METALLICA VS. MEGADETH

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    Intro: 0:00
    The Beginning: 0:53
    "No warning? No second chance?": 4:30
    Lying is Dave's business: 6:25
    Metallica fights fire with fire: 10:50
    Everybody (Dave) Hates Kirk™: 15:19
    "Metallica, like, sold out maaaaan!": 20:52
    Dave Mustaine VS Kirk Hamett: 25:53
    Dave Mustaine VS James Hetfield: 29:50
    Comparing the records: 30:45
    Kill 'Em All VS Killing Is My Business... And Business Is Good!: 32:56
    ...And Justice For All VS So Far, So Good... So What!: 34:45
    Ride The Lightning/ Master Of Puppets VS Peace Sells/ Rust In Peace: 36:44
    The Black Album VS Countdown To Extinction: 38:23
    Load/ Reload VS Youthanasia/ Cryptic Writings: 40:22
    St. Anger VS Risk: 44:37
    Death Magnetic, Hardwired To Self Destruct, 72 Seasons: 46:14
    The People VS Dave Mustaine: 48:20
    Wrap-up: 52:00
    #Metallica #Megadeth #DaveMustaine
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Komentáře • 354

  • @ScoopedMids
    @ScoopedMids  Před 9 měsíci +29

    Which band do YOU prefer?

    • @matin5204
      @matin5204 Před 9 měsíci +31

      Megadeth of course but metallica is really good

    • @alphawolf8503
      @alphawolf8503 Před 9 měsíci +15

      I gotta go with megadeth because there discography is so much better metallica hasn't realised a good album since 91 but megadeth have put out good albums post 90's
      But if you ask me which band do I perfer while the bands are in there prime's I would say metallica

    • @mr.kalidascope589
      @mr.kalidascope589 Před 9 měsíci +20

      In my opinion megadeth

    • @elliottoneill785
      @elliottoneill785 Před 9 měsíci

      the 90s albums where the only good ones and metallica has released dm and hardwired which are both good albums@@alphawolf8503

    • @GuitarNeckMk
      @GuitarNeckMk Před 9 měsíci +19

      MegadetH.

  • @ponzo1967
    @ponzo1967 Před 8 měsíci +159

    As a guitarist if I had to learn ten Metallica songs and ten Megadeath songs the Megadeth songs would take 3x longer to learn.

    • @Taxable_Trophy
      @Taxable_Trophy Před 6 měsíci +17

      Complexity doesn’t mean better 😂😂 I can bet you anything that if it was a competition on making complex stuff, James is way better at that. Dave riffs are simple but just fast

    • @diltberg9627
      @diltberg9627 Před 6 měsíci +6

      Yeah so and your point. Just because Megadeth are better at playing their instruments doesn't mean their music is better

    • @ponzo1967
      @ponzo1967 Před 6 měsíci +6

      I've listened to a lot more Metallica since 1983 than Megadeth just like the public in general. The point about complexity is just that , Mustain is a more accomplished player and some people respect and appreciate that, it doesn't mean everything. James has a more acceptable singing voice to most people and that sells records.

    • @Taxable_Trophy
      @Taxable_Trophy Před 5 měsíci

      @@daronbrown8076 yeah intricate means better apparently 😂😂 no offense but you are the most un educated 25 year old related to guitar.

    • @Septicshites
      @Septicshites Před 5 měsíci +7

      @@Taxable_Trophy the holy wars verse riff is better than any metallica riff and im a metallica fan your wrong

  • @thechancesr2853
    @thechancesr2853 Před měsícem +5

    Picking those 3 Metallica albums over albums like Dystopia, Endgame and TSTDATD makes me wanna pull my hair out of my head

  • @mcathawk1490
    @mcathawk1490 Před 6 měsíci +25

    Dave just says stuff, sometimes true, sometimes not, but one thing about Dave….he’s an amazing guitar player and songwriter, and without getting kicked out of Metallica we never would have the catalogue of Megadeth, which we all love.

    • @billydenham9313
      @billydenham9313 Před 3 měsíci

      You got that right. Dave is an awesome song writer & guitar player. People need to really look back at the Metallica albums. If it were not for Mustaine & Bob Rock there probably wouldn't be a Metallica.

    • @Septicshites
      @Septicshites Před 3 měsíci +2

      dave is much more grounded now too for the better lol

  • @edatube7616
    @edatube7616 Před 9 měsíci +40

    Now I want an Ozzy vs. Dio ERB lmao

  • @jons.4918
    @jons.4918 Před 7 měsíci +31

    Never cared about who was better or the fighting between the two bands. I love heavy metal and there are a lot of great bands out young and old. I’m 52 years old and lived through all of it and happy to see that it is still alive today and seeing kids today embrace it. Keep the Heavy Fkin Metal Heart beating.🤘🏼❤

  • @visitor5451
    @visitor5451 Před 9 měsíci +39

    James being surprised that Dave is still living in a non-reality is the realest shit I've ever heard James say.

  • @easternag16
    @easternag16 Před 8 měsíci +16

    22:01
    I swear Dave just said "I farted eggs from mistakes"

  • @devonmiller113
    @devonmiller113 Před 8 měsíci +56

    I think Metallica’s first 4 albums are absolutely legendary but overall I think Megadeth has consistently edged them out in terms of consistency in song writing and song quality and just sheer talent musically. But generally I prefer Megadeth since their music tends to be a little more innovative technically and not absolutely blown out like Metallicas music. There’s only so much master of puppets and ride the lightning you can hear in your life before you tend to want to move on.

    • @dookester.manoftruth7773
      @dookester.manoftruth7773 Před 6 měsíci +3

      This is the best way to explain my opinion on both bands I have loved and compared one stop, since listening to both of them.
      You articulated my opinion on superb fashion, brotha.
      My favorite album has always been 'Kill 'em All'... No coincidence that half of that album was MegaDave and the other was Metallica's brothers Lars and James. The first Metallica album was a masterpiece that I still enjoy now as much as when I did having first bought it, decades ago.
      Overall, I do prefer Megadave for the same reasons you stated.

    • @prongATO
      @prongATO Před 5 měsíci +1

      You eloquently typed every thought I have about it. /chefs kiss

  • @ImPhynsa
    @ImPhynsa Před 9 měsíci +26

    Load and Reload are good hard rock records I will die on this hill

    • @ScoopedMids
      @ScoopedMids  Před 9 měsíci +16

      Well, at least you're dead.

    • @FrancisTheBerd
      @FrancisTheBerd Před 9 měsíci +2

      ​@@ScoopedMids💀

    • @Skycladatdusk78
      @Skycladatdusk78 Před 9 měsíci +7

      I agree, as the years go by I appreciate Load more and more. When it came out I was 18 and hated most of it, but over the years I get more what they were going for.

    • @ponzo1967
      @ponzo1967 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Some great Metallica songs on both albums. I liked Reload better and both have some less than impressive songs but to dismiss those recordings is simply missing out on some great music.

    • @emolga3147
      @emolga3147 Před 7 měsíci +2

      straight facts, Load > Kill 'Em All

  • @alexpinet3503
    @alexpinet3503 Před 9 měsíci +15

    Fuck, this video was such a good time. As a 20+ year fan of both these bands, I was pleasantly surprised to learn we share many same opinions, both about the bands’ music and their members. Keep up the great work; huge fan of your stuff!

  • @kapitanleutnantschneider2076
    @kapitanleutnantschneider2076 Před 5 měsíci +7

    I love both bands.
    I am also weird because I actually like Risk and St.Anger.
    I'm actually glad I came across this video because about 90% of your analysis is on point and fair. Very good job job my dude.

  • @mcathawk1490
    @mcathawk1490 Před 6 měsíci +23

    There is no “sell out”. These are musicians that don’t want to play the same exact stuff forever. Whenever Metallica plays Load, Reload, or St. Anger stuff live these days, the crowd goes crazy and it sounds incredible live!

    • @Asbestoseater23
      @Asbestoseater23 Před 5 měsíci

      yeah, its not sell out when you make your sound more mainstream and and not what you sounded before

    • @JPR17
      @JPR17 Před 4 měsíci

      I.dont have a problem with bands going mainstream, why not? The problem is if the songs are good and if the musicians still care to practice and be better.

    • @jimifritz
      @jimifritz Před 2 měsíci

      Those are the weekend warriors that know nothing about metal, or so called posers

  • @warnerbasement1628
    @warnerbasement1628 Před 6 měsíci +10

    In hindsight I have to give it to Megadeth. The fact that Mustaine is still alive is miraculous. But those albums from 1988 to today hold up -- in like a jazz way -- and while Metallica's first 4 are phenomenal, they've had a near 30 years streak of meh at best.
    I look at Mustaine like an addicted jazz musician/band leader -- brilliant, flawed, difficult, genius -- who managed to not kill himself and create some timeless complex but still approachable metal along the way and it's appeal had only grown on me over the years.
    So Megadeth hands down the better band.

  • @escherpainting8622
    @escherpainting8622 Před 9 měsíci +8

    The System has Failed lowkey buries Metallica entire re-thrash output.

  • @ThaShikushi
    @ThaShikushi Před 8 měsíci +13

    I gotta give props to Lars and James, aside from some smack talk in the 80's, over 30 damn years ago, they always speak of Dave with respect, yet Dave constantly has to take jabs at Metallica in some way.
    I can understand why Dave was so bitter about getting kicked out, but after Metallica has tried to reconcile with him time and time again you'd think he could shut up about them. He's been back and forth about it for decades.
    Looking at interviews of Dave over the decades in general, he seems pretty all-over-the-place. Sometimes he's respectful, down-to-earth, and even says wise things now and then, but other times he's incredibly hostile and egotistical and says baffling things.
    I love Megadeth, but Dave is a real mixed bag. Though that's not to say the guys in Metallica have all been perfect, because no one is.

    • @samkornrumph8545
      @samkornrumph8545 Před 5 měsíci +4

      Yeah, I was watching a video from 1986 where Metallica went to a college radio station and answered phone calls from fans. Someone asked Lars about Dave/Megadeth and Lars said nothing but good things about Dave and how he was talking to Dave about Peace Sells, which hadn’t been released at the time.
      Dave’s awesome, but he seriously needs to stop complaining about getting kicked out of Metallica.

  • @captaindaddy4991
    @captaindaddy4991 Před 9 měsíci +19

    Great video. Megadeth wins for me, its close though. Anthrax has aged well and is now my favorite of the big 4.

    • @DJBuglip
      @DJBuglip Před 9 měsíci +1

      Agreed, Anthrax rules

    • @itburns805
      @itburns805 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Most definitely

    • @DogDooWinner
      @DogDooWinner Před 6 měsíci +1

      I've always liked anthrax more than both of them, with Anthrax thrown out, I preferred Megadeth. Slayer has the most output I still listen to constantly, just because I don't have a megadeth album after cryptic. I do not own a Metallica album after the black album. I have everything Slayer and Anthrax put out, but Slayer has more songs.

  • @xGolbezx
    @xGolbezx Před měsícem +2

    Everyone loves/hates a character, and Dave is certainly a character, it's part of what makes MegaDeth more interesting. Long live MegaDeth!

  • @faisalalmarri5736
    @faisalalmarri5736 Před 9 měsíci +8

    I prefer Megadeth. Because I don’t believe if any of the other band members was kicked out instead of Dave, they would have the same success and impact he has and still does

  • @krisorgan
    @krisorgan Před 6 měsíci +5

    Dave will be bitter til the day he dies. Personally I think it was the best thing that ever happened as I regard Megadeth as the superior band. To a man Dave is definitely the most talented outta of em all.

  • @briantatge7081
    @briantatge7081 Před 3 měsíci +2

    The Metallica/Megadeth fued was the greatest PR stunt in music history.

  • @jeremyt4292
    @jeremyt4292 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I do remember an interview with Metallica where James makes fun of Dave's vocals on symphony of destruction, he pinches his nose and does a real nasally high-pitched brief cover of part of it

  • @BasicallyVader
    @BasicallyVader Před 4 měsíci +4

    Megadeth wins in everything: Riffs, Solos, Drums, Bass, and even vocals (i love Mustaine's vocals for some weird reason).

  • @paulmayden7344
    @paulmayden7344 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I like both bands. But when I'm playing their music, Megadeth is much more sophisticated. It's well known that Cliff Burton was the one with the musical guts and experimentation ideas. After he died, Metallica took what they learned up to that point and basically took it as far as they could then just kind of tweak it from there. The fact that there's so many Megadeth members means that there's a LOT of different things in Megadeth music. Not because Dave's some kind of genius, even though he kind of is, but because there's so many different skills that come in and out that the music can't help but evolve. It's not as inbred.

  • @KingHammerhead-kd4eu
    @KingHammerhead-kd4eu Před 9 měsíci +6

    Watch Kirk play Megadeth and sing at the same time !! lol

  • @FairtradeFloyd
    @FairtradeFloyd Před 3 měsíci +1

    Thanks for showing me "Almost Honest"... awesome song!!! Load is awesome too :)

  • @nedeljkosatora6512
    @nedeljkosatora6512 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Great video! I would add that in my opinion James and Dave were the seed of hm. Lars was quintesential manager, he was probably the most important person in the hm scene. Not much of a drummer but a prophet of hm.

  • @houseofbrah8998
    @houseofbrah8998 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Great video....but one thing that was overlooked was there live shows....which would you prefer live?

  • @JoeyArmstrong2800
    @JoeyArmstrong2800 Před 8 dny

    The whole "Lars getting canned after the Master of Puppets tour" thing has some validity according to Scott Ian's conversation with Cliff and James that he states in his book, "I'm the Man".

  • @darkwizard545
    @darkwizard545 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Interesting video but I disagree with the last part. The last 2 Megadeth albums are more interesting and less boring than Metallica last albums which contain many long boring songs. Dystopia and The Sick...have more musical depth. They combine thrashy elements and aggressive riffs with some dark melodic surprises (the instrumental "Conquer or Die" or the ambient "Poisonous Shadows", the first dramatic part of "Dogs of Chernobyl") and experimental songs that cannot be considered sell-out like "Mission to Mars" which changes from a melodic hard rock to speed/thrash thunder instrumental part. The 2 last Megadeth albums are less predictable and more inspired overall. And of course the riff of The "Threat is Real" is by no means the same with the riff of "We'll Be Back" although they seem similar in the beginning. Even "Endgame" album which is considered the most explosive Megadeth album of the 00s has its atmospheric moments of unpredictability mainly with "The Hardest Part of Letting Go...Sealed with a Kiss" song (with its Edgar Allan Poe theme). "The System Has Failed" album has also aged well and contains similar elements of surprise.

  • @Cito-lx7fp
    @Cito-lx7fp Před 7 měsíci +1

    When will you create a Slipknot video? I love your honesty and your content is always worth watching. Hope you still create great videos, take care.

  • @kevinbailey4879
    @kevinbailey4879 Před 9 měsíci

    I been waiting for this. 😎

  • @lewisb85
    @lewisb85 Před 8 měsíci +4

    I have a theory that there were people in the Metallica camp (mutual friends etc) who didn't want to fall out with Dave who were feeding him what he wanted to hear, also apparently Dave ran into the Metallica guys not long after he formed megadeth at a party at the suicidal tendencies house Mike muir said that everyone was pretty chill with each other. So it makes me wonder if Dave saw the potential for money with a potential feud so just fed BS to the press.

  • @drewbrown2175
    @drewbrown2175 Před 9 měsíci

    I Subscribed to you over a year ago great content ! was wondering what your thoughts on Post-Punk music like bands like The Danse Society, The Chameleons, Asylum Party, and The Sound ?

  • @Koven_Sabbath
    @Koven_Sabbath Před 7 měsíci +3

    Im fan of both , Marty Friedman put it best Megadeth is Dave's music no matter what but he still pushes through and makes his music

  • @KabukiKid
    @KabukiKid Před 2 měsíci

    I was JUST saying the other day that Kirk's solo in "Fade to Black" is his best. I didn't know if I was the only one to feel that.

  • @danbryce8761
    @danbryce8761 Před 3 měsíci

    Great video!

  • @sr_birb9664
    @sr_birb9664 Před 6 měsíci +3

    This video is basically just shitting on Megadeth, which is valid, but there are as many things wrong with Megadeth than there are with Metallica. Like it wasn't just Dave who had a drinking problem, James went to rehab like twice for several months just to get sober.

    • @ScoopedMids
      @ScoopedMids  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Yeah but James wasn't violent, neurotic, and overall difficult to work with.

  • @user-qy1uz1iy6q
    @user-qy1uz1iy6q Před 2 měsíci +3

    Im proud of Dave, this video is trash.

  • @gentelmanjunkie542
    @gentelmanjunkie542 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Those leopard skin fingerless gloves with the tiger striped sleevless shirt @1:20...now that's metal.

  • @GhostSound2
    @GhostSound2 Před 9 měsíci +11

    I will probably go with Metallica. When I try to be objective,I almost always end up picking Megadeth because of better consistency and having Rust In Peace in their catalogue,which is to me a perfect thrash album. But when I go with my heart, it's always Metallica. I know all their missteps,I know all their faults and yet almost every album has a song that reminds me,why I love this band. Hell,I often appreciate songs that people don't care for. So yeah, my cold mind says Megadeth and my heart says Metallica. I will go with my heart here

  • @Six-Winged
    @Six-Winged Před 2 měsíci +2

    Countdown reigns Supreme over black album.. Dystopia laid to rest who is better in the songwriting spectrum.. Megadeth takes the Medal (Metal) trophy.

  • @pmtruckerpaul
    @pmtruckerpaul Před 17 dny +1

    I’m a huge fan of Dave, and buddy you nailed it. All the negative things about Dave is why I love Megadeth.

  • @tobiasblackmoar
    @tobiasblackmoar Před 9 měsíci +7

    Anthrax

    • @Sam-cm1pj
      @Sam-cm1pj Před 9 měsíci +1

      Real

    • @infernusrex796
      @infernusrex796 Před 9 měsíci +1

      HARD Agree!

    • @captaindaddy4991
      @captaindaddy4991 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Anthrax has aged very well. They have the best drummer of the big 4 and they seem like good guys.

    • @JPR17
      @JPR17 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Anthrax is good, but Exodus deserves that spot more than them.

  • @terryswitzer3538
    @terryswitzer3538 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Megadeth is my favorite band. I saw them in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Love it.

  • @dennisjordan4952
    @dennisjordan4952 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Rust in piece front to back is amazing

  • @semakavf
    @semakavf Před 17 dny +1

    I like it more MEGADETH. Until recently, I could not understand why METALLICA had changed since 1985, what was wrong with it. Been listening to Megadeth all this time, only now I understand why.

  • @nicolasreveco3748
    @nicolasreveco3748 Před 4 měsíci +2

    very fair points but you did dystopia dirrrty, and the sick the dying and the dead too! though i feel the last megadeth album and the last metallica album both suffer from having intros t o o long, like boringly long.

  • @Tibzydbd
    @Tibzydbd Před měsícem +1

    Bro I swear Remastered Risk- Prince of Darkness is so good

  • @BrandonBames
    @BrandonBames Před 4 měsíci +1

    “…the bass player..” LMAO Mustaine must be the pettiest, angstiest, holds-grudges-forever dude in metal.

  • @BegetterVIIEVEN
    @BegetterVIIEVEN Před 7 měsíci +1

    I have the same hat as you on your profile pic! I've worn it on all live shows so far!

  • @reaverofjillsandwiches
    @reaverofjillsandwiches Před 9 měsíci +7

    Personally I like both bands. Both have some great albums, some really bad albums and some that are a bit hit and miss. Youthanasia was actually my first Megadeth album, and I still get a lot of nostalgia from that one. The black album was my first Metallica album, but man some of those singles didn't age well for me. never liked Nothing else matters or Sad But true, but Enter Sandman bothers me now. Saying that there are some really good songs on there. I like Unforgiven. Holier than thau is my favorite and Struggle Within and Through the never are bangers. At the end of the day nice work dude. I'm sure making these videos isn't easy.

    • @ScoopedMids
      @ScoopedMids  Před 9 měsíci +1

      They're not easy but people enjoying them once they're out is is all the motivation I need.

    • @shecklesmack9563
      @shecklesmack9563 Před měsícem +1

      The best songs from the black album are all the non-singles (except The Unforgiven, that song rules).

    • @reaverofjillsandwiches
      @reaverofjillsandwiches Před měsícem

      @@shecklesmack9563 Yeah Holier than thou, Struggle within, Of wolf and man, Don't Tread on me are among my favorites. I do like Unforgiven and wherever I may roam. Oh and through the never. So long winded way of agreeing with you.

  • @charlesrocks
    @charlesrocks Před 4 měsíci +1

    Why is everyone so surprised about how Dave handled being fired from Metallica? Dude created the greatest thrash band with the greatest music of all time. Dave is literally better than everyone in the genre up until 2000s era. But he’s only one man. Metallica went the distance though.

  • @marcsalt
    @marcsalt Před 9 měsíci +2

    Personally i like when bands try something new (regarding the sell out topic) why would you want to buy an album that sounds the exact same as the last 3?

  • @alphawolf8503
    @alphawolf8503 Před 9 měsíci

    Oh this is gonna be good

  • @emolga3147
    @emolga3147 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I prefer Metallica since instead of sticking to the same thrash metal, they experimented with albums like Load, The Black Album, S&M and St. Anger (though st anger is mediocre, the rest are bangers). Megadeth have made a lot of thrash metal bangers, but they can't ever match Metallica's impressive ballads like The Unforgiven, One and The Day That Never Comes.
    Even this year Metallica has proved to be alive and well by delivering some of their best songs like Inamorata and Too Far Gone. I've still got to say that Megadeth's newest album is also one of their best and tops 72 Seasons in overall quality.
    Basically, Megadeth is more consistent with their style, and for that reason I prefer Metallica.

  • @danield9105
    @danield9105 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Like them both!

  • @musicfan1086
    @musicfan1086 Před 7 měsíci

    What happened to your Dokken back for the attack and shadow life reviews

    • @ScoopedMids
      @ScoopedMids  Před 7 měsíci

      They're unlisted. But they're still available to watch in old playlists.

  • @Audfile
    @Audfile Před 4 měsíci +1

    I can listen to Metallica for hours. Megadeth. A couple songs every couple years and im good.

  • @FrancisTheBerd
    @FrancisTheBerd Před 9 měsíci +4

    If Bob dylans voice is Sand and glue Daves voice is wet copper.
    In my opinion Megadeth has better albums overall but Metallica is definitely the superior live band, they make more of a show, unlike Megadeths stripped down "let's get to business" approach.
    Daves voice shrivelled up like a Raisin (now having the power and technical integraty of a Gordon Ramsay grilled cheese) and aged like milk on an exposed balcony on a south american summer while James became more refined and melodic (and kinda goofy I am sorry).
    I like both bands, Megadeth may be my preferred one but Metallica also has great songs, they feel more like a Team while Megadeth is more like "Megadave and Friends".
    Megadeth in my opinion has higher highs and lower lows, the worst of Metallica is boring and underwhelming but the worst of Megadetg is insulting and embarrassing.
    Good video and congrats for the 6000 subs

  • @jamiereekie9342
    @jamiereekie9342 Před 7 měsíci +3

    It's undeniable that Daves song writing and live performances made metallica what it was in the beginning. I sucks that they STOLE his material (which they 100% did)
    After Dave got fired and they used up his riffs the only decent song writer left was Cliff and once he died their writing quality went down hill after AJFA.

    • @imagereflection4826
      @imagereflection4826 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Cliff hardly write anything and neither did Dave. Why do people always try to credit those two with the first 3 albums haha Kirk wrote way more than cliff.

  • @DaCostaGuitars
    @DaCostaGuitars Před 9 měsíci

    I was honestly thinking this was going to be a James & friends video, in which all 4 of them talk this "debate" amongst them after all the facts. I'm sure it'd have been a much longer video if that were the case, though i can imagine the fun jabs each would take at each other & both bands (& well the members/eras of each band too).
    In all of this, I'm more a Megadeth fan than a Metallica fan, however, like many others, i feel Metallica was most of our introduction to the metal world. It's only after diving into metallica's history & early days was i introduced to Mustaine & Megadeth altogether. I prefer Deth's songs & overall musical composition, but I can't deny Metallica had a lot of musical abilities to them too (with Burton being classically trained, it brought a huge dynamic in their first 3 albums which grew stronger each album recorded).
    That said, Megadeth is the only band of the BIG 4, i haven't seen. Metallica, again, was the first of the 4 i saw (during their Death Magnetic tour). & saw Anthrax & Slayer at Heavy MTL festival (Montreal, Ca. outdoor fest over a weekend), & i'm not a slayer fan, but being it was their last show before retiring for good, i figured what the heck. Will i go see Megadeth if they came to Montreal? Nope, was offered the chance, & passed on it. So i guess, even though i'm more megadeth than metallica, it's only slightly over the line. It's not a mile long distance between both. As meh & bored i am of new metallica, i can appreciate their continued fun of playing music.

    • @ScoopedMids
      @ScoopedMids  Před 9 měsíci +1

      That could be interesting though I don't think Me, Caleb, and Nathan differ too much in opinion. And Drew isn't huge on either band.

  • @jimifritz
    @jimifritz Před 2 měsíci +1

    The sick The Dying and the dead smokes 72 seasons on every level

  • @TheShytallica
    @TheShytallica Před 5 měsíci +2

    Darn I liked the newer megadeth albums with exception to the world needs a hero and supercollider I have not listened to the sick the dead and the dying.

  • @ahungiao
    @ahungiao Před 4 měsíci +2

    More Classic Songs: Metallica
    More Feeling Songs: Metallica
    More Good Songs: Megadeth
    More Technical songs: Megadeth
    In my opinion:
    80's -> Metallica
    90's -> Megadeth
    00's -> Megadeth
    10's -> Megadeth

  • @WIlSoNs_CreAtiOn_sTatIoN
    @WIlSoNs_CreAtiOn_sTatIoN Před 5 měsíci +1

    If I had to pick or die I would have to say Metallica but I'm torn between.. I'm a big Burton and Hammett fan... there are both in my top 3 guitarist and bass guitarist

  • @Archenemygames.
    @Archenemygames. Před 7 měsíci +2

    Honestly I just like both equally so……

  • @EnSerio71
    @EnSerio71 Před 7 měsíci +1

    It was the best thing that could of happened to Dave. Now he has his own band and it is just as good. The rivalry is a great marketing tool in this silly world. 😅 Show biz.

  • @donmcglothlin841
    @donmcglothlin841 Před měsícem +1

    I think Metallica owned the 80s
    Megadeth was great but Metallica was epic
    Come the 90s and beyond Megadeth has been above par and consistent while Metallica has yet to inspire me with any album they’ve made post 1990
    Was the black album good? Yes. But Countdown was better, and the rest of the Bob Rock era ranges from butt rock to being less enjoyable than a toilet flushing for 90 minutes.
    Are there missteps? Sure, but Risk has grown on me. The minute I hear snare on St Anger I question my life decisions in album choices. I appreciate Lulu over St Anger
    The saddest thing in all of this where Metallica is concerned is they now have one of the most talented bassists who ever lived and they still barely peak at decent minus Spit out the Bone
    If you listen to the first 4 albums Lars takes a lot of risks on the drums that pay off massively and Kirk really brings the solos. Since Bob Rock it feels more phoned in from those 2.
    My theory is they became huge with Bob so now they know they don’t have to work for it
    Slap Metallica on an album cover and you’re making money and getting the Grammy

  • @jimifritz
    @jimifritz Před 2 měsíci +2

    I believe without Dave Mustaine their would have never been the Metallica as we knew in the 80’s therefore Metallica would have never became what they have become

  • @eversosleight
    @eversosleight Před 9 měsíci +8

    Love both bands immensely but what gets me is the years of hurt Dave had from getting fired, then turns around and fires so many bandmates from Megadeth.
    Great treatment 😃👍

    • @ScoopedMids
      @ScoopedMids  Před 9 měsíci +3

      Yeah, good point. The guy is a major hypocrite.

    • @cosmefulanito6854
      @cosmefulanito6854 Před 6 měsíci

      I don't know the context behind the members getting fired from Megadeth, but just in case I feel I need to say that it's much different to be fired from a band that's already successful than from a band that's about to start and become immensely successful without you.

  • @terriblecertainity
    @terriblecertainity Před 7 měsíci +1

    the rivalry always baffled me. Besides leads and drums, I can't think of a single aspect that Megadeth did even remotely as good or better. Hell, besides The First album and select songs like Holy Wars, I struggle to see why they are percieved as a Thrash band.
    Metallica have a far more diverse, experimental discography, I VASTLY prefer their riffs, way better guitar tone, better vocals with actual range and emotion. And when they choose to Thrash, they do it way harder than 99% of Megadeth's work. I mean, show me a Megadeth song as heavy as Fight Fire With Fire, Dyers Eve, Shortest Straw or My Apocalypse.
    Megadeth usually do the same thing over and over again, and their few experiments failed miserably. Mustaine's riffs usually feel more like a warm up excercise rather than a fun thing to listen to. The vocals are one dimensional and emotionless. Sure, megadeth are by far the better technicans, but that doesn't help them write good songs.
    I consider Megadeth a very mid-tier band, almost none of their albums are above a 6/10 for me. Yes, that includes Rust In Peace.
    Metallica aren't perfect either, but they have a song for every mood, and majority of their discography being at least an 8/10 for me.
    oh, and 72 seasons > hardwired by a mile. Hardwired is their weakest album by far. Just ultra generic.

  • @quagsiremetalhead1401
    @quagsiremetalhead1401 Před 9 měsíci

    Scooped drops another banger. This was a great vid, but I gotta go with megadeth. While agree with a lot of the points about them getting very samey, 72 seasons was just not for me in the slghtest whereas i really enjoyed Sick Dying and the Dead. The first 4 albums from both bands are some of the best runs in music history

  • @ZeBubba
    @ZeBubba Před 9 měsíci +1

    This is like comparing VHS to beta.

    • @andrewsharpe7630
      @andrewsharpe7630 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I don't think your analogy works. I have no idea what beta is, so that would mean one band is utterly forgettable, but both are still well known.
      Is beta a dinosaur technology like VHS? ha, that analogy would work cos both bands are dad-rock groups from a far distant past.

  • @slitveintv9705
    @slitveintv9705 Před 4 měsíci

    MEGADETH ....................

  • @Wejohnsn
    @Wejohnsn Před 5 měsíci

    i like seeing hetfield wear a hank jr tshirt

  • @ponzo1967
    @ponzo1967 Před 8 měsíci +2

    The money Dave has enjoyed by having writing credits on Metallica albums is never mentioned in any interview. Come on Dave spit it out, just how much money have you made from those early songs?

  • @alexanderkleist1127
    @alexanderkleist1127 Před 9 měsíci

    29:00 youre not the only person to get this wrong, but its "hangar", not "hanger". one sounds like a military base, the other sounds like a person who covers up murders as suicides for fun xD.

    • @RaspiRoope
      @RaspiRoope Před 8 měsíci

      English speaking people should know the difference

  • @malablondi77
    @malablondi77 Před 5 měsíci +1

    AYO i actually like st. anger the most (after ride the lighting , the best metallica album)

  • @delanoarts3703
    @delanoarts3703 Před 7 měsíci

    I like those megadeth albums i understand your opinion when i learn a megadeth riff i normally love it one of the things you have to understand is his stuff changed when working with different guitar players i think megadeth would return to at least one more great album if Marty would come back i bet that would fix megadeth for a album i just seen megadeth live the man is super old i just want one more album of greatest and i can put it to rest Marty is the key

  • @LostSoulNo301281
    @LostSoulNo301281 Před 4 měsíci

    Honestly, I agree on most points about Megadeth and Mustaine.
    Although, I think The World Needs a Hero was a decent album.
    I may be a little bias because it was the first new album of theirs that I bought on release after I I got into them, and I got into them around the time Risk came out, but I didn’t buy that album until around 2001. I think it was actually the last of the back catalog that I bought.
    I also think that United Abominations and Endgame are both solid albums, although Th1rt3en is where I think they started to decline, with two songs being leftovers/rejects from the Youthanasia and Cryptic Writings sessions, and one song being something they wrote for a video game a couple of years earlier.
    Super Collider has maybe two decent songs, and one of those is a cover.
    Dystopia is a decent album, but it does use some recycled riffs. The main riff from Lying in State is basically Blackmail the Universe.
    And as for the last album, The Sick, The Dying… And The Dead. I honestly thought it was quite forgettable.
    And Mustaine is definitely an egotistical prick.
    Just read the Rust in Peace book and you can see how he holds his former band mates in contempt, even when he compliments their contributions.

  • @SilverNova111
    @SilverNova111 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Ppl say Lars is the a hole but idk Lars tries , headfield in the other hand is the one with the condescending comments

  • @bryansteele832
    @bryansteele832 Před 4 dny

    At this point I'm sick of the vs crap. They are all good bands, all past their prime, but still good old friends I listen to when I want.

  • @rjamesyork
    @rjamesyork Před 7 měsíci +1

    I prefer Metallica but I appreciate your honesty, especially the one-sided war of words.

  • @napesdrk1174
    @napesdrk1174 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Turning 49 today and I am a fan of both like you but lean a certain way. You did an excellent job reviewing both bands and all the things that happened along the way. I side with Dave, Garr and Marty.

  • @jackhayes6084
    @jackhayes6084 Před 9 měsíci

    44:02 at Least silverchair were kids when they made this kind of stuff

  • @GuitarNeckMk
    @GuitarNeckMk Před 9 měsíci +1

    Always will be crossing paths between Dave and Metallica. Both bands are good.For me MegadetH is technically more advanced, more complex and MegadetH still thrashing.Try to sing, riffing, soloing in the same time. Kirk is high skilled guitarist that is no doubt.

  • @super_guitar_dude7954
    @super_guitar_dude7954 Před 2 měsíci

    Good video
    Gotta say though, over the years i've gained nothing but respect for dave and lost most of the love i used to have for Metallica. James and Lars a decent guys but Dave is a legend

  • @R2I2C2K
    @R2I2C2K Před 5 měsíci +2

    There's really there's to much to say about the way I feel but Dave wins I mean isn't he the one anyone seems to mention isn't he the one that really made it two bands to compare in the first place and no matter what thats gotta score huge And I would miss the sound of Dave's voice ok I'll stop there

  • @JeremyLeal1695
    @JeremyLeal1695 Před 9 měsíci

    Its funny to me that the only thing i disagree with in this video, is the jab at Overkill. Great vid.

    • @ScoopedMids
      @ScoopedMids  Před 9 měsíci +1

      I like Overkill but since the mid 90s they've basically made the same album over and over again

    • @JeremyLeal1695
      @JeremyLeal1695 Před 9 měsíci

      @@ScoopedMids Fair, but i do think they’re 2010s material has been pretty good, IMO.

  • @malablondi77
    @malablondi77 Před 5 měsíci

    ok good point , but does metallica have vic rattlehead?

  • @LiveAerosmith
    @LiveAerosmith Před 5 měsíci

    i really enjoy the last 2 Megadeth records!!!!

  • @filfer3110
    @filfer3110 Před měsícem

    saying kirk is good is a shame to all of us guitarists

    • @ScoopedMids
      @ScoopedMids  Před měsícem +1

      He's world famous for his guitar playing and you are not. Don't try and act so superior there pal.

  • @oliverdahlberg838
    @oliverdahlberg838 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Regarding the ending of 'Lying is Dave's business' where you say you haven't found any shit talking on Metallica's side towards Dave after he got kicked out: I remember listening to a phone interview from the 80's on CZcams with the band where Cliff says Dave can't play guitar, so that did happen.
    I also remember a comment on that video saying something like "Dave mourned and wrote a song inspired by Cliff after his passing, but I'm not sure Cliff would do the same for him." which I thought was interesting

    • @imagereflection4826
      @imagereflection4826 Před 7 měsíci

      Cliff never said dave couldnt play guitar

    • @Charybdis47
      @Charybdis47 Před 3 měsíci

      @@imagereflection4826 he did tho... Cliff was really angry at him after the car crash. Thats probably why he said it

    • @imagereflection4826
      @imagereflection4826 Před 3 měsíci

      @@Charybdis47 He praised Dave but said Dave spent too much time talking Sh..
      Which is true

  • @andrewjohannes6044
    @andrewjohannes6044 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Master of puppets and ride the lightning are legendary albums but megadeaths rust in peace is a master peace. Mustang is a better technical guitarist than James but James is a better vocalist.

  • @blyp8856
    @blyp8856 Před 3 měsíci

    Hot take incoming;
    There is genuinely no reason to pick one of these bands over the other. Despite everything, they are both equal forces in thrash metal and both deserve the spot of no.1 despite the fueds drama and terrible releases. They’ve both grown up and outplayed each other time and time again and to this day seem to be at the helm with each other. Metallica and Megadeth may be a bit of a competition, but both are the best of the entirety of metal.

  • @Unglued98
    @Unglued98 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Listen to bleeding me and outlaw thorn, the only good songs from load

  • @RRXXZZ1
    @RRXXZZ1 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Megadeth 🤘🏼

  • @punknerd9747
    @punknerd9747 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Load is a masterpiece come on! ReLoad is great, and ngl St. Anger>Risk anyday but I understand your take.

    • @ScoopedMids
      @ScoopedMids  Před 6 měsíci

      You definitely shouldn't watch our James and Friends episode on Load if you feel that way

    • @Taxable_Trophy
      @Taxable_Trophy Před 6 měsíci

      @@ScoopedMidsyou named a few songs you liked from reload, I’m surprised you didn’t mention fuel

  • @Wejohnsn
    @Wejohnsn Před 5 měsíci

    Dann Huff played guitar with hank jr