Red Shuttle - Sending an entire Shuttle stack & Crawler to MARS. KSP RSS/RO
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
- A perfectly reasonable Crewed mission to Mars!
Just something fun for the meantime - sending an entire Shuttle stack and Crawler with crew to Mars! Credit to Scorpu for the idea ;)
Still working on bigger videos like one about Skylon, and then a very long, very special video for Crewed Mission to Pluto! Stay tuned.
Mods used:
RSS/RO/RP1: At the time of writing, KSP 1.10. Find the install guide here: github.com/KSP-RO/RP-0/wiki/I...
Other mods featured:
SOCK (Shuttle Orbiter Construction Kit)
ReDirect (External Tank, SRBs)
Real Scale Sea Dragon
Old Unknown Space Shuttle Crawler mod
drive.google.com/file/d/1Gcdy...
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0:00 A normal shuttle launch
0:31 A not-so-normal shuttle launch
2:30 Trans-Mars Injection
4:12 Arrival at Mars
5:46 Landing on Mars
7:50 Crawler operations
9:35 Liftoff from Mars
10:55 Return to Earth
12:30 Aerobraking
14:00 Woomera Approach and Landing
15:30 The End
"Run" by Ross Bugden
• ♩♫ Epic Chase Music ♪♬...
Hellfire by Alexander Nakarada
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Pariah by Scott Buckley - www.scottbuckley.com.au
The Gigantic Epic Day After Tomorrow by Sascha Ende®
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Freedom by Frank Schröter
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Back To The Roots by WinnieTheMoog
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It's really kinda crazy that the same setup that went from Mars' surface all the way back to Earth is the same that only just about gets into LEO
Really puts a perspective to how difficult it actually is to go to LEO IRL
@@itmeducky The saying "Once you're in orbit you're halfway to anywhere" exists for a reason
Yeah, shows just how hard it is to leave Earth and how much harder doing so on a super earth would be
PS, it was probably filled near max payload weight for a leo mission and still got to earth!
just do alt f12 thats it you can leave sagittarius a if you want its the dev console
@@nastykerb34 kinda takes away the fun, thats why td did the actual mission
Although the sideways stage was intended as a kraken-mitigating scheme...it kinda fits the fact that the Shuttle was an asymetrical vehicle.
"kinda" assymetrical, since it depends which side you are looking from.
I guess its fitting that the Shuttle that never flew would be the one to land on Mars
well if it had some bombs it could do something since it's name is Enterprise and anything named Enterprise and is American always does something stupidly effective
Firstly: orbiter
Secondly: it did technically fly, just never in space and on a shuttle mission
for those who didn't understand, the space shuttle in the video is named "enterprise" and wes its from star trek
but this shutle never flew because it was the first created by nasa
@@anekdoche7055 for those who want a better explanation, the orbiter vehicle used in the video named enterprise was used as a test article to make sure the shuttle was able to glide to landing and develop the procedures needed for landing. It never flew to orbit because mainly changes in design. After it was constructed, it was supposed to be modified to be flown to space, but major design changes, which were easily modified on the work-in-progress OV-102 (columbia), were unable to easily be done on OV-101 (enterprise), since it was further along in construction. Budgetary restraints meant that these modifications were not made. Fun fact: it was initially going to be called the Constitution, but Star Trek fans held a petition to change it to the Enterprise after the ship in Star Trek.
After the challenger disaster, Enterprise was offered as a solution to replace the lost orbiter, but it was cheaper to use the spare parts for shuttle, so she never got to fly.
Can we just appreciate how the _RCS_ thrusters on the Crawler are bigger than the RS-25's?
Wonder what fuel they used
@@Electric_Bagpipes Tears of rational people
look about the same as the AJ10s, actually
69 like
@@Spaceguy-nineteensixtynine along with the blood of the engineers that worked on this thing as oxidizer
I love how the landed launch platform casually has RCS ports still attached to it that look like they are literally just additional shuttle main engines strapped on and used as RCS
It's quite surreal seeing the full space shuttle stack take off from Mars
Something FAMK would do
@@LSF17 Even for that show, this is much too crazy
With the MLP too
I'm surprised the launch pad didn't instantly disintegrate.
P.S.: Best Mars rover ever.
indeed
Only in KSP can "All 57 Sea Dragon engines nominal" be spoken and it is kind of expected.
Man, I can’t even imagine how you even came to make this, every single bit of it is so intricate and downright perfect. Really good stuff man!
So cool how in the smaller atmosphere of Mars the SRB plumes over expand so much. I don't care how expensive it was, the shuttle was amazing and I miss it (even if it never did go to Mars atop 57 Sea Dragon engines)
57 Sea dragon engines... this thing in real world would shake the earth
Bake*
@@threestrikesmarxman9095Break*
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@@threestrikesmarxman9095
I am witnessing KSP’s Baroque Period unfold before my eyes.
'You see that launchsite?'
'Yes sir.'
'I don't want to.'
'YES SIR!'
for real tho this is really impressive.
watch as I make this launchpad...dissapere
This is why "it works in kerbal space program" is such a meme lol. the dedication to pull this off tho is impressive
I built a 1:1 scale model of the space shuttle in Minecraft and my god does it put this in perspective, thanks for the vid. :-)
I've seen two of the remaining orbiters in real life, Atlantis and Endeavour. They're currently working on a new building at the California Science Center, where Endeavour is located, to create a new exhibit for Endeavour. The ET-94 is also on exhibit at the California Science Center, and is the only remaining external tank that was flight certified. A specific class of lightweight tanks were designed for science missions, which were not planned to continue after the Columbia disaster. ET-94 was instead tested by NASA to help determine the cause of the disaster, and was eventually given to the science center in 2016.
For the new Endeavour exhibit, two shuttle "srbs," which are really just big tubes of aluminum, are currently at the Mojave Air and Space Port. They are owned by the science center, and will be stacked with Endeavour, along with ET-94 to create a full shuttle stack. I think that'll really put it into perspective. You can also see something similar at Kennedy Space Center's visitor center, where a shuttle external tank and two SRBs area stacked outside the Atlantis exhibit, without a shuttle attached.
I’ve seen an orbiter and built one in Minecraft! Can confirm that despite being pretty horrendous in many regards, the shuttle was a majestic piece of engineering.
It even has a launch abort system
Quick update since I left during the premier: The shuttle mod is from SOCK & ReDirect. The Crawler mod is the ancient one I found on a google drive on the RO server, not sure where it originates.
@@TDChannelKSP Thanks, I thought it looked like Benjee’s orbiter (especially when I compared it to DECQ’s mod), but I forgot that there were RO configs built into RO.
Now when we finally got Space Shuttles into RSS/RO, this is not the use I had intended for them haha
Great video!
"Ah, this very a good use of our budget!" -KSC
What an amazing video! You certainly got a subscriber here. As a shuttle fan, seeing the shots of the shuttle above Mars almost makes me cry
same my brother
In another timeline, maybe shuttles did make it to Mars...
@@theendlessvoid7124 Why did you have to say this ?
Wow. I've never seen such attention to detail. This is next level stuff, subbed right away. Cant imagine the amount of work and time that went into this. Seriously impressed. Jeb actually stalling the shuttle onto the runway was a nice humouristic bonus. :D
hilariously, all that detail is required to make th mission work in RSSRO. You should play it! It's !!fun!!
You made the Space Shuttle Enterprise's dream of going to space come true.
The commitment that went into this crazy mission is insane breath taking!
Really cool vid. Thank for taking the time to put this together. Really gets the wheels turning.
Using something as large as the Enterprise to launch the Enterprise to the Mars. U know which Enterprise I'm talking about. XD
Which letter
@@mariasirona1622 d
Hypothetically, in real life could you take a fully assembled Space Shuttle from the surface of Mars back to Earth?
In theory, with considerable modifications:
- The RS-25s need to be upgraded to be able to light without GSE and light multiple times - definitely possible, just expensive.
- Somehow you have to keep the hydrolox chilled to minimize boiloff over the trip home - I don't believe hydrolox has ever been stored for that long IRL, but technically possible.
- Also need a power source other than the fuel cells, like solar.
- Then there's the question of re-entry - not sure if Shuttle IRL could handle multiple aerobraking passes or not - maybe it could. If the cargo bay was empty, you could probably slow down more.
Other than that though, sure!
@@TDChannelKSP Since the shuttles TPS wasn’t ablative, in theory it could’ve done multiple back to back entries/aero brake passes. Though this would require probably all of the tps to stay intact which the shuttle has a muddy history of, not counting the fact that the LV had sea dragon engines in the double digits.
@@Spaceguy-nineteensixtynine well, the TPS not staying intact was usually related to ice falling off the external tank on launch. Since water vapor basically doesn’t exist on mars, that’s not much of an issue
Not sure how the crawler would stand up to a thumping landing on uneven terrain, especially when fully laden. It strikes me as a vehicle not really intended to ever be airborne ;)
@@worldcomicsreview354 Yeah I think a more... *precise* skycrane landing would be ideal. M-1Us lacking throttling and only 2 ignitions made it tricky - was thinking about replacing with raptors, until... amusingly enough, it worked. So I went with this take.
I love how that entire crawler moves faster than an actual Mars rover
seriously this kind of vids looks so time consuming to do: and this is totally worth it continue like that!
Don't forget the water that keeps the Shuttle from blowing up in the sound suppression system. And the Shuttle can only be in space about 2 weeks before it runs of cabin air so you would some how have to cut 12 months or so off the trip to mars and back. Coming back from Mars, you would need a lot more fuel to slow down. Shuttles heat shield is not moon or Mars rated.
Just a few points:
1: On the sound suppression system - valid point, although this makes me wonder: With the much thinner atmosphere for the sound waves to go through, would it only need a small system? Not like the pad has to be re-used - the shuttle does have to survive though.
2: That would be true, which is why in the cargo bay there's an entirely new habitat and life support system, weighing some 80 tons or so.
3: That's... exactly what I do in the video - the entry speed is well below lunar speeds, it's more like almost GTO speeds, plus multiple passes to limit the load - don't know if real shuttle could take even that, but it's better than direct.
Absolutely awesome to watch. Thank you!
WOW!! Beautiful and amazing. The use of the Shuttle for return from Mars reminds me of the Churchill in LifeForce (1987). Great job!!
i think its funny how the shuttle that he decided to use was Enterprise which has the never flown before haha
This was the most metal thing I've seen in a long ass time ... wow 👏
Great to see the Enterprise! Far better than ending up as a space station.
More than enough to wipe KSC away LOLl
This is a big rocket to launch to Mars and I like how it launches out of Mars back into Earth so it was really cool
And I like the rocket
I liked my own comment because nobody liked my comment
I love the way this launched 🚀🛰🛬
this is the best launch for Mars
Same
your channel is so good i liked and subscribed
I like that one of the main features of the shuttle was reusability, and this completely throws that out the window
The shuttle and its engines are still recovered, all you need is one brand new giant monstrosity rocket!
@@TDChannelKSP based
Need more constant like this
ohno why I hate and love this at the same time, great work again
This is absolutely insane! In a good way!
Always after this kind of uploads i think that there is no way that videos like that could get any crazier. It seems that i am wrong.
You've got to feel good for the crawler. 60 years later and it finally got its own ticket to space.
(And it deserves astronaut wings more than Bill Nelson ever did. )
Now he just needs to take the launch tower on the next one…
underrated creator out there!
what a monster, and the music slaps real good, me like it
That's the kind of thrust that will slow kerbins orbit down enough to sink it in the sun...
No Kerbin here, just Earth ;)
Kerbin is locked to a rail, so no amount of thrust can deorbit it
Even if it wasn’t locked, Kerbin still wouldn’t care due to it’s ludicrous mass
I am honestly more impressed about the controlled landing on Woomera than on the whole trip to Mars. I'll never understand how some people have that much control over landing position, specially here when deorbiting was made by aerobreaking with little to no fuel for corrections. How the heck did you manage landing on an spaceport runway?
I made a tiny SSTO with one engine, about the size of a cruise missile and Jeb riding it all the way to orbit on a seat strapped to the side of the rocket. I got everything right - except the landing on the runway. I have never done that, even once.
czcams.com/video/a60v-gjNsKM/video.html
Lift vectoring.
It's the closest landing site. What would have been more impressive is a landing at Cape Canaveral, but maybe I'm being greedy.
this is bonkers. I love it.
wow that was fantastic !
This is more practical than the SLS and would likely cost less.
Lmaoooo sure buddy
Dang he’s good at making really funky rockets
I enjoyed that! And, y'know, anything is possible... 😊❤
I do really love the idea of launch vehicles launched from other worlds because of lower gravity and atmospheric drag. Like- Starship is planned to land on Mars and the Moon, but what if you built or landed a Super Heavy on one of those? Feels then you could get a much bigger payload or delta v. Or, like in this case, a Space Shuttle launching from Mars being enough to get back to Earth.
As shown in many of this channel’s videos, the issue isn’t getting back, it’s getting there in the first place
love the overexpanded SRBs
This whole thing was terrifying, and literally everythng about that re-entry and landing was luck.
I am *stunned*.
that landing is the most insane one ever
Enterprise finally got a space flight!
You just break the game "push it to the limit" not only applies to your performance, but also to the game engine, I dont think unity is going to handle it really well
Edit: The SOCK Shuttle flies like a dream!
Interesting concept
Me: Oh, a TD video, hit the like button!
Me at spontaneous gimbal dancing: Damn, if only I could like again
Me at perfect landing: STOP I CAN ONLY LIKE IT SO MUCH
1:31
"wyd?"
"Taking an entire Space Shuttle launch platform to Mars via giant space toilet, wbu?"
You could save some mass by ditching the railing in the launch gantry. The empire learned this trick a long, long time ago.
12:49 *2003 flashbacks intensifies*
Jeb: Perfect landing!
Entire Remainder of Crew: Hello, chiropractor?
yay! on my birthday!
happy birthday
Its belated, but Happy Birthday!
very kerbal landing
i dont want to sound like a nerd, and im not sure, but acording to my calculations, this rocket is almost 500 meters tall (1500 feet).
this thing us huge, very good work dude!
NASA punching the air rn, literally screaming and crying
A world record epic
this probably shifted Earth out of it's alignment
Earth in RSS is on rails much like Kerbin in stock KSP, meaning no amount of thrust can move it.
Even with principia installed, Earth would not be moved by 57 sea dragon engines. They are powerful, but not enough.
This is a révolution !
Can you do the nearly exact same but with the sls (space launch system)?
14:45 I think after all that time in low gravity, that landing means a crushed vertebrae or slipped disc 😭
Amazing video and great choice of music
Ultimate realism
Please... please be reasonable this time.
impossible
Lemme stop you right there
Calvin is like that one kid on the Magic School Bus who always hopes for a normal field trip
Rocket thicc so sorry cal
@@Gameknigh slso thats arnold
Got an interesting proposal.
A hundred or two years from now, Mars is just about self sufficient, and a war breaks out on Earth, knocking down all superpowers in existence at the time, and a technological setback might come along with it. So, the people on Mars manage to survive, and a long time later develop the infrastructure for spaceflight. They, of course, eventually send some people to Earth.
This plot line sets up a classic aliens-come-to-earth plot, only with quite a twist, and it’s no surprise that the aliens look like humans. Just an idea, but it sounds like an interesting movie perhaps!
II hope I live long enough to see this kind of stuff actually taking place. 🤯🤞🏻🤞🏻
How did you manage to make the crawler work? I downloaded it but for some reason the crawler didn't appeared maybe I did something wrong?
I'm speechless 😶
These are the type of videos that deserve to be on trending, not those cringy clickbait Fortnite CZcamsrs
Heh, thanks. Alas, this content just doesn't have the same broad appeal I suppose, but it's still doing reasonably well.
You repurposed Enterprise as a full-fledged orbiter? What an amazing purpose of it to be put on mars.
The density of the atmosphere on mars is 90 times lower than on the cape's runway, the landing speed on Mars would be about 6 times higher. How long would the runway have to be for a safe landing?
Honestly i think the bolts holding the shuttle to the "pad" would snap
In the past when the words "Brute Force" have been used I have usually pictured The Hulk. From now on, however, ill be picturing this monstrosity of a launch vehicle.
Plot twist: challenger disaster 2 happens on mars and they all die
NASA:(transport space shuttle into its launch site slowly, and gently as podsible)
TD Space: *LETS PUT THE F@CKING SPACE SHUTTLE ON MARS* For Recovering misson
"how do you want it big"
*YES*
It's when Space Shuttle Enterprise is on the pad that you realize that something is wrong...
The sheer awesomeness of this is eclipsed only by the amount of free time that you have.
Believe it or not, this is the fastest type of content I produce - 1 day to build, fly, and record, 2 days to edit and publish. It's why I like doing them.
@@TDChannelKSP Impressive.
That Space Shuttle Aerobrake same like STS-107 re-entry in panic and chaos 13:08
LOL ! ! ! That Launch Would Have Destroyed Just About All The NASA Facilities And Infrastructure At The Kennedy Space Centre ! ! ! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
isso foi uma das coisas mais bizarras que eu já vi alguém fazer no kerbal, parabéns XD
That's the most Kerbal thing I've ever seen.
NASA with the militarys budget be like:
Tho for realzies this is SICK!
Wow, Its soo big.
Next video be like:
Bringing the whole of boca chica to alpha centauri only using areobee engines
DUDE! THIS IS AMAZING!!!!
NASA with military budget.
12:11 "damnit, i left my phone in there!"
8:08 deserts of kharak vibes