I was with you until the end when you complained about the bags because of your own personal lack of time management skills (take an extra 5 seconds to open the bag and check) or even do something as simple as putting a sticker or a piece of tape on the zipper handle to signify which one you're looking at. Such a silly thing to complain about. Especially when the bag quality is fantastic. Your review was alright but it got me to watch until the end and comment so you won this exchange I suppose lol
Few corrections: 32-BIT Floating Point is not clipless audio. It’s a clipless container, but you can still clip at the mic level, or at the DAC level before it’s recorded. It also doesn’t mean you can increase gain without increasing room noise as you said, that’s unfortunately not really how audio works IRL. But rather it gives you less signal noise when you normalize audio levels in post - this is due to largely to the floating point rather than the 32-BIT. Also, the Mic 2 sounds just fine with external lav mics (DJI’s lav mic sound like trash though). I’ve used it with the Sennheiser ME-2, MKE 2 and Deity w.Lav Pro, all of which sound exactly how they normally do. Just make sure you have turned off any EQ options inside of the receiver (I.e. low cut filter). I have also permanently disabled the noise cancelling - because it’s cool for someone who doesn’t mix audio, but like yourself, I would never want to bake that in to my audio file. Honestly, IDK what makes something pro or not. But as someone who supports my fam with video/audio work, I can definitely use these interchangeably with my Zoom 32-BIT Float recorders without any perceivable differences in virtually all cases. The internal mic isn’t phenomenal but is EQ-able - you could also grab the Senn Gold Series MKE 2 and be getting genuine broadcast quality audio with this setup. I wish it had a threaded jack, but the cable locking mechanism they built in is serviceable for now I guess. 😅
Lack of timecode support is the biggest ommission IMO. In terms of gain w/ 32 bit float, my understanding, and also what I see in my testing, is that turning up/down the gain makes no difference to the noise, only the level the audio will record at. Normalise a -9dB gain clip and a +9dB gain clip and you'll see / hear no difference.
The Rode Smart Lav+ sounds pretty good with the DJI mics. However, it's a TRRS connection which only works on the Mic 1. For the Mic 2, it requires a TRRS to TRS connector like the Rode SC3... that said, I think the DJI Mic sounds a bit better.
Good points. I'm having issues with my DJI mic 2 and the Pocket 3. The audio just sounds muffled and muddy. Not happy with it at all. How are you finding the audio on your setup?
Hello, I am a beginner in the audio field. I want to buy a wireless microphone, to use in real estate videos and social media. I want a microphone that you can use with iPhone, and I want a microphone that I dont need to edit the audio after recording. What do you recommend?
Interesting about the Rode lav sounding off on the DJI kit - I assumed I'd goofed something up! Re. the cases - they are different sizes but the trick I use for that kind of thing is coloured tape (frogtape is good for not leaving residue)...
I’m really struggling whether to buy to use with Osmo action 4 for cycling videos. Would it be an improvement over the built in mic for ambient and voice?
Just got Action 4 been testing it out trying to decide on mic to use while riding and ideally would double for in studio setup. Action 4 mic is actually decent depending on where have it relative to mouth vs external noises.
Why not local mute on the transmission? Some people wearing mics sometimes want a private conversation or go to the restroom. Despite the Jan 2024 firmware upgrade, this feature, although present on the original DJI Mic, is missing on the Mic 2.
Very good video, Zoom has also announced a new generation of its recorders (H1, H4 and H6) with 32-bit floating point recording. For you PRO level would it be the Rode Wireless PRO? Or what options would they be? Let's hope that this year more products come out that record at 32 bits. Do you know of any microphone (if it can be with a security thread like the RODE wireless PRO) that connects via Bluetooth, has 32-bit internal recording, can connect and record internally at the same time (the DJI Mic 2, you can not connect via bluetooth and record at the same time). Finally, it fits inside a motorcycle helmet. Thank you very much in advance
Yeah, it definitely needs a locking lapel as far as the microSD. I think that would kind of be going backwards. It has really good internal storage. I think all devices even cameras should come with internal storage.
If I got it would be just a different tool to use for quick setup when I don't want to get involved in concealing a lav under someone's shirt. If I'm going to the trouble of using a lav I'm going to use a traditional uhf wireless setup with quality lav. The dilemma for me is I'm not a content creator so how many jobs could I have such large device clipped to someone's shirt even with the logo taped off? As far as quality it's a big upgrade compared to on camera mics. Sometimes having the ability to quickly mic someone trumps a more complicated setup that doesn't get used.
To personalize and identify the Pocket 3 or MIC 2 Flexible Cases, you could apply one of the DJI Multi-themed Decals include with the purchase. Just Sayin!
I have the dji mics and they’re so essy to use with great features. While im shooting alone doing directing, camera and the sound, i would never go back to deal with senheiser g3. Dji mics must not be perfect but they are helpful 1000x than the old systems. I use my lav mic Sanken cos-11 and seriously it’s good enough for run&gun stuff
100% going to make an updated video with the new firm ware. They are definitely good mics. Just missing some key pro features. But overall probably the best bang for your buck.
I almost bought this mic after watching another video of comaprison between this and rode wipro. this one won just on noise cancelation. but when you say that it still makes that robotic noise, I am not so sure if I will buy these at all. I am just a content creator who does not have much time to fidget around with technical difficulties in post. I might just go with the rode. Thanks a lot for this video and a fair review.
Woah what? DJI mics don't play well with non dji lavs? Is that true? Make a video on that it could blow up, that's a massive flaw if true. I doubt it though considering there's a creator recording on it with a Shure sm7b and he usually records with a zoom f3 and he didn't notice any difference to say something like that.
Pro audio is Lectrosonics, Zaxcom, Shure, Wizycom. Pro mics is DPA, Sanken, Schoeps, Sennheiser. If I show up to a gig with this gear I would be laughed at. Any 2.4Ghz wireless system is not pro.
I get all of what you are saying. DJI themselves never called them pro . That's coming from those creators you are speaking of who got the mics from them. I think what they mean is it has "some" pro features not all of them . They could definitely come out with a pro level mic as I'm liking these so far and all the power they are packing in such a compact size .
@@davidscottbowlesphoto I had to go searching because at first I never saw all the pro talk. I found it though and I stand corrected. I think now the title pro gets thrown around too easily . All the phones with pro labels aren't really pros either . I guess they are doing the same. Also, maybe to them they are pro mics . It's the highest level of quality they've put out as far as their mics .
I don't remember DJI ever calling them Pro either. I'm stoked with mine. Works great with the Action 4 and the wrist remote. The mic is small enough to fit inside my helmet for Moto vlogs.
@@user-bg3gc9bo7j yeah I know I'm not the only one that missed that part. I love the size and the sound. Especially on board recording, Bluetooth , and the 32 bit float if I ever need it . Waiting for v the lav to come in.
DJI's solution is a dedicated channel under the clip for the lav cord, so any pulling of the cord doesn't actually get to the jack. It actually works perfectly well and is quicker than screwing down a plug. So I agree that not having a locking thread is a strange omission but it's far from the absolute disaster it might seem.
@@alanoakley3242it’s a massive omission in my view, with all due respect the DJI lav is probably very average, it limits being able to plug in a high quality lav. I know you could argue if your spending £200 on a lav mix you will probably have a more pro wireless system anyway, but the fact you can record 32bit float it would be great if it supported more high end mics.
@@davidscottbowlesphoto the problem is they aren’t designed for locking mics, they don’t work on some units already due to the locking nut not allowing proper connection, so I doubt a case would work, although that would be a brilliant idea,
It's a 100 dollar 32bit float recording interface with enough power to drive a Shure sm7b. (Only a few years ago, to power that mic you'd need a 100 dollar ADAPTER to add to your cable to boost the mic volume up) That is absolutely 100% pro level.
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I was with you until the end when you complained about the bags because of your own personal lack of time management skills (take an extra 5 seconds to open the bag and check) or even do something as simple as putting a sticker or a piece of tape on the zipper handle to signify which one you're looking at.
Such a silly thing to complain about. Especially when the bag quality is fantastic.
Your review was alright but it got me to watch until the end and comment so you won this exchange I suppose lol
I don’t know what’s dumber the fact I complained about the bag, or you complaining about me complaining about the bag. But thanks for watching ;)
@@davidscottbowlesphoto you callin him dumb ? Wow
Few corrections:
32-BIT Floating Point is not clipless audio. It’s a clipless container, but you can still clip at the mic level, or at the DAC level before it’s recorded. It also doesn’t mean you can increase gain without increasing room noise as you said, that’s unfortunately not really how audio works IRL. But rather it gives you less signal noise when you normalize audio levels in post - this is due to largely to the floating point rather than the 32-BIT.
Also, the Mic 2 sounds just fine with external lav mics (DJI’s lav mic sound like trash though). I’ve used it with the Sennheiser ME-2, MKE 2 and Deity w.Lav Pro, all of which sound exactly how they normally do. Just make sure you have turned off any EQ options inside of the receiver (I.e. low cut filter). I have also permanently disabled the noise cancelling - because it’s cool for someone who doesn’t mix audio, but like yourself, I would never want to bake that in to my audio file.
Honestly, IDK what makes something pro or not. But as someone who supports my fam with video/audio work, I can definitely use these interchangeably with my Zoom 32-BIT Float recorders without any perceivable differences in virtually all cases. The internal mic isn’t phenomenal but is EQ-able - you could also grab the Senn Gold Series MKE 2 and be getting genuine broadcast quality audio with this setup. I wish it had a threaded jack, but the cable locking mechanism they built in is serviceable for now I guess. 😅
Nice in depth comment. Appreciate it.
Lack of timecode support is the biggest ommission IMO. In terms of gain w/ 32 bit float, my understanding, and also what I see in my testing, is that turning up/down the gain makes no difference to the noise, only the level the audio will record at. Normalise a -9dB gain clip and a +9dB gain clip and you'll see / hear no difference.
The Rode Smart Lav+ sounds pretty good with the DJI mics. However, it's a TRRS connection which only works on the Mic 1. For the Mic 2, it requires a TRRS to TRS connector like the Rode SC3... that said, I think the DJI Mic sounds a bit better.
Ya I’m going to have to pick up a set for sure.
Great review, I just got mine yesterday. I love the first version so the upgrades & 32 bit float was the reason I got it.
32 bit float is a must.
Love your work dude
I appreciate that! Spread the word!!! Trying to get to 1000 subs before March!
Love your Honest Review Bro. keep up the great work.
Thanks! ❤
great deep insight, great video. Keep it up.
Much appreciated!
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We sent them back. Very disappointed with the sound quality.
Some locking Lapel mics would be nice!! Also what I would really love to see would be a slot for a micro SD on the Transmitter!
Good points. I'm having issues with my DJI mic 2 and the Pocket 3. The audio just sounds muffled and muddy. Not happy with it at all. How are you finding the audio on your setup?
Same, I need to do some new testing on it... even with the firmware, Try taking the low cut off and make sure the isolation feature is off
Hello, I am a beginner in the audio field.
I want to buy a wireless microphone, to use in real estate videos and social media.
I want a microphone that you can use with iPhone, and I want a microphone that I dont need to edit the audio after recording.
What do you recommend?
Interesting about the Rode lav sounding off on the DJI kit - I assumed I'd goofed something up! Re. the cases - they are different sizes but the trick I use for that kind of thing is coloured tape (frogtape is good for not leaving residue)...
I’m really struggling whether to buy to use with Osmo action 4 for cycling videos. Would it be an improvement over the built in mic for ambient and voice?
Just got Action 4 been testing it out trying to decide on mic to use while riding and ideally would double for in studio setup. Action 4 mic is actually decent depending on where have it relative to mouth vs external noises.
what code?? just a link to Amazon where it's $100 more than the DJI website?
Thanks so much for the honesty
Why not local mute on the transmission? Some people wearing mics sometimes want a private conversation or go to the restroom. Despite the Jan 2024 firmware upgrade, this feature, although present on the original DJI Mic, is missing on the Mic 2.
Very good video, Zoom has also announced a new generation of its recorders (H1, H4 and H6) with 32-bit floating point recording.
For you PRO level would it be the Rode Wireless PRO? Or what options would they be?
Let's hope that this year more products come out that record at 32 bits.
Do you know of any microphone (if it can be with a security thread like the RODE wireless PRO) that connects via Bluetooth, has 32-bit internal recording, can connect and record internally at the same time (the DJI Mic 2, you can not connect via bluetooth and record at the same time).
Finally, it fits inside a motorcycle helmet.
Thank you very much in advance
I wanna get one of those H1’s!! I think it’s a perfect back up.
Yeah, it definitely needs a locking lapel as far as the microSD. I think that would kind of be going backwards. It has really good internal storage. I think all devices even cameras should come with internal storage.
If you're happy to put tape over the logo, then why not put a coloured tape over either the mic or the pocket 3 case?
what would be a good pro clip on microphone solution?
If you want pro id go tentacle sync or anything diety makes. These are good for content creation and quick use.
If I got it would be just a different tool to use for quick setup when I don't want to get involved in concealing a lav under someone's shirt. If I'm going to the trouble of using a lav I'm going to use a traditional uhf wireless setup with quality lav. The dilemma for me is I'm not a content creator so how many jobs could I have such large device clipped to someone's shirt even with the logo taped off? As far as quality it's a big upgrade compared to on camera mics. Sometimes having the ability to quickly mic someone trumps a more complicated setup that doesn't get used.
you can lock the mic, under the clip
To personalize and identify the Pocket 3 or MIC 2 Flexible Cases, you could apply one of the DJI Multi-themed Decals include with the purchase. Just Sayin!
Didn’t even know that had decals I probably tossed it haha
will the negative reviews i cannot imagine dji not only fixing issues but adding features i personally only use as recorded so i have had no issues
I think No Timecode is a dealbreaker for many people. What were DJI thinking.
Ya... they need to do some stuff with a firmware upgrade too going to make a video on it soon.
I have the dji mics and they’re so essy to use with great features. While im shooting alone doing directing, camera and the sound, i would never go back to deal with senheiser g3. Dji mics must not be perfect but they are helpful 1000x than the old systems. I use my lav mic Sanken cos-11 and seriously it’s good enough for run&gun stuff
100% going to make an updated video with the new firm ware. They are definitely good mics. Just missing some key pro features. But overall probably the best bang for your buck.
I almost bought this mic after watching another video of comaprison between this and rode wipro. this one won just on noise cancelation. but when you say that it still makes that robotic noise, I am not so sure if I will buy these at all. I am just a content creator who does not have much time to fidget around with technical difficulties in post. I might just go with the rode. Thanks a lot for this video and a fair review.
Kinda annoying other lavs might not work as well. would like to see lave tests on the dji mics for a video! great job
That's a Great Idea! When I get my hands on the DJI Labs I'll Make That!
They event put their log on THE MAGNET????
Am happy with my DJI mic 2 thus far. I get great audio with volume controls. I paired it with a rode shotgun ntg and the audio was beautiful.
Honest point of view 🙏🏾👍
Better use my Deity Theos for « semi pro » 😉
Yes! Thanks, and Deity makes solid stuff!
Woah what? DJI mics don't play well with non dji lavs? Is that true? Make a video on that it could blow up, that's a massive flaw if true. I doubt it though considering there's a creator recording on it with a Shure sm7b and he usually records with a zoom f3 and he didn't notice any difference to say something like that.
There’s a few out there. Stoppers just put on out!
Pro audio is Lectrosonics, Zaxcom, Shure, Wizycom. Pro mics is DPA, Sanken, Schoeps, Sennheiser. If I show up to a gig with this gear I would be laughed at. Any 2.4Ghz wireless system is not pro.
I get all of what you are saying. DJI themselves never called them pro . That's coming from those creators you are speaking of who got the mics from them. I think what they mean is it has "some" pro features not all of them . They could definitely come out with a pro level mic as I'm liking these so far and all the power they are packing in such a compact size .
they are literally marketing it as "Pocket Sized Pro Audio"
@@davidscottbowlesphoto I had to go searching because at first I never saw all the pro talk. I found it though and I stand corrected. I think now the title pro gets thrown around too easily . All the phones with pro labels aren't really pros either . I guess they are doing the same. Also, maybe to them they are pro mics . It's the highest level of quality they've put out as far as their mics .
I don't remember DJI ever calling them Pro either. I'm stoked with mine. Works great with the Action 4 and the wrist remote. The mic is small enough to fit inside my helmet for Moto vlogs.
@@user-bg3gc9bo7j yeah I know I'm not the only one that missed that part. I love the size and the sound. Especially on board recording, Bluetooth , and the 32 bit float if I ever need it . Waiting for v the lav to come in.
Head over to Dji's Website and take a look for yourself. @@user-bg3gc9bo7j
No locking connectors is an absolute disaster.
Agreed might be a nice opportunity for someone to create a case for these that has a locking feature.
DJI's solution is a dedicated channel under the clip for the lav cord, so any pulling of the cord doesn't actually get to the jack. It actually works perfectly well and is quicker than screwing down a plug. So I agree that not having a locking thread is a strange omission but it's far from the absolute disaster it might seem.
@@alanoakley3242it’s a massive omission in my view, with all due respect the DJI lav is probably very average, it limits being able to plug in a high quality lav.
I know you could argue if your spending £200 on a lav mix you will probably have a more pro wireless system anyway, but the fact you can record 32bit float it would be great if it supported more high end mics.
@@davidscottbowlesphoto the problem is they aren’t designed for locking mics, they don’t work on some units already due to the locking nut not allowing proper connection, so I doubt a case would work, although that would be a brilliant idea,
It's a 100 dollar 32bit float recording interface with enough power to drive a Shure sm7b. (Only a few years ago, to power that mic you'd need a 100 dollar ADAPTER to add to your cable to boost the mic volume up) That is absolutely 100% pro level.
Problem is, getting the standalone 100 dollar transmitter (tx) will not enable 32bit float. You will need to enable it with the receiver (rx).
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