Yamaha YZ250FX Review - Episode 154
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- čas přidán 9. 08. 2016
- Yamaha came to market with an off road racing dirt bike that fills a large gas in their lineup. This is a bike that can be ridden in off road, GNCC style situations. It can be ridden in hare scramble races. It can do desert, it can do single track. It might not even be terrible on a motorcross track for most average riders out there. Yes, it's a bit heavier than some of the other bikes in it's class due to the e-start, but it's a solid platform and it has been very fun to test over the past few months.
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The thing I hate most about the YZFX is that there's no used ones for sale! People must be holding onto them.
Yeah. If you look up Vegas Romaniac, he said its the bike that put him out of business. He loves the bike, but there's nothing that breaks or has to be replaced; no projects on it. LOL
So excited for you to get the YZ250X
I bought the yz250x two stroke a few months ago and love it. the suspension is perfect for offroad and it has plenty of power. Yamaha did a great job on these offroad bikes
Can't wait to get one for myself.
Would you say your bike is better than the YZ250FX?
@@brockmiller3277 probably better for trail for sure rather than the four-stroke, then with just a couple goodies like a stealthy flywheel and full pipe..
Nice job Kyle as always!
Great review! Thanks for sharing!
I just bought the yamaha yz250fx wow very impressive. Awsome power and suspension for a 180 pound rider. I think so far it a perfect fit for experienced riders for trails.
Man I want one so bad, damn. Put me a couple pieces of soft luggage on that baby and ride it everywhere.
I'm buying one tomorrow so pumped!
They are really fun and snappy offroad bikes.
I LOVE my 16 250FX...coming from an 02 CR250 setup for woods, the blue bike is much more refined. More stable at speed, corners better, sounds awesome, coil and oil up front!!! Wouldn't mind it losing a few pounds but it's really easy to maneuver in tight gnar....twist it to the stop!!!
You should keep making reviews its great info for me to choose witch bike to get.
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You rock man ! love your podcast as well !!
Thanks for a great review, I've been following this series closely for months now :)
I finally rode the FX myself last weekend, at my local closed circuit enduro track and agree strongly with most of those points - particularly the hard to access fuel tank and the low gearing.
I currently ride the KTM 250 xcf-w and the gearing on the FX was even lower, which made it a lot harder to ride smoothly and as a result tired me out a lot quicker.
I must say I did find the suspension years ahead of the KTM. Both my KTM and the FX I tested were set up by the same suspension expert, for the exact same weight and very similar riding styles so it was a very fair comparison. Ultimately I found the FX suspension to be far firmer and smoother throughout the stroke and was far more confidence inspiring.
Thanks again for this series, look forward to the next instalment.
I have to say that I have found the KTM suspension more confidence inspiring while riding off road. Suspension is so subjective from one rider to another, you know?
Nice review Kyle!
Friend of mine rode a WR with some FX modifications to 18th in the Bronze class at the Roof of Africa last year. Some hot tips for our local Yamaha gurus are to use exhaust wrap on the header to keep the heat in the pipe and away from the radiators etc. The other mod that makes a big difference is to lower the rear end 10mm (internal lowering with spacers), which apparently helps improve turning and stability significantly
I picked one up today it's so nice
Can't wait till you get the 2 stroke version. I love mine!
Same.
Spot on, even for us wr owners (with competiton kit). After a G2 throttle tamer, 3 gallon tank, FMF exhaust I'm very happy with my bike. I hope to find a 250 KTM to borrow soon for comparison, honestly, they look more fun ergonomically than the Yamaha's - lower and leaner.
Love the videos!!!! You nailed it on this bike.id love too ride with you one day
Hey Kyle, Had the chance to ride a 2015 YZ250X! I was picking up my 06 YZ250F head from a local bike shop Mossy creek cycle after it melted down lol, but they are both hare scramblers with the local AHSCS and had picked a new one up for his son's new race bike! WoW you're going to dig it the most, it is way different than the FX, gear box is totally different than the FX as well, no E start, bike is crazy quick though, get one..... you'll love it!
Love you channel man! Always great content! Brandon @ Dirthammers.
I'm a Filipino trail rider sir Kyle, learned a lot from you
I've got the 2019 yz250fx..it's bloody awesome can't fault it
Love this video. Lurchy!
I remember having the FIRST issue of Dirt Bike mag. June i believe, 1970! Boy did I love that mag and the people who made it. First real dirt bike. 1974 YZ. Bought it new, saved up, paid cash from working in acabinet shop at 17. 1975. Wow! Look at bikes now woyld you. Four strokes? Ppphhhhhhhtt. Premix please. I can still hold on. Just one more YZ before I go to knobby fever heaven.
2017. I just bought one. They still dont have that fuse area covered. They did add the front lower cover. They removed the kickstarter.
Do they make a cover for that fuse block yet?
This bike will be amazing and I might be getting one. I know that all the problems can be fixed and modded
Getting the 2016 tomorrow can't wait
this bike is great on mileage, i have been in races where i didn't have to stop! 50 mile GNCC races.
Kyle, Can you share where you got that tug strap for the rear, or did you engineer your own?
Hey where did you purchase the hand grip on the back of the seat?
love this bike, Yamaha all the way
Where do you live man? You've got beautiful trails!
Clutch control man, gotta keep it covered in any "loose or hairy" situation. Love the peppiness of it!!! Mitigate translation to the ground with the clutch, that's what it's there for but other than that and a couple small things it's hard to complain about isn't it? You need to do a build on this man, oddball stuff like port and polish, things like that would be awesome to see with or without dyno before and after hp ratings and tq.. I'd love a 150xcw to build for woods riding, eating people up on the local trails on the pipe alot kinda riding, sadly I only have a $1500 budget right now and will likely have to sell in the spring to buy more equipment or a trailer for the business I'm trying to get going doing landscaping, I'm tired of earning someone else's living too and want a chance to treat employees the way I would have liked and giving opportunity to own their share of the business and get percentage based income if they choose, to empower them to want to produce more and have high standards.. I hope this works.. 😕
I owned this bike and you cant go wrong with the fun factor of the 250fx . This bike will make you a better rider as the motor never abuses the rider but rips if you want, it is stable at speed , jumps well , the suspension is great and is super reliable, it turns great if you spend some time with setup and in a particular riding area. It is a little awkward in really tight trails compared to a 2 stroke.I would ride this in smooth flowing trails and fast single track also good on mild old school motocross tracks. This is a great bike for a racer or weekend warrior. New bike is a 2018 Husky tx300 and still love everything about Yamaha.
Bill Werner what is your pick between the two? Literally have it narrowed down between those bikes.. born and raised on 4 strokes all my life.. rode a mates 300xc and fell in love, but yamha has a great deal on at the moment, so I’m lost!
Hello Mr. Brotherson,
first of all you do awesome videos (y). Do you have any experience with the KTM EXC 380?
what you think about clutch compering to hydraulic one. Is it harder to use in enduro?
I just bought one of these bikes used with maybe 80hrs on it. Upgraded from a 2004 KTM 300mxc. Huge upgrade obviously. 2 rides in on very wet conditions and I love it already. Wrong tires and all. Any setup recommendations would be appreciated. Will be watching more of your videos on it. Thankful I found your old review.
great video.....
Nice review mate, I think they have a while ago still to be as good as the ktm off roads due to them been focusing on mx
great video, i love what you do. one quick question. the tire shelves in the back ground, awesome. how did you mount them to the plate and what is it made out of. IM DOING THIS in my garage ASAP... once again keep em coming.
Just built a half circle shelf and screwed tires to it.
you should do a video on setting rebound
I race my 2014 yz 250f in the woods and I am always pushing hard on single track and I was so surprised how long the gas really does last. I know it isnt a 250fx but the torque is pretty bad in the tight woods.
Could u please review the Kawasaki kx250 2017 4 stroke
Dirt bike channel Hey, I'm trying to buy a 250 but I can't decide of yz or cr 250 2 stroke for the trails?
Looking at buying this model. Would you still recommend
Hi I’m turning 13 soon and I’ve out grew my 2016 Crf150f and I want this bike for casual trail riding and a little track that i built in my backyard. Would you recommend this bike thanks for your consideration.
how is the suspension? i do trails and a little motocross but i like the idea of the long range gearbox for trails. because i miss that from my old 2003 excf250 now got a 2011 sxf250
how many bikes do u have at the moment
What’s a good battery to replace it with to avoid that hit start problem????
These bikes actually do get great mileage and also is it actually that much of a bother to open the filler cap? I did wonder about the gas tank when I first got it but haven't gotten low on gas at all. Also, you can grab the sub frame for putting on the stand.
Is there much difference between this bike and a normal 250 such as crf 250 or kx250f?
Could you compare this to Honda's CRF250?
I road a YZ250F last week and it had nice power, way better than a WR that I road years ago. Would you say that a FX is close to the same power as the YZ250F? I think I'm still leaning towards getting a KTM XC-F 250 or 350, but have been looking into the YZ250FX.
How does this compare to the husqvarna te300 ? I’m thinking of trading my bike in for a four stoke
Thanks for the information on these bikes. it's slightly off topic but would you consider this Yamaha to feel more heavy and planted than even the 350 XC you been riding lately? I know you're riding and testing the 350 and the new KTM's supposed to feel really light and lively. I'm sure you want to get into that and another video, but I'm very close to making a decision on a bike and it would help me out quite a bit. Thanks
Great Review! Can it , be made , Street legal ,in Fla?
Hey Kyle, I have a 2015 WR250F (aus version is very similar to the FX once de-restricted, they come with the "competition kit") - currently thinking of trading it for a Beta 300 RR - Which would you prefer ? I had the same nit picks as yourself - the plastic fit is terrible compared to the older model (Airbox, how the fuel tank lines up and the exposed wiring. Annoys me for the cost of these!) and that werid "lurchyness" you describe is there as well. I think it must just run a bit leaner right off idle then it should. Using the clutch solves it or just having a slightly higher idle makes it not too bad....still annoying though!
I like to ride the bottom end of the rpm range and just "cruise" through the trails so not sure if the Beta 300RR would be a good choice or not.
What do you think mate?
This "lurchy" description that you're using; can't that be remedied with the programmer?
The suspension looks super Tall?
Would you say it's a comfortable bike to ride on tight single tracks in the woods? Also the same question for YZ250X. I heard that KTM 250XCF since 2014 or so don't have much of a bottom end to speak of. Is it the same for YZ250FX?
They actually flaunt that gaping hole in the paneling in the manual. They are show casing the technology.
It's always fun to ride a YZ125 pinned. It's the same for 250 vs 450 4 strokes.
Will I fit at 5’ 6
what's the difference to a yz250f?
Has yamaha had good reliablity lately?
I feel as if they should've done some redesigning on the FX to accompany a larger gas tank. I imagine an aftermarket oversized tank for this bike wouldn't work out too well. That is.. If they even make them...
Tbh I like the spot the air box is it sits high and away from possible water
Do you think something like the G2 throttle tamer would help with the off-idle "lurchiness"?
wetfloorsign I bought one used and expected the lurchiness and it for sure was scary in tight woods. Turns out it had a G2 throttle tube with quick turn cam. Ordered up the "tamer" cam and swapped it out with great results. It's still got that clean off/on but you've got a lot of room to be more liberal with the throttle. As I get more used to the bike I may work back towards the stock cam profile but for now this is working wonders.
I ride a 08 CR250R and I use to have the same problem in the rear with lifting; but I just removed the plastics in the back to expose the frame. It's not recommended but that's just how I prefer it now, and in Hawaii when we're trail riding having that plastic gone helps for when we are on a rocky river beds and you need to carry the rear over the rocks sometimes
i thought the last model year was 07
Jamil Watts maybe it is an 07 I swear the dealership told me it was an 08 though. I mean not that it mattered the bike was a everyday ride since I bought it and has been through hell & back a few times... them Hawaii struggles hahaha
Jamil Watts usually the bike's have the year on the sticker right? I might go check now, but it's not like I can get my money back the dealership that sold me had shut down due to financial reasons so I may have taken a few hundred dollar loss on price difference but it didn't occur to me to check the sticker when I purchased the bike
Great video... I'd love to hear your thoughts about the WR250F with the ECU competition programing kit compared to the YZ250FX. Are they effectively the same bike? If i get a great deal on a new 2015 WR, is it worth it?
The WR has is a tamed down, plugged up, lower HP version of the YX250FX. The WR is a great bike, but it's more of a trail bike. It feels sluggish and soft as compared to the YZ250FX IMO. I have not been on a WR with the competition ECU that you are referring to. The YZ250FX is a race bike and behaves like one.
I got a ktm 250 4 stroke and IT has both kick start and electric start
Man.. It sure is hard having to pick between the Yamaha YZ250fx & KTM 250 xc. Might just get both :D
Coming from someone who works in a shop that sells both, we do roughly 8-9 KTM motor rebuilds to 1 Yamaha.
@@cullennowell Thanks for that info!!
Great job Kyle. Would love to see the two stroke yamaha! Quick Question. Are you interested in adventure riding or not and what bike would buy if you would take on adventure riding. Thanks. Love your videos.
I am not into the adventure riding to be honest.
Yz250fx or ktm exc 350?
Can anybody tell me should i get a honda crf 250r enduro the suzuki rmz 250 or the yamaha yz250fx or the wr250f which one wont blow up thanks 😀
If you do proper maintenance none of them will blow up :) The yz250fx and wr250f are great bikes but they are 250 pounds which is heavy. If you are doing motocross mainly buy a rmz but for off road use you cant go wrong with a yamaha.
Do you think that the Ktm 150 xc w has good low end power even though it is a smaller 2 stroke?
I haven't ridden one yet...
Is this a good bike for a heavy rider
Is it heavy ???
Kyle would the YZ 250 FX be an good match for general trail riding for a moderate skilled rider? Or would the WR 250 F provide similar power and handling? I like having some lights on the bike but if the WR250F is slower, I wondering if I'll get bored with it. I'm an older rider in my 50s so I don't plan to race but I do like having enough power to crawl up hills in the mountains here in New Mexico. Any info would be great, I plan to buy one in the morning. Thanks!
Michael Wood the Wr is fast it’s a duel sport bike. It’s a little on the heavy side for me compared to the fx. At the end of the day you wouldn’t be disappointed in either of them
I'm 51....190 lbs
The 250FX has more than enough power for trail riding,or hill climbing.
It revs to the moon and goes.
Wouldn't be my choice in sand dunes but anywhere else the 250 makes more than enough power,and chances are it will be riders skill being the problem.
Enjoy all your videos, Thanks. Need some advice. I am 5' 10" and on my fifties with fairly good shape. I ride a KTM 1190 Adventure (Regular) and want to improve my dirt riding skills. Not looking to go fast but to go trough the type of terrain you ride without the extreme sections, not that aggressive or at least not at the beginning but consistence. Would rather fuel injection and electric start, 2 or 4 stroke don't care, New or used don't care. Any suggestion?
Thanks for the follow up! My brother just bought a 2016 KTM 250 xcf and I'm buying the yz250fx. Should be interesting and lots to 1 up and argue about like typical brothers. lol
I'm putting out the review of the KTM 250 XC-F very soon.
I did have a chance to ride his XC-F, I did find it to vibrate through the foot pegs causing my feet to become fatigued fairly quick. Maybe it's my cheaper thor boots? I'm not to sure, but something maybe something to look into while you're riding it. Anyway ride safe and have fun!
other than that a very well balanced bike.
Good bike for a heavier rider?
Hey Kyle! I have been watching your videos for a while now and am really liking them. I am a 15 year old that rides a KTM200 exc and ride enduro type singletrack. I really like the sharp power from it and the hectic powerband and the adrenaline rush it gives me. But all of my friends ride 250 four strokes that i have never rode. do you think i made the right choice with the 2 stroke or should i have gone with the four stroke?
I KNOW you made a good choice with the 200. It is a great bike. Don't second guess yourself Jason.
what he said....i regret ever selling my ktm 200. Awesome bikes.
Best review ever!!
Do you dont review the cross versions?
The other Cross reviews are bullshit compared to your reviews!
Kyle, you've been riding the bike for a good while now... Any feedback on gas mileage for typical trail riding? How does it compare to the purported 70 mpg for the WR250R?
I sold this bike a few months ago. Mileage is trail and rider dependent for sure. It's not like a car where you can give an actual mileage since the terrain and the riders aggressiveness (or lack there of) makes a huge difference.
My 15 fx gets over 100 miles on a tank, and 80 ish at a orv park, you crazy bruh the gas mialage is amazing
Hi Kyle. Must say i love your content. have been watchin ya since your young years here on youtube. A quick question how do you ceep your bikes that clean and new looking, it's insane. I go out for one ride and then just about all the dirt i have been riding on has stuck to the bike.
Best regards from a swedish 18 year old enduro rider.
there's loads of videos on CZcams on how to clean your bike properly and he probably has brand new plastics and sticker kits
We haven't put any new plastics or graphics on our bikes. It just requires time and work. Kyle doesn't use this but I do. www.maximausa.com/product/sc1/
+Dirtbike Channel Sam that stuff is gold. It could shine up a terd. I use it for tire gloss on my truck and it lasts forever! Great product!
What’s the maintenance on the 250fx like. I don’t want to get the normal f because of the maintenance. Is it as much as this bike?
Snickers I own one, it's about the same I think. Oil changes every 5 hours and an oil filter change every 10. Initial break in means getting valve clearances checked etc but other than that, you don't need much. Especially if you don't flog the shit out of it.
Conor Mcmullen yea I mean I’m sure I would go to tracks but probably not race, do you think that 120 hours is when it needs a new top/ bottem end or would you say that’s to soon
Let me guess it was your 62 Yr pops who called a bike "lerchy" never once in my life have I heard someone call about that or is it even a word nonetheless great video buddy love the bike
did you had the chance to try and ride the 250 x version?, the forks on your yam looks nice and solid!
I hope to do the 2 stroke version of this bike as soon as I can get it sold to make room.
+Dirt Bike Channel Can not wait to see a review of a yz 250x. Would also love to see a review of a Beta. Specifically the 300rr and 350rr race versions.
Motorcycle dealer should send him some bikes for review, for now he have to buy each bike himself, he cannot review a new bike each week! I bought my KTM because of this channel, i'ts good free publicity for dealers!
+cadwarrior Exactly...I also bought my bike based on the influence of this channel. Actually dirt bike channel is pretty much the reason I started riding enduro. Lol. In Canada Beta has shipped demo bikes basically across the country stopping at dealers along the way. Perhaps it's simular in the states, and Beta would entertain the idea of dropping a demo bike of at Dirt Bike Channel. A big if..but worth a shot I suppose. This channel is one of the few locations to find unbiased, honest reviews by an everyday rider, making it an awesome resource.
+Tim Maskell totally agree!
Great review!
What's your opinion on the removal of the kick start on the 2017 model
I think it's huge mistake.
I bought a 2017 knowing I'll have to put a kick start on it. they say it was to save weight. which is fine, but I feel more comfortable having that back up way to start the bike.
Im 12 years old 5'8 and weigh 140 pound. I can start my dads 450, but its to much power for me but a 250f doesn't feel uncontrollable. what bike should I get.
Definitely learn on a smaller, lighter bike before you get something like a 450. You'll have more fun and get good experience.
I'm not liking the rear fender pointing upwards.
Can you make a video on whether a two stroke is a good bike for beginners? I would love to hear about that. I'm 6 ft tall, and I'm 145 lbs and 16 years old. I would love to get a yz250 two stroke, but people make it seem like I won't be able to handle it.
I want to use it for trail riding and off-road terrain. I have had experience riding quads, and I think that I would be able to respect the two stroke motor's power
"cant handle it" lol who cares. it only goes as fast as you make it go because youre in control. youd be fine lol
i own a yz125 and im 5'6 or close to that and 120 pounds ive never needed to go past 4th gear trail riding but i guess it does matter what trails. mine are more dense but idk. the 125 is the best all around bike in my opinion
personal i think the cable clutch is a good thing as it dosnt give me as many problems with hidralycs and so on.
also, if you take the older moddels like my own ktm 2012 model has hidralyc clutch, and the new ones has hidralyc clutch
I haven't had any issues with any of the hydro clutches I've owned. I've had about 6 of them.
Dirt Bike Channel hmm, okay well then i see why you look difrently at it. nice videos you make, i came into your channel through my friend and theyre awesome, thank you for replying :D
I was just looking into this bike and realized this video came out today! Would you recommend this bike to a beginner?
I'm 13 and on a yz250f which is a motocross race bike and ride it off road the fx which I've ridden is like the f but intended for trails and includes electric start. The wr series is like the fx but feels a little more less powerful.
This bike or a WR 250 would be a decent first bike depending on your height and weight.
Where do you sell all the bikes and how much did you pay for it, and how much do you sell them for?
I use a local classified website in my area. I lose money on each bike, but I don't have any other choice since the manufacturers aren't giving them to me.
Hi Kyle, can you comment on the wide ratio 6 speed transmission ? For those of us that like an mx-like bike for dual sporting ... and before you cringe let me explain - My concern is getting to close by trails not actual dedicated road riding. Most of my riding starts right from my garage not from my truck so this is important. I had a crf250x and with a 5 speed it had to be darn near neutered gearing-wise to get a decent cruising/not screaming pace (55mph). Again I know this is a race bike but a lot of us convert them for more fun while enjoying technical trail riding. (us 40+ ex-racers). How does the tranny compare to an XCF-W speed, did Yami get the 6 speed right ?
Yes, I think the gearing for speed/transitions was really good. This bike did great in 6th gear. The KTM 250 XC-F couldn't pull 6th gear.
Is the gas tank really a problem? Because I'm about to get a crf250x and it only holds 1.9 gal
I think it's an issue for those longer rides that I tend to find myself on...
the bike I was gonna get sold.. there is a brand new looking yz250fx, coming from a 230 do you think that this bike would be too much for me?
Quick question! I remember you saying that you never really need a 450f because the 250 has enough power for everything. In that case why don't you ride a 125? Is it because the two stroke 300 has more low end grunt?
I really can't explain it but the 300 2 stroke is just magic. Doesn't eat you up like a 450 and can go slow better than any other bike I've ever been around. It also has enough power to do anything so, it's really hard to beat for an "all around" package.