TOP 5 MISTAKES WHEN APPLYING VENETIAN PLASTER | here's what to avoid
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- čas přidán 21. 07. 2024
- We're sharing our top five mistakes we've made while applying venetian plaster. We hope that you can avoid some of the mistakes we've made and get better results when applying your venetian plaster. ↓LINKS TO PRODUCTS BELOW↓
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i plaster with natural materials like clay and lime for a living.
as a plasterer it is important to be able to use both of your hands, don't focus only on one! there will be times, where it does become very handy to be able to use your other hand.
then there is the option to make a reverse movement - les say you start plastering the right side of the wall as a right handed person, you can still easily start from the dry and move towards the wet.
if you really want to be good with your trovel, you have to be able to move it into any direction. for that it doesnt matter so much, which side you actually start.
i recommend to always begin with the most time consuming parts of the wall, like corners especially below the ceiling, because if you do it the other way around, your plaster might be set at the bottom already, when you finish your top.
some material might also drop to the ground while you are at it, possibly messing up your plaster below, if you started at the bottom.
you can wet your tools or the surface to smooth it with your trovel and prevent it from ripping your surface.
you should try a small batch first and measure time to give yourself an idea how the workability of your surface changes and how much time you have to smoothen out your marks for example. go till failure to also realize how to break your plaster, so you can avoid it while doing the actual work.
try to work in the shade and avoid high temperature, that gives you a lot more time, which you will need, if you are a beginner, who is definitely not as fast and experienced like a pro.
definitely avoid direct sunlight, because it will make the plaster set differently or set too fast - especially dangerous when parts of the wall are actually in the shade.
take care of your trovel, because a broken in / worked in tool is increasing its value over time - a new one only has the purchasing value, a worked in one adds the work you did with it to form the edges as value, which can be years! it is extremely valuable to have used tools in great condition, they are sacred!
That last tip was a great one bud. Thanks for the help. Keep up the great work on you channel.
Glad it was helpful! Just hope to pass down information I've learned from others!
Respect to you mate your videos are massively helpful keep them coming 👌🏼
Thanks! Glad it helped you out! I'll try to get some more videos in the works!
Yes, so helpful. Thanks for sharing ‘mistakes’! 🎉 especially #5 😅
Glad it was helpful!
Great video I've just ordered marmorino plaster to try it out see how I get on always wanted to give it a go 👍
That's awesome! Can't wait for you to try it out! We love it.
Superb explanation of how to apply plaster from dry into wet, and the direction to start from on the wall (right or left handed)... ✔
Thanks! Glad my explanation made sense! It definitely was the biggest tip I learned as I started plastering.
Thanks for yur tips! Excelent vid!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
I would add another tip! ( I just finished a ceiling plaster job) Drop cloth! Cover light fixtures, and make sure the ground is fully covered because there will be drops like little bombs. Also, if the wall or ceiling has texture, fill with joint compound, then prime. It will be a smooth surface to start. And honestly, investing in a good trowel, will make the job go 10x better. Years ago I had a cheap a$$ trowel, and used the back of it to burnish. It's like butter if you have a good tool.
These are all great tips! I agree having a drop cloth is totally necessary. We've done a lot of skim coating with joint compound on our projects which is great to get the substrate smooth.
Sir I have small paint industry
Good job
Thanks!
Can you pls tell us which kind of paint we can add to change the colour for example if I have one venetian plaster in white can I add a paint to change the colour if yes what kind aor type of colours do make effects
Awesome tips! Quick question! So, would I be doing two separate coats of the plaster, like when one uses regular paint? Thanks!!
You're welcome! Most venetian plaster will take two coats. Some of the more shiney/thinner plasters can take three coats. It depends on what you are applying. Let me know if this answers your question! Also take a look at some of my other product videos to give you a better idea of application
Hey, Blake & Melanie! I'm about to plaster my first room, and I've already applied my initial paint primer over the fresh skim coat, plus my Firenzecolor Quartz Primer. But I'm reaching out to ask whether the Marmorino KS will survive painters tape when I do the trim work around my doors and closets, or if I should do those first and then lay down my Marmorino. I would hate to destroy my new plaster finish!! Please let me know what's the best sequence to apply my finishing layers. Thanks!
Hey! 👋
I’d recommend painting your trim first then taping off before you plaster around your trim. That being said, obviously be careful with putting tape on fresh paint because the adhesive can pull it right off. You probably could do tape on your plaster but there has been times where the glue/adhesive part of the tape comes off on the plaster. Hope this helps. Let me know if you still have questions.
very good thankyou
Glad you liked it!
Just started plastering and then found your videos! I believe I accidentally over-compressed the first coat. How do I fix this before moving on to the next coat?
I did that a lot when I first started out but didn't do anything to fix it because I didn't know what was wrong at the time. If you've over-compressed or accidentally burnished your first coat, you can lightly sand it to help the next coat. Hope this helps!
Building a range hood cover and want to plaster it with a bronze metallic. Any product recommendations?
Check out Firenzecolor Metallic plasters. (firenzecolor.com/product-category/metallics/) There's a couple different options in there. I'd recommend looking at a gold base metallic plaster if you are looking to do more of a bronze look. Hope this helps!
I have a question. Does my older wall will have to be sanded prior since it has brush strokes on it or will it be ok just to prep the wall with primer and V plaster primer afterwards? Thanks
A smooth wall is always the best, but if you are using a thicker plaster, you don’t necessarily need to sand the wall first. If you are using a thinner/shiny plaster, then you will want to make sure any bumps or texture is relatively sanded down.
Wish there was visuals to kinda see what you were talking about but excellent info!
Good point! I should have shown visuals to explain better. I might create another video like this in future, but for now here's a blog post on our website that goes over it a bit more. alongforitall.com/top-5-mistakes-when-applying-venetian-plaster/
I tried both and beleive me add the " Quartz Primer " 100% 👍
Quartz primer is great! Although if you are doing a thinner/shiny plaster, I wouldn't really recommend it since it will add too much sand texture.
This is helpful in an important way -- it kind of assumes I'm an idiot. No, not stupid, and I mean that in a good way -- there is no assumption that I know what I'm doing (I usually don't), hence just the small things like "use regular paint primer to begin with" (paraphrase) is helpful. Then, also, the reference to the more specific kind of primer -- using the word "quartz" so I know what to look for. I've seen vids that just say -- "use a primer" and assume I know what that's supposed to mean in this context.
Thanks for sharing! I'm glad this info was helpful. I try to share information that I wish I would have known when I first started. It's not very easy to find information around this topic. Let me know if there's anything else you'd like information on.
If I skim the wall with drywall compound can I used a flat primer and then the 3 coats of grasello or the micro primer is necessary
You don't need a special primier to apply a thin/shiney venetian plaster.... Your steps would be. 1-skim coat your wall and get it smooth. 2- Prime your wall with a standard paint primer 3- apply your grassello.
Could I lay metal lathe over the top of my wall using it rather than a primer ( like you would in vertical masonry projects)?
That would most likely be too corse and would use up a lot of material. There are some plasters that are thicker for that, so you could look into that, but it wouldn't be necessary for this type of product.
Thank you for explaining. Makes sense!@@AlongForItAll
Great great tips 👍👍
Thanks! 🙌 Glad they were helpful.
@@AlongForItAll your welcome and thank you for your good work on your channel 👍i kind of did all the mistakes u enemurated 😅 and cost me at least a few hundreds smackarooze ...so now im taking notes on what " not's " 😂
Thank you guys ...
@@simonac688. We did the same thing. That's the reason I decided to share. Glad it's helping people out.
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What primer is best if you are plastering over previous venetian plaster. Behr was used first now I have a lighter color Marimono Berlina plaster.
It depends on what type of Venetian plaster you're trying to go over. Is it shiny? Does it have a sealer on it? If it's either of those, you'll probably want to lightly sand the wall before applying a primer so that the primer will adhere. In that case, I'd use a paint primer like Zinsser or Kilz, then go over that with the quartz primer. If you have a more matte unsealed Venetian plaster, you could probably just go straight to the quartz primer without sanding. Without really seeing, I won't know for sure but let me know if this helps or if you have other questions!
@@AlongForItAll its not shiny and I didnt seal it. That's why I have to redo it. I am changing the color from a terracotta to a cloud white. Ill do the two primers...just to be sure. Thank you. :)
I see! That makes sense. Good call just to do both so you get good adhesion. Let me know if theres any other question you have!
Ok to apply on Orange peel walls? Will the Orange peel show through?
Orange peel from a paint roller is should be fine. If it’s added texture, you may want to sand it down a bit depending on the Venetian plaster you’re using. If you’re using a coarser or thicker Venetian plaster you could probably go right over it.
awesome
I am using untinted plaster that I got from Firenzecolor. I was told it is plain white. But it dries creamish, I want to redo it. But it’s already waxed. I wanted to go just 1 coat over it, will light sanding help or should I prime it and start over? Thank you
Untinted plaster tends to have a milkiness to it. This is just because of the limestone and other ingredients that are in the plaster. Often, if people want a brighter white color, they will add some blue into the mix to make it appear that way. Since you already applied wax, I would probably lightly sand the wall before applied a new coat in order to open the plaster back up a bit. If you need help with colors or tints, Frienziecolor will have great advice. They've done a lot of white plaster so they'll know what to do.
@@AlongForItAll I guess it was my fault, as before I bought untinted plaster from different company and it was almost crisp white. Anyway I decided to make it work, the store is far from me (in different state) and it would be too much hassle to bring 3 5gallons buckets for tinting. The girl who picks up the phone for them doesn’t seems very knowledgeable and looks like she is not even in NY. I got some universal pigment per her recommendation but it did absolutely nothing. Now I am looking to buy more products I’ll appreciate if you can provide contact in NY location who can advise on color choice. Thank you for your reply.
I believe most of their products are managed and shipped out of their Miami location, so that's probably the person you were talking to. I'm not sure the Frenzecolor team could help you fix your current situation since you already mixed in others tints. If you decide to purchase brand-new plaster directly from Frienzecolor, they would be able to assist from there and be able to pre-tint the plaster for you, so it's all ready to go. In the future, since it was un-tinted plaster, you could ask if you could buy liquid tints directly from firenzecolor to mix in.
How do I avoid seeing sections after I move on from burnishing one area
This takes practice for sure and is something that I'm still working at. I'll just list a few things I've notice that help. Keep moving as much as possible. The more you can apply plaster wet to wet, the better. If your area dries out too much there will be a more noticeable seam. Don't burnish too close to the edge of where you stopped. Applying plaster over a burnished area will be visible. After you burnish a section and go to apply plaster in the next section, start your strokes further away in the dry section so when you pull the plaster towards the burnished area, it will be thinner and more tapered. When you go to burnish your plaster, don't over burnish the seams. The more you burnish the more you'll see the seam in most cases. If your plaster is drying out too quick, you could try using a spray bottle to keep it slightly wet until you are ready. This is something I've not tried personally but I could see how this could give you a bit of extra time to burnish. Obviously the better you get at plastering, the faster you'll be able to work. The only other thing I can think of, is have a second person to help on the second coat. Hope this tips help. Let me know if you have any other questions!
@@AlongForItAll thank you very much very informative...
What should be used for priming?
For thin/shiny venetian plaster, you can use a normal paint primer. For thicker venetian plaster, you'll want to use a quartz primer as it add a little grit to the wall.
What if your wall has the knock over texture
We would recommend skim coating the walls so they are smooth before applying Venetian plaster.
@@AlongForItAll awesome thank you
Brother love, I see you studied me, specially Tip 5 and have my sexy Exotic line trowel, much love!!❤️🙏🏻
Love all your videos and watching you work! You have taught me a lot! The x-trowel is treating me well! Thanks for all the tips! #sexywalls
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Mixing it again is a bad idea as real venetian will get thin. It thickens when sitting. This is important since it doesn't behave like cement or concrete. Tape also has to be removed while it's still applied or it can ruin finish and if you just painted or primed your walls don't use blue tape! Use gentle green or wait 7-10 days!
Thanks for the advice. I usually mix only if the plaster isn't uniform or if I need to incorporate tint. Starting a project when your plaster isn't prepped can cause color issues or issues with spreading. Taking the tape off when it's still slightly wet is a good idea. I've done both routes and seem to always get crisp lines but taking off when it's still wet is always easier and smoother.
Is your trowel from marmarino tools? Exotic?
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From dry to wet! … hmm most of the videos says from wet to dry so no mark from the trailer will be left and I used this method- was better then you last suggestion
Glad you found what works best for you.
6:10-6:16. I need help. It sounds like he said one then said the opposite.
Sorry! I know it's a little confusing. You want to apply your plaster in the dry area and pull it back into your wet area. If you're right-handed that usually means you'll start on the left and work to the right. If you're left-handed you'll start on the right and work to the left. Did that help clear things up? Let me know if not.
Right-handed? Begin your project starting at the far left area, working to finish far right. Apply counter- clockwise, dry to wet, as you work moving right.
Still seems like kind of a beginner. Not a 20 year journeyman plaster.
I am still a beginner. Just passing some info along that I thought was helpful.
Damn! I applied this shit to my Hyundai and it looks awful. How do I get it off? You said nothing about exterior applications and I think that was a mistake on your part.
A plastered Hyundai. That's something I'd love to see.
@@AlongForItAll it’s awful! I should never have tried a diy project. I just don’t have the aptitude for it.
So basically, learn how to do venetian plaster before you actually start doing it on your own! 🤷♂️ nice! Good! Makes sense!
This is true 😂
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last point was not explained well.
Starting your stokes from an area that has wet plaster tends to leave a mark. The best way I've found to apply is to always start your strokes away from the area that is wet and work your stroke back into those areas. This allows it to feather into the previously applied area and avoid any marks.
Do you mean: start a new trowel 6 -8 inches away from where you last plastered and push the plaster to join up with the old?
Yes, that’s correct.
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