Brewzilla 65L Robobrew - 1st Brew Day On The New System
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- čas přidán 6. 07. 2024
- The first brew day on the NEW Robobrew Brewzilla 65L from Kegland. Check out the mash, the sparge, the boil and the new larger chiller!
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I really appriciate that you add Celsius for us non-US residents. Keep up the good work! =)
Even more helpful info on the system! Thank you!
No problem!! Thanks for watching!
Good Review and Brew Day. Cheers, Brian!
Thanks Brian!! Cheers! 👍🍻
Awesome content, I haven't had a chance to use my system in a year so this was so helpful in getting back used to the brew day!
Thanks!! 👍🍻
I think u answered one of my problems that i have with a brewing System. Thanks and cheers 🍻
Good to hear!!
Loving the new basement, looks great with the reveiw. Enjoyed the reveiw..
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Thanks! It is a pretty nice system for sure! Cheers! 👍🍻
Great video.. scaling down to work with my Klarstein 30L system.. keep up the nice work!
Thanks Wally!! Cheers! 👍🍻
Can't wait for the new profile to be updated, I have both the 35 and 65L versions and love them!
Are you in the brewzilla group on Facebook? I uploaded the profile there a couple weeks ago. 👍🍻
Thanks again, Brian! Looks like you had a good brew day. I agree, it looks like you might have been a bit heavy on the mash water but I'm still wrestling with that too.
I'll get it.. I know what the problem was.. Cheers! 👍🍻
been waiting for this one...awesome job Brian. You really make us want to switch to electric! Just love how easily you can dial in temps and control things. CHEERS!
That is definitely an advantage of the electric systems! Cheers! 👍🍻
Looks like a great system and you definitely can’t beat the price on it for a 10 gallon system.
I am hoping to have my new system up and running very soon!
Nice!! Big batches!
Great review Brian. Looks like a pretty great value system!
Yeah it does! Gonna run a few more batches through it and see how they turn out. But initially it looks great! Cheers Andrew! 👍🍻
Looks like a great brew day on the new Brewzilla. It will be a dandy system for 10 gallon brews. I have the 35 Litre Robobrew V3 and love it. So easy to brew with and clean up.......Take care, Bluefin.
Thanks for watching and commenting! 🍻👍
Thanks dude! The better tip was about the right way using the pump. I watched another people using the pump but not in circles like you did in this vídeo. When you put the rose at the right spot the worth goes like a clock, thank you so much. I bought a brewzilla 35 l last week. Peace!
Glad you found it helpful! 👍🍻
Great video. Love the brewcave too!
Thanks man!! Cheers! 👍🍻
Hi Brian, great videos, I've got a lot of inspiration from your videos, I've found the best way to remove that burnt on crud on the bottom of the electric brew kettle is a couple of litres of water a teaspoon of citric acid and turn on the boiler for a couple of minutes on watch it disrepair, job done. Love the brew house.
Good tip!! I was mainly showing it uncleaned just to answer a question from a Reddit user. They asked what the bottom looked like after a brew day. Thanks for the compliments!! Makin' me blush! Cheers! 👍🍻
great review I think I'm sold . cheers man.
Cheers!! 👍🍻
I've done a lot of pressurized lager fermentation. My first I also did with the same yeast as you. The High pressure lager. But I found that there actually isn't any special with that yeast. At least in my opinion. All yeasts I've tried have worked fine under pressure. Tried like 5 different lager strains and maybe about the same amount of ale strains so far under pressure. Everyone of them has worked fine under pressure. And I have been fermenting under like 35psi (2.4 bar). Most lagers under pressure I've started at 18C (64.4f). One I tried started at 22c (72f). All came out clean as a bell. I have made both a 3day lager and a 5day lager when I tried to push it. Both worked fine. Really nice to be able to pressure ferment. Love the new room!
Wow thanks for all that research! I wil6 have to do some video watching! The brew room is getting there! Not done yet but getting close! Cheers! 👍🍻
Great!... now I want one!... thanks a lot Brian!...
Lol sorry!! New gear has that effect on people!! Thanks for watching!!👍🍻
I agree with the mash water. I did my first brew with it this past Saturday, and found my mash a bit thin too. Gonna try for a bit thicker mash next time. Can't wait to taste my first 10gal batch of Kölsch.
Awesome! I know where I went wrong. I'll be fixing it! 👍🍻
I have that exact same spoon! Just need the same kettle now. Great vid, thanks for sharing! I use a stainless paddle on my cordless drill to mix my grains in, you should try that!
Haha nice!! Mixing the grains in the kettle?
I raise the basket in the Brewtools B80pro manually.... VERY heavy! So I'll need to figure something out :-P Good to see you back on the brew horse again, Brian. My next brew will be a pilsner and gonna use high pressure yeast as well. Cheers!
Nice!! I'll let you know how mine goes!! I just talked to the brew tools guys about plug configurations the other day! Maybe I can review one!! Lol cheers Thomas! 👍🍻
Very nice, definitely going to up my game in the near future, this looks good, definitely worth adding a plate chiller me thinks, cheers Brian
Either a counter flowers or a jaded chiller is a excellent upgrade. Cheers Craig!! 👍🍻
Nice! Thank you! Really interessted by the profile :)
I'll be releasing it once I get it dialed in. 👍🍻
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers Did you had the chance to get it?
I'm ready to click on buy, just have a question: Do you think I could get 55 liters of wort out of this?
J4N I have not had a chance to compete the profile yet. 55l of wort is probably pushing it. I think you could but would not be a high gravity beer, due to grain basket limitations.
Wow. Cool! That mash pipe sure did look heavy indeed!
It was for sure!!
Cool vidéo! Thanks!
Thanks!! 👍🍻
Excellent video Brian! I want to upgrade to electric and I believe this system will be it! Gotta figure out a way to lift the grain though...gotta be an easier way!
Yeah get a pulley system off of Amazon. Search hunting hoist or deer hunting hoist. Works perfect for this. Really easy to lift. I have one just did not have a place to hook it. 🍻👍
Great vid 🍻
Thanks man! 👍🍻
Great video
Thanks man! 👍🍻
I got this delivered yesterday. Haven't even opened the box yet, busy working on the house. Hopefully it'll work good, I've been brewing 10 gallon batches for a while now. I definitely didn't want the smaller one.
It is a good system. I think you'll enjoy! 👍🍻
Great Video! One question I have for you, do you use the pump and arm to transfer wort to the fermenter? I've noticed that as I chill with the 35L system a lot of the break material will drop out but then ends up in the fermenter anyway because it pulls from the bottom. Any thoughts?
Yes I did use the pump and had no problem with clogs at all. The material did wind up on the bottom screen. But no issues. Cheers! 👍🍻
Thanks for the review Brian! Was that a second vessel you were using for sparge water? Thanks! Shawn
Yep!! Had to get the little brother involved! Didn't want it to feel left out!! Lol Cheers!! 👍🍻
I can't really tell, and I ordered the robobrew v3 so it may be different, but is the pump bulkhead in the bottom of the pan a weldless fitting? Thanks for the awesome videos. TONS of info
Yes it is a weldless fitting. Same as the smaller version. 12 or 13 mm I think?
I love the review! I am thinking about getting the 35L size. Since I am pretty new to homebrewing, how do you transfer the wort to a fermenter (bucket, carboy and conical)?
Use the internal pump to transfer. 👍🍻
Looking good, Brian. I think I'll invest in the Brewzilla for the versatility. I'm a dark ale and stout man, so this will be ideal for making hi grav beers.
Have you tried Kegland's "Kegmenters"? Or any other brands similar in design? I have a Fermentasaurus and I'm looking forward to its successor. However I'm also considering just going straight to a Kegmenter. The are more compact and durable. Definitely more suited to living in a fridge, which is what I need to use if I'm to produce consistent beers in the Australian summer.
Yeah I have seen them. I am using a cornical for 1/2 the batch. it converts to a keg after fermentation, so we'll so how that goes. Sounds like the kegmenter would be a worthwhile addition to your setup! Thanks for watching and commenting with your thoughts and suggestions!
Aww man. A guy could get real darn thirsty in 8 weeks. Looks like a great little system. A whirlpool arm to hang over the side while chilling would probably make chilling quicker and easier. Overall, looks like a GEM! Brewery is looking great, the wife must rule with an IRON FIST! Cheers!
Yeah, I am pretty impressed with it I'll say. Progress is being made. If you want to know the real story, you watch all the way to the end, past the end screen and find out who's in charge!! Lol
8 weeks??
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers Lagers take too long to get good. I get thirsty too quick. Cheers.
@@beeroquoisnation oh but you are wrong.. The yeast I'm using is a high pressure lager.. 5 day lager after fermentation the ready to drink. 👍🍻
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers found this gem and enjoyed the lagering manipulation temps and time variables that get a lager in 5 days. Interesting concepts. Looking forward to trying some of these experiments. czcams.com/video/9usyO1PKzOU/video.html
Hercules Hercules, I know 10-12 lbs of wet grain is heavy. I can’t imagine 25😳. You may want to test the temp of the mash at the top with a separate thermometer, I’ve found that if you slow down the recirculation too much there can be a big swing in temperature variation. Looks like a good system. Definitely need to eat your wheaties if you plan on lifting the malt pipe by hand though. Cheers Brian 🍻
Lol that is true!! Wonder if we could get on a Wheaties box?!? Lol if I remember right I only dropped it back halfway at the end. I will measure next time! 🍻👍cheers!
Do you start recirculation when you get your pH dialed in during the mash? If you need to make any pH adjustments, do you add lactic acid or baking soda through the overflow pipe (middle pipe in the malt pipe) or directly on the mash? Thank you for your help!!
I generally will take a measurement at the end of the 10 minute rest. Then add the adjustment right to the mash and stir. I have pretty good faith in brewfather at this point and have not had to make any adjustments other than what I calculated in the software. 👍🍻
Can you get a unibrau system and do a video on that. Thanks for all the videos and information.
I have talked to Stephen at unibrau, but have never received a test unit from him. You could suggest a review to them. Maybe that would help? Cheers!
Since using the robobrew, have you used the circulation arm through the whole brew process and have you experienced scorching on the bottom?
I did not experience any scorching. I show the bottom of the kettle near the end of the video if you want to see. The circulation arm can be used through the entire process without any issues. Cheers Bruce! 👍🍻
What did you use to cooling the wort, just tap water and throw the hot one to the drain?, or you use a recirculate system to prevent wasting water?, I have the grainfather system and it comes with a counter flow to cooling the water so I implemented a recirculating system but I think for 15 gallons will not be enough water to cool that amount
I used tap water. At about 60 decrees
For the screen that sits on top of the mash - do you allow that to sit right on the grain, or do you hold it up with the spring clip?
It slides down and sits on top of the mash. I try to make sure it's not compressing the mash, bit sitting lightly on top. 👍🍻
Have you brewed a 5 gallon batch yet on the 65l Brewzilla? I did one today where the recipe called for 15 quarts of strike water. The water level barely reached the bottom of the malt pipe. I had to add another 4 quarts to mash in just 10 pounds of grain. It was still pretty thick.
I have not but I know if you do it needs to be fairly high gravity, and probably not sparge much.
I had my last E4 on my mash and boil tonight. Brewzilla is on order.
You doing the 65L?
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers yes I am. I need that capacity to go all in on stouts and high gravity Belgians that I've been salivating to brew
@@scottgoebel4671 you'll like it! It's a good system. 👍🍻
Awesome brew day...thanks for sharing! It looks like this is a great system, everything I would hope for. One question - one of the things that I always thought the Grainfather had over the robobrew was the location of the pump. Grainfather has the pump in a shell type housing that, if you got it stuck, you can clear it manually and directly. Robobrew and Brewzilla still have it under the base. Do you see this as being a real issue? It is the only detractor I see with this unit. I wish it had an external liquid level and as long as I am wishing - I wish the control was as advanced as Grainfather or there was an upgrade option for that - bluetooth or wifi and online recipe crafting with download for your brewday. But it is a lot of gear for the money.
You bring up great points!! If those things are important you definitely would be looking elsewhere. That being said the price is really right on this system for large batches! 👍🍻
I have not had any issues with clogs on either the small or large system personally.
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers Where exactly DO these systems draw hot wort in from? Is there a drain in the bottom of the kettle and the output just shoots out the side and makes a 90 degree turn up to the spare arm?
@@jcinsaniac pump is in the bottom inlet is off to the side from the spigot. Then a hose connects to the return pipe inside the bottom or the system. Pretty much like you said. 👍🍻
Love your channel! I need to know the mash tun dead space volume on the Brewzilla 65L in gallons. Thank you Brian!!!!
I covered that in the first video. 3 gallons. Thanks for the comments. I have a BeerSmith profile. Shoot me an email.
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers I use brew father. What would I make my grain water ratio? U rock
1.25 qts per lb
I'm interested in people's thoughts on the "whirlpool" idea when returning wort to the top screen during the mash. I just return mine straight onto the top screen. I _guess_ you might argue that by returning into one spot (even though the sweet liquor sits about 15mm above the top screen) that I promote channelling by 'drilling' the return at one point. On the other hand, would a whirlpool perhaps force the sweet liquor out to the edges of the tun and induce channelling down the sides of the malt pipe? Or, is it all irrelevant?
I don't worry about that really, and you don't really have to either, as long as it is circulating it is all good. This for watching! 👍🍻
Brewing on my 65 litre BrewZ the malt amount often seems to be roughly 12-14 kilos or 27-31 lbs. I realize there are several factors and obviously it will vary a lot, but: What would your time estimate be for a "normal" sparge and a "maximum", disregarding any "stuck mash", referring to above ?
Sorry, got one more for you Brian - Covid have so far prevented me from attending a brewing course as intended . . . 😊😊
Can you tell me the benefits of and what the whirlpool on top of grainbed in particular do when mashing ? Compairing it to e.g. SS Brewtech's Manifold or More Beers cheap plastic one mentioned in your DIY Sparge Arm video. Have both and are often using the manifold when sparging.
Cheers from Norway !
What do you mean by normal sparge? Time it takes to complete? On the "whirlpool" on top of the grain, it's not absolutely necessary what you want to prevent is the liquid running down the side of the malt pipe and not through the grain.. you dont have to have a fancy manifold to achieve that.
Do you have to use a seperate vessel for Sparge? Or could you do full volume then recirculate?
You could do a no sparge on a 5 gallon batch on a 10 gallon batch you would need to sparge. 👍🍻
Have you got any updates on efficiencies for 65L or 25L batches yet?
Maybe make an update video of your experiences or thoughts after 10 months?
I just got mine, but I'm wondering if I got scammed, the lower compartment was dented, and the lid didn't have a center whole for return circulation.
Generally on 10 gallon batches I am getting 75% efficiency.
Any update on the mash water calculations? My internet research is getting lots of different answers.
Not yet.. 😏 haven't had a chance to brew on it again yet. Been trying to get the basement completed.. I need to brew again soon though. So hopefully I can have something out soon
What is the purpose of the top screen on the mash? How do you unclog if the pump backs up?
The top screen is just to disperse the returning wort more evenly so it doesn't make a hole in the grain, as well as keep grain out of your mash. As far as the pump you would have to drain the wort and take the bottom off... Not fun. That said, I have not had and issue with it. 👍🍻
Noticed you have Brewzilla with an extension cord to outlet I opened my 65L yesterday and realized it is not typical 220V dryer plug or to my electric range. Any help on what your connection service is would be greatly appreciated. Cheers
I had to make an extension cord to adapt it over. Used a dryer cord and this NEMA 6-20 wall plug to make it.
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Brian, keep up the great work man.
Your videos are very helpful and much appreciated.
I am considering upgrading to a larger brew system. I am currently using a G30 Grainfather (which I love and adore and has served me very well). But it is time to upgrade to a larger vessel. I thought the G70 would be a natural move for me personally, however, I'm not wholly convinced on the performance of the Grainfather G70.
I note you posted this videos 2 years ago, so my question is; how is the Brewzilla 65L still working out for you? Are you still using it?
I am considering it for my next purchase and I would appreciate your experience and knowledge from using it over the last two years.
Thank you.
I haven't used it exclusively, but I have done 5-7 brews on it since the review. I have to say it is one of the most solid systems I have reviewed. No frills, just makes 10 gallons of beer. I definitely recommend it for the price and just all around ease of use. 👍🍻
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers Thanks man. Appreciate it.
@@catsfanny 👍🍻
Would you recommend the system to brew 10 gallons batches of pale pale? And what do you mean by low gravity beers? Beers with final low gravity? Like 1.007?
Sure you could brew 10 gallon batches of that style. By low gravity I meant something other than double IPA, imperial Stout, barley wine,.stuff like that requires more grain than the capacity of the system (if you're brewing 10 gallon batches) if you did 5 gallons of those styles you're fine. 👍🍻
Apparently with Brewzilla 3.1 there are 2 automatic modes. in Mode one it just flick to next stage when time is up and timer will start but in mode 2 it will only start the timer in next stage once the desired set temp is reached. I will try this later.
There are two automatic modes which can be switched between. The first automatic
mode will start the timer before reaching the step temperature. The second automatic
mode will wait until the temperature of the step has been reached before starting the
timer for the step. To switch between automatic modes hold the S1-S6 button for 5
seconds. If one beep is heard then it is in the second mode whereas, if two beeps are
heard then it is in the first mode
Yes that is correct. 👍🍻
Great video was wandering what type of adapter did you use?
It is one that I made to take my 4 wire GFCI protected outlet down then the same plug as the Brewazilla
Do you have a video on how you made it? Thanks.
Hay mate witch ss brewtech unitank would match this unit. 14gallon or 1/2 bbl.
14 gallon would work. 👍🍻
I currently have a 5gal robobrew, make 5 %- 6% 5g batches with it. Is this worth upgrading to do 10g batches on? Or should I look at alternate systems for 10g batches?
I think this I a great system for 10 gallon hatches. It has worked well everytime I use it. 👍🍻
Do you need a ventilation system for this? Great video as always
I would say yes, it boils off at least a gallon in 60 minutes.
Could the 65L be used for 5gallon batches as well?
Yes no sparge you could, if you watch the first video I show how much space there is at 6 gallons. The space under the malt pipe is the biggest issue.. 3 gallons! Cheers! 👍🍻
Never brewed a lager. Tisk tisk. Cheers
Lol makes 2 of us.. Well one now!! Lol 👍🍻
Do you think there will ever be an equipment profile in brewsmith for the 35L brewzilla?
BeerSmith? I have one to them it should be in the equipment options.
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers my bad. Yes beersmith. I saw a 65L but not the 35L. Is it there or do I need to download it?
Probably dona download of the add ons I think it's called.
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers 🤔🤔I think I might see what that meant. I'll look through beersmith later when I get home. Thanks!
@@Rubio_Eric 👍🍻
What's size silicone tube in the immersion chiller?
You can use1/2" Just use some hose clamps, for a tight fit you would need 12mm 👍🍻
Did you double check the accuracy of the temperature of the system against a known calibrated thermometer?
I did not. Something I will do on the next brew day. 👍🍻
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers Awesome. Looking forward to it as I am still looking for an entry-level electric system. And O-H-
Thanks for using metric scale. Cheers fella 🍺
Hey I realize not everyone uses the archaic system we do in the US!! Lol Glad you enjoyed! Cheers! 👍🍻
What brewing efficiency do you get on the 65L system versus 35L please Brian.
I got 75% Tuesday on a 10 gallon batch.. Not bad 22lbs of grain
I have gotten 70 - 75%+ on the 35L
Short Circuited Brewers excellent cheers.
Have u done a completely beginner video? im very new and really dont know much the electric seems like the best option for me.
I have one in the works right now, need to do the bottling and it will be coming out. Stay tuned! In the mean time you might check out my induction plate brewing system. I think that is a great place to start. czcams.com/video/SMML1MRCpIQ/video.html
Check out David Heath videos using his 30l grainfather
@@mzmagister yes David and I talk all the time! He has some good videos for sure! 👍🍻
Where did you buy your plug adapter?
I made it myself.
The heating elements are not in direct contact with the wort?
No they are "glued" to the bottom of the kettle. Unlike other systems with the element exposed in the kettle. 👍🍻
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers Does it seem like the elements are replaceable without a major surgery? A typical element has a nut and wiring, not potting epoxy or similar attachment. Would be a shame to discard the entire unit when elements wear out.
@@mordantly they are not serviceable unfortunately.
i am looking at buying this system in a few months, when you are "sparging" are you adding water with circulation or just adding water?
Just pouring water over the top.
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers ah. thanks! cant wait to get an electric setup
I won't ever go back!! 👍🍻
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers might as well do 20 gallon batches, your already making beer, right?
Lol right!!
Would this system work well for no sparge 5 gallon barleywine or imperial stouts or Belgian quads?
Definitely!! 👍🍻
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers Thanks Brian, I think I may have asked again in another video, sorry about the duplicate question. At the price point, I may get it. Once I went indoors with the Anvil, not really interested in brewing outside in St. Louis heat or cold again, ha ha!
@@tedoneill3309 no problem. My gfci cord would work for this system as well to plug into the dryer outlet..you'd just need a different plug end for it. The 65l draws just barely 15 amps so the 20 amp gfci in that video would work fine.
Did you ever max out a grain bill in this system?
I have not.. YET.. 😁
Short Circuited Brewers patiently waiting... well maybe not so patient.
Any update on the mash water calculations?
Christian Prescott I actually do have a profile that I think is really close. Are you on the America Facebook group?
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers I am not but can join TY
@@christianprescott5203 ok I am going to put it out on there for people to use.
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers not sure what that group is im on the Brewzilla Facebook group
@@christianprescott5203 there are 2 one Aussie based and one American.
Do you know of any issues with the pump? I just got my electric installed and started to do a trail run of my system. I put 5 gallons of water into my brewzilla. I started heating the water and at 80F started the pump to help with heating the water. I went back to check on it and temp was at 130, and I noticed it had stopped circulating but the pump was running. Do you know if you can only run the pump for a certain amount of continuous time? I couldn't get the thing to recirculate once it had stopped recirculating. I then emptied out the brewzilla put colder water in it like I was starting over, and it started recirculating again like it first did. Any ideas? Thanks!
Hmm that is weird you should be able to run it all the time. I had no issues with mine at all. I would see if you could duplicate the issue?
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers I will be attempting brew day on Friday and will see what happens. Yeah, I have no idea why it would stop recirculating.
Cavitation? Maybe? That's really reaching IMO. The impeller sticking might be another, but I would not think that at 80f I did see a couple of the smaller units has a metal shaving that looked like a rotini noodle.. But I have not heard of many of those. Let me know what you find out! 👍🍻
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers I will do, is there any issues with sticking something into the hole inside and out to see if there is possibly anything in there?
I would be careful doing that, if it is like the smaller versions the silicone tubing has a 90 degree bend in it and you could knock the house off altogether or puncture it. If you want to do that I would take the bottom cover off and have a look. The hoses are held on by spring clips.
An engine crane is your friend once you go over 10gal.
Definitely!! I also do have a hunting winch like you would use to hoist and field dress an animal. That works very well! I just need to install a hook in the ceiling to use it. 👍🍻
Short Circuited Brewers I’ve got a block and tackle hanging from a box rail roller setup that runs over the brew kettle, sink and trash can. Very handy.
CHEEERS BUDDY
...................... Cheeeeerrrsss Tim! 👍🍻
Brewzilla vs Anvil Foundry?
You asking which to choose?
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers yeah need some advice. This is a tougher decision than I thought
If you are looking at the 65L does that mean you have 240v accessable?
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers well I should be able to just unplug my dryer. Wife won’t be happy but I’m really gonna want that 240V
Yeah I agree. The Brewzilla is 65 L is really nice I've had zero complaints using it. The minimum match size on it would probably be pretty large. I don't think you would go wrong with the Brewzilla of 65 L or the Anvil Foundry 10.5. while you can get the 35 l Brewzilla in 240 volts. I think the Anvil Foundry 10.5 has a slight edge with the controller position as well as the accuracy of maintaining temperatures. 👍🍻
What is the max grain that it can handle? Thanks.
35 or 40 lbs I believe.