Just imagine how Lumia photos could looks like if we have Lumia latest model in 2022. Lumia was 8 year ahead. Windows Phone was such a pleasure to use. So sad that there are gone. :(
Micosoft's CEO is a quitter, he turned Microsoft into a third party app supporter and cloud company for corporations. Then again what do you expect from people with MBAs? An MBA is the art of financial window dressing. Bill Gates can bring back Microsoft.
I love that guessing game, what a great idea! This time, it wasn't hard that much... Once you take some pics with Lumias, you can recognize them when comparing.
Nokia era is d the best camera phone feature on all phones before for me. Imagine if nokia continue till now. They have the best camera phone ever. Im 101% sure
Even watching this video in 1080p, it's easy to tell just how realistic-looking both 808 and 1020 are. That's the reason why I just got myself the 1020 because I'm still impressed with its camera performance in 2022.
Setuju mas,bahkan lumia1020 saya jadi kamera saku sy setiap hari karena mmg hoby foto lingkungan alam,penggunaan yg mudah dan SDH awam foto pake model hp
My goodness. In the beginning, I thought this video was useless as there was no way any decade-old phone would be able to compete with the s22 ultra. Nokia 808 wasn't that good. But Lumia 1020 is really good and I was surprised.
Wasn't that good? It's a 2010's phone camera, what are you talking about exactly? Look for ''iPhone 14 vs Nokia N808'' and see for yourself. It was decades ahead of it's time.
Even though the lumia 1020 came out 9 years ago, it's doing great work. If nokia had not been sold, cell phone cameras would have been much better now.
Once Micro and Soft infiltrated Nokia to make the sale, it was a forgone conclusion. I knew that a-head was trouble from the moment he took seat. And what came of it? Yet another failure on Micro and Soft's part. Imagine being given a perfectly tuned Ferrari, and because you're a hick, the only thing you can possibly do with it... is take it to the demolition derby. Micro & Soft should've never been given the keys, Nokia wasn't for rednecks and useless hacks who rely on governments to keep their business running.
I love and still use my Lumia 1020. If you can find on the Lumia 950/XL both had great optics and made some darn good images in their own right. All the Lumias work best in manual mode and like any camera once you know them well you can get some really good shots most modern phones mess up with the over-processing.
@Geek's Table I was choosing between 1020 and S22. And i have also both 3 model phones. I still prefer the 1020 and 808 for close shoot photos. For High Distance Shoot Photos i Prefer S22 with 10x Optical Zoom.
Awesome! It's so sad how crappy camera updates have been. Yes the ai and hdr is great. But sensor development has been garbage for years. If only we could get the 808 sensor on a newer phone with ois. And keep its more mature natural processing. Especially if it had the dual aperture. Or at least one of these current 50mp sensors be a regular bayer sensor.
There are physical limitations that cannot be overcome. The bigger the sensor is, the more space is required between it and the lens. That's why most of the progress has been on the software side. Some of the newer sensors do however manage to cram more pixels into their area - this Samsung one has a very high density.
@@JimmyTurboMods Wow....I had no idea there was size limitations or anything...... You're literally just playing into the money grabbing excuses of greedy multi billion dollar companies.
@@JimmyTurboMods they can always remove most of the cameras and leave only one main camera and make phone much much thicker to make space for better camera hardware and probably also battery.
@@jackskellington9570 Don't listen to James, the latest phones like Xiaomi Mi 12 Ultra has a bigger main sensor than the Pureview (1 inch v 1/1.2") and it also has 2 extra cameras, the ultra wide and 5x Telephoto. It's no a size problem, the issue is we started using Quad bayer sensors instead of Classic bayer, the benefits of which includes better HDR but the downside is that you don't gain resolution because essentially you are splitting one native pixel into quadrant i.e. Quad Pixel binning. So the 50mp sensors you see today are really 12.5mp and the 108mp on the Samsung is really a 27mp sensor whereas the Toshiba made sensors in the Nokia phone were true 41mp (38mp effectively) sensors which result in more natural Sharpness and detail vs the fake added Sharpness in modern smartphones.
can anybody please explain why the photo i shot using 1020 with flash on (shoting a spinning fan) is better compared to s22 ultra same with flash on ? ( i even tried manual and low exposure, iso etc) still the 1020 shot is much better
Nokia 808 and 1020 have a Xenon flash. This is the same type of flash used on "real" cameras. Modern phones use LED flash, and it's more of a torch these days as people just use night mode With s22, maybe try manuial mode, turn the iso up a little and the shutter speed quicker
Посмотрел все снимки, ошибся в 3 снимках, из за криво снятых. А так все просто берешь самый лучший натуральны снимок и это 100% nokia 808. Одно исправление для автора ролика, красивее не значит правильней, самый красивый снимок это всегда самый естественный снимок, и то что там приходится красок добавлять не делает фото красивее, это иллюзия красоты не более
WoW 😱! Nokia Lumia 1020 41mp 📸 still clean and closer to Samsung galaxy s22 ultra catch up. Unbelievable 🤯 & maybe Nokia 1020📱 will unheated for 🍏i📱's camera 📸
I got 100% correct. LOL, too easy. Nokia really likes white balance towards green/yellow. HDR is bad too. NO sharpness. 808 is really a great camera. I really want to buy an 808 to finish my Nokia collection.
I was not a big fan of Lumia phones,but Nokia 1020 is still the best on photo camera on mobiles. Samsung S22 ultra, without AI, is just a smartphone...if you want a real advanced camera smartphone go get Xperia Pro or Xperia 1 IV...
Man i wish Windows phone was still around.. Nokia devices from that time were so amazing build quality, still hold up. Those cameras also pretty damn good all these years later, for me s22 was not best in every photo guessing :D but in ~70% i did choose s22 ultra
If i compare all of the pics: Nokia 808 pureview: 9 S22 Ultra: 5 Nokia lumia 1020: 4 Tbh nokia lumia looked the best. But i liked the slight red and white tint on the nokia 808 pureview. And s22 ultra is just clean. Kinda boring.
They called it pureview for a reason. I get it now.. the colour science is on point, zero compromise.. 1020 very very close.. Samsung to me looks quite artificial..
Nokia808 still unbeaten atleast by my two phones vivo5 2017, and redminote10pro 2021 midrange phone When you zoom in the result images looks like pixelated over saturation but convenient unlike the 808 natural color but you need good angle coz sometimes blurry and dark results without software processor to make it sharp
If you know how to use it N808 is still the best. Images looks like taken with analog camera. I can not find better quality. There is no HDR but who needs HDR? But there are sharpness, saturation, and contrast sliders so you can create, control almost any kind of situation. 8mp images looks better than any today's flagship. Yes it has some limitations but I never missed any action.Dedicated camera button, xenon flash that freeze any action. Square sensor that records FHD video horizontaly independent of how you hold the camera. Mechanical shutter,ND filter.who needs more. Mine is stile close to me. I switched to Lumia 950XL great Raw's but horrible jpgs, far behind of N808. Then Huawei p30pro-huge disappointment. Shutter lag in pro mode etc. Absolutely useless for action, ugly artificial overprocessd images. Now S23U. Expert RAW is kind of joke.Samsung and other companies treats customers like stupid, blind as...les.Sometime cheap phones takes better images than so called flagships. Still Nokia, Xiaomi. Probably the only choice for photography is Sony 1V but I don't like screen proportions. Did I mentioned about video of Nokia 808? I saw few videos a week ago.Looks like taken with pro camera. Detail on shadows and light. Beautiful grain. My settings EV -0.3, contrast and saturation -1 if I remember and max sharpness because it looks fine. No stairs or artifacts. Just great . I omitted Lumia1020 because of physically smaller sensor oversaturated images and smaller than N808 preview file 8mp of N808 vs 5 of 1020. Same with video quality. I recognised all of n808 images😎
Sometimes it's like that, other times it just looks natural and the s22 is over processed. Our eye is attracted to the extreme sharpness, but looking closer you can see that there isn't actually any more detail
Having owned a nokia lumia 920, 1020 and currently a s23 ultra...all i can say is i miss my pureviews Nokia. I believe overall they took better pictures more often the only drawback was the processor at the time being slow due to the 40mega pixels. Till this date my Nokia have taken the best pictures notcto mention they were awesome and flawless in low light conditions
Lmao, still can't beat the 1020. It has some edging, but it doesn't even come close in terms of image reality. In the spotting contest, i didn't lose once, because of this. All i had to do was spot the fake output, the industrial feel of the images and dismiss that as S22, then out of the remaining two, i had to choose the better image, thus finding the 1020. A shame Nokia isn't interested in returning to the market and leaving it to HMD to muddle up. Right now, if they bent the horse backwards and brought at least the heads and key team players from before the time Micro and extremely Soft infiltrated the company via the CEO, and put forth a tenth of the nutty flavor, and quality, they'd make bank. The world is just about done with copy/pasta phones that are just endless remixes of the same flavor of old, soggy noddles that aren't even able to hold noodle form anymore.
Я с Nokia все фото в слепом тесте определил. У Самсунга фото резкие, у Ноклы как будто не в фокусе. И с 808 фотографии постоянно зеленят. К тому же программно современные смартфоны делают хорошо HDR фото. Посмотрите как Самсунг вытянул тени из небоскрёба. На обеих же Нокиях небоскрёб же просто чёрный объект.
nokia zies optics is more naturals shots what you see in human eye is what you get. this latest flagship of samsung is more gimik a camera trick. and yet this 2 old camera phone can still compete with all latest flagship smart phone now a days
Just imagine how Lumia photos could looks like if we have Lumia latest model in 2022. Lumia was 8 year ahead. Windows Phone was such a pleasure to use. So sad that there are gone. :(
Micosoft's CEO is a quitter, he turned Microsoft into a third party app supporter and cloud company for corporations. Then again what do you expect from people with MBAs? An MBA is the art of financial window dressing. Bill Gates can bring back Microsoft.
Even after so many years Nokia 1020 is still challenging.
I love that guessing game, what a great idea! This time, it wasn't hard that much... Once you take some pics with Lumias, you can recognize them when comparing.
Nokia era is d the best camera phone feature on all phones before for me. Imagine if nokia continue till now. They have the best camera phone ever. Im 101% sure
Even watching this video in 1080p, it's easy to tell just how realistic-looking both 808 and 1020 are. That's the reason why I just got myself the 1020 because I'm still impressed with its camera performance in 2022.
Setuju mas,bahkan lumia1020 saya jadi kamera saku sy setiap hari karena mmg hoby foto lingkungan alam,penggunaan yg mudah dan SDH awam foto pake model hp
@@balya8937 harganya sekarang kisaran berapa ya?
There is no need, I take all my photos raw with gcam, so I have a camera exactly as I want it.
the main problem with 1020 is wb, it always makes photo yellow or green
@@a1xm111 I notice that, but only in Auto. Change the WB, and it becomes completely different.
I still use Nokia 1020 as my pocket camera every day
Hii
My goodness. In the beginning, I thought this video was useless as there was no way any decade-old phone would be able to compete with the s22 ultra. Nokia 808 wasn't that good. But Lumia 1020 is really good and I was surprised.
and the Lumia 950 can beat those 3 v:
@@carnero_rojo meanwhile 950xl
Wasn't that good? It's a 2010's phone camera, what are you talking about exactly? Look for ''iPhone 14 vs Nokia N808'' and see for yourself. It was decades ahead of it's time.
Nokia en su época estaba muy avanzado a todas las otras marcas
Saludos desde Mexico y aun tengo el Nokia 1020 y AUN EN PLENO 2023 FUNCIONA PERFECTO SU CAMARA Y SIGUE TOMANDO HERMOSAS FOTOS.
SALUDOS
Even though the lumia 1020 came out 9 years ago, it's doing great work. If nokia had not been sold, cell phone cameras would have been much better now.
Once Micro and Soft infiltrated Nokia to make the sale, it was a forgone conclusion. I knew that a-head was trouble from the moment he took seat. And what came of it? Yet another failure on Micro and Soft's part. Imagine being given a perfectly tuned Ferrari, and because you're a hick, the only thing you can possibly do with it... is take it to the demolition derby. Micro & Soft should've never been given the keys, Nokia wasn't for rednecks and useless hacks who rely on governments to keep their business running.
HMD just killed the Nokia brand with cheaply-made garbage phones.
I love and still use my Lumia 1020. If you can find on the Lumia 950/XL both had great optics and made some darn good images in their own right. All the Lumias work best in manual mode and like any camera once you know them well you can get some really good shots most modern phones mess up with the over-processing.
I'm so glad that the Nokia 1020 was the presenter for this video; it's great hearing the phone's take on things XD ;--)
@Geek's Table
I was choosing between 1020 and S22.
And i have also both 3 model phones.
I still prefer the 1020 and 808 for close shoot photos.
For High Distance Shoot Photos i Prefer S22 with 10x Optical Zoom.
I bought a new 808, and will also make some awesome content on it!
Awesome! It's so sad how crappy camera updates have been. Yes the ai and hdr is great. But sensor development has been garbage for years.
If only we could get the 808 sensor on a newer phone with ois. And keep its more mature natural processing. Especially if it had the dual aperture.
Or at least one of these current 50mp sensors be a regular bayer sensor.
There are physical limitations that cannot be overcome. The bigger the sensor is, the more space is required between it and the lens. That's why most of the progress has been on the software side. Some of the newer sensors do however manage to cram more pixels into their area - this Samsung one has a very high density.
@@JimmyTurboMods Wow....I had no idea there was size limitations or anything......
You're literally just playing into the money grabbing excuses of greedy multi billion dollar companies.
@@JimmyTurboMods they can always remove most of the cameras and leave only one main camera and make phone much much thicker to make space for better camera hardware and probably also battery.
@@jackskellington9570 Don't listen to James, the latest phones like Xiaomi Mi 12 Ultra has a bigger main sensor than the Pureview (1 inch v 1/1.2") and it also has 2 extra cameras, the ultra wide and 5x Telephoto. It's no a size problem, the issue is we started using Quad bayer sensors instead of Classic bayer, the benefits of which includes better HDR but the downside is that you don't gain resolution because essentially you are splitting one native pixel into quadrant i.e. Quad Pixel binning.
So the 50mp sensors you see today are really 12.5mp and the 108mp on the Samsung is really a 27mp sensor whereas the Toshiba made sensors in the Nokia phone were true 41mp (38mp effectively) sensors which result in more natural Sharpness and detail vs the fake added Sharpness in modern smartphones.
@@CallMeRabbitzUSVI Exactly.
From Sistore it's possible to get some hdr apps for Nokia 808 pureview and who gives very good results especially for night shots
I had one 10 years ago. I'm going to buy a 2nd hand one after this video.
Used 1020 , 925 & 1520.
Really loved windows phone but sadly that just died.
I had Lumia 1020 and 950XL, what a feeling!
Even after so many years Nokia 808 is still challenging
Nokia 808, my best chới cameraphone.
damn, that lumia 1020 performance 🤯
Nokia has still the best caption photos and can compete the other brand flagship smartphone ❤️👈
can anybody please explain why the photo i shot using 1020 with flash on (shoting a spinning fan) is better compared to s22 ultra same with flash on ? ( i even tried manual and low exposure, iso etc) still the 1020 shot is much better
Nokia 808 and 1020 have a Xenon flash. This is the same type of flash used on "real" cameras.
Modern phones use LED flash, and it's more of a torch these days as people just use night mode
With s22, maybe try manuial mode, turn the iso up a little and the shutter speed quicker
The 808 have the biggest image sensor out of all
Excellent video
Посмотрел все снимки, ошибся в 3 снимках, из за криво снятых. А так все просто берешь самый лучший натуральны снимок и это 100% nokia 808. Одно исправление для автора ролика, красивее не значит правильней, самый красивый снимок это всегда самый естественный снимок, и то что там приходится красок добавлять не делает фото красивее, это иллюзия красоты не более
WoW 😱! Nokia Lumia 1020 41mp 📸 still clean and closer to Samsung galaxy s22 ultra catch up. Unbelievable 🤯 & maybe Nokia 1020📱 will unheated for 🍏i📱's camera 📸
i like your all content!
Now we need this with the s23 ultra
That's the power of Carl Zeiss optics.
Petition to bring back old lumia 1020
I got 100% correct. LOL, too easy. Nokia really likes white balance towards green/yellow. HDR is bad too. NO sharpness. 808 is really a great camera. I really want to buy an 808 to finish my Nokia collection.
i have both Nokia pure view 808 and Lumia 1020 i kept them as brand new phone i love them now i have vivo x100 pro.🥰🥰
I still use Nokia 808 as my pocket camera every day
beautiful content
I had both Nokia phones and they're the beasts.
I was not a big fan of Lumia phones,but Nokia 1020 is still the best on photo camera on mobiles.
Samsung S22 ultra, without AI, is just a smartphone...if you want a real advanced camera smartphone go get Xperia Pro or Xperia 1 IV...
LE FOTO DEL NOKIA 808 SONO LE PIU' BELLE...!!!! OLTRE AD ESSERE LE MIGLIORI... PRATICAMENTE SIAMO FERMI DA 10/12 ANNI....CHE TRISTEZZA....
I believe, you can shoot RAW with 808 using third party camera app. The Camera Pro app?
Man i wish Windows phone was still around.. Nokia devices from that time were so amazing build quality, still hold up. Those cameras also pretty damn good all these years later, for me s22 was not best in every photo guessing :D but in ~70% i did choose s22 ultra
windows is a crap, the last true nokia was N9
Slight correction, Nokia Lumia 1020 has much bigger sensor than Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra
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How is this Nokia's are still in business.. How is this Nokia's 1020 is better than S22 in some ways... Still challenging, Amazing
If i compare all of the pics:
Nokia 808 pureview: 9
S22 Ultra: 5
Nokia lumia 1020: 4
Tbh nokia lumia looked the best. But i liked the slight red and white tint on the nokia 808 pureview. And s22 ultra is just clean. Kinda boring.
They called it pureview for a reason. I get it now.. the colour science is on point, zero compromise.. 1020 very very close.. Samsung to me looks quite artificial..
808 is better than Samsung some conditions
Nokia808 still unbeaten atleast by my two phones vivo5 2017, and redminote10pro 2021 midrange phone
When you zoom in the result images looks like pixelated over saturation but convenient unlike the 808 natural color but you need good angle coz sometimes blurry and dark results without software processor to make it sharp
I guessed 97% of the pictures correct.
If you know how to use it N808 is still the best. Images looks like taken with analog camera. I can not find better quality. There is no HDR but who needs HDR? But there are sharpness, saturation, and contrast sliders so you can create, control almost any kind of situation. 8mp images looks better than any today's flagship. Yes it has some limitations but I never missed any action.Dedicated camera button, xenon flash that freeze any action. Square sensor that records FHD video horizontaly independent of how you hold the camera. Mechanical shutter,ND filter.who needs more. Mine is stile close to me. I switched to Lumia 950XL great Raw's but horrible jpgs, far behind of N808. Then Huawei p30pro-huge disappointment. Shutter lag in pro mode etc. Absolutely useless for action, ugly artificial overprocessd images. Now S23U. Expert RAW is kind of joke.Samsung and other companies treats customers like stupid, blind as...les.Sometime cheap phones takes better images than so called flagships. Still Nokia, Xiaomi. Probably the only choice for photography is Sony 1V but I don't like screen proportions.
Did I mentioned about video of Nokia 808? I saw few videos a week ago.Looks like taken with pro camera. Detail on shadows and light. Beautiful grain.
My settings EV -0.3, contrast and saturation -1 if I remember and max sharpness because it looks fine. No stairs or artifacts. Just great . I omitted Lumia1020 because of physically smaller sensor oversaturated images and smaller than N808 preview file 8mp of N808 vs 5 of 1020. Same with video quality. I recognised all of n808 images😎
Very late to the comments..
But it was easy spotting the Nokia phones.that green/ yellow tint and the soft looking photos,it was a constant problem.
Sometimes it's like that, other times it just looks natural and the s22 is over processed. Our eye is attracted to the extreme sharpness, but looking closer you can see that there isn't actually any more detail
Samsung is always over sharpened
Nokia на 15 лет опередила свое время
Nokia nasıl piyasadan silindi çok merak ediyorum
🤔
В Nokia изоляционная камера отлично😮
Having owned a nokia lumia 920, 1020 and currently a s23 ultra...all i can say is i miss my pureviews Nokia. I believe overall they took better pictures more often the only drawback was the processor at the time being slow due to the 40mega pixels. Till this date my Nokia have taken the best pictures notcto mention they were awesome and flawless in low light conditions
I like 💗 Lumia 1020 and I want in 2023 please 🙏
Mi bhi second hend Quaker she Nokia 1020magwaya hai one week me aajayega❤❤❤
Imaging comparing a Samsung phone from 2013 also 😅
808 omg
Nl1020 foreeeeeeeer!)))
Lmao, still can't beat the 1020. It has some edging, but it doesn't even come close in terms of image reality. In the spotting contest, i didn't lose once, because of this. All i had to do was spot the fake output, the industrial feel of the images and dismiss that as S22, then out of the remaining two, i had to choose the better image, thus finding the 1020.
A shame Nokia isn't interested in returning to the market and leaving it to HMD to muddle up. Right now, if they bent the horse backwards and brought at least the heads and key team players from before the time Micro and extremely Soft infiltrated the company via the CEO, and put forth a tenth of the nutty flavor, and quality, they'd make bank. The world is just about done with copy/pasta phones that are just endless remixes of the same flavor of old, soggy noddles that aren't even able to hold noodle form anymore.
I miss my 1020😭😭🫶
Lumia 1020 and pureview 808 doesn't have ai
Я с Nokia все фото в слепом тесте определил. У Самсунга фото резкие, у Ноклы как будто не в фокусе. И с 808 фотографии постоянно зеленят. К тому же программно современные смартфоны делают хорошо HDR фото. Посмотрите как Самсунг вытянул тени из небоскрёба. На обеих же Нокиях небоскрёб же просто чёрный объект.
NOKIA WAS WAY AHEAD OF ITS TIMES
Nokia en iyisidir
SAMSUNG OR ANDROID IN GENERAL IS NOTORIOUS IN TAKING OVER SATURATED PICTURES WHILE THE LUMIAS AND IPHONES TAKE NEAR REAL LIFE COLORS
What editing software was that?
Thanks!
That’s CaptureOne. You’re welcome!
Samsung's pictures was too saturated and very sharp compares to both Nokia. And Lumia 1020 picture have better light capture compared to 808.
What it will be look like if Nokia make 108Mp camera but so sad they are gone
Nokia Phone are so good an there are so old 👍
Goooo versus huavei p50pro vs Nokia Lumia 1020 )
5.18 😮 wtf
1020
I need lumia 1020
How much price
5k
But still 22 is superior
Samsung s22
I wish nokia wouldn't fall,it may b the kingbof smart phone market
Here im guessed all of they correctly im die hard fan of nokia
halos on 1020 and s22 really ugly.... 808 still kicking butt of that two phone in daylight is insane, 2011 phone
самсунг тут сразу видно! где кроп, в котором самсунг рассыпится на пиксели? 808 и 1020 идентичны! это мои любимые телефоны!
ни разу не угадал(
Lumia 1020
7:26
nokia zies optics is more naturals shots what you see in human eye is what you get. this latest flagship of samsung is more gimik a camera trick. and yet this 2 old camera phone can still compete with all latest flagship smart phone now a days
808 pureview is best of camera phone
Ai software help samsung 50 hardware 50 but 808 use hardware 80 software 20
Different performance but currently smartphones still defeat.
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Mi bhi second hend Quaker she Nokia 1020magwaya hai one week me aajayega❤❤❤