great concept. Love the method of coaching. Applying the science deepens the understanding. I understand the concepts and application, I lectured in engineering at one point of my career. The original lead quantity, is what I do not understand. I was looking for a formula to calculate the lead. It appears that the 2 foot lead, was 'plucked' from the air as a guesimation and the adjustment applied from that as a starting point. Speed, velocities, distance and time are measurable. Applications of angles maybe applied through calculus. I wondered if there is a starting formula for say a clay 40m away. So, if 5 = max speed (60mph) amd stationary =0, there are 4 other variables from 20mph through to 50 mph, marked as 2,3,and 4. OK this 'concept' is to help the student learn the adjustments related to distance and speed, with application of angle. It is not a 'true' formula - got it !!! Thanks !!
Lance Jones, I believe that the original lead of 2 feet ( x if you like ) was what the student experienced on the skeet field just prior to this video, once he had that value even though it was relative to the way he saw the lead, he could work out the lead on other targets.
The lead depends also of the gun speed, which varies with the shooter. Even more, it depends also on how fast the trigger is. Nevertheless, for station 4, 4 feet will do it in sustained lead method.
It is using skeet Station 4 as a benchmark, to estimate lead on various crossing targets in sporting, fitasc, compak etc. If you compare the target in front of you, to skeet Station 4. e.g. a 40 yard crosser, travelling a bit faster than a skeet target, might need almost twice as much lead as what you give Station 4 skeet. It's just giving you a rough idea to think how much lead, a given target might need.
One thumbs down poster clearly but hasn't got the balls to reason why in the comments. Personally it's a thanks from me and please keep up the great videos Ben 👍
You always continue to move the gun after pulling the trigger. The same as throwing a dart, hitting a tennis ball etc = Follow through. Hold point, pick up, kill zone, follow through. Check out Ed Scherer skeet. Detailed explanation with diagrams. He died in 95.
Ben can you please clarify how you go from 2 ft lead at 90 to 1/2 at 45 but say 4 ft which is actually 2x lead ? I may have heard you incorrectly but if you can clarify great
What???? I didn't understand any of that, but this is a perfect flight bird. The club I go to , the birds are all over the place, upto last week I was doing well. But last 2 shoots, disastrous..
Really enjoying your series of videos.
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Wow, makes it so simple when explained
Great content really appreciate it 👍🏼
you do break things down nicely in your videos...no pun intended.
Rubbish - you absolutely intended that pun and it was all the better for this
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great concept. Love the method of coaching. Applying the science deepens the understanding. I understand the concepts and application, I lectured in engineering at one point of my career. The original lead quantity, is what I do not understand. I was looking for a formula to calculate the lead. It appears that the 2 foot lead, was 'plucked' from the air as a guesimation and the adjustment applied from that as a starting point. Speed, velocities, distance and time are measurable. Applications of angles maybe applied through calculus. I wondered if there is a starting formula for say a clay 40m away. So, if 5 = max speed (60mph) amd stationary =0, there are 4 other variables from 20mph through to 50 mph, marked as 2,3,and 4. OK this 'concept' is to help the student learn the adjustments related to distance and speed, with application of angle. It is not a 'true' formula - got it !!! Thanks !!
Lance Jones, I believe that the original lead of 2 feet ( x if you like ) was what the student experienced on the skeet field just prior to this video, once he had that value even though it was relative to the way he saw the lead, he could work out the lead on other targets.
Ben when you say the lead is 18 inches on station 4 is that relative to the barrel or the clay? When I shot skeet the lead was 4 feet.
The lead depends also of the gun speed, which varies with the shooter. Even more, it depends also on how fast the trigger is. Nevertheless, for station 4, 4 feet will do it in sustained lead method.
I cant work this out at all, watched it a few times now and still cant fathom the formula. Someone please HELP
It is using skeet Station 4 as a benchmark, to estimate lead on various crossing targets in sporting, fitasc, compak etc. If you compare the target in front of you, to skeet Station 4. e.g. a 40 yard crosser, travelling a bit faster than a skeet target, might need almost twice as much lead as what you give Station 4 skeet. It's just giving you a rough idea to think how much lead, a given target might need.
One thumbs down poster clearly but hasn't got the balls to reason why in the comments. Personally it's a thanks from me and please keep up the great videos Ben 👍
Great vid Ben. Do you have this as doc or pdf to download method at all.
Guys I'm shooting with are saying 4' but I'm having hard time judging 4' from beed to clay or I'm stopping idk cause looks like 4' and don't touch it
You always continue to move the gun after pulling the trigger. The same as throwing a dart, hitting a tennis ball etc = Follow through. Hold point, pick up, kill zone, follow through. Check out Ed Scherer skeet. Detailed explanation with diagrams. He died in 95.
Ben can you please clarify how you go from 2 ft lead at 90 to 1/2 at 45 but say 4 ft which is actually 2x lead ?
I may have heard you incorrectly but if you can clarify great
At 3:15 in, Ben says it's a foot. Then at 3:30 he says 4 feet but that is when the distance to kill point had doubled to 40 yards.
What???? I didn't understand any of that, but this is a perfect flight bird. The club I go to , the birds are all over the place, upto last week I was doing well. But last 2 shoots, disastrous..
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