frames per second.
@@BeyondTheGame_E Got it... thanks!