Meteor 650 Shocking truth

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  • @MotoNatureLove
    @MotoNatureLove Před 4 měsíci +3

    Hallo zusammen und liebe Grüße aus dem Norden Deutschlands. Ich bin auch ein Meteor Fahrer seit diesem Jahr und dachte nachdem ich mein Naked Bike verkauft habe, etwas gemütlicheres für lange Landstraßenetappen zu haben, leider Fehlanzeige. Mir ist die Federung definitiv zu hart für ein Cruiser Bike, es bügelt mir zuwenig Unebenheiten aus dem Asphalt und die harten Schläge und das vom Bike katapultiert werden, ist nicht sehr toll. Mit meinen 80 kg denke ich, bin ich auch mit der Einstellung 3 in Ordnung. Werde es wie alle auch verauchen und den Luftdruck werde ich auch absenken. Einige Reifen haben eine weichere Schale, werde danach wieder die Michelin aufziehen, die auch bei meiner Suzuki GSX-S 750 viel zur ruhigeren Fahrt beigetragen haben. Vielen Dank für den Kontent und deine Videos, machen viel Freude und sind sehr hilfreich. LG aus Norddeutschland

    • @Teacher-T-Thailand
      @Teacher-T-Thailand  Před 4 měsíci

      I am glad you agree with me. In 2 weeks time I will make a video of after market shocks. I do hope they are an improvement. Stay tuned 🙏

  • @seanmack4552
    @seanmack4552 Před 6 měsíci +5

    I dropped a vid in on another vid of yours, it explains preload so well…..worth watching

  • @HunterVlog350cc
    @HunterVlog350cc Před 6 měsíci +4

    taking your example i did the same on hunter by putting 2 points and i am surprised as how good the ride has become😊😊😊

    • @Teacher-T-Thailand
      @Teacher-T-Thailand  Před 6 měsíci

      Glad it worked for you. I had my first ride on a Hunter the other day. Light and easy. Enjoy 🙏

  • @camflyfilmsltd2490
    @camflyfilmsltd2490 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I agree on the 3rd Click adjustment. I think RE never made that clear in the manual (Or I missed it) and the result was really disappointing.) Actually people were thinking that the suspension was too hard when it was just the opposite. I finally replaced my shocks with Hagon ones and the result is very satisfying out of the box (But close to the 3rd Click adjustment). I also had a 15mm gel pad and I can spend the whole day on saddle without suffering any pain.

    • @Teacher-T-Thailand
      @Teacher-T-Thailand  Před 3 měsíci

      Thanks. I’m looking forward to fitting Hagon shocks very soon, I do hope there is an improvement 🙏

  • @genegoodwin8925
    @genegoodwin8925 Před 4 měsíci +3

    I do not own a Super Meteor 650 YET. I hope to buy one in the future. I usually run 28psi in my tires to give a smoother ride. Most bikes require 32psi, but I don't like the harsh ride. Anything lower than 28psi and the tires do not wear very well. At 28 psi I usually have a wide patch on the road and have a good wear pattern.

    • @Teacher-T-Thailand
      @Teacher-T-Thailand  Před 4 měsíci +1

      I think Royal Enfield put different brands of tyres on depending on what country the bike is assembled in. I have Ceeta tyres fitted, and I think my bike was assembled in Thailand. If I go too low, you can feel the bike not handling well. RE state on the bike 41 on the front and 38 on the rear. I go about 2 under on each. Thailand heat also means I have to check pressures often. About once a week. 🙏

  • @thedeanalex
    @thedeanalex Před 3 měsíci +1

    Love you man! I've had this rear suspension problem since I bought the damn thing! Changing the preload along with purchasing a foam overseat for the driver's seat made a world of difference!

  • @user-cc4pr8wc4w
    @user-cc4pr8wc4w Před 6 měsíci +3

    Hi Teach, done the same on the smaller brother, works for me. I test rode the 650 an was a little disappointed due to the rear suspension and the bad steering lock, I think if they had gone with the conventional front forks it would have had a better lock. Hope you’re happy with the fuel economy 🤭compared to its little brother. 👍😎

    • @Teacher-T-Thailand
      @Teacher-T-Thailand  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Ha ha. The fuel economy is slowly improving now the bike is running in. And hopefully a new drive belt soon, which will lower the revs and improve the economy. I hope 😂🙏

  • @felixVanDiemen
    @felixVanDiemen Před 6 měsíci +4

    Hi mate. I got the dealer to fit the YSS rear shocks before I picked up my Super Meteor and I've had no problem with bottoming out, and I'm 110 kg. I can't really compare to stock, but I just thought I'd give you my perspective 🙂 It's a fabulous motorcycle isn't it 😎

    • @Teacher-T-Thailand
      @Teacher-T-Thailand  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Glad to hear. I will get some when funds allow me. Yes it’s a lot of bike for the money. Enjoy 🙏

  • @daviddraper6240
    @daviddraper6240 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Excellent video..Thank you for posting. I’ve moved the adjustment to the second setting but am going to go to the third. I ride only on hard surfaces. Lots of potholes though..I’m also thinking of getting the touring seat… Be safe…Peace…

    • @Teacher-T-Thailand
      @Teacher-T-Thailand  Před 5 měsíci

      I rode on setting 3 for a couple months. Now back to setting 2. The springs seem to have softened being compressed over time on setting 3. The rear shocks now behaving much better. Let me know how you get on with the seat. I’’m thinking of getting one also, just to swap to on the odd occasion the wife will go with me 😂🙏

  • @bali1538
    @bali1538 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I was facing constant discomfort and lower back pain on my 1999 Enfield Machismo 350 (rear shocks were oil filled ones) as all the jerks were felt in my spine i changed the rear shocks from stock to nitrox filled with longer travel. Never faced the problem again. Happily using them from more than 10 years .If i buy super meteor in the future that would be my first modification.

  • @JW-ym5yb
    @JW-ym5yb Před 6 měsíci +2

    Just thought I would say that what you did was the start of “setting suspension sag”. There’s many videos out there on it but it involves you sitting on the bike in the clothing you would normally wear with the bike up right. It helps if you have someone else there. You first measure from a point on the fender to a point on the ground with you not on the bike. Then you het on the bike and with all your weight on it a measurement is taken in the same place again. That is the “sag”. You want as a guide a US 1.5 inch. Since you have already found a “happy place” in the suspension all is good. I would suggest to anyone, regardless of bike, if they’re unhappy with the suspension is to go to the middle position just as you did then work from there. This is often what you need to do when you don’t have a willing helper to aid with setting sag. Can save the cost of new suspension. Enjoy your channel BTW.

    • @Teacher-T-Thailand
      @Teacher-T-Thailand  Před 6 měsíci +1

      If the roads were better here, there would be no reason for me to change them. To be honest I can’t really afford to, after spending a year’s salary on the bike. It’s just goes against the grain to remove something I have paid for and is new. But just about every review I have watched on the SM650 states the hard rear suspension. I just hope the YSS live up to their reputation.

    • @JW-ym5yb
      @JW-ym5yb Před 6 měsíci

      @@Teacher-T-Thailand It will be interesting to see how they compare to stock. Looks like they have a great deal of adjustability.

  • @StevieJ1403
    @StevieJ1403 Před měsícem +1

    Had my first ride out on my SM650 today after eagerly awaiting delivery. Put the preload to 3 as suggested but my god it was painful after a few miles of Scottish Border’s roads. That, plus the numbness from the hard seat, took the shine off the first ride. Disappointed to be honest. My Conti GT felt amazing from the get go but now more ££ needed for replacement shocks.
    Some have said to leave it for a couple of thousand km to break in, but I’ll be ruined by 300 miles….

    • @Teacher-T-Thailand
      @Teacher-T-Thailand  Před měsícem

      It’s the most disappointing thing with the bike sadly. The main reason owners sell after a brief period of ownership. If you are under 100kg, then maybe try preload 2. I waited 6 months until I changed to after market shocks. Then I wished I had changed them sooner. YSS or Hagons are recommended. Here is a link to a video of mine. czcams.com/video/1h1J09k1xww/video.htmlsi=QT_l0G_wEsZYx8tn. I also made a video on how to soften your seat, czcams.com/video/afmk5rYm3R8/video.htmlsi=twB-r_gflyVLI5oR but you have to be brave to do this to a brand new bike. But it works very well. Hang in there. Do these mods. Before anything else. Noisy exhausts can wait 😂🙏

  • @johnludmon510
    @johnludmon510 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Royal Enfield shocks do improve with riding my meteor 350 shocks needed the preload set higher as they came on the lowest setting to stop them bottoming out. Then after about 1500 miles the damping became softer and more comfortable. Dropping the tyre pressures by that amount will affect the handling and the comfort not necessarily for the better it could cause the tyre to overheat as well .

    • @Teacher-T-Thailand
      @Teacher-T-Thailand  Před 6 měsíci

      I’m 5,000Km now. They certainly got softer, hence I’m increasing the preload well above what they recommend in the manual. 41psi is excessive. I’ve never put more than 36psi in any bike I’ve owned over the years. I will keep adjusting until I can afford to swap out the shocks to better quality 🙏

  • @BobfmBali
    @BobfmBali Před 6 měsíci +2

    Just to clarify, you had your resculptured seat on when you tried the new settings. Hope you've added the link 👍. Thanks for sharing 🙏

    • @Teacher-T-Thailand
      @Teacher-T-Thailand  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Thanks Bob. Yes my modified seat is still healthy lol. I’m just short of targets for views on CZcams before I can open a shop with my own links. So it will be easier and more reliable then. Did you manage to send me a private message? I hope you can. 🙏

    • @BobfmBali
      @BobfmBali Před 6 měsíci

      @@Teacher-T-Thailand Can't find how to send you a private message?By the way what is your name?

  • @raypayne1979
    @raypayne1979 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I adjusted mine last may 2023 to no4. Suits me, Front tyre 40, tear 36 seems OK. Firstly I lowered pressure then realised I had to stiffen shocks.

    • @Teacher-T-Thailand
      @Teacher-T-Thailand  Před 6 měsíci

      Glad you got the bike sorted for yourself. I’m still struggling with mine on these Thai roads. 🙏

  • @christopherheritage5651
    @christopherheritage5651 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I nearly popped a disc on setting 1 it was that hard. Im now on setting 5 and rides lovely.

    • @Teacher-T-Thailand
      @Teacher-T-Thailand  Před 4 měsíci

      I find it really strange they all come out the show room on setting 1, when that is not the average users need.

  • @atulbajpai9875
    @atulbajpai9875 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Good analysis sir

  • @ruahinesrider
    @ruahinesrider Před 6 měsíci +2

    The seat should brake in after 300km.The RE bikes shocks are soft & bottom out & you need to add preload.

    • @Teacher-T-Thailand
      @Teacher-T-Thailand  Před 6 měsíci +1

      I did 1600km in 2 days. It never softened up. YT it has now after I cut it 😂

    • @ruahinesrider
      @ruahinesrider Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@Teacher-T-Thailand Seats are a fine art to get right.A 90kg person the seat might be alright but 80kg person the seat might be to firm.I replaced my seat on my Interceptor fairly quickly.
      I know a guy 92kg with Super Meteor who hated the seat but after 4-500km HE actually liked it.
      Everybody's arse is different & can be a fine art to get right.

  • @joshuathomas8529
    @joshuathomas8529 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I am totally going to try the three notches' thanks for the video.

    • @Teacher-T-Thailand
      @Teacher-T-Thailand  Před 6 měsíci

      You are welcome. It doesn't make any sense, but it does work 🙏

  • @TheFatalintention
    @TheFatalintention Před 6 měsíci +1

    same problem wiht the rear suspension, but is worst for your copilot the 3 ppl I had as passengers hated the motorcycle because of that, planing to import those YSS 340mm, but will wait for your review.

    • @Teacher-T-Thailand
      @Teacher-T-Thailand  Před 6 měsíci +2

      Thanks for following. The rear seat looks cool, but hardly any comfort for the pillion. I expect to have the YSS video done in the next 2 weeks. Fingers crossed for good results.

  • @joelalvares8351
    @joelalvares8351 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Yeah, 41 on front just seems wrong. I asked RE and they too are not sure. I am running 36 front and 40 rear (as recommended for my HD Street bob).... I have the same exp at high speeds, the extra bounce u get on uneven tarmac does not instill any confidence post 130 kmph...
    Thanks for the tips....🤟

    • @Teacher-T-Thailand
      @Teacher-T-Thailand  Před 5 měsíci +1

      I think different countries fit different brand of tyres, so psi will alter. My tyres are 'Ceeta', and stamped on my rear swing arm is front 41 psi, rear 36 psi. Thanks for watching ,🙏

  • @nicholaspratt7934
    @nicholaspratt7934 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I don't wonder you had a hard ride, My manual and swing arm like yours shows 36psi for solo riding.
    I am heavier at 100kg in riding gear so have set my rear shock on position 4 and change to position 5 + 41psi in rear tyre when adding a pillion and am happier with that.
    The sag for that was worked out by putting a small cable tie on the shock rod until I was not getting within a bit of bottoming out on my bumpy test route.

    • @Teacher-T-Thailand
      @Teacher-T-Thailand  Před 5 měsíci

      Yep I learned a heavy lesson, hence making the video to warn others. Setting 2 should be minimum from showroom delivery. 🙏

  • @leswatson8563
    @leswatson8563 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Hi. I bought my RE 650 Super Meteor last year. Within 500 miles i went up two notches on my rear suspension. Im 5ft 9" at 86 kilos and often ride two up. Where did you get 41psi tyre pressure from? I downloaded the manual and mine says... 32psi front & rear. By two up or loaded 36psi. I run 34 front and 38psi rear and by myself, or two up, ive had no handling problems at all. Not even on our crappy British roads. Safe cruising dude 👍.

    • @Teacher-T-Thailand
      @Teacher-T-Thailand  Před 5 měsíci

      The tyre pressures are printed on the label of my swing arm. But maybe they fit better tyres on British models? 41 front and 36 rear. My perfect is 40 front and 34 rear

    • @SydMaven
      @SydMaven Před 3 měsíci +1

      I've just downloaded the manual for UK users. Tyre pressures 41 and 36.

    • @Teacher-T-Thailand
      @Teacher-T-Thailand  Před 3 měsíci

      @@SydMaven Yep. Same as what is printed on the swing arm label. Seems excessive though, especially on a bike with bad rear suspension. 🙏

  • @dominique8503
    @dominique8503 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Hi, I live in Udon Thani and bought the same bike.I had installed shock absorbers YSS on my bike today. I paid 10700 Baths. I think so 41 psi is too much now I have 36 psi front and rear wheels. My motorbike has 5000km, I don't like the tires I would like to install Michelin commander 3.

    • @Teacher-T-Thailand
      @Teacher-T-Thailand  Před 6 měsíci +2

      It’s a great bike, just let down by the rear suspension. Please let me know the results so your YSS 🙏

  • @krishnamahatre8605
    @krishnamahatre8605 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Have you considered using an air cushion, they do help in cutting down on transmission of jerks and vibrations to the buttocks and the spine to a great extent.

    • @Teacher-T-Thailand
      @Teacher-T-Thailand  Před 6 měsíci

      No I haven’t. If the YSS shocks don’t cure it, I will certainly try 🙏

  • @zander1960
    @zander1960 Před 4 měsíci +1

    36 psi front and rear, level 3 suspension.

    • @Teacher-T-Thailand
      @Teacher-T-Thailand  Před 4 měsíci

      Can you tell me which country and which brand of tyres you have please? 🙏

  • @damianuday
    @damianuday Před 6 měsíci +1

    Nice informative vlogs mate thx 🙏 about the seat, try the touring seat provided by Royal Enfield it helped a lot on my rides 👍

    • @Teacher-T-Thailand
      @Teacher-T-Thailand  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Thanks. I really don't like the look of the touring seat, but maybe I should get one for when I know I will do long journeys 🙏

  • @vulcan3198
    @vulcan3198 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Nice hack, teach! Liked, commented & subscribed. Waiting for ur next reviews

  • @sidd2210
    @sidd2210 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Change the suspension with thunderbird 500 and you are sorted!

    • @Teacher-T-Thailand
      @Teacher-T-Thailand  Před 6 měsíci

      Can you give more details please? Country of origin? Where to get?

  • @RoshanMachayya
    @RoshanMachayya Před 6 měsíci +2

    I get thrown on my sm650 quite often and I weigh around 63-64 kilos.

    • @Teacher-T-Thailand
      @Teacher-T-Thailand  Před 6 měsíci

      Yep the rear shocks are truly shocking. But ratchet them up a couple notches and try 👌

    • @RoshanMachayya
      @RoshanMachayya Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@Teacher-T-Thailand yes, I'll do that soon. At the moment it is at the default setting. I took the SM650 off roading twice across some decent trails and climbs. Of course I got stuck and dropped the bike. But the stiff suspension means that the bike oddly slides under you sideways under trail conditions. Tyres definitely play a role here too but I feel there is such a big role for suspension here.

    • @Teacher-T-Thailand
      @Teacher-T-Thailand  Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@RoshanMachayya Also tyre pressures. On my previous off road bikes, I would always lower pressures for more grip on trails 🙏

    • @RoshanMachayya
      @RoshanMachayya Před 6 měsíci

      @@Teacher-T-Thailand oh yes of course. The last time I went off road, I lowered the tyre pressure for both my tyres by 5 psi. I don't know if that was optimal or not enough, but it did make a positive difference. Of course, things could have been better. I suppose with tyres that are better biased to accommodate off road conditions one would have a better experience with the SM650.

  • @user-sx7tb4vu9e
    @user-sx7tb4vu9e Před 4 měsíci +1

    i saw your video on Meteor 650 shocking truth. the tyre pressure for the Meteor 650 41 front 36 on the rear as per manual

    • @Teacher-T-Thailand
      @Teacher-T-Thailand  Před 4 měsíci

      Correct sir. But just about every other motor bike I’ve ever owned has been 32 on the front and 34 on the rear. 41 seems excessive. I’m currently running in 38 front and 34 rear. It has softened the ride slightly for me 🙏

  • @keithkeitht5873
    @keithkeitht5873 Před 2 měsíci +1

    It's not a big deal. Just change your shocks. Yss work just fine!

    • @Teacher-T-Thailand
      @Teacher-T-Thailand  Před 2 měsíci +1

      To me it was a big deal. Spending money I didn’t have, just to have a comfortable ride. And no use for the old shocks. What a waste of money, and impact on the environment. Royal Enfield should at least offer an option on rear shocks, just like they do on seats and handle bars.

  • @user-sx7tb4vu9e
    @user-sx7tb4vu9e Před 4 měsíci +1

    i run those numbers on my bike and have no probs

    • @Teacher-T-Thailand
      @Teacher-T-Thailand  Před 4 měsíci

      It’s just over 80km/h when I hit a bump I experience problems. Sadly

  • @kevindarkstar
    @kevindarkstar Před 6 měsíci +2

    As has been mentioned this is the suspension 'sag' or how much it drops from at rest to you and normal gear sat on the bike 😊

    • @Teacher-T-Thailand
      @Teacher-T-Thailand  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Indeed. But the manual is very wrong stating setting 1 is ok fir riders up to 90Kg. 🙏

    • @kevindarkstar
      @kevindarkstar Před 6 měsíci

      @@Teacher-T-Thailand agreed, some times you just have to wing it 😉

  • @michaelreid2329
    @michaelreid2329 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Very interesting thanks. What do you think would be the length limitation with an aftermarket (YSS) adjustable suspension units?

    • @Teacher-T-Thailand
      @Teacher-T-Thailand  Před 5 měsíci +1

      I've totally gone off YSS at the moment. My local sales shop says not available for Meteor 650 (when I know they are) and 3 emails to the Company direct totally ignored. I return to UK next week to visit family. There may be a pair of Hitchcock's lowering shocks in my suitcase on the way home 🙏

  • @Pipes61874
    @Pipes61874 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Expensive bikes come with crap suspension also .

  • @cruiserjohn3790
    @cruiserjohn3790 Před 6 měsíci +1

    So these rear suspension needs to be changed/swapped out for new ones if you are more then 80kg.

    • @Teacher-T-Thailand
      @Teacher-T-Thailand  Před 6 měsíci

      No. I’m not saying that. But if you are more than 80kg you certainly need to play with and adjust the preload. Then it all depends on your roads, if you are in Europe or America with good roads, these shocks will be fine. But if on rough un predictable roads as we have in Asia, then swapping them out for better quality is probably a wise choice.

  • @chrisblenkinsopp8588
    @chrisblenkinsopp8588 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Can you describe what you did with your seat? The cutting thing...?

    • @Teacher-T-Thailand
      @Teacher-T-Thailand  Před 6 měsíci

      Sure. I’ve already uploaded a video called Soften your seat. czcams.com/video/afmk5rYm3R8/video.htmlsi=q72BTAhsFCE0ZDQJ

  • @Scruffybirdd
    @Scruffybirdd Před 4 měsíci

    Can you out the interceptor rear suspension on super meteor?

  • @yuvarajgsraj5847
    @yuvarajgsraj5847 Před 6 měsíci

    Is it ok to replace it with interceptor rear shox

  • @jimmydickson8854
    @jimmydickson8854 Před 27 dny +1

    Trade it in for the 450 himalayan I think this is a horrible bike

    • @Teacher-T-Thailand
      @Teacher-T-Thailand  Před 26 dny

      555 I can’t even get the Him 450 off the side stand. Far too tall and top heavy for me. 😂🙏

  • @GapBahnDirk
    @GapBahnDirk Před 6 měsíci +1

    40+ psi does sound a bit high. I have my Interceptor tyres at the recommended 32/36psi or 32/39 with a pillion and they are plenty hard enough. Empirically you seem to have found shock setting for you. Stupid dogs 🤣🤣😂😂

    • @Teacher-T-Thailand
      @Teacher-T-Thailand  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Yes my dogs are crazy lol. What type of fuel economy are you getting for your Interceptor if you don’t mind me asking? Had a ride with a guy last week who claimed 38 km/l. I’m only getting 26km/l on this bike. 🙏😂

    • @GapBahnDirk
      @GapBahnDirk Před 6 měsíci +1

      I have averaged 4.1 L/100kms (69 UK MPG) for my city bike and 3.54L/100kms (80 UK MPG) for my country bike.@@Teacher-T-Thailand

    • @Teacher-T-Thailand
      @Teacher-T-Thailand  Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@GapBahnDirk That’s around 25km/l so I think the guy I was speaking to on the weekend was having me on 😂🙏

    • @GapBahnDirk
      @GapBahnDirk Před 6 měsíci

      Most people are full of it, of course😁. Just ask someone how long it took them to drive somewhere.....@@Teacher-T-Thailand

  • @winksplayle
    @winksplayle Před 6 měsíci +5

    Cheap bikes, come with cheap components.

    • @Teacher-T-Thailand
      @Teacher-T-Thailand  Před 6 měsíci +8

      It’s a good value bike, so money to manoeuvre I suppose on replacing them 🙏😀

    • @wolfgangnapiletzki8480
      @wolfgangnapiletzki8480 Před 4 měsíci +4

      Even expensive suspension components, like Öhlins, White Power or Wilbers, have to be adjusted in the correct way.
      Without doing this, there is no advantage.

    • @shubhamgupta-pq2me
      @shubhamgupta-pq2me Před 3 měsíci

      Then why are you even here between cheap people you should go sell your body parts to get HD and other brand bikes.😂😂😂