Lord Jamar: Viral Catcalling Video Doesn't Show True Harassment
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- čas přidán 18. 11. 2014
- www.vladtv.com - Lord Jamar sat down with VladTV and shared his thoughts on the recent video footage of a woman walking the streets of NYC and being catcalled over 100 times throughout the day. Jamar says he understands the point that is trying to be made, but that he doesn't consider what most of the men were doing to be street harassment. The Brand Nubian rapper refuses to accept that a man saying "good morning beautiful" or "have a blessed day" is harassment, but if a man were to pull her arm or try to touch her inappropriately then he'd see their point.
He also spoke of how women dress will often communicate certain things to a man, pointing to a video of a woman walking around NYC in traditional Muslim garb as an example, saying there is a level of respect associated with that style of dress, and that some feminists are unrealistic to believe the man is 100% responsible for unwanted interaction if the woman is wearing something she knows will get attention.
Hear Lord Jamar's take above. - Zábava
Lesson #1 never take internet feminist serious.
SWEAR TO GOD!!!!!
Lesson #2 very very rarely take any feminist serious.
Never take ANY feminist serious...FOH
Lesson #4 never take any feminist serious
Oh god lets ignore sexual harassment and violence because feminism! UUGH! Morons
"Just because I'm dressed this way .. does not .. mean I'm a whore"
Lol
If no-one understands this reference/quote...
if I'm dressed like a cop does that mean I'm a cop?
"Got her titties popping out of her turtle neck n shit" lmao
MrTooOpinionated no dave, it doesn't
Classic Dave..
That video was bullshit. It wasn't about what was being said, but WHO was saying it. A feminist ripped that video to shreds.
romeycash Remember the name?
StormComics the factual feminist on youtube. it was good to see a feminist call out other supposed feminists on their bullshit. people would take feminism a lot more seriously if they did that more often
romeycash for real
StormComics He's referring to Christina H. Sommers(a 2nd wave feminist) that rips apart the idiocy that 3rd wave feminist fight about.
***** says the effeminate looking white boy lol
This is what happens when average women get approached too much *It inflates their egos* but if no one said anything to them, they'd just start taking selfies to post on Instagram to get likes to feel better about themselves, and fuss about how men are "scared and intimidated" to approach her... *Men can never win with these ladies*
true
this is sooooo true
You're ugly as fuck yourself. Black men are in no position to talk about anybody looks..
IntrovertedBougieBeauty Right...and you're so good looking that you forgot to display your own picture. Get lost.
IntrovertedBougieBeauty You're pathetic, you really want some attention, dont you? Well, you wont get it from me, you're blocked. Go live your sad life, and try to get a boyfriend so you dont spend your day trolling random people online.
This guy is smart as hell he represented for the men very well in this. I couldn't have said it better
#FACTS!
Fuck are you talking about.
***** elucidated
Offshore Prezi Dude thought he was smart lol
lmao
"There's things that we're both doing wrong."
Lord Jamar is correct, but he needs to understand that feminists would never agree to that. The entire premise of feminism is based on the idea that women are never wrong and are incapable of being wrong -- only men are wrong. To call out a woman for her actions or tell her to accept some responsibility is "victim blaming" or "victim shaming" according to a feminist.
I guarantee if men dressed as skimpy as some of these women dressed, they'd get a lot of lewd comments too (from both men and women). If I walked down the street in nothing but a gold thong and no other clothes, women will be staring, looking, giggling, pointing, and making comments. But using feminist logic, I would then claim that these women are "harassing" me and I did absolutely nothing to provoke it.
Feminist women are the biggest hypocrites on the planet.
yea he won't be able to reason with them.
I fucking HATE feminists! I don't give a FUCK about 'em or any of their issues!
The woman in the video was wearing a tshirt and jeans.
mechantechatonne Tight jeans and a tight shirt.
Not even roughly equivalent to walking around mostly naked...
100% wit Jamar again. How are we supposed to meet new people without communication? Squeak like a dolphin?
20willsdude DAMMIT!
20willsdude as a human in conveys you have a problem or are a damn nutcase
Now that's funny!!!
Now that's funny!!!
church, your job, school, bars, social clubs, poetry nights, etc. etc. etc... a place where its appropriate to start a conversation with a stranger
100000% agree with this man, all truth here
You have the right to ask her for her number or make a compliment Especially if she is dressed sexy. You dont have a right to follow her or disrespect her by saying offensive things like "bitch nice ass".... learn the difference.
@@albibastelle3547 he didn’t say he didn’t agree with that though. Obviously that’s disrespectful.
dana rann True but some women misinterpret and misconstrue a normal greeting as "harassment." How is saying "good morning" a form of harassment? I once said "Hi" to a woman on an elevator and she just had an angry expression on her face and buried her face into her phone. For the record, I say "Hi" to men and old ladies as well because it's just common courtesy.
I'd bet if all men got together and joined in on a "boycott women" campaign where men never greeted women since feminists tend to think all greetings by men is harassment, then women would get butthurt about that too.
They don't misinterpret your greetings at all. Most women want attention period BUT they want it from the type of men that they find desirable.. A lot of this harassment thing comes down to this, men that women find undesirable attempting to talk to them. Now they can lie and say its all men but if you talk to enough women long enough you will find out that 90% of them didn't like the fact that a man that doesn't match their standards approached them lol 10% of this is a real problem but 90% of it is more fake American outrage.
Put yourself in the shoes of a woman. Why should I have to hear anything a STRANGER has to say about my looks etc? Then I have to deal with this all day EVERYDAY. For YEARS! why don't I have the right to be left alone? If you saw the video in question then you know the men were saying more than "good morning" one dude followed that lady for 2 blocks! Its creepy and unnerving. You as a man may be harmless, but as a woman out here its not safe nor smart to accept nor want random attention from strange men. You can't even ignore them cause you never know if thatan is crazy and will over react. My friends sister was killed at a stop light by a man who tried to holla at her and she rejected him. You have to put yourself in our shoes. We deal with a lot more than just "good morning"
*that man
dana rann I agree it's wrong for the guy to follow a woman for blocks -- and Lord Jamar stated that too. But all interactions aren't the same. That can't be equated with another person who says "Good morning" or "How are you?"
I also heard from women of a certain age that young women either dislike the attention or pretend to dislike the attention, but once they hit 40 or so, they enjoy any recognition and attention they can get. Which tells me they liked the attention for the most part, but they simply took it for granted when they were young. I'm sorry for your friend's loss of her sister. Whoever did that was a monster and likely had psychological issues. His actions do not represent the vast majority of men -- he was likely a deranged person.
When you think about it, the woman who walked for 10 hours and received 100 catcalls -- how many men didn't catcall her? She walked around a city of millions of people and likely was in eyesight of thousands of men during those 10 hours. This suggests the majority of men do not catcall women. I know I don't because I'm somewhat shy so yelling things to strangers is just not who I am.
I understand your logic, but I'm talking from EXPERIENCE. Its easy to say "most women...this" "most women... That" but you're not a woman. And if women are saying they don't like that, why not just respect it? Instead of making excuses and/or examples of why "its not that bad" listen to US! we are the ones who have to deal with it. We are the ones saying we don't like it. Its like our concerns are falling on deaf ears. I know that a lot of men don't cat call, but its the ones who do that are making it hard on you guys that don't. I'm only 31 so I can't speak on what 40y/o think or feel. But we all know that everyone is different, so why not give ppl the respect of leaving them alone? You can't tell just by looking at a "regularly dressed woman" if she wants the attention or not, so just respect EVERYBODY. ( I'm speaking in general terms.. Not specifically about you)
I agree totally with this brother he's on point with his points and he's knowledgable.
When Ted Bundy stepped to women, he didn't approach them like "hey beautiful" or "what's up baby have a blessed day", etc., so I guess it's a certain TYPE of male who women don't get offended being 'catcalled' at. But when they get serial killed sliced up by the "perfect gentleman" and jack the ripper no need to feel sorry for them. Lord Jamar rocks.
I DISLIKE HARASSMENT, BUT WHEN A WOMAN TALKS ABOUT HOW MEN ARE ALWAYS ‘HITTING ON’ THEM. THAT JUST SEEMS VERY CONCEITED(IN MY OPINION).😔
I was howling laughing at the way you started that post. LMAO
😆😆😆 damn that was good
I'm fucking howling
As I have told guys before, get your passport. Get with, date, marry women from countries where women appreciate and respect men and like them being MEN, because it damn sure ain't happening here on a mass level.
Like I've always said, "If you walk down the street with a hot dog stand don't be offended if someone asks you for a frank."
A lot of ignorant dudes up in here. Harassment is uninvited or unwelcome verbal or physical contact. Stupid dude is going to tell someone when they should feel harassed or not? Homie thinks he's the ambassador of women.
Astral Prison Kinda makes the definition of Harassment stupid and entirely to subjective... If I say "good morning" and the woman doesn't find me attractive/doesn't want anything with/from me... Harassment? But if it is The Rock "Nice ass there sweetness" and the woman wants to fuck The Rock... Not Harassment???
The realest comment on this bitch
finally a voice of reason!!!!!
cat calling.. feminist have a stupid word for everything
its been called cat calling for decades
Lord Jamar is mad intelligent, we need more brothas like this on the web...
I must say that was very insightful & made a lot of sense. It gave me a different perspective in which to view things.
Love the way Jamar has become so respectful and elequent.
Instead of a campaign to end harassment they should have a campaign to end thirstyness. that shit aint cool.
True! Yeah the thirsty motherfuckers fuck it up for all men.
MrThekidisback how i.e. walking to her job. modeling, strippers, porno stars . you cant be a man and interact . GTFOH .AND EVEN SINGERS AND ACTRESSES GTFOH AGAIN
SuperiorCris Huh?
dude you gotta talk to more women. nowadays saying good morning 3 consecutive days to your lady mail carrier is considered thirsty to these chicks.
Just sayin, I worked in an environment with mostly women, sayin Hi, to a familiar face is cool, but most of them are just trying to keep it movin and just dont want to be bothered. if they want attention they will put themselves in the proper context, like a bar or something.
They constantly complain about men starring at them and trying to talk to them. Its a free country and all, but just know a lot of them don't like it day after day. I can see how it may get annoying.
Some of the most honest dialogue I've heard in a while. He articulated this perfectly.
As a professor at a prestigious university that teaches modern music history and cultures and sociology, Lord Jamar is right on point 70% to 80% of the time! That's why there's a growing cult following across America and many of my colleagues at different universities across America are starting to watch and listen to many of Lord Jamar's interviews on VLAD TV, so as to educate and teach these ignorant millennial's about real life experiences and subjects. The only subjects/topics I don't agree with Lord Jamar are the ones where he starts getting into racial/racist rants about whites vs blacks, blacks vs whites within the world of hip hop and rap music and when he puts down gays and lesbians (I'm not here to defend any gays or lesbians cause I'm not gay, but I say just leave them alone, if they haven't messed with you). Other than this, I told Lord Jamar personally that he shouldn't worry about what others think of him and that he should continue to speak his mind on all subjects and topics. I tell all of you, forget this politically correct b.s. the mainstream media has been trying to shove down Americans throats all these years! Most mainstream marketed and promoted things are mediocre and don't teach you anything. Truths need to be told no matter if it hurts people's feelings!
He's virtually never right about anything- and the fact that you're a professor at a university is a sad testament to the state of society.
IHaveNoNameRawr Yet you're choosing to watch his videos....
Ricia Love So?
IHaveNoNameRawr Why would you choose to keep watching his videos if you feel he is "virtually never right about anything"?
Ricia Love Because the way he presents his ideas and the reaction he gets from people is entertaining?
Lord Jamar, the reason why, especially, white women start complaining about cat calling is they're moving into (gentrifying) poor ghetto neighborhood, and so now they want to pass a law against cat calling. White women have to be protected from the black men who are living next to them
Shit,never saw it like that this is deeper than I thought
JCsTurn68 C Ohhhhh no no no no no....We ain't doing that.....Stop blaming White Women for complaining about cat calling when Black men have nooo problem cat calling anything with ass and tits....White men seem to value svelte waists and big tits...Yea been cat called by all types of nasty ( I keep it moving.Aint got time for your bullshit....Bitch gota go to work.) But my sistahs got it worse...Dudes trying to grab and then keep them from leaving because you that damn thirsty..... Even when they tell them I got a man....Calm down....You paid attention to a female. She don't owe you nothing.
11:36 of truth. Lord Jamar really saying real stuff.
She could have been light skinned black from the back (clears throat) LMAO!!
as a woman, I can only half agree with this. it really doesn't matter what women wear some men will still "cat call" and harass. the woman in the video was not dressed provocatively at all and STILL got harassed. I think men need to understand that women are not here for, do not go out to hear the rude comments that come from some guys. some men act as if it's their right to yell out things to women. some men act like they're doing women a favor by doing cat calls. we all have the right to walk down the street without being harassed. why is that so hard to understand? the women who do dress provocatively usually want the type of attention they receive. but if it's just a regular woman on her way to .. where ever... LEAVE HER THE FUCK ALONE! men don't want to be harassed by police for no reason, well women don't want to be harassed by strange men either! it's all about RESPECT or the lack there of.
Lord Jamar for Mayor
if ya woman don't want to be "cat called" and harass, then don't look appealing..yes their are guys who go overboard, but subconsciously ya females love the attention.Ya would talk about it to your homegirls like "OMG this guy try to talk to me" acting like ya dont like it when ya really do.Why do you think men get haircuts and look fly?? To impress ya females and why do ya females get their hair done, nails done, everything did? To get "CAT CALLED". If you dont want anybody to approach you then dont look appealing look like a bum
Yo I love hearing Jamar talk. He be spitting that real shit.
keep posting lord jamar interviews
Jamar is the homey. Real talk again. Vlad, keep this dude mane.
this guy said worry about Uncle jhonny lmao
I made so many video responses to this bit. XD
5:42 feminist would be like "So are you saying our bodies are like FOOD to you pigs?!" lol can't win w/ these women.
+lRattrap "these women"? oh so your saying women are your property you pig?! its so funny bro
that's why you keep em in the kitchen and whip on em when the dinner is cold to keep em in line
+Kanye Christ Also when you're socks haven't been ironed.
tyro apache right on brother
lRattrap shows that women have a mental problem as well and they know that using they lower self to get what they want works. Completely screwing the indigenous man mind when we already have mental issues with other stress
Crying laughing when Jamar said give me a stiffy right now lmao
He is speaking the truth!
We should go a year where the women should take on the role of the initiator; chasing, asking out, even proposing. Let's just see what happens.
Nothing, they would all form a self-esteem support groups because no one thinks they're pretty. The upside is the population would drop.
All these women complaining about catcalling are not really complaining about catcalling. They are complaining about the quality of the guys that are catcalling but don't like to admit that as it makes them shallow humans so they use the catcalling as the main focus of the excuse instead.
I'm gonna need the unedited version of that video in order for me to believe it.
Lord Jamar keeps it 100.
Hijab protects a woman, this is why I love Islam.
This is real , there has been a number of times that I've told a female "good morning " "how are you " small talk , and you can just see it or some even say I have a boyfriend , when I just say hi some think I'm flirting or want something from them
woory bout uncle jhonny them stats! LOL
Damn Lord jamar be on IT!!!!! Damn he spit the truth.
knicks check jacket: uncut dope
Lord Jamar's on point with this one
Lord Jamar is the man! Well-spoken, intelligent brother we need more dudes like him on the real...
"Ethnically ambiguous".....nice!
Lord Jamar hit the nail right on the head on this subject so much it's unbelievable.
See, in videos like this Lord Jamar makes great points and is smart as hell. He's dropping mad knowledge here. But then on other videos he turns around and says Raven Symone is an idiot for saying "I don't identify as black", or he shows his ignorance about gays or religion. I've never seen someone so smart on some subjects but yet so ignorant on other subjects, as Lord Jamar. I have a love/hate relationship with this dude haha. But great video here. Thumbs up.
Its this society, we live in a day and time where women truly believe the attire they wear when they go to nightclubs, parties, and average functions that overcomplement their figure is appropriate and it isnt. Lord Jamar is very correct when he speaks on the energy you receive due to what you choose to wear. This is why karma is so true as well as spiritual. What you give to the world, comes directly back to you
Lord Jamar is always on point. Love this dudes mind and hearing him voice his opinion.
One point I feel was kind of neglected when seeing the video: 10 hours walking though one of the worlds most populous city and a hundred people tried to make contact with her in one way or another... Wouldnt the opposite be worse in a way? Passing by hundred thousands, (millions?) of people and not a single one even acknowleging your existance? Not as much as a nod in your general direction? A more likely scenario in the country were I'm from. Cultural differences.
Will someone please give his guy his own show!
Vlad practically has
This is my response to dana rann, a woman who is afraid of having an open discussion so she blocks others from responding.
You need to understand the difference between being annoyed and being harassed. They are not, I repeat, ARE NOT the same thing. Let's say you're sitting on the train next to a mother and her baby boy. The baby starts crying his eyes out and there's nothing you can do about it because there are no other seats available and your stop doesn't come for another 20 mins. Are you annoyed by this? Of course you are. Would you consider this baby harassing you? Of course not.
Street harassment is when someone intervenes with something you're trying to accomplish for the day. For example, If you're on your way to work and a guy grabs your arm and tries to holla at you, that's street harassment. If a man walks in your path and prevents you from moving forward because he wants to talk to you, that's street harassment. Even if a dude walks alongside you for 5 mins like in that video, that's street harassment. A man complimenting you on your appearance as you walk by is not street harassment.
Women are like the President, who has the right to pass or veto things. If a guy tries to talk to you, you have the right to say no and you have the right to allow him to engage you. Just like a dude you go on a date with. You give him the right to kiss you or fuck you or whatever. If he takes any of it without your consent then guess what that is? Rape. That's never cool.
You do have the right to walk down the street and not be cat called. However, as men, we also have the right to cat call you whenever we please. We can do this because of 3 words... Freedom of Speech. It doesn't matter how you're dress, if the guy finds you attractive, he's going to approach you. I would recommend you enjoy it while it last and when your looks fade, the only time someone is going to yell something to you is for you to get out the way.
Finally, you're police example doesn't fly for this topic because the police stop people they suspect are doing criminal activity. It's not a crime for a guy to call you beautiful. There's no law that states I can't tell you how nice that dress looks on you. 2 different subjects. You'll have to use a better example than that.
I freaking love his interviews!!
I'm going to share this video on feminist blogs, make some popcorn, and comeback to the comment section.
LORD JAMAR IS THE TRUTH AND WE NEED MORE BROTHAS LIKE HIM!
Excellent point Lord Jamar, u stay saying some tru shit
Lol when he said one every six minute. Get shut down
Lord Jamar droppin' that truth and knowledge.
Always trust Lord Jamar ......Chicagoground
a way a women dresses is not to blame for street harassment. Jeez people :/
Lord jamar for president .....the realest dude vlad interviews
Wow. That is the smartest and deepest thing Lord Jamar has said. Very insightful. Wholeheartedly agree.
Half the video was filmed in Harlem, the whole methodology of that video is flawed. It should be done again, and she should actually walk around NYC not just Harlem, and they should keep all the cat calls, not just a majority from a certain race of people.
This dude should have his own show. ...keep doing your thing my dude
vlad turned jamar into a hip hop dr phil. the way i see it is this. if a woman walking down the street gets complimented by a dude shes not attracted to she gonna be repulsed but if she is attracted to him she gonna giggle and blush
oops mrgrownupman beat me to it. its true tho
It's all about how you carry yourself. I get what he's saying.
lololol did Lord Jamar say "ellici-dated" instead of illicited ?
Lets be real, it's only considered "harassment" to catcall a women if you are ugly.
I mean he has no bearing on what he's talking about, and is uninformed on what he says
For me, a sexualising comment
/harresment is staring/commenting on something other than your face. But I have to say, compliments randomly said to me as I'm walking by can be creepy if there was prior no communication between me and that person
him and Steele from Smif n Wessun look like brothers
lessons King, "The Apron on proclaims the man"
lord jamar better than charlamagne he dont dick ride Jay Z Nicki minaj or rihanna he always kept it real
Nobody speaks the truth nowadays! Lord Jamar is the realest!!!
I have never agreed more with Jamar in my entire life
Well said
Man Lord Jamar gets it.... this brutha makes sense every time I watched his interviews.
Well he ain't lying yo
There's a difference between disrespect and harassment
lord jamar is a former navy seal
very true, agree with him fully. We actually had this discussion in class. I didn't have the right words to tell my prof, but this is how i felt.
I'm a woman and I completely agree with what he is saying.
BEST PART @8:50
Lord Jamar is the OG man gotta respect him for his honest opinion. Even if you don't agree with him you can tell it's well thought out.
LORD JAMAR IS THE TRUTH
Im sorry but if a man touches a woman without consent or yells "bitch give me your ass" he is 100% responsible for his behavior, NOT the woman. Its not just an reaction to a short skirt. Its hos shitty attitude and basically a crime. Men like this cant just say "well of she would wear a longer dress I wouldnt do this"... Its tje same like saying "the rapist just reacted to her skirt"...wtf?
But I also agree that comments like "hey you are very fine" arent harassment and women are also responsible for it if dressing sexy...sure!! because its not harassment.
All Im saying is that TRUE harassment is never ok regardless of the dress BUT compliments or comments are something different.
Albiba Stelle bitch shut the fuck up !!
I am in favor of all men taking a 365 1/2 day hiatus from acknowledging women's attractiveness. For science.
Pen and Ink Chronicles They'd prolly kill themselves.
Pen and Ink Chronicles women would lose their minds because let’s keep it real a lot of them like it
Lord Jamar is on point, as usual.
A woman can't help the way she's shaped. smh But men can and should control themselves.
"Aaa Bitch" lol
So what should we make it illegal for men to talk to women they don't know on the street? Then whats next? Women on social networking and dating sites getting too many disrespectful messages lets make it illegal to send them messages unless they flag you and say its ok to message me now?
This guy is 100% right!
Never mind. Please forgive my intrusion.
This can make women uncomfortable, copliments that are kind and clean are fine, but some women have low self esteem so shouting ''Hey sexy" doesn't help. " If you say have a nice day'' or simply a hello that could make a woman's day.
We need brian pumper to speak on this topic !!!
I completely agree with his point
Stop giving them compliments and they will still complain
LOGIC!