A card that makes you instantly win the game if your opponent asks a question about how to play the game seems like the most beginner's trap card you could possibly have
There was a mechanic in one of the joke mtg sets called "gotcha" which triggered when your opponent said certain words. One of the main game designers in on record saying its the worst mechanic they have ever made
Not a TCG, but Hex Hex has a card that you read out and if someone wasn't paying attention and is wondering why everyone else is got a finger on their head. They loss.
This reminds me when my bf tried to teach me mtg.. he never went easy, went at his own pace, and never explained every step. I developed a fear of the color blue for a year
Finally gave in and let a friend of mine try to teach me MTG once. He gave me one of two pre-made decks so we could just see how it worked. By the end of the game, I never got to attack his life points or whatever even once, and he finished with more than he started. Never again.
He wasn't trying to teach you to play, he was trying to goldfish against an opponanant. He was setting you up as a jobber. He wanted to have a better win ratio so he didn't teach you the game properly. But also, fear of the colour blue is a rational reaponse to playing Magic. (Other emotions include: annoyed at green, thrilled by red, white is there, dreading black, )
i played yugioh again with my friends after years of having quit because of people who play cards without reading them (was when spellbooks came out) and the first deck they used both told me i cant do anything and also won in 1 turn. i now play traptrixes out of spite.
@@themightytalkingsalamander5169 Are you running Time-Tearing Morganite in your Traptrix deck? free extra Normal summon, extra draw, and you don't really run in hand monster effects aside from maybe the Arachno?
"I still have more cards to play" hits hard, especially when you are setting up a great move and your opponent can already see that they lost and they want to quit playing
Yep. Especially if a player is playing a deck that is slow grind it out pace deck with the big bang at the end, but every deck you play is agro that quit if it's not going their way early on
Literally me on Duel links. I don't play ranked much because I'm not good, but every now and then I hop on and draw the perfect hand but before I can have any fun the opponent surrenders. I don't even take that long (at least not as long as I want for other players to decide to set one card and end their turn).
Painfully true. If they already have lethal on the board and they keep summoning or playing, I just surrender at that point. Like, just help me move on, you don’t need to go for the flair!
It is during the end-flash step. Before the game recognises the surrender it has to clean up the game state. As per the updated ruling on the flash-flash-forward phase (badly worded as it technically isn't a phase) Surrenders are only looked at before the beginning of the moo-cow step. This is to prevent people from surrendering before the "Victory Cow" card can graze the field and win the entire match. (If Victory cow grazes the field and there are no plant counters left on the field the player owning the Victory cow wins the match. A match is a best of 3 game)
Funny-ish story time: Yugioh had to specifically make a rule around this due to the existence of a card called Victory Dragon. Necessary context: Yugioh is played in a best of 3 match format. So even if you lose one game, you can still win the match 2-1 off the back of it. Victory Dragon has the effect that if it kills your opponent, they lose the match. Not the GAME, the MATCH. All 3 games. And that's why Yugioh had to clarify that, yes, the player can forfeit the match AT ANY TIME, including after battle declaration and before the damage step is calculated. Meaning players can just concede right before Victory Dragon connects, losing only a single game but not the whole match. Before this, there were genuinely arguments being had over this like "Yeah I know you conceded but I STILL GET TO ATTACK, so you lose the other games too bro." "Nuh-uh, I conceded! The match is over! Stop trying to play cards!"
@@Rynjinivar and yet somehow yugioh is worse now than it was than. I'd take some bullshit victory dragon to hasten matches over the child porn shit and meta decks that take ten minutes to go off but somehow it's a "fast" game because it's ten minute set ups to otk
I love the idea of a card that only works when someone asks something about the game. That's never going to come up in high level play, it's just there to smite newbies.
Well there would be counterplay because there would be a card that only works when your opponent plays (or does not play) a card in response to you asking a question
There is a MtG card Stone-Cold Basilisk that has a destroy-on-attack/block ability and your opponent may want to know the specifics of why, but you don't always have to explain your cards to your opponents, most of the time either they know already or (important in this case), they take your card to read it themselves. This card "turns to stone" your opponent when they read it, which means they literally can't do anything else during this turn, they can't block, attack, cast spells or activate abilities... This card is also in Unhinged, one of the "joke" sets of Magic where normal rules are often a suggestion and that you can't play in any tournament with (well, 99% of the time).
It's his dedication to the continuity and depth of it, and all the prop cards he made just for it. You can tell he had fun. But also that he's a nerd and he's in his element 😂 I'm not into card games but he makes the humor super accessible and still hilarious.
Honestly, after trying out DQ11, I'm now waiting to hear more about the King Dragon saga. I wonder how many cliches JRPGs have and how they could be good skit material.
It's clear he put a lot of thought into this fake game, can't wait for him to turn it into an actual card game, that's a crowdfund that I would 100% contribute to
I love how this starts off reasonable, and you can connect with all the characters on a deep emotional level before it is destroyed in a fury of nonsense
I always want to play Magic with my husband but I'm not very experienced and every time we play he goes so hard I'm at -60. When I've asked him why he doesn't just hit me once and call it a win he tells me that feels disrespectful 😂
The flavor text on Baby Punchable Cow is "Star Dragons are the world's police and the Imperial Thunder Dragon is an ally of justice" - I think we just got some important ProZD lore.
I mean, trying to play with Imperial Thunder Dragon Siegwurm does kind of feel like putting a baby punchable cow onto the board with how understatted it is so...
@@wanderlustwarrior Nah, that one is flavor text lifted directly from Battle Spirits Saga. Battle Spirits does have a lot of parallels to YGO, at least in terms of card art design. It even has a (surprisingly solid) anime that takes place in a world where everyone solves their problems in over the top card duels.
@@lukeingle5587 money pit? nah man $20 USD for a mono red insta competitive deck, and i am talking about a 100 card deck. You just have to know what you are looking for and how to fucking read which i know Yugioh players never do
I remember my second game ever playing the WoW TCG (essentially WoW themed MTG. Also literally the second time I'd ever played a table top card game). The player then proceeded to on his first turn banish a six or seven cost monster to the shadow realm, then on turn two use a two cost card to bring it through a portal from the shadow realm onto the field. Its effect was that it dealt one damage to every monster on my side of the field at the end of his turn and anything that was dealt damage could not be untapped during my starting phase. The only reason I still play card games is because the shop owner saw what was happening, and actually sat down with me with a beginner deck he had, and I was able to actually have fun.
same for yugioh these days. it's so unfriendly towards beginners, because most of the game just doesn't happen. You won't ever learn the phases by playing, because they don't really mean anything anymore. just like turn order. you just basically watch someone play solitaire for 5 minutes during YOUR TURN, then say "Ok, now you can go" only to cast a spell or some shit as a reaction to the next breath you take and somehow kill you without it being clear how.
@@st0lfi learned yugiob a few years back in peak rokket meta, and when i brought up whoever goes first basically just wins i always got told "just play mystic mine" 💀💀 im so glad i stuck through and learned to play fr bc that made me want to quit
"Third Time's The Farm" actually makes a lot of sense and is a very clever way to say "defeat" (cause... y'know... "they took the farm" or "bet the farm on it" as allusions to losing everything). 10/10
@@moowaffels I feel like the mistake to actually spell the pun word properly just improves the charm of this comment, and may have even been the secret intent all along. 🤔
For real. I had to make a painfully bad deck to be able to play properly with a new player without ending the game very fast. I didn’t want them to be discouraged so we’ve been gradually playing better decks as they get more accustomed to the game
A result of the games being out for so long is that the skill ceiling is just so much higher than the floor now. The rules themselves don’t take too long to pick up, it’s just that modern cards are notably more advanced than the cards you would give to a new player for practice / learning.
@@DanielSmith-sf5om I recently got dragged into the game by friends again and the Commander format has been a lot less crazy for me, especially if play with a few people in the same game to constantly snipe the most dangerous seeming person at any given moment :D
@@DanielSmith-sf5om I have a set of starter decks set aside to teach new players. I've found it helps to give them a basic deck and work up from there.
It would actually matter in more than 2 player games too since conceding is an instantaneous effect which removes all cards that you own from the game, which could mess with other players that may have taken control of your cards somehow
So uhhhh, funny story about that. There has been a series of no banlist Yu-Gi-Oh OCG (Original Card Game) tournaments. The OCG and TCG (Trading Card Game) have different rulesets, banlists (not relevant here because these tournaments had no banlists), and card pools. A couple of tournaments in, someone noticed an important rules difference between the OCG and the TCG: In the TCG a player can unilaterally concede and end the game instantly in a loss. In the OCG, a player can only concede if their opponent accepts the concession. Setting aside the possibility of hostage taking, this is relevant because of a little card called "Victory Dragon", an understatted, very difficult to summon, basically vanilla fusion monster that reads "If Victory Dragon attacks and reduces the opponent's life points to 0, the controlling player wins 2 games instead of 1". This card is unplayable garbage in the TCG because the opponent can just concede the moment it becomes clear Victory Dragon is going to take the game, meaning they only lose 1 game instead of 2 and the opponent just wasted a bunch of resources on what is basically a fancy Blue Eyes White Dragon. It's also very banned in both the OCG and the TCG because the devs realized that cards that have effects outside of the game they're played in are terrible design and should never see the light of day. Unfortunately for the TOs of this particular series of tournaments however, no banlist means no banlist, so Victory Dragon was very much on the menu, ripe for exploitation. Making Victory Dragon even stronger is the fact that, as I'm sure you can imagine, the power level of this no banlist meta was exceedingly high, meaning there were plenty of games where one player was just completely locked out of the game in the first turn or two with little to no chance of a comeback. Because of this, the winning player has all day(aka a turn or two, given the speed of this meta) to setup the Victory Dragon and clinch the entire set off a single game. And that's why nobody designs cards like this for serious competitive play anymore.
@@anxiousearth680 That's actually a real card game term, mostly used for online games when "infinite turn" bugs crop up, allowing one player to keep their turn forever without actually winning the game or giving their opponent the opportunity to win/play. It's exceedingly rare for the term to also preclude the opponent from conceding though.
This is why when I'm teaching a new player how to play, we play with all normally hidden information open, and just run through it until the new player has a basic grasp of the rules. Then we play for real, though still with some degree of slowness to explain anything they don't understand.
This was basically my experience when, as a pokemon tcg player, I played a game of mtg for the first time and didnt know I could activate cards on the other persons turn, that is until they activated a card during my turn xD fun times
@@hellopeoples8 it's a line from a castlevania game, "what is a man but a miserable pile of secrets?" That qoute came out of left field and hit me straight in the gut lol
The first game of Magic I played with anyone (after learning the rules with my friend) my opponent summoned infinite elves by turn 3 or 4. He said he specifically uses that deck on newcomers.
It's always either that or "Okay, this is a card. It is a rectangular piece of cardboard with various things on it. You hold cards in your hands. This is called your 'hand' because it is in your hand."
I have been occasionally giving you a watch once in a while over the years; this is my first in a while. And I just had to say, your pun game has grown to new heights. I need a foil TTtF for my Magic deck.
This perfect parodys and summerises Yugioh Timeing window's and when you can activate quick effects. Like Fairy Tail snow and the resolution of chains.
This got suggested to me right after the "why I don't play fighting games" video, which makes complete sense, because CCGs are just fighting games for people with bad reflexes, and CZcams knows I'm over 40
You just gave SungWon the opportunity to play the "I want this to be a real card game with absolutely no care given to balance or playability" card, which means he wins a thousand games in a row
@@justanobody0 well then I play "Moo-ve on over from the winners circle: Ultimate Fortune Reversal Zero to Hero" which says that if I lose exactly one thousand games in a row I retroactively win those games or a large pizza if it's Thursday
The flash step thing is so accurate. Me when I learned MtG, and my friends went over all the phases with me, only to hit me with "Oh yeah you can also just play counter cards after someone finishes a phase but before their next one starts" and absolutely demolished me xD
I had this happen when I tried to get back into MTG. I had a budget rwu weenies/aura deck and the guy used a tournament ready charbelcher deck for a “friendly match to get back into it”. On turn 2 or 3 he dropped some cards, started looking through his deck and after about 1 minute of wordlessly sorting through his deck, removing cards, putting others on top, etc he looked up and went “oh, you lost btw” and went back to looking through the deck.
The ending hit me hard. When I'm losing hard at a video game and instead of just ending the enemy team just kills me over and over "I STILL GOT MORE KILLS TO DO."
Very accurate. I’ve tried a few different ones online and as soon as you’re out of the tutorial period every player seems to use about 100 cards a second and they all flash up and away so fast you have no idea what they actually did, just that you have no life points left.
I had trouble explaining the standby phase in yugioh untill I started naming it "shennanigans phase" "It's the shennanigans phase, do you have any shennanigans to activate?" "Oh yeah, I have that trap card I set, I'm gonna use it now"
As a Yugioh fans, this is true. Not because of all the summoning mechanics or 100+ words for card effects but rather all the rulings regarding Problem Solving Card Text (PSCT), Damage Step Rulings, Missing the Timing, Spell Speeds, Simultaneous Effects, Chain Blocking, Priority, etc. It's all very convulated and most of it doesn't make the game more fun as it does just make it orderly.
All these are incredibly accurate of a game I started playing less than a year ago, even the phases, oh my god, are all playing the cow game without knowing!?
as a casual tcg player this is exactly what it is like to play against people at card shops who get way too into the game. also a contributing factor to me quitting tcgs (that and wotc gross treatment of their consumers) but these are my favorite bits, wish i could super like them.
I hear you there. I used to play Yugioh casually with my friends. So casually in fact we had just not used the link summon mechanic and all the stuff it came with, because we just didn't like it. When I moved away and couldn't play with them anymore I just couldn't enjoy playing anymore. The game got way too fast for my liking and Magic was too expensive.
@@Ryujishida The main reason I quit is that it's so hard to get an even match even in casual settings. I was using a somewhat pure dinowrestler deck. The people that play meta will ofc kick my shins in. Yet before I made that deck, another dude who used to play tournaments back in the day couldn't win against me because his deck was super old. What did I win with? Freaking JURRACS of all things. Made me feel like the cards people have matter more then skill at the game. I dislike the duel being won before it even starts, so maybe card games aren't for me.
the "nevermind I just won, pretend I didn't do that" is painfully accurate
SungWon probably does this to experienced players too
Man I’ve done that
Happens to me all the time.
And yet he counted that win to activate Third Time's the Farm.
@@yoshitsuna27 He might have counted a previous game from before the video started.
I like how he says to forget he won the first game, but when he plays the "Third time's the farm" card, he counts the win he said to forget about
He played the long con and it payed out big.
The after he said to forget about him winning the game, the rest of the video takes place as a Self-Imposed Handicap Flash Step, come on.
Should've played a card during the Victory Forgetting Flash Window
He asks his opponent to pretend he didn't win. He didn't say anything about _himself_ pretending he didn't win.
lol so true
A card that makes you instantly win the game if your opponent asks a question about how to play the game seems like the most beginner's trap card you could possibly have
Sounds like Muffin Time
Sounds very win more.
The name of the game is Mao
There was a mechanic in one of the joke mtg sets called "gotcha" which triggered when your opponent said certain words. One of the main game designers in on record saying its the worst mechanic they have ever made
Not a TCG, but Hex Hex has a card that you read out and if someone wasn't paying attention and is wondering why everyone else is got a finger on their head. They loss.
One day we’ll manage to cobble together a complete game from these skits.
Which will activate my "hoof and mouth disease" trap card. Muahahaha
that's what we said about the king dragon timeline
@@araa5422 I mean someone made a playlist which puts the videos in chronological order
The game is horribly designed if you can win in two turns from the start.
@@evannibbe9375 my friend have you ever engaged in the game of Yugioh? Games typically last between 2-4 turns, sometimes only one.
Every day we get closer to finally deciphering the rules of the cow game
Or maybe farther from it. Hard to tell
Wishful thinking
I'm afraid we're are so far out of SungWon's league in this game that we ought to purge our memories of this game's existence
One Flash Step forward, two Cow Jumps Over The Moon backward
Only 10,569 (and counting) more rules to go!
The "mooserable little pile of secrets" really got me
this game needs to be made
What about "third time's the farm" 😂😂😂
But enough talk!
I totally wasn’t expecting it and burst out laughing
SOTN jokes in 2023. Truly we are in the best timeline
This reminds me when my bf tried to teach me mtg.. he never went easy, went at his own pace, and never explained every step. I developed a fear of the color blue for a year
...ah, the i wanna win instead of friendly back2back player
That's just all blue players, so don't worry about it.
Finally gave in and let a friend of mine try to teach me MTG once. He gave me one of two pre-made decks so we could just see how it worked. By the end of the game, I never got to attack his life points or whatever even once, and he finished with more than he started. Never again.
I lost to a blue deck by running out of cards, the whole game was, Discard, Discard, Discard.
He wasn't trying to teach you to play, he was trying to goldfish against an opponanant. He was setting you up as a jobber. He wanted to have a better win ratio so he didn't teach you the game properly.
But also, fear of the colour blue is a rational reaponse to playing Magic.
(Other emotions include: annoyed at green, thrilled by red, white is there, dreading black, )
While teaching my friend yugioh, I remember sitting on a solemn judgement for the entire game because I didnt want to end their turn too early.
Now that is restraint.
i played yugioh again with my friends after years of having quit because of people who play cards without reading them (was when spellbooks came out) and the first deck they used both told me i cant do anything and also won in 1 turn. i now play traptrixes out of spite.
@@themightytalkingsalamander5169 bro rocking that stun playstyle fr
Patient solemns are best solemns
@@themightytalkingsalamander5169 Are you running Time-Tearing Morganite in your Traptrix deck?
free extra Normal summon, extra draw, and you don't really run in hand monster effects aside from maybe the Arachno?
"I still have more cards to play" hits hard, especially when you are setting up a great move and your opponent can already see that they lost and they want to quit playing
Yep. Especially if a player is playing a deck that is slow grind it out pace deck with the big bang at the end, but every deck you play is agro that quit if it's not going their way early on
Scoop Phase
Literally me on Duel links. I don't play ranked much because I'm not good, but every now and then I hop on and draw the perfect hand but before I can have any fun the opponent surrenders. I don't even take that long (at least not as long as I want for other players to decide to set one card and end their turn).
Sun Disk players in LoR be like...
Painfully true. If they already have lethal on the board and they keep summoning or playing, I just surrender at that point. Like, just help me move on, you don’t need to go for the flair!
The idea that you can continue to attack during your opponent's surrender is so classic TCG.
It is during the end-flash step. Before the game recognises the surrender it has to clean up the game state.
As per the updated ruling on the flash-flash-forward phase (badly worded as it technically isn't a phase) Surrenders are only looked at before the beginning of the moo-cow step. This is to prevent people from surrendering before the "Victory Cow" card can graze the field and win the entire match. (If Victory cow grazes the field and there are no plant counters left on the field the player owning the Victory cow wins the match. A match is a best of 3 game)
It's like that time Yugi just kept beating up a kid by continuing to draw monster cards to deal damage even after the kid's HP hit 0.
Funny-ish story time: Yugioh had to specifically make a rule around this due to the existence of a card called Victory Dragon.
Necessary context: Yugioh is played in a best of 3 match format. So even if you lose one game, you can still win the match 2-1 off the back of it.
Victory Dragon has the effect that if it kills your opponent, they lose the match. Not the GAME, the MATCH. All 3 games.
And that's why Yugioh had to clarify that, yes, the player can forfeit the match AT ANY TIME, including after battle declaration and before the damage step is calculated. Meaning players can just concede right before Victory Dragon connects, losing only a single game but not the whole match.
Before this, there were genuinely arguments being had over this like "Yeah I know you conceded but I STILL GET TO ATTACK, so you lose the other games too bro." "Nuh-uh, I conceded! The match is over! Stop trying to play cards!"
@@Rynjinivar I think you said match when you meant game a couple times there at the end. Classic beginner mistake.
@@Rynjinivar and yet somehow yugioh is worse now than it was than. I'd take some bullshit victory dragon to hasten matches over the child porn shit and meta decks that take ten minutes to go off but somehow it's a "fast" game because it's ten minute set ups to otk
"What is a flash window?! A Mooserable pile of secrets!!"
Meme game is simply God Tier. The man is unstoppable!
Gonna bet it was from the hit game Cattle-vania.
@@giannieg Three weeks later and this random comment made me spit out my morning coffee *and* scare my cat at the same time. Well done.
Sym-farm-y of the Night is my favorite Mootroidvania game.
"But enough Talk! have at the!"
I love the idea of a card that only works when someone asks something about the game. That's never going to come up in high level play, it's just there to smite newbies.
*me trying to remember if I can cast something in response to someone sacrificing a treasure*
s...sure...
Well there would be counterplay because there would be a card that only works when your opponent plays (or does not play) a card in response to you asking a question
There is a MtG card Stone-Cold Basilisk that has a destroy-on-attack/block ability and your opponent may want to know the specifics of why, but you don't always have to explain your cards to your opponents, most of the time either they know already or (important in this case), they take your card to read it themselves.
This card "turns to stone" your opponent when they read it, which means they literally can't do anything else during this turn, they can't block, attack, cast spells or activate abilities...
This card is also in Unhinged, one of the "joke" sets of Magic where normal rules are often a suggestion and that you can't play in any tournament with (well, 99% of the time).
The cow card game remains my favorite recurring bit. I'm just... so fascinated with it.
Cheese factory 😂
It's his dedication to the continuity and depth of it, and all the prop cards he made just for it. You can tell he had fun. But also that he's a nerd and he's in his element 😂 I'm not into card games but he makes the humor super accessible and still hilarious.
Honestly, after trying out DQ11, I'm now waiting to hear more about the King Dragon saga. I wonder how many cliches JRPGs have and how they could be good skit material.
There's always mooooore to learn. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
It's clear he put a lot of thought into this fake game, can't wait for him to turn it into an actual card game, that's a crowdfund that I would 100% contribute to
He actually goes out of his way to create physical cards for all this
They also get higher quality every time
I think these mirror the actual layout of the sponsored game
AND puts them in sleeves.
His wife makes them
It's only a matter of time before he Kickstart's a real game
Eagerly awaiting the day SungWon finally announces an actual cow-based card game. I WILL buy it
It BETTER include "Third Time's the Farm!"
I love how this starts off reasonable, and you can connect with all the characters on a deep emotional level before it is destroyed in a fury of nonsense
So in other words your average game of Magic the Gathering then.
I love how he goes from "Oh oops I won't do that to go easy on you" to "I will completely destroy you" in an instant.
TCG players can't help it, it's just who they are. They're broken as people 😂
I mean, you can't choose when you get the OTK, it just happens
Well you always seem to get the best hands when you’re teaching a new player.
“It’s not MY fault all my decks have 15 ways to utterly decimate a new player.”
That's literally anything competitive.
The "A mooserable little pile of secrets" part was pure unfiltered comedic gold. 💀😂
but enough talk, moo at you!
@@darkrexkigntstone8773 Have at moo*
It's always a good day for a Castlevania reference
"what is a cow?"
I want this card framed in my house
This was me literally crying while learning Magic against someone who decided to use a Blue deck against me and I was like WHAT IS GOING ON?!?
I started playing Magic the Gathering with my very experienced friends and it’s just miserable every time - this video speaks to my soul
That was my experience with Magic back in the 90s... i gave up on it REAL quick.
I always want to play Magic with my husband but I'm not very experienced and every time we play he goes so hard I'm at -60. When I've asked him why he doesn't just hit me once and call it a win he tells me that feels disrespectful 😂
They're probably playing some shitty format like EDH or Legacy. Standard games you can't win that quickly. It's much more balanced.
@@Philosjutsu problem is standard tends to either flip between luck based jank or meta decks that have been played 10 million times
The good news is there are plenty of other card games out there -- even by the creator of MTG. Try some others!
The flavor text on Baby Punchable Cow is "Star Dragons are the world's police and the Imperial Thunder Dragon is an ally of justice" - I think we just got some important ProZD lore.
I mean, trying to play with Imperial Thunder Dragon Siegwurm does kind of feel like putting a baby punchable cow onto the board with how understatted it is so...
Are those *all* yugioh references, or just the last few, and some are references to another game?
Ah yes, random descriptions, source of the finest lore
@@wanderlustwarrior Nah, that one is flavor text lifted directly from Battle Spirits Saga.
Battle Spirits does have a lot of parallels to YGO, at least in terms of card art design. It even has a (surprisingly solid) anime that takes place in a world where everyone solves their problems in over the top card duels.
@@webbowser8834 Lifted directly including the "Thunder Dragon" and "Ally of Justice" parts that are YGO archetypes?
“Nevermind I just won, pretend I didn’t do that” is exactly what happened the first time one of my friends tried to teach me how to play Magic
holding back is too painful
@@kaukospots You'll get over it
Lul welcome to Magic, hope you enjoy your money pit, know I do.
@@lukeingle5587 money pit? nah man $20 USD for a mono red insta competitive deck, and i am talking about a 100 card deck. You just have to know what you are looking for and how to fucking read which i know Yugioh players never do
Yeah my experience trying to get into Magic back in the late 90s was similarly brutal.
Having a card that explicitly has an effect if someone asks what a flash step is ABSOLUTELY implies this guy came to fuck with the newbie.
I can't believe it's 2023 and we're in a renaissance of cow game skits :')
Congrats on the featured cards Sungwon, they look awesome!
I think we all can collectively come together to appreciate the genuis of "third times the farm."
Turd times the farm...
Man, the "I still have more cards to play" phase is way more aggressive than the "Cheese Tasting" phase!
l put my hamster in a sock and slammed it against the furniture.
ProZD has just grown more short-tempered over the years. He simply wants to finally find a worthy opponent!! 😫
This is exactly how I feel whenever I try to play magic or Yu-Gi-Oh now.
My friend and I only use structure or character decks because meta Yugioh is some of the most unfun, solitaire garbage either of us have ever played.
yeah this is more like Yu-gi-oh- MTG other than blue doesn't move this quickly.
I remember my second game ever playing the WoW TCG (essentially WoW themed MTG. Also literally the second time I'd ever played a table top card game). The player then proceeded to on his first turn banish a six or seven cost monster to the shadow realm, then on turn two use a two cost card to bring it through a portal from the shadow realm onto the field. Its effect was that it dealt one damage to every monster on my side of the field at the end of his turn and anything that was dealt damage could not be untapped during my starting phase.
The only reason I still play card games is because the shop owner saw what was happening, and actually sat down with me with a beginner deck he had, and I was able to actually have fun.
same for yugioh these days. it's so unfriendly towards beginners, because most of the game just doesn't happen.
You won't ever learn the phases by playing, because they don't really mean anything anymore. just like turn order. you just basically watch someone play solitaire for 5 minutes during YOUR TURN, then say "Ok, now you can go" only to cast a spell or some shit as a reaction to the next breath you take and somehow kill you without it being clear how.
@@st0lfi learned yugiob a few years back in peak rokket meta, and when i brought up whoever goes first basically just wins i always got told "just play mystic mine" 💀💀 im so glad i stuck through and learned to play fr bc that made me want to quit
Even though this is a skit, SungWon is definitely the super seasoned player
Seasoned with what, though?
@@ramiel7666 Pepper.
@@ramiel7666 Sugar, spice, and everything nice
I like how the mechanics of the cow game are intentionally designed to troll new players and end friendships.
this feels just like explaining the steps on Yu-Gi-Oh!'s battle phase
"Third Time's The Farm" actually makes a lot of sense and is a very clever way to say "defeat" (cause... y'know... "they took the farm" or "bet the farm on it" as allusions to losing everything). 10/10
Don’t forget to wake up your friend while they sleep so you can play the utterly tired card during the REM step.
*Udderly
@@boogerparty oh lol yea that was the pun oops.
@@moowaffels I feel like the mistake to actually spell the pun word properly just improves the charm of this comment, and may have even been the secret intent all along.
🤔
I almost spit my food from the comment just on the rem step
@@moowaffels hahahahahaha you got everything right except the entire point for making the comment :p
This accurately sums up the struggle with playing MTG and Yugioh with newer or inexperienced players
For real. I had to make a painfully bad deck to be able to play properly with a new player without ending the game very fast. I didn’t want them to be discouraged so we’ve been gradually playing better decks as they get more accustomed to the game
A result of the games being out for so long is that the skill ceiling is just so much higher than the floor now. The rules themselves don’t take too long to pick up, it’s just that modern cards are notably more advanced than the cards you would give to a new player for practice / learning.
@@DanielSmith-sf5om I recently got dragged into the game by friends again and the Commander format has been a lot less crazy for me, especially if play with a few people in the same game to constantly snipe the most dangerous seeming person at any given moment :D
@@DanielSmith-sf5om I have a set of starter decks set aside to teach new players. I've found it helps to give them a basic deck and work up from there.
ahh another fan of Simic Flash I see 😂
"Pretend I didn't do that" is said not enough times. Still frickin' hilarious and relatable
I love how these cow cards are getting more detailed with each installment.
The idea of an interrupt window when your opponent concedes is brilliant
It would actually matter in more than 2 player games too since conceding is an instantaneous effect which removes all cards that you own from the game, which could mess with other players that may have taken control of your cards somehow
So uhhhh, funny story about that. There has been a series of no banlist Yu-Gi-Oh OCG (Original Card Game) tournaments. The OCG and TCG (Trading Card Game) have different rulesets, banlists (not relevant here because these tournaments had no banlists), and card pools. A couple of tournaments in, someone noticed an important rules difference between the OCG and the TCG: In the TCG a player can unilaterally concede and end the game instantly in a loss. In the OCG, a player can only concede if their opponent accepts the concession. Setting aside the possibility of hostage taking, this is relevant because of a little card called "Victory Dragon", an understatted, very difficult to summon, basically vanilla fusion monster that reads "If Victory Dragon attacks and reduces the opponent's life points to 0, the controlling player wins 2 games instead of 1". This card is unplayable garbage in the TCG because the opponent can just concede the moment it becomes clear Victory Dragon is going to take the game, meaning they only lose 1 game instead of 2 and the opponent just wasted a bunch of resources on what is basically a fancy Blue Eyes White Dragon. It's also very banned in both the OCG and the TCG because the devs realized that cards that have effects outside of the game they're played in are terrible design and should never see the light of day. Unfortunately for the TOs of this particular series of tournaments however, no banlist means no banlist, so Victory Dragon was very much on the menu, ripe for exploitation. Making Victory Dragon even stronger is the fact that, as I'm sure you can imagine, the power level of this no banlist meta was exceedingly high, meaning there were plenty of games where one player was just completely locked out of the game in the first turn or two with little to no chance of a comeback. Because of this, the winning player has all day(aka a turn or two, given the speed of this meta) to setup the Victory Dragon and clinch the entire set off a single game.
And that's why nobody designs cards like this for serious competitive play anymore.
Reminds me of Pursuit in Pokemon
@@webbowser8834 "Setting aside possibilities for hostage taking" 😂
@@anxiousearth680 That's actually a real card game term, mostly used for online games when "infinite turn" bugs crop up, allowing one player to keep their turn forever without actually winning the game or giving their opponent the opportunity to win/play. It's exceedingly rare for the term to also preclude the opponent from conceding though.
The 'What is a Flash Window' card made me laugh so hard I nearly choked! Bravo!
if SungWon makes this (if he hasn't already), he has to make cards like that
I've been saying this for years, PLEASE MAKE THIS A KICKSTARTER PROJECT, I would definitely buy this
The freaking King Dragon card, that's amazing.
At this point, I'm convinced he just wants us to make an actual cow game for him.
I'd play 🤔
I think he's already made it for us...
I think Sungwon just likes designing these cards. I don't blame him.
he's making millions on the baby punchable cow chlidren's backpacks
@@justanobody0I bought 7.
This is why when I'm teaching a new player how to play, we play with all normally hidden information open, and just run through it until the new player has a basic grasp of the rules.
Then we play for real, though still with some degree of slowness to explain anything they don't understand.
This was basically my experience when, as a pokemon tcg player, I played a game of mtg for the first time and didnt know I could activate cards on the other persons turn, that is until they activated a card during my turn xD fun times
I can’t get over “third times the farm” it’s just too hilarious
Okay, the "'What is a flash window?' 'A mooserable little pile of secrets'" part got me good
what's that a reference to? can't quite remember
@@hellopeoples8 it's a line from a castlevania game, "what is a man but a miserable pile of secrets?" That qoute came out of left field and hit me straight in the gut lol
The first game of Magic I played with anyone (after learning the rules with my friend) my opponent summoned infinite elves by turn 3 or 4. He said he specifically uses that deck on newcomers.
I love how much effort is put into these cards, maybe one day we'll get a full rule set and we can play the cow game at home
I want this as an actual card game that would be sick
Make it happen, Sing Wang!
SungWon would destroy us all, we'd all have to forfeit to save ourselves the embarrassment
@@somerandolad
*Soonge Win
@@justanobody0 literally the only card game I've played is the pokemon tcg so Id absolutely get rekt
This has to become a real game, on kickstarter or something. It'd be incredible
Eventually if we get enough ad skits we can finally make an entire cow deck and maybe someday, know the rules 😂
only SungWon knows the rules
Just needs a stuffed tiger and some Zorro masks.
It's always either that or "Okay, this is a card. It is a rectangular piece of cardboard with various things on it. You hold cards in your hands. This is called your 'hand' because it is in your hand."
I have been occasionally giving you a watch once in a while over the years; this is my first in a while. And I just had to say, your pun game has grown to new heights. I need a foil TTtF for my Magic deck.
Okay but SungWon's characters on cards for a card game is sick
Sungwon is absolutely slowly starting to nail down the rules to this game
Just like Yugioh
Instead of teaching him, he's passive-aggressively destroying him per turn.
This perfect parodys and summerises Yugioh Timeing window's and when you can activate quick effects.
Like Fairy Tail snow and the resolution of chains.
I feel like these card game videos are going to actually become a real game one day
They're not?
I thought it was 🤣
ProZD absolutely looks forward to get sponsored by card games just to think about more Cow puns
This is what happens when you try playing a game with your parents,and your dad tries to explain to you and your mom what pain he's inflicting on you.
This got suggested to me right after the "why I don't play fighting games" video, which makes complete sense, because CCGs are just fighting games for people with bad reflexes, and CZcams knows I'm over 40
I want this to be a real card game with absolutely no care given to balance or playability
You just gave SungWon the opportunity to play the "I want this to be a real card game with absolutely no care given to balance or playability" card, which means he wins a thousand games in a row
@@justanobody0 well then I play "Moo-ve on over from the winners circle: Ultimate Fortune Reversal Zero to Hero" which says that if I lose exactly one thousand games in a row I retroactively win those games or a large pizza if it's Thursday
@@M_Alexander well since it's Thursday, SungWon would gladly let you have a pizza as long as he maintains his undefeated record
Call it laughing cows or mad cow deceased
I like how the card game producer is using his friends to test all his ideas and proceeds loosing them one by one
I need a full lore breakdown of every game SungWon has created.
Your stuff is incredible! Please never stop making videos. They are the perfect starters to my day.
Some madman is going to decode all this into an actual working card game.
The flash step thing is so accurate.
Me when I learned MtG, and my friends went over all the phases with me, only to hit me with "Oh yeah you can also just play counter cards after someone finishes a phase but before their next one starts" and absolutely demolished me xD
"I still have more card to play!" you've just activated my bovine bust card.
That game ended so fast that we didn't even get to the Cheese Tasting Phase™(pending).
A mooserable little pile of secrets was he funniest thing I've seen in a while
"What is a flash phase? A moosable little pile of secrets!"
Amazing.
"What is a flash window? A mooserable little pile of secrets." That sent me
This is actually what it feels like explaining the damage step, missing the timing and summon windows in yugioh.
I had this happen when I tried to get back into MTG. I had a budget rwu weenies/aura deck and the guy used a tournament ready charbelcher deck for a “friendly match to get back into it”. On turn 2 or 3 he dropped some cards, started looking through his deck and after about 1 minute of wordlessly sorting through his deck, removing cards, putting others on top, etc he looked up and went “oh, you lost btw” and went back to looking through the deck.
im convinced this is just a cow archetype out of an entire card game that he just makes all his friends play
"A mooserable little pile of secrets" is how I feel about all collectible cars games.
One day ProZD is using a PSP as a phone, the next he's getting professional VA roles for games and cameo cards. He's come so far...from yesterday.
The ending hit me hard. When I'm losing hard at a video game and instead of just ending the enemy team just kills me over and over "I STILL GOT MORE KILLS TO DO."
Very accurate. I’ve tried a few different ones online and as soon as you’re out of the tutorial period every player seems to use about 100 cards a second and they all flash up and away so fast you have no idea what they actually did, just that you have no life points left.
I love how a card was specifically created to crush beginners when they ask questions?
I had trouble explaining the standby phase in yugioh untill I started naming it "shennanigans phase"
"It's the shennanigans phase, do you have any shennanigans to activate?"
"Oh yeah, I have that trap card I set, I'm gonna use it now"
I love that. Might need to use it as well.
I know this is unrelated but WELL DONE on your performance for Lackadaisy! What a Pilot that was!!! Amazing!
Some players are the seasoned chaos of the Law.
It's literally how I feel when trying to learn any fighting game
"Third time's the farm" broke me
As a Yugioh fans, this is true. Not because of all the summoning mechanics or 100+ words for card effects but rather all the rulings regarding Problem Solving Card Text (PSCT), Damage Step Rulings, Missing the Timing, Spell Speeds, Simultaneous Effects, Chain Blocking, Priority, etc. It's all very convulated and most of it doesn't make the game more fun as it does just make it orderly.
He was the squirrel in God of War Rangnarok. Amazing voice 👏
"What is a flash window? A moo-serable little pile of secrets" Why was this joke so good
Cow-ering about the puns that are over the moon
You nailed your role as Mordecai. NAILED.
"What is a man?? A miserable little pile of Secrets!"
omfg, dude, you have to make thisna real card game
For a gag, the cards look pretty well designed tbh
This game literally has physics it's so good.
"A mooserable pile of secrets!"
Oh that takes me back... Games were so fucking unbelievably GOOD!
Just from the title i immediately knew this is sponsored
"Third Time's the Farm" Got to be one of the greatest card names period
Damn those fully illustrated official cards featuring your characters are super neat! Congrats!
I had to stop the video because of how hard I was laughing at the “Mooserable little pile of secrets”, it caught me off guard
All these are incredibly accurate of a game I started playing less than a year ago, even the phases, oh my god, are all playing the cow game without knowing!?
as a casual tcg player this is exactly what it is like to play against people at card shops who get way too into the game. also a contributing factor to me quitting tcgs (that and wotc gross treatment of their consumers) but these are my favorite bits, wish i could super like them.
I hear you there. I used to play Yugioh casually with my friends. So casually in fact we had just not used the link summon mechanic and all the stuff it came with, because we just didn't like it. When I moved away and couldn't play with them anymore I just couldn't enjoy playing anymore. The game got way too fast for my liking and Magic was too expensive.
@@Ryujishida The main reason I quit is that it's so hard to get an even match even in casual settings. I was using a somewhat pure dinowrestler deck. The people that play meta will ofc kick my shins in. Yet before I made that deck, another dude who used to play tournaments back in the day couldn't win against me because his deck was super old. What did I win with? Freaking JURRACS of all things.
Made me feel like the cards people have matter more then skill at the game. I dislike the duel being won before it even starts, so maybe card games aren't for me.
I think that like button just got THE POINT