Unleashing CyberTruck: Conquering a 7,000 lb Travel Trailer
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- čas přidán 12. 06. 2024
- The Tesla CyberTruck has a towing capacity of 11,000 lbs and payload capacity of 2,500 lbs. I towed my 33' long 7,000 lb travel trailer for a 110 mile loop run to see how the CyberTruck faired. There are some positives and negatives.
0:00 Intro
0:36 Hitching
6:14 Towing to Destination
6:48 Pull Through SuperCharger
7:33 Range and Charge Stats
8:56 Towing back Home Updated Stats
9:30 Towing to Scales
9:40 Scales
10:28 Final Thoughts
11:44 Final Stats
12:50 Outro
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The demonstration of Cyber Truck towing is amazing. This is very cool.
Thank you 😁
I agree!!! 👍👍👍
I've been waiting for this tow demonstration. Thanks Eric! You're taking Cybertruck content to the next level! Keep it up! I'm going to finish watching the video now, sooo good!!!!
I appreciate you and your continued support. Let me know if you ever want to collaborate
@@Butter_EV , I'm always down for collaboration. I'm driving down to SoCal this weekend (i live in the Bay Area), I assume you are in SoCal, right? There are tons of stuff we can create content on. Do you have experience with other Tesla? We can compare your Cybertruck with my 2023 MYP! Do you have experience with TESLA FSD? I have FSD on my MYP, and you can see how that is... so you can see what you have coming your way. Let's collaborate!
Weird to drive uphill, charge to 100%, and then drive downhill. A full charge keeps you from recovering potential energy to charge the battery vis regen, which is a huge benefit over ICE vehicles and saves the brakes. Your efficiency downhill should be way better if you left some room in the battery.
You’re 100% correct. Tbh I didn’t think of that at that time. I was just trying to show how long it would take to get a full charge. I appreciate the watch and support
This is the best video yet showing towing. Great job and thank you!
Thank you. I really appreciate the kind words
Looks great, prefect setup!
Thank you
Found your channel and love just seeing your experience using and experimenting with the truck, and that wrap color is off the chain! If I could make one suggestion, could you show the actual "percent" state of charge when you run the tests? Looking at the estimated mileage tends to make things more convoluted. Thanks! Keep it up!
I am realizing that most use the percentage rather than stated miles. I’ll show both moving forward. Thank you for the watch and feedback!
Nice!!!
Thanks
So the math if I understood this using 317 miles as a full charge
uphill 57 miles = 222 miles used so almost quadruple
downhill 57 miles = 120 miles used so basically double
with a standard 40min-ish stop you will be able to get to 80% charge but obviously reduce your range and most won't risk running it to zero
317 / 4 = 79 miles going to 0
317 / 2 = 158 miles
These numbers would be drastically worse if it wasn't 60+ degrees out
The CT is probably best used for regional travel or hauling a boat to the local marina
Yes I totally agree. The CT is not the ideal vehicle for long tow trips. We do a lot of local, 20-200 mile round trip, camping so the CT will work for us. Now we also do at least one long trip every year. That’s when I’ll use my Ram
Need to show what the backup camera looks like when hooking up to a trailer… I know my F-350 with the camera makes it super easy to backup and hit the hitch almost perfect every time! Thanks for the Video!😊
I can do that when I hook up later today. I’m camping this weekend so I’ll have that video up next week. Thanks for the watch and support
Ford Super Duty F series 💪
@@bobbybishop5662Ram 😉
@@Butter_EV I like them too. They make some bad ass looking trucks .
Tbh, I was a little offended by the charge rate. But nonetheless, this is ideal amount of time to rest up, take a break, and check your truck/trailer, reducing fatigue and increasing safety for yourself and others on the road.
I always wondered, why not just drop the trailer and charge, but those pull-through chargers are convenient.
Also, assuming speeds were averaging 55mph, curious to see the efficiency out of California lines.
I agree, whether I’m in my Ram or an EV we always take a 30-45 min restroom/eating break. Tesla really needs to add A LOT more pull thru charging stalls. Plus they need to give us a way of identifying those stalls in the app or via the interior screen
@@Butter_EV If enough interest for stall identification is received by Elon on X, it may just be another OTA away. I’m not up to date with charging infrastructure, but there should be some in the works to accommodate the Semi. And assuming CTs would also be allowed to charge at these locations.
Those rest and refueling stops are normally after a few hundred miles, not every 100 or less,. I drive to Mammoth and stop once for as long as it takes to fill my tank, that's what most people do. Face it, EV's are great for running around town or moderate commutes (if you have home charging), but they are horrible for road trips and towing/hauling anything over a hundred miles.@@Butter_EV
@@vertstang123 I totally agree that an ICE vehicle is best suited for long tow/haul trips, hence why I still have my Ram 3500. I’ll be using the CT for local camping and the Ram for longer destinations. But I am encouraged with how well the CT actually tows the trailer, just needs more range
It would be a lot better if you charged only to 80% or so. Literally would be 1/2 the time vs charging to full. Every EV will slow down the charge rate dramatically for that last 20%
did you weigh the truck and trailer separately, or just weigh each axle to get the weight numbers? If they were still hooked together you'd have the tongue weight of the trailer transferred to the truck.
I actually weighed them together and then dropped the trailer, drove off the scale to get the trailers true weight
Nice video what % were you at when you started to charge? How long would to take to get to 80%
I goofed and did show the percentage I was at when I started charging. I was almost at full charge when we started the trip and I used 77kwh so I’d say I was around 35% left. I’ll be towing again this weekend and I’ll document the whole charging experience in more detail to show time it takes to get to 60, 70 and 80%
Does the CT charge your trailer while you drive? My friend towed a 2200 lb trailer with a Model Y and his trailer was dead after arriving at the campsite 230-miles away, due to the need to charge 3 times at SuperChargers to make it. What should have been a 4-hour trip ended up being an 8-hour trip with charging coupled with unhooking and rehooking up the trailer each time.
Yes, when you connect the trailer to your tow vehicle the truck should keep your batteries charged.
The biggest issue with having your tow vehicle being an EV is not range but the amount of pull through charging stalls and how to find these stalls. Don’t get me wrong range is a big issue but having these stalls more readily available along with the ability to find them really needs to improve.
The first 30min will get you to 80%. The last 30min gets you the last 20%. Always quicker than to NOT charge to 100% unless you really have to based on distance to your next charger.
You’re 100% correct. I was just playing it safe and charging to 100 this time
We have a similar size travel trailer and I’m really curious what the efficiency for the CT is at different speeds. 70 mph vs 60 mph is about a 20% reduction in gas used on our half ton tow vehicle.
We went camping this past weekend and I went 55mph, California 😒, on the way there and 60-65mph on the way back. This way we can see what the change in speed does to the efficiency
regarding your scale numbers, I think you're missing the fact that with your weight distribution connected, you're transferring weight from the trailer to your truck, which explains why your trailer appeared to be lighter than you expected and your truck appeared to be heavier than you expected.
I unhitched the trailer at the scales and weighed the trailer separately
Your video showed you charge to 100% at Monrongo with 317 rated miles. Have you done that multiple times and does it always show about 317? Also, when you charge to 80% what do you normally show as rated miles (is this normally your daily charge?). Thanks.
Yes a full charge is 317-318 miles. I charge it at home to 80% which gives me 254 miles
@@Butter_EV ok, but that's totally not correct, right? Like, can you please tell us the real numbers? How many miles did you ACTUALLY drive and how much of your range did that use? I'd be shocked if you got more than 150 miles of range on a charge.
You're reading your CAT ticket wrong. The trailer weight is JUST the weight on the trailer axles. You have some of that weight on your trailer toungue, which goes to the Cybertruck. So thats why the Cybertruck seems like it weighs more than its supposed to, and also why the trailer seems like it weighs less that its supposd to. The CT is taking some of the weight of the trailer on the rear wheels of your CT.
You are right but that’s why I unhooked the trailer and weighed it separately
heck yeah, better than filling up a 36 gallon tank at 170 bucks (4.80)
Ain’t that the truth
So averaging you're up and down the hill. What was your estimated total range while towing that load?
Uphill I could get 90 miles on a full charge. Downhill I would get 159 miles on a full charge. For an average of 124.5 miles for the round trip. I’m camping this weekend and will be towing 95 miles each way. Stay tuned for that video
Instead of tow mirrors which cut range, how about tow cameras? Do you think that would work.
If there was a way to integrate the camera view into the center screen then yes. Otherwise it can be an issue. I have a Furrion backup camera mounted on my trailer but I cannot use it as it plugs into a cigarette lighter which the CyberTruck lacks 😔
Did you get a different wrap for it? This looks darker than the metallic sheen in other videos.
Same wrap. It kinda changes it’s look depending on the way light hits it
Love it! I think I want the same. Cna you divulge what it is called? thnx@@Butter_EV
@@gentrydavidson Brushed Black Metallic by 3M
This video deserves to be shared across all social media platforms. Let's make it viral!
I appreciate that 🙌🏼
So what’s the deal with the wdh? What did you find out. Yay or nay ?
Nay, due to the CT being a unibody
Clean wrap. What color is that?
Brushed Black Metallic
Nice. Should put a Raiders decal on it ☠️🤘🏽
I thought about it ☠️ maybe down the road
If I understand you correctly, you started with 308 "miles of range", then drove 110 miles towing 7000 lbs. with a substantial gain in elevation, and you ended with 94 "miles of range". 308-94=214 rather than 110 miles, so you clearly didn't get the range the vehicle estimated. That's understandable, but I'm more interested in the actual range extrapolated to a full battery. You got a bit more than half of the estimated mileage on the first leg of the trip, so I'd expect the vehicle to travel around 160 miles with a full charge under these conditions, similar to what I've seen in other towing range tests.
Yes you are right. I have an upcoming camping video where I tow 95 miles one way and I think I could've gone another 50-60 miles. Stay tuned for that video
Thanks for the video, could you try shorter charges next time? Like lets say to 60% 70% or 80%?
I think what I’ll do is record the charging to show how long it take to get to each “milestone”
@@Butter_EV cool! A good one is a trip to Vegas, but without the trailer.
@@lrod8692don’t temp me with a good time 😂
@@Butter_EV hahaha...you just got an update? time to test those charging speeds again
Yes I do 😉
I wonder if smaller diameter tires (i.e 32”) will increase the efficiency of the CT?
I would imagine that it would. But these 35s look soooo good in person
@@Butter_EV Yeah, I love the big diameter tires too, but it would be interesting to see how much more efficient smaller tires would be when towing since it would be like lower gearing and that the fact that electric motors are very sensitive to where their rpm/loading range is. Keep up the great videos!
@@gogianyee5002 I’m definitely interested in this as well. Maybe the guys at TSportline or Unplugged could help me test this out
Great job on this educational video. When doing another test down the road, I would like to see you run the same trip without the trailer. Then do the run hooked up to the trailer. Then compare KWH and miles exc. Thanks.
In the future we’re gunna look back and laugh about 1hr+ to charge up 😅
You’re not wrong
What was the cost for the trip and what would your diesel have cost. My model 3 sr+ battery size is 50 kw. it 😢 and 2.6 gallons of gas. If you compare gas to it. At 22 cent it would be 27 06 to fill up at home how far can your diesel go on 27 dollars. At 4.99 for diesel. How far can you go on 5..4 gallons.
My diesel gets about 10MPG with my trailer. I have a 32 Gallon tank. So 320 miles on a full tank. Give or take. This loop run cost me roughly $65 between the SC and my home charging. That would be equivalent to about $55 in diesel gas
@@Butter_EV is you truck stock or using a runner. I run banks on my 05. Get 12 to 14 depending on the right foot pull my 30 ft toy hauler .
Gas is actually 33.7kwhs per gallon and road diesel is 37.9kwhs per gallon for total energy density.
We the ct has less than 4 gallons of gas or 3.5 gallons of diesel in total available energy onboard.
Per the op his diesel ram with the same exact amount of energy could then go 35 miles from completely full to empty vs 120+average for the ct.
Really impressive result here for 14,000+# of combined truck&trailer weight with 35" at's in an awd 600+hp rig at hwy speeds.
A ram trx or raptor r ice equivelant truck would go maybe 25 miles using the same exact amount of energy. 😀👍🏻
@@LaJuanHughes stock
@@4literv6 wow this is great info 👏🏼 I appreciate you breaking it down like this
Charging it till the 80 is way more efficient in time wise
Yes, I’ll be towing on my camping trip this weekend and I’ll document the charging experience a little better this time. Stay tuned
I still don't understand why trailers cannot be built with under the floor Tesla-like batteries that could be used to greatly extend the range of the Cybertruck and provide electrical power for the trailer as well. Maybe even a small motor under the trailer to help the wheels turn. Would make going uphill a breeze.
Using trailer mounted batteries to drive the truck would require a charging port near the hitch. The connector for lights and brakes is not bi-directional nor high power.
So you’re definitely on to something. There are multiple companies who are making trailers with independent motors and battery packs. I’ve reached out to them so I can do a video but they don’t get back to me 😔
I have air suspension on my truck. I just raise the truck to hook up.
Nice! I think I’ll try that next time
Probably not a good idea to use a WDH on a Cybertruck since it has no frame. You're just stressing the part of the unibody where the hitch is installed. Also with the air suspension there shouldn't be any sag on the rear axle anyway.
Ok so this is an interesting topic. When Andre from TFL came over I asked his this and he disagreed. He says that I should always use a WDH. I think I need to dive deeper into this.
What did you find out?
Maybe don't use an impact drill, then it won't be so noisy... lol
Yes that darn impact drill is so loud 🤣
@@Butter_EV lol much cheaper than a self rising and lowering trailer.
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@@Butter_EV lol
@@ItsBinhRepaired I tow as well and I use a normal powered electric screwdriver/drill. It looks the same as this but it’s not an impact driver and doesn’t have the loud clicking. Try that out and your neighbors/ campmates will thank you. I would be livid if somebody was setting up camp next to me at a campground with an impact drill. 😂
GO TESLA GO🦾🤠
We're doing it!! Airstream video is releasing tomorrow if thats of interest 😁
I wonder if the lucid air is a better towing vehicle really
🤷🏻♂️
1 miles / kWh for all pickup ev.
Yes, this is what I have seen with the Rivian and lightning
I can tow 19,000 something pounds so I’m confused about the hype
My Ram could do 20,000+ but that weight capacity isn’t for the typical weekend warrior
Tow mirrors. Tow mirrors. Tesla wants no mirrors. Good luck with that.
Yes but the current mirrors are easily removable so I can see someone making aftermarket mirrors for those who tow
My 2013 F150 pulls my 6.5 k off road caravan just fine with a tow range of 400 miles! The 2013 F-150 is reliable, functional and paid for! Lets see where that Cyber Thing is in 11 years!👈🤣
We shall see
1:15 minutes to charge to 100% is abysmal compared to the 2018 model 3 that charged 0 to 100% in 40 minutes. This thing is 6 years newer in innovation! What innovation? 4680s are a disappointment.
Keep in mind the difference in battery size. It takes longer because you have more to fill up. It’s like a Honda Civic having a 15 gallon gas tank vs my Ram 3500 with a 32 gallon tank. The Ram will take longer to fill
@Butter_EV I realize that, but my model 3 charges at 1000 mph without tab-less cells. These 4680s were supposed to have next level thermal performance. The CT with 123KW battery should charge at 350kwh to be the same as the M3. If it was better it should be able to take two 250KWh charges at once and sustain 500KWh longer. There is nothing better about the 4680 other than, maybe, cost. My order is near 183,000th, but I am unimpressed with the battery system.
@@dglennon20 I totally see where you are coming from and you are not wrong. But I do think that Tesla hasn’t unlocked the full potential of the 4680s yet, or at least I hope not. I think this is a more wait and see type of situation 🤞🏼
@@Butter_EV I hope you are right. I really do. Hopefully they do by the time they call me. Some of the other engineering in that truck is next level though. You do make some great real world use videos! Thank you.
So about 4-minutes to fill the Civic and 8-minutes to fill the Ram@@Butter_EV . The new 2025 Ramcharger that has electric drive and 690-miles of range with the 130 kWh generator on-board will be a fantastic stepping stone for towing and eliminates the drastic range loss affecting BEVs currently when towing.
I think you just reconfirmed that towing with an EV is not a very good idea. You went 57 miles and had to sit for an hour and fifteen minutes to charge. Drag that thing to Mammoth and give us a report please.
This is a great truck but it’s definitely not a long haul vehicle. Great Mammoth idea 🤔