Yamaha Venova: Beginners Tutorial | Team Recorder
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- A few weeks back I published an unboxing/review of the Yamaha Venova - now I'm back, with a tutorial for beginners on the instrument! Thanks to Yamaha for sponsoring this video.
Whether you're a recorder player (like me) or a reed player (like Jon), we give you a bunch of handy tips to help you create a good sound, figure out all the fingerings, and make a good start on this instrument. Questions? Put em in the comments!
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Hi! I'm a casual recorder player and have been trying to play soprano venova for abt a year but still can't get it right. Unfortunately there aren't many venova tutorials and tips accessible (some I've found are in japanese and I can't understand anything). It would really make my day if you guys continue to cover venova related topics in your vids for beginner venova players 😁
There is a Hal Leonard Venova book too... have you seen it?
@@hagglepig26 cant seem to find it in local stores though.. is it good?
The Venova is super cool. I want one.
On an unrelated note, I need more of John beat boxing while you play.
When I was choosing what instrument to learn I chose the recorder, because as much as I love the concept of Venova, it doesn't play in tune! You have to really control your breath etc to be able to play in tune. Even Jon is struggling!
Jon sounds like a 60s jazz player, Sarah sounds like a snake charmer.
You’re not wrong 😅
I've said it before, but it warrants saying again, you two have a great dynamic. ❤
Naw thanks 🥰
I hope they will ask you to review some of their recorders too!
Me too, if they wanna send me a wooden great bass I won’t complain 😁
today i got my alto venova, and i also happened to stumble across this channel (recommendations popping up while watching TwoSetViolin), had fun watching your $10 vs $1000 recorder video, could not BELIEVE you just released a venova video!! how serendipitous!
Wooo!
That's how I found this channel too. TwoSet's reaction to Sarah's reaction to their violin vs recorder video.
Because, when their owner had a baby, their respective instruments also decided to have one 🙂🙂!
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I picked up the soprano one on a whim a few weeks ago; the cashier at my music store didn't know what it was and was surprised they even had one! They had to literally dust it off when they brought it out haha.
I have a soprano venova. It's a fun instrument to play. I'll come back for more content.
Interesting I think Jon sounds a bit better than most saxophone players on this instrument, I reckon its because he also plays the clarinet. I think we have yet to hear this instrument at its full potential, because that would require like three hours per day of practice over a number of years + no one really knows what the ideal tone might be. Also, a double lip embouchure is going to be possible but not many people have gone down this route on single reeds (not in modern times anyway). This is one of the best videos I have seen though as most are either by people that don't really know what they are doing, or they are professional sax players or whatever and slag the instrument for its perceived faults. This is a very good instructional video, I'm tempted to get one, but not before I have many more scales etc under my belt on the saxophone (being fairly new to the sax).
Would love to know (and see) what you two think or the Nuvo Clarineo. Also: the two of you are adorbs!
I just bought an alto venova! And came across your channel video. I thought it was gonna be so difficult to play it because I haven't played any instrument before. I feel a bit overwhelmed and thought my venova buy was impulsive. But I am happy to have watched your video. I have also been learning how to play a recorder! I will continue to practice it even with the venova. I think it has been helpful. But more music theory for me firstm
Can you review nuvo recorder plus?
I'm planning to buy one.
Thanks 😊
Can't wait for you to get reed of the reeds next week! (Sorry for this horrible joke) 😬
Just got a soprano venova and I've been playing it for a few days. The keys are a bit different on mine; it doesn't have that F/F♯︎ key with the hole in it, just two split keys for the bottom four holes, and finger holes for all the rest. It's definitely an interesting instrument, and this was a great tutorial. I haven't played a recorder in about 30 years, and I'm completely new to reed instruments. I'm getting a kind of buzzing, vibrating sound with some of the lowest notes at the moment, which probably has something to do with my embouchure, and maybe the positioning of the reed. I'm sure that will work out with practice, and getting used to the instrument over time. It would be great if you can do some more videos on the venova in the future.
The Odd Couple energy of you two is entertaining, with our without the lesson. 😂
Just Groovy!!!
I have the soprano one, it's so difficult to make a sound. Few minutes of playing the venova i get dizzy 😵. And the teeth thing is so awkward i keep holding it with my lips.
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Jon, a professional clarinettist/saxophonist, has to work to get a good sound out of it... It really doesn't look like an instrument for an amateur.
Yeah, I like the Venova but I find its marketing questionable as something "anyone can learn to play with ease"-it seems like a new-age clarinet/sax in terms of technical difficulty. I can certainly see it as a "casual" instrument for an experienced amateur or professional single-reed player, though-at that price and size, it's certainly easy to carry around just for a casual jam or as a novelty if you don't want to lug your good alto sax around, for instance.
@KangKook Choi: Since you're first starting with a single reed instrument, why not try with a cane reed, maybe 1.5 hardness?
I play clarinet and don't like plastic reeds. Reeds are a very personal preference.
@@lesliefranklin1870 I agree. I'm a newbie and once I got a new reed, it was much easier to play.
wow, that actually sounds so beautiful
Excelente, felicitaciones 🍾🎉🎈🎊 saludos y abrazos 🫂
I bought the soprano a few months ago and even as a saxophoneplayer I find it hard to play. The intonation is so difficult! Guess I have to practice a bit more.
As for the money cleaning tip: I would rather use a coffeefilter. ( Money is dirty)
The coffee filter idea is good... if only because it really doesn't matter if you end by ripping it.
@@idraote Just to be clear: you have to use a dry one, not wet. And do not put too much pressure on the keys. If It works for my saxophones, it should work with the venova too
Cigarette paper is the traditional cleaning material for pads. Regarding Venova, I play clarinet and sax a bit, and I also have a soprano Venova. It is very difficult to play and it doesn't sound that good. A soprano saxophone is much easier to play and sounds much better. It is difficult to think of my Venova as anything but a waste of money at this point.
I'm generally a big fan of innovation in musical instruments and I wanted to love the Venova. I think there are some great ideas in its design, but the final product, at least in the case of the soprano instrument, is disappointing. I would like to see more instruments based on this concept, but the first iteration is a failure to my mind.
Good team work.
I used to play clarinet for years. It got stolen and I had no money to replace it. I got a venova to just have something to play around with but I cannot get it to not squeak. Any tips? Im wondering if a different reed would help?
It looks so fun!
Wow
Nice video. I keep thinking about trying this or a xaphoon. Hear so many different opinions and just when I think I've come to a decision.....
Keen to find one of these to try! Pity, we have plastic money notes here in Oz.
Oh yeah! Well, any slightly rough paper will do.
At Thomann I have actually found a Tenor Venova. Ever tried that one?
in case you wondering why we love this channel:
02:12 "i need to put a little bit futher in my mouth than i would normally be used to, lets give you the fingeries"
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@@Team_Recorder early mama-santa-klaus visit? i like that!!
sooooo....this is the post you reply? i've been spamming your channel for 2 years!! ahahahah and you chose this one,
ok ok, i'll go back to my "crush-on-sarah" comments! love the channel AND i don't play any recorder, beijinhos
the venova instrument created by Yamaha is without a doubt an original and very novel idea I would like to have it but I cannot buy it
Its harder for me to play lower notes but easy for high any tips
I love it
Thank you so much for the video! Do you think I could use recorder's music sheets to train with this?
Although considered a harder instrument, I find the Bb clarinet easier to play than tenor recorder and I'm a low brass player that's just starting on reeds. Still dabble in alto recorder and just got a new "darker" mouthpiece to give saxophone another shot as I found its tone too bright.
Is it hard to blow on venova. I'm tying to find woodwind doesn't need a lot lf air.
I do have a soprano venova, after trying it made me want to buy a saxophone.
Can you please provide tips for players with underbites?
The biggest hindrance in playing wind and reed instruments is having a bad embouchure... so, if there's tips on how to adapt to irregular shaped mouth, it would help make the instruments more popular!
That’s a really good question! Will get back to you.. any reed players with input?
@@Team_Recorder I didn't know any to be honest.
I'm asking because I have an underbite. It doesn't show much, but when I have to put something like a thermometer, lolipop or a whistle, I struggle to keep it in.
After watching your videos on flute, clarinet and saxophone, it made me feel like people with irregular shaped mouths are a little bit left out of the woodwind and reed instruments scene.
I plan on trying clarinet or venova next, but I'm thinking twice because of my condition, cause those things cost a lot and I don't want it to go to waste when it won't fit well in my mouth.
Then, there are those who have given up halfway through... People who have learnt it when they're small but quit when they have some dental problem growing up, or after having an injury.
It would be great to get a dentist that plays woodwind or reed instruments to show how an embouchure works and a real life case of a musician having to cope with dental problem growing up or after having an accident.
Maybe this could bust the myth I've heard about having an underbite or an overbite would make a person sing better,(think of Freddy Mercury) but, it makes it harder to learn woodwind and reed instruments.
I hope by looking at this issue, it would help many people to weigh the choice of musical instruments for their children, and would make those who have lost their hope rekindle it again!
Thanks in advance.
I've been wanting to try one if these but I barely get to play Recorder as much as I like on stage 😐
Have Yamaha send a soprano venova!!!
I like my Xaphoon... :-)
Sarah, thank you for another inspiring and entertaining video! Needless to say, the videos which include your husband are some of the best (I especially like the saxophone one). Having said that, I'm not buying one of those, it just seems pointless. Either play the recorder, or the saxophone (or both), instead of their mutated genetically defective offspring.
Honestly I'm considering getting one... At some point lol. Only just got the trombone
I never play a woodwind instrument and have a hard time on blow my soprano... And the sound, too bright 😄
I really want to learn, right now I make horrible sounds 😢
Elody review please I'm peruvian :D
Another great video. One question, "Why the U.S. currency?" Will a British note work as well? LOL!
Haha it will! A dollar is pretty much useless to us in the Netherlands so we use that so as to not waste money 😅
@@Team_Recorder LOL! 😂
Which recorder you recommend if I want to use til grade 8 exam ? Thanks
A Moeck or Mollenhauer will be good!
Yikes! 😱 I've heard better sounding party favors. 😲 I'll stay with my alto saxophone and Bb clarinet. 👍 😊
Yeeees that's what it reminds me off, I couldn't put my finger on what the sound was.
@@saralowe5306 👌 😉 It's also sounds something like a like a goose, especially when the professor plays it. 😣
I find the intonation of this instrument disappointing, and I don't have a good ear at all. I suppose single-reed instruments have to be fully-keyed for chromatic play. I think the best "reedocorder" that exists is the Kunath clarineau with three keys. I have one to take on trips, to have fun and to keep my embouchure. But nothing beats the real thing.
Why not a Chalumeau?
I can hear the plastic vibrating.
It is so out of tune. The scale he played is awful. I just wish Yamaha would make a decent plastic tenor with lots of keys for us mouldy oldies with arthritis. So many friends have had to give up on tenors. I have one from USA with two plastic keys, but I really want one or two more. It is great you only need to touch a tiny part of the key for it to work. The wooden ones with keys are so pricy.
PS what about a review of the Nuvo.
My wife is young and cant play tenor the holes are too big and far apart.
@@rftkohiah9136 With enough practice, it ought to work. I have tiny hands and I can play a standard tenor recorder. I am an experienced woodwind player, though, with many years of recorders and clarinet on my back. -- There are tenor recorders with a bent upper part for more comfort and additional keys, but they are, unfortunately, expensive.
It sounds like a Goose.
He is trying so hard to make it play in tune...
Almost all woodwind instruments have intonation issues. As a musician, you have to make adjustments on the fly.
It sounds like what happens when a saxophone tries (and succeeds) to be a duduk
I am a recorder player and I've got the venova and it's so hardest part is the blowing 😭😭 that's why I stopped using it.
@Heriberto Matta ohh, thanks for the information I'll try it 🤗
@Heriberto Matta I've just started playing the soprano with the reed that came with it, and I'm thinking about getting some spares, and maybe trying some cane ones too. What would you recommend?
Самый распространённый это тенор. Его как раз не дали
I want a tenor as well
I purchased a couple of years ago. Horrible imitation of an instrument, avoid at all costs. It won't appeal to a beginner because it is inimaginably hard to play even with the right replacement reed, and it won't appeal to saxophone players because they will see it as a toy. I can't just see the point of the venova
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+++ , I also had the stupidity to buy. This is a terrible "musical" instrument. A cheap clarinet (not much more expensive) is much better.
I had the same experience. It's OK if you like playing in C. For anything else, it's just terrible. It's still kind of fun to mess with, but it's a toy instrument in any case.
People said the same thing about the saxophone when it was invented, but it's not an "imitation clarinet", it's a hybrid of a clarinet and a horn. Likewise, the venova is a hybrid of a saxophone and a recorder; it's not trying to be anything else. I've tried playing a clarinet and I found it much, much harder than the venova. So in that way, I think it would appeal more to beginners than other reed instruments, because the fingerings are simpler.
WTH why money?! This gives me so much anxiety! Can't anything else be used for the cleaning?
honestily it doesn't sound good! a thousand brl for that? I would spend it in a second hand suzuki alto sax
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