An easy and detailed method on how to adjust the valve clearance on a four cylinder Massey Ferguson MF-35. But works as good on any four cylinder/stroke engine
Good description of how to do it. The problem is sometimes the lock nut tries to turn the screw, and it can be hard to prevent that. Terminology in the US is 'lock nut' for that nut and we would say 'eight thousandths', not 'one eight thousandths of an inch'. So the fraction is 8/1000 of an inch. As I said before, I love all of your videos.
I found your channel while searching for videos on Defender 110’s as I have a ‘99 TD5. I have to say I’ve really been enjoying your videos as I work my way through your catalogue. This series on the MF tractor has been fun to watch as well!! Great presentation and a very nice way to spend some time relaxing on a weekend afternoon 🙂👍🏻
Nice detailed explanation. Incidentally, a long time ago I had it explained to me that when checking the gap it is easier to use the feeler gauges either side of the stated one, for a 'GO' - 'NO GO' test. I assumed it was because it is subjective as to how tight, tight is when you use the stated size, mind you it is always reassuring to use the stated one after and feel it slide in nicely.
Yes, indeed and thanks for your comments.. I know an old ( well very old) mechanic, and he never used gauges.... he just has the feeling for the gab in his fingers....or at least that is what he says... and with old engines, I can believe that he is right.... vlaves might tick a bit...
Great information I used to drive my grandfathers I think u can get a 3 cilinder also some people think ones better than the other great tractor I use to bring the bales of hay in and drive true a river nearly 4 foot of water short cut bk to the farm love Ur work u deserve a lot more subscribers Ur work is excellent I really enjoyed Ur work shout out from Ireland
Very nice, well done. I must say I am amazed at how good your English is, all of grammar, vocabulary, and accent. You sound like a native. (One very minor comment I'd make, though, if that helps, is that to avoid misunderstanding, it is more common, in the US at least, to say "8 thousandths of an inch", or "8 thous" colloquially, rather than "one 8 thousand of an inch" as it sounded like you said and which suggests more 1/8000, which is a different number. Yes, it's tempting to do because of our screwy fractional system, I know. It's even more confusing when you hear some people call the thou a "mil" which sometimes happens, and makes little sense unless you are semi-metric. Having said all this, I understood perfectly what you meant.)
por que se deja mas abierta la valvula de admision que la de escape ? por estos lugares se suele hacer al reves es decir mas olgura a la valvula de escape
I’ve just watched a few of your MF35 videos. Nice work. Very easy to understand. Ive recently purchased a petrol MF35 It’s going to need a new clutch soon. I was wondering if you’ve done any instructional videos for that part of the Fergie. It’ll need hydraulic work soon too. So possible worth doing this all together.
I've always assumed that they got it wrong in the manuals for the 23c engine. Every other engine that I have been able to spec with adjustable valves has the clearance larger or the same for the exhaust valves for what I consider obvious reasons. The exhaust valve runs hotter and there fore , once the engine is at temp, it is expanded more than the intake valve. I find it odd that there is not more info/discussion of this anomalie.
The Ferguson 35 had several engines fitted. Tvo Petrol Diesel And perkins diesel 3 cylinder. One of the engine fitted was of the standard motor company. Which was cars and also fitted to the Coventry climax fork lift truck. It was the standard engine which gave fault . And you had to use bradex easy start to get it going either to put patients out for surgery. This was due to a design fault. As instead of using direct diesel injection it used a method called indirect injection as it went into a small chamber in the head before going into the cylinder for compression. Known as an indirect direct compression chamber. . It did not work very well. As the engine ware took place. So a bit of a pig to start. Hence you needed either to start it . Pure alcohol. Hope this has helped you to understand the standard engine fitted to the 35. The perkins 3 cylinder was far more superior. Engine.
But does it really matter in what order I set the clearence!? I mean the way I see it is, as long as the valve is on it's lowest point on the cam, you should be perfectly fine to adjust it! Do a video on how to set the timing chain/gears! Great channel, very entertaining 🔟/🔟
Excellent and informative videos Iv'e been watching on the 23c. One important point which seems to be overlooked is the cylinder head bolts, are you reusing the old ones or using new? thanks again
Good job mate. I would wonder however, there is no mention of timing marks for the injector pump to ensure they coincide with the cam/crank timings. I suppose it's because you never messed with these during the head removal/installation. But good job!
Ken Arnold , txs for the comments. Indeed, a good point. But since i did not make any changed to it, it was not needed. Maybe something for a next videa
Why exactly do you adjust the valve gap on cylinder 4 on its power stroke just after its TDC (compression stroke) ? I cant understand this yet. On its compression stroke the both the inlet & outlet valves on cylinder 4 are closed - why cant the adjustment be done on this stroke?
There is something missing on this engine. There should be wear caps on top of the valve stems. Actually they are called wear caps on the intake valves and rotators on the exhaust valve. But the look the same, except the different size. Someone has lost them in the past. Or forgot to put them back.
I believe they are also called "lash caps". This would be the one for the intake valve: www.jensales.com/products/massey-ferguson-intake-valve-stem-lash-cap-mfs2307.html And the ones for the exhaust would be larger but else the same. They don't list the Standard Motors 23C there, but it might be the same wear cap for both the Continental and the Standard Motors engines. It just has to fit the valve stem with approximately 0.32" I.D. for the intakes and 0.38" for the exhaust.
i just bought a mf 35 3 cylinder and i needed to know how the front mount for the gastank was mounted and this video helped alot, also i did adjust the clearence on the valves. i like to know how you clean a gastank if it is rusty on the inside is that a future old rusty video maybe?
My fe 35 23c engine is not supplying oil to the head , but the oil pump is pumping greatly. I have checked for blockages but there is none . I need help !
Bonjour, Merci pour vos videos et votre professionnalisme. D'apres la notice du massey ferguson 835, le joint de culasse doit etre posé cote cuivre vers le haut or vous avez fait le contraire ? Pouvez m'aider je suis perdu. Merci encore.
Boss would you like to tell us how much hp is this tractor and can you sugest us any latest or old 4cylider perkin engine for mf 240(50hp) tractor . Because 3 cylinder engine is not supporting on rotavator...
Very clear , you are an excellent teacher . A question for you . I have a Grey Gold FE35 and i think its the same or very similar engine to the MF35 ( 23C Standard Motor co engine) Does your engine have a mix of bolts and studs to secure the head down ? Mine has and the studs have a 1/2 inch UNF thread while the bolts have a 1/2 inch UNC thread . This , in theory should require two different torque settings .However the manual states a torque of 95 to 105 lb/ft for all . Is this a mistake in the manual or is there some other reason why the torques is uneven this way ?
Thanks for the comments and indeed its the same on mine. As for the torque , I do consider it as the range it has to be in. These engines are very forgiving.... But maybe some one has another experience.
Damn no good after re checking everything, I went to start and it cranked much faster than before but number 3 cylinder out valve, just about the middle it bent the out push rod just a bit, Do you think its the valve clearances or timing ? I hope not timing its a massive job to get the front axle and crank pulley off
WOW...you are a Great teacher. Thanks so much for videos. I have a 74 Massey Ferguson 175 and I have a question...I have a leak on top of the trans. where it bolts to engine. There are 2 metal lines that go into top of trans. housing where 2 rubber grommets hold the lines in. I am missing one rubber grommet. Is there an easy way to get the grommet in the hole????? Been working on this for 2 weeks and am frustrated...!!!
@@D3Sshooter well I have had no luck as for now but I needed to use the tractor so I put some aluminum foil around the pipe and stuffed it in the hole a bit and it did work and kept it from spilling all over the transmission. Will keep trying to put them in...!
Hello D3SShooter, thank you for the info. So the valve clearance adjustment could be done at our farm? We have a Kubota tractor. They suggested maintenance has a valve clearance adjustment due. Could a mechanic do this at our farm? As opposed to flatbedding the tractor to the Kubota dealer, Thank you
13 mm spanner should be 1/2 " SAE this can give one many head ach 10 mm spanner does not exist in SAE --- so get your right spanner for the right piece of machinery !!! English brake fittings with MM spanner you will end up crying !!!
hi sir how are u i write from Ethiopia do you have acontact number for joined from u because i have to need i asked some questions about four cylinder indo farm tractor
Good video. Of course, if you turn the engine 180 degrees for each cylinder, that must mean on a four pot engine that two cylinders can be checked and adjusted within each 180 degree turn. I know, I do it for a living ;-)
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Good description of how to do it. The problem is sometimes the lock nut tries to turn the screw, and it can be hard to prevent that. Terminology in the US is 'lock nut' for that nut and we would say 'eight thousandths', not 'one eight thousandths of an inch'. So the fraction is 8/1000 of an inch. As I said before, I love all of your videos.
Thanks Dennis for correcting,
You are very useful to engine enthusiast.Thank you so much 👍💯.
I found your channel while searching for videos on Defender 110’s as I have a ‘99 TD5. I have to say I’ve really been enjoying your videos as I work my way through your catalogue. This series on the MF tractor has been fun to watch as well!! Great presentation and a very nice way to spend some time relaxing on a weekend afternoon 🙂👍🏻
Glad you like them! Thank you for the comments..
Thanks mate I just got my MF 35 going again after adjusting the valve clearance. Much appreciated.
No problem 👍
Nice detailed explanation. Incidentally, a long time ago I had it explained to me that when checking the gap it is easier to use the feeler gauges either side of the stated one, for a 'GO' - 'NO GO' test. I assumed it was because it is subjective as to how tight, tight is when you use the stated size, mind you it is always reassuring to use the stated one after and feel it slide in nicely.
Yes, indeed and thanks for your comments.. I know an old ( well very old) mechanic, and he never used gauges.... he just has the feeling for the gab in his fingers....or at least that is what he says... and with old engines, I can believe that he is right.... vlaves might tick a bit...
Wonderful Video. IT helped me a Lot Here in Germany with my Massey Ferguson m50s.
Thanks Sir for your fantastic tutorial
My pleasure and thanks for the comments
Thanks so much for your simplified explaination,God bless you
Great information I used to drive my grandfathers I think u can get a 3 cilinder also some people think ones better than the other great tractor I use to bring the bales of hay in and drive true a river nearly 4 foot of water short cut bk to the farm love Ur work u deserve a lot more subscribers Ur work is excellent I really enjoyed Ur work shout out from Ireland
Nice comment and txs a lot.
Very nice, well done. I must say I am amazed at how good your English is, all of grammar, vocabulary, and accent. You sound like a native. (One very minor comment I'd make, though, if that helps, is that to avoid misunderstanding, it is more common, in the US at least, to say "8 thousandths of an inch", or "8 thous" colloquially, rather than "one 8 thousand of an inch" as it sounded like you said and which suggests more 1/8000, which is a different number. Yes, it's tempting to do because of our screwy fractional system, I know. It's even more confusing when you hear some people call the thou a "mil" which sometimes happens, and makes little sense unless you are semi-metric. Having said all this, I understood perfectly what you meant.)
Thanks for the comments, and explanation
thank you so much, finally something my tiny brain can understand!!!
Sorry for the late reply , as i was away for work. But thanks for the comments.
@@D3Sshooter no problem bro
Excellent presentation.👍
@Wade Marco Would you ever f**k off and stop putting this tripe on CZcams and hacking me!
Great clear and precise info .
THANKS 👍
Very informative. Thank you
Thanks for the lecture
You explained that very well, thank you.
Excellent detailed explaination
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Nicely done, all the way.
Thank you! Cheers!
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Thanks for the comments
Thank you sir! this was very helpful
You are welcome!
Great video
Thank you sir. Very nice restoration.
I'd like to watch your video on adjusting governor , and idle linkage , if possible.
Thanks
por que se deja mas abierta la valvula de admision que la de escape ? por estos lugares se suele hacer al reves es decir mas olgura a la valvula de escape
nice workshop !!!
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Thanks again for a thorough, professional step-by-step instruction. 05OCT2018
Txs for the nice comments
I’ve just watched a few of your MF35 videos.
Nice work. Very easy to understand.
Ive recently purchased a petrol MF35
It’s going to need a new clutch soon.
I was wondering if you’ve done any instructional videos for that part of the Fergie. It’ll need hydraulic work soon too. So possible worth doing this all together.
Glad to help
I've always assumed that they got it wrong in the manuals for the 23c engine. Every other engine that I have been able to spec with adjustable valves has the clearance larger or the same for the exhaust valves for what I consider obvious reasons. The exhaust valve runs hotter and there fore , once the engine is at temp, it is expanded more than the intake valve. I find it odd that there is not more info/discussion of this anomalie.
Thanks for the comments, and a very good point
@@D3Sshooter might explain why those engines are so hard to cold start
The Ferguson 35 had several engines fitted. Tvo
Petrol
Diesel
And perkins diesel 3 cylinder. One of the engine fitted was of the standard motor company. Which was cars and also fitted to the Coventry climax fork lift truck. It was the standard engine which gave fault . And you had to use bradex easy start to get it going either to put patients out for surgery. This was due to a design fault. As instead of using direct diesel injection it used a method called indirect injection as it went into a small chamber in the head before going into the cylinder for compression. Known as an indirect direct compression chamber. . It did not work very well. As the engine ware took place. So a bit of a pig to start. Hence you needed either to start it . Pure alcohol. Hope this has helped you to understand the standard engine fitted to the 35. The perkins 3 cylinder was far more superior. Engine.
Some engines built had valve clearance the same some as you say had inlet one gap and exhaust another gap. So you are correct in what you say .
yes . good . guess what else can expand more Once the Engine is at Temp...
for what I consider obvious reasons. 🤔
But does it really matter in what order I set the clearence!?
I mean the way I see it is, as long as the valve is on it's lowest point on the cam, you should be perfectly fine to adjust it!
Do a video on how to set the timing chain/gears!
Great channel, very entertaining 🔟/🔟
Great point! and indeed... its always the lowest point
Excellent and informative videos Iv'e been watching on the 23c. One important point which seems to be overlooked is the cylinder head bolts, are you reusing the old ones or using new? thanks again
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Good job mate. I would wonder however, there is no mention of timing marks for the injector pump to ensure they coincide with the cam/crank timings. I suppose it's because you never messed with these during the head removal/installation.
But good job!
Ken Arnold , txs for the comments. Indeed, a good point. But since i did not make any changed to it, it was not needed. Maybe something for a next videa
thanks thanks. you helped me indeed
My pleasure
awesome thanks!
Thank you for the comments
Why exactly do you adjust the valve gap on cylinder 4 on its power stroke just after its TDC (compression stroke) ? I cant understand this yet. On its compression stroke the both the inlet & outlet valves on cylinder 4 are closed - why cant the adjustment be done on this stroke?
exactly . it seems important to time the intake valve closure accurately ,
There is something missing on this engine. There should be wear caps on top of the valve stems. Actually they are called wear caps on the intake valves and rotators on the exhaust valve. But the look the same, except the different size.
Someone has lost them in the past. Or forgot to put them back.
SLORRIFJART321 , txs. That is interesting. Do you have picture or so. I am interested in it
I believe they are also called "lash caps".
This would be the one for the intake valve: www.jensales.com/products/massey-ferguson-intake-valve-stem-lash-cap-mfs2307.html
And the ones for the exhaust would be larger but else the same.
They don't list the Standard Motors 23C there, but it might be the same wear cap for both the Continental and the Standard Motors engines. It just has to fit the valve stem with approximately 0.32" I.D. for the intakes and 0.38" for the exhaust.
Thanks for sharing
Mr Kerry Gleeson my pleasure
i just bought a mf 35 3 cylinder and i needed to know how the front mount for the gastank was mounted and this video helped alot, also i did adjust the clearence on the valves. i like to know how you clean a gastank if it is rusty on the inside is that a future old rusty video maybe?
Thanks for the comments, it might
My fe 35 23c engine is not supplying oil to the head , but the oil pump is pumping greatly.
I have checked for blockages but there is none . I need help !
Muy buenos los aportes. De no conseguir repuestos para el motor 23 C q otros modelos de motor sirve?
Thanks for the comments,
Any chance you'll be doing a video on a Clutch recondition and pother associated parts in the back end of an MF35??
yeah that might be the case one of these days.. not sure when as I have many project running at this time Thank you for the comments
Bonjour, Merci pour vos videos et votre professionnalisme.
D'apres la notice du massey ferguson 835, le joint de culasse doit etre posé cote cuivre vers le haut or vous avez fait le contraire ?
Pouvez m'aider je suis perdu.
Merci encore.
Thanks for the comments, so far no issue...it all depends on the gaskit itself
Thank You! Hey what is that marking pen called that you used to mark??
if the thread on the adjusting bolt is one millimeter per revolution, then the dipstick can not be used
Thanks for the comments
@@D3Sshooter I always wanted to touch the American auto industry of 50 ... 70 years, now at least in the video I can do it ).
STEVE !!!!!Put a kidney belt young man .....!
Thank you for the comments
Boss would you like to tell us how much hp is this tractor and can you sugest us any latest or old 4cylider perkin engine for mf 240(50hp) tractor . Because 3 cylinder engine is not supporting on rotavator...
Very clear , you are an excellent teacher . A question for you . I have a Grey Gold FE35 and i think its the same or very similar engine to the MF35 ( 23C Standard Motor co engine) Does your engine have a mix of bolts and studs to secure the head down ? Mine has and the studs have a 1/2 inch UNF thread while the bolts have a 1/2 inch UNC thread . This , in theory should require two different torque settings .However the manual states a torque of 95 to 105 lb/ft for all . Is this a mistake in the manual or is there some other reason why the torques is uneven this way ?
Thanks for the comments and indeed its the same on mine. As for the torque , I do consider it as the range it has to be in.
These engines are very forgiving.... But maybe some one has another experience.
Damn no good after re checking everything, I went to start and it cranked much faster than before but number 3 cylinder out valve, just about the middle it bent the out push rod just a bit, Do you think its the valve clearances or timing ? I hope not timing its a massive job to get the front axle and crank pulley off
Hmmm I would think the timing, but then the issue would be valid for all valves,,, good luck
I looking for parts for a 35 petrol engine
WOW...you are a Great teacher. Thanks so much for videos. I have a 74 Massey Ferguson 175 and I have a question...I have a leak on top of the trans. where it bolts to engine. There are 2 metal lines that go into top of trans. housing where 2 rubber grommets hold the lines in. I am missing one rubber grommet. Is there an easy way to get the grommet in the hole????? Been working on this for 2 weeks and am frustrated...!!!
Thanks for commenting, haha those grommets are not easy, i use a lot of acid free vaseline to rub them in. That works most of the time.
@@D3Sshooter well I have had no luck as for now but I needed to use the tractor so I put some aluminum foil around the pipe and stuffed it in the hole a bit and it did work and kept it from spilling all over the transmission. Will keep trying to put them in...!
Hello D3SShooter, thank you for the info. So the valve clearance adjustment could be done at our farm? We have a Kubota tractor. They suggested maintenance has a valve clearance adjustment due. Could a mechanic do this at our farm? As opposed to flatbedding the tractor to the Kubota dealer, Thank you
Yes they can , if they are willing
@@D3Sshooter ok, thanks so much for the response,
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12 thou inlet 8 thou exhaust surely the other way around the exhaust valve clearance should be greater !
Thanks for the comments
Is this tha same for perkins ad4.203
Not fully but the same principles apply
I see you say .0012 on the intake and .008 on the exhaust. Is that wrong? the exhaust valve will grow more then the intake JRS
That is correct. It is even marked on the valve cover. It's a bit odd, but it should be like that on the engine.
13 mm spanner should be 1/2 " SAE this can give one many head ach 10 mm spanner does not exist in SAE --- so get your right spanner for the right piece of machinery !!! English brake fittings with MM spanner you will end up crying !!!
I know , that is always an issue .. getting the right tools for the right job
Thank you for the comments
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Can you explain a bit more ?
@@D3Sshooter sir i want to fix paddle race as like in our cars in my old model ford 3600 tractor
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hi sir how are u i write from Ethiopia do you have acontact number for joined from u because i have to need i asked some questions about four cylinder indo farm tractor
Thanks for the comments, just place your questions here .. I do check regular the comnents
Good video.
Of course, if you turn the engine 180 degrees for each cylinder, that must mean on a four pot engine that two cylinders can be checked and adjusted within each 180 degree turn.
I know, I do it for a living ;-)
Txs for the comments,