How Federal Agents Can Legally Take Your Money at the Airport

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  • Law enforcement agencies routinely seize currency from travelers at airports using civil forfeiture-a legal process that allows agencies to take and keep property without ever charging owners with a crime, let alone securing a conviction. In this episode, we discuss the real stories of victims of this abusive practice, the new IJ report-"Jetway Robbery?”-that shows just how widespread it is, and what travelers need to know to protect their property.
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  • @InstituteForJustice
    @InstituteForJustice  Před 3 lety +9

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    • @killercuddles7051
      @killercuddles7051 Před 3 lety

      I distrust your channel. Please everybody, be extra skeptical on this one. This is one of those channels that BLOCKS ALL COMMENTS every 'now and again' ..... I'm guessing it's when ppl disagree with their agenda...... anywho, screw this ppl lace. they lost my trust

    • @killercuddles7051
      @killercuddles7051 Před 3 lety

      @Up 2U naw.... I just stay they hell away from airports.

    • @simon6071
      @simon6071 Před 3 lety +2

      Many months ago I received a scam call. It said it appeared that I had bought an iphone on Amazon for a certain amount of money and if I agree that I had bought it, just hang up the phone. I hanged on the phone until the scammer hanged up first. Since then I don't answer my phone immediately unless I'm 100 % sure its someone I know.

    • @Wrighjj
      @Wrighjj Před 3 lety +1

      Are you IJ Tax ID: 52-1744337

    • @igotchabrothaofficial
      @igotchabrothaofficial Před 3 lety

      @@Wrighjj good one 🤣😂🤣😂🤣

  • @makylemur7019
    @makylemur7019 Před 3 lety +150

    The solution is simple: Ban civil forfeiture.

    • @makylemur7019
      @makylemur7019 Před 3 lety +13

      @@josephvanname3377 With interest.

    • @r0xjo0
      @r0xjo0 Před 3 lety +17

      Better yet. Ban the bloated agencies alltogether and have these welfare recipients get real jobs.

    • @deshaunjackson8188
      @deshaunjackson8188 Před 3 lety

      What about actual criminals? That are moving lots of cash and have millions of dollars in assets? I think we should still steal from them.

    • @samjordan8800
      @samjordan8800 Před 3 lety +1

      @Maky Lemur
      Not just interest but like with the IRS, interest and *penalties* !!!!

    • @nerdlingeeksly5192
      @nerdlingeeksly5192 Před 3 lety +2

      I'd rather rewrite civil forward to only be allowed if the individuals convicted of a criminal offense and the money is proven to be gained from illegal activity.
      I don't want this happening to innocent people but I wouldn't mind actual criminals ill gotten gains being used to pay for pothole repairs in my city.

  • @sarahronyar7659
    @sarahronyar7659 Před 3 lety +89

    The DEA agents need to be charged with stealing,.

    • @jabba0975
      @jabba0975 Před 3 lety +12

      Armed robbery.

    • @jordanedmond5618
      @jordanedmond5618 Před 3 lety +5

      They need to be charged with Rebelion as this is unconstitutional and an attempt to overthrow the Constitution.

    • @dennishoule2570
      @dennishoule2570 Před 2 lety

      Better start getting politicians involved

    • @dennishoule2570
      @dennishoule2570 Před 2 lety

      Funny how the govt has waged war against the people and the people don’t know it yet

  • @rkba4923
    @rkba4923 Před 3 lety +144

    It may be "legal" but it's absolutely NOT "lawful" nor "constitutional".

    • @ejolguin1282
      @ejolguin1282 Před 3 lety +2

      Your 💯 percent right key word lawful ....... their rules for their courts .... legal law has nothing to do with a man or woman

    • @SingingWhileDrunk
      @SingingWhileDrunk Před 3 lety

      Yeah but she is just a b****

    • @thomascolbert2687
      @thomascolbert2687 Před 3 lety +8

      It's completely illegal: It violates the Constitution.
      That being said, the scotus is looking to help the feds in this area.

    • @mr.waynes7555
      @mr.waynes7555 Před 3 lety +4

      what do you mean "it may be legal" there is absolutely NOTHING legal about it....how dumb are you?

    • @thomascolbert2687
      @thomascolbert2687 Před 3 lety

      @@mr.waynes7555 I misread it at first, too. Read it with the quotation marks around "legal".

  • @jadedillon5201
    @jadedillon5201 Před 3 lety +65

    Never mind putting it to better use, GET RID OF CIVIL ASSET FORFITURE! Period!! Unless you are convicted of a crime, they should not be able to seize ANYTHING!

    • @MrGoatflakes
      @MrGoatflakes Před 3 lety +1

      Well, except in a civil case where someone sues someone else and wins, or if someone is sued and the sued person is awarded costs, surely they should be able to collect?

    • @unifiedtheoryoflife9922
      @unifiedtheoryoflife9922 Před 3 lety +6

      @@MrGoatflakes Absolutely not. They should use normal collection methods like credit reporting. Debt to a citizen is no less important than debt to the government.
      The government should not be able to go into your bank account to collect its fines any more than it can go into your home to collect its fines.
      The government has been taken over by criminals. Every inch of power that you give these thugs is an inch that will soon be up your rear end.

    • @MrGoatflakes
      @MrGoatflakes Před 3 lety +1

      @@unifiedtheoryoflife9922 credit reporting doesn't collect money, I was talking about a civil suit where both parties are private citizens, and not so called "civil seizure" where the government just decides to take your money because reasons.
      What I'm talking about has literally existed since courts of law and is subject to due proceed, namely it can only happen as a result of a verdict of a civil trial.
      And the alternative is that a business can be found grossly negligent, incompetent, or malicious and yet simply decline to pay their victims, and the only punishment they would receive is that paperwork would be lodged at a private business, maybe even themselves, detailing how naughty they have been.

    • @bamahama707
      @bamahama707 Před 3 lety +2

      @@MrGoatflakes You are surely wrong...ask any good attorney.

    • @bamahama707
      @bamahama707 Před 3 lety +3

      @@MrGoatflakes You seriously think there is due process any more?

  • @nickknickerbocker6415
    @nickknickerbocker6415 Před 3 lety +119

    🤔" It is hard to imagine a more STUPID or more DANGEROUS way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong 😳 { Thomas Sowell } "Quote"

    • @r0xjo0
      @r0xjo0 Před 3 lety +9

      Right now there is a law that removes ANY liability from pharmaceutical companies for adverse side effects of vaccines. Yet we are going to trust injecting our bodies with something that will never come out once it is put in.

    • @justusforrster9264
      @justusforrster9264 Před 3 lety +2

      They're going to give is all the CoVid19 with the vaccine. You'll have to be strong to survive it.

    • @pedrowhack-a-mole6786
      @pedrowhack-a-mole6786 Před 3 lety +2

      ​@@r0xjo0 Please stay on topic and voice your opinion in an appropriate venue.

    • @pedrowhack-a-mole6786
      @pedrowhack-a-mole6786 Před 3 lety +1

      @@justusforrster9264 Please stay on topic and voice your opinion in an appropriate venue.

    • @TrussttN01
      @TrussttN01 Před 3 lety +1

      They actually appear to benefit by being wrong.

  • @paulrose6282
    @paulrose6282 Před 3 lety +119

    They are nodifferent than a highway bandit of the old days they just have a badge and say and say its legal. But it is not lawful to

    • @edwardmiessner6502
      @edwardmiessner6502 Před 3 lety +2

      @ Do you have any idea how literally impossible it is to lobby Congress or *any* legislature and succeed in advancing your agenda when you're opposed by much more politically powerful groups, especially when they're law enforcement?

    • @makylemur7019
      @makylemur7019 Před 3 lety

      Read Lysander Spooner The Constitution of no Authority.

    • @r0xjo0
      @r0xjo0 Před 3 lety +3

      @@edwardmiessner6502 If that is the state of affairs, redress needs violence to enforce the will of the people. From time to time the blood of patriots and tyrants is required to reclaim liberty. We are at that crossroads.

    • @friedenhiker1032
      @friedenhiker1032 Před 3 lety

      People will need to use force, not violence, and it needs to be immediate during the robbery. Would you not defend your life's work? These criminals are stealing because it doesn't cost them anything. If they have a high probability of not surviving their criminal act, they will be less likely to attempt it.

  • @rudiwiedemann8173
    @rudiwiedemann8173 Před 3 lety +114

    With no formal record of the monies seized, I’m wondering how much ends up in the pockets of the seizing cops???

    • @joliekae
      @joliekae Před 3 lety +12

      An agent in Seattle literally put my aunt's money in her pocket. The agent opened my elderly aunt's wallet, removed all cash- about $300- and stuck it in her pocket. Gone. Supervisor threatened to arrest my aunt if she didn't move along.

    • @douglashoward4206
      @douglashoward4206 Před 3 lety +4

      almost all of it.

    • @douglashoward4206
      @douglashoward4206 Před 3 lety +10

      @@joliekae nazi's in charge.

    • @r0xjo0
      @r0xjo0 Před 3 lety +2

      Plenty. Believe it.

    • @punkinhaidmartin
      @punkinhaidmartin Před 3 lety +9

      There are cops who will seize the cash and let drug dealers go on thier way, with thier drug shipments, by arrangement, on a schedule.
      They're all up and down every major interstate highway.

  • @w1.0
    @w1.0 Před 3 lety +17

    How is this not theft??? This pisses me off!!!! Stealing an old man's life savings away from his daughter so now she is unable to take care of her elder Father!!!!! WHAT A DISGRACE!!!!

    • @AlexIranis1
      @AlexIranis1 Před 2 lety

      "Land of the free home of the brave"
      God bless Murica!

    • @gregoryfrickey1715
      @gregoryfrickey1715 Před 12 dny

      HOW DO THESE JACK ASSES GET AWAY WITH THIS CRAP

  • @jimda4910
    @jimda4910 Před 3 lety +35

    One time when I got an insurance settlement I wanted to transfer the money to a different bank. They said they couldn't do that but they could give me the cash. They almost insisted I take the cash. So I said what about a cashier's check, they actually said wouldn't cash be more convenient for you? I had them make a cashier's check.

    • @didyasaysomethin2me
      @didyasaysomethin2me Před 3 lety +6

      @Foxy The Prirate Fox Now disbanded (alleged) drug interdiction unit stops a business traveler alongside the highway, "robs" him of all of his cash, and tells the guy he can keep all of the checks and money orders made out to his business, but somehow is 100% certain that the cash couldn't possibly also be proceeds from the guy's business. It's on CZcams somewhere, most likely on one of the commonly known auditor's channels. Their actions speak for themselves. Not even stupidity could hold a candle to that lunacy.

    • @Mortlupo
      @Mortlupo Před 3 lety +2

      They have stopped someone who just won a jackpot at a casino and stole his money.

    • @jiminykripes4937
      @jiminykripes4937 Před 3 lety +5

      The government steals more than all the crooks in prison across the country. Thou shalt not steal includes the government also. They aren't exempt from that commandment.

    • @lordsothis
      @lordsothis Před 3 lety +5

      I saw one where a cop was watching a check cashing place in a bad area... follow a guy that just cashed his check and seized it even tho he had a pay stub... because the cop said he was about to buy drugs...

  • @afngary
    @afngary Před 3 lety +21

    This is just an example of how useless the Supreme Court is in standing up for peoples rights.

  • @alz258
    @alz258 Před 3 lety +47

    They should be sued personally in a 1984 rules since they are violating well established constitutional rights.

    • @Jujubean9795
      @Jujubean9795 Před 2 lety +2

      Law enforcement has immunity from civil lawsuits.

    • @studiosinger
      @studiosinger Před rokem +2

      The Supreme Court did this to Americans!

    • @lokiva8540
      @lokiva8540 Před rokem

      You probably mean a Section 1983 (ei, 42 USC 1983, or Civil Rights Act of 1871) action....
      Even if incorrect, there is a certain Orwellian nature to all this, aka 1984.

  • @rxdawg75
    @rxdawg75 Před 3 lety +55

    Citizen: Im going to fly with 10k of my own money.
    TSA Screener: Why do you have 9k in cash? Im going to have seize this.
    Low Level cop: Hey TSA Screener...I see you confiscated 8k in cash from a citizen with no record...Ill take it from here.
    Seargent: Hey LT! Our cops found 7k at the airport! Drug smuggler, probably.
    LT: Here ya go assistant District Attorney...all 6k of the seized money from the cartel.
    DA: Well assistant DA...Im not sure we can prosecute for 5k in cash..but we'll try...I mean, its the cartel, ammi right?
    Judge: Yes...Mr. DA...I'll hear the case about the 4k cash and the evil cartel.
    Jury: Guilty of Drug trafficking with the 3k that was seized--shame on you, drug cartel mule.

    • @bamahama707
      @bamahama707 Před 3 lety +2

      Guess where the other 7k went?

    • @SeamyEmail
      @SeamyEmail Před rokem

      @@bamahama707 What other 7k ? Burning children in churches and setting crosses afire never paid much.When was the time you seen a good old fashion lynching.
      Still legal in most parts. Times have changed. People gotta change with it.
      With interest rates being what they are. The kids new braces and the old lady's second car, things mount up you know. So that's where the money went, mister smarty pants. You happy ? You satisfied now ? I didn't say nothing about the KKK.
      Lord is my witness! I heard Lincoln was only five foot three. He had a tall hat, is all. Which he stood on to make speeches.

  • @JiveDadson
    @JiveDadson Před 3 lety +64

    Dissolve the TSA, and return the responsibility of passenger-screening to the airlines. Yeah I know; dream on.

    • @onefodderunit
      @onefodderunit Před 3 lety +1

      Chertoff & 9 * 1 1 It's all a coincidence

    • @gtech66
      @gtech66 Před 3 lety +9

      The TSA is security theater.

    • @player6970
      @player6970 Před 3 lety +2

      Get rid of the DHS and no screening. Just punish Hijackers and Terrorists, shoot them on site.

    • @johnschreiber1574
      @johnschreiber1574 Před 3 lety +1

      Security is a fictitious concept created by government, to justify its existence. TSA, was needed to because the fiction was exposed. Thousands Standing Around.

    • @bamahama707
      @bamahama707 Před 3 lety +1

      The airlines did better at it then the GOVERNMENT ever did...

  • @franciscampagna2711
    @franciscampagna2711 Před 3 lety +46

    "Officer, what made you target the defendant." "I detected the strong odor of cash." Are police required training in armed robbery?

    • @leeroberts925
      @leeroberts925 Před 3 lety +4

      Yes they are taught to steal your money. THEY NEED TO BE IN PRISON.

    • @leeroberts925
      @leeroberts925 Před 3 lety +1

      Is there a law against carrying casj?

    • @tracybennett882
      @tracybennett882 Před 3 lety +1

      Most all of them are crooks, alcoholics, drug addicts and they beat their women.

    • @elpatron7916
      @elpatron7916 Před 2 lety

      Yes cops are now criminals

  • @nancykurtz7333
    @nancykurtz7333 Před 3 lety +105

    Justification for civil asset seizures are
    “Because they can!”

  • @Thumper68
    @Thumper68 Před 3 lety +36

    There is no justification it’s theft period. This happens all the time to people just driving down the road it has nothing to do with international travel.

  • @williamhague2768
    @williamhague2768 Před 3 lety +10

    Keep after these despicable government agencies. I’m very grateful for you attacking these criminal acts. I appreciate your efforts.

  • @paulrose6282
    @paulrose6282 Před 3 lety +16

    This is unlawful

  • @markkaidy8741
    @markkaidy8741 Před 3 lety +11

    Make a 2 part video 1) What to do and not to do when carrying cash at the airport etc 2) How to navigate the system to get it back.

    • @markkaidy8741
      @markkaidy8741 Před 3 lety

      @Up 2U That's the standard border customs declaration for US...

  • @mousem7071
    @mousem7071 Před 3 lety +17

    I wouldn't have even known you need paperwork to travel with cash! I mean its mine I would never think I would have to inform anyone else.

    • @elizabethashby2673
      @elizabethashby2673 Před 2 lety

      Exactly‼️😲🗣. None of anyone else’s business y you have YOUR PROPERTY
      w you‼️😲🗣☹️🇺🇸. Criminals, Inc‼️👎🗣☹️👿😞👺😦👹🤮😡👇🤢😟🥶😥

  • @tinasan3870
    @tinasan3870 Před 3 lety +12

    wow...did I wake up in Mexico ?

  • @wesleybrown4410
    @wesleybrown4410 Před 3 lety +11

    Doesn’t this go against the bill of rights. I can’t remember which one it is but I remember hearing that Americans shall not be deprived of life liberty or property without due process of law.

  • @christianrodier3381
    @christianrodier3381 Před 3 lety +40

    I would be interested to know if the Supreme Court has shown any interest in revisiting Civil Asset Forfeiture.

    • @jamesmurphy2828
      @jamesmurphy2828 Před 3 lety +5

      Believe me everyone gets a piece of the action

    • @Thumper68
      @Thumper68 Před 3 lety +4

      They have not ruled on it directly. They ruled on a case where someone’s vehicle was kept during a stop and arrest but they ruled the vehicle returned because it’s value was much higher then the applicable fines. So it wasn’t technically a ruling against civil asset forfeiture it was against unreasonable fines. Unfortunately The supreme court’s way of not ruling against civil asset forfeiture.

    • @FJB-522
      @FJB-522 Před 3 lety +4

      Trump was all for keeping C.A.F. going but I have a sneaking suspicion that some one talked him into it and has no idea about how many regular people are being totally and completely phuqued over by "law enforcement". Tennessee concentrates it's efforts on cash heading south. They have no interest in stopping the drugs heading north. They want the cash. Tennessee is the worst from what I understand. Thieving bastards.

    • @Doormanswift
      @Doormanswift Před 3 lety +2

      @@FJB-522 Trump signed laws to prevent stuff like this from happening in 2019.
      www.gainesvilletimes.com/news/trump-signs-collins-irs-civil-asset-forfeiture-bill/

    • @friedenhiker1032
      @friedenhiker1032 Před 3 lety +2

      Research "right to travel." The Supreme Court has ruled many times on this matter. Police cannot even lawfully stop a traveler without witnessing a crime (a crime for a natural, living people is ONLY one natural people harming another natural people.) There is even case law that shows one does not need a concealed carry permit as a traveler, either. Right to travel is a great place to start in your study of natural law (the only law that applies to natural people,) because there's so much case law that supports it. Attorneys, bound by the ABA, are not allowed to even tell you about it. Learn!

  • @dr.barrycohn5461
    @dr.barrycohn5461 Před 3 lety +12

    Do you fellas provide a service to help intervene on behalf of citizens who have suffered abuse at the hands of law enforcement.

    • @friedenhiker1032
      @friedenhiker1032 Před 3 lety

      One of their videos explains what they do. They take cases that may win them recognition with the Supreme Court and change policy. IJ cannot help people with natural law, because they are bound by oath to maritime/merchant law, so don't think of it so much as helping people, but changing the policies of commerce. I hope that helps.

  • @aSinisterKiid
    @aSinisterKiid Před 3 lety +6

    All of these agencies have figured out they can abuse the civil forfeiture loophole without any consequences for their heinous and disgusting behavior. They are greedy and heartless in most of these cases and it's quite literally "justified" robbery in their mind. This loophole needs to be closed and these agencies need to face legal consequences for their unconstitutional behavior.

  • @AcmeRacing
    @AcmeRacing Před 3 lety +4

    The authority to take money from others coupled with qualified immunity is the ultimate example of a moral hazard.

  • @misterlyle.
    @misterlyle. Před 3 lety +3

    I remember reading a report that pointed out that the average civil forfeiture of cash is less than one thousand dollars. The point was that the agents involved will know that if the legal expense of a lawsuit exceeds the amount seized, a lawsuit is unlikely. The cases we hear about are like the example in the video. If an innocent citizen is targeted for forfeiture of tens of thousands or more, the lawsuit becomes more compelling.

  • @frederickwilliams147
    @frederickwilliams147 Před 3 lety +5

    It’s not legal to take anyone’s money without proof they have committed a crime!😤

  • @germanespichan114
    @germanespichan114 Před 3 lety +8

    That's robbery, plain and simple..

  • @pamelalaub6204
    @pamelalaub6204 Před 3 lety +4

    In FL people at random vehicular stops had cash confiscated. They were going to auctions requiring cash to buy lockers, cars or houses. The state police or local offices accused them of using the money to buy or have gotten the cash through drug sales - even when proof of why they were carrying cash was provided. There was a huge scandal on Florida's east coast that it was illegal theft. Even after officers were found guilty people didn't get their cash back because they had no proof of how much was stolen by the "officers".

  • @daniels.3062
    @daniels.3062 Před 3 lety +26

    Less than a third were even arrested?! That's evidence that this is simply a money grab.

  • @sknmwms6516
    @sknmwms6516 Před 3 lety +13

    Did she get her money back?

  • @ethansprofile6670
    @ethansprofile6670 Před 3 lety +8

    When you can sue the individual agents who have exceeded their authority, it will stop too.

  • @oldreprobate2748
    @oldreprobate2748 Před 3 lety +7

    Do not carry cash that you can't afford loose to the criminal government. This happens on our streets and highways.

    • @jamesmurphy2828
      @jamesmurphy2828 Před 3 lety

      I can't believe she was planning on going on a airplane with this !
      Living on a Cloud
      It's common knowledge
      DEA will size it !

    • @alb12345672
      @alb12345672 Před 3 lety +1

      @@jamesmurphy2828 It could happen when driving too. Probably much less risk, but its the same.

  • @donaldbingham8990
    @donaldbingham8990 Před 3 lety +3

    They don't actually think the money is suspicious but rather and opportunity.

  • @janice8514
    @janice8514 Před 3 lety +28

    Just a fancy way to legalize theft

  • @LudicrousEngineer
    @LudicrousEngineer Před 8 měsíci +4

    It’s really scary to hear TSA is receiving kickback to violate our 4th amendment basic human rights and for now there is nothing we can do. Thank you for making this video and fighting for our basic human rights

  • @mantan9400
    @mantan9400 Před 3 lety +3

    If no one is there to see that innocent people's money is not stolen by Officials in power then We the people need the names, addresses and photos of all officials that steal money from innocent people....

  • @sebastiansmith4945
    @sebastiansmith4945 Před 3 lety +7

    Listening to you guys makes me want to pursue law. You guys are doing great things

  • @pedrowhack-a-mole6786
    @pedrowhack-a-mole6786 Před 3 lety +3

    Remember the Boston Tea Party? Civil asset forfeiture is just like that, taxation without representation! There needs to be a strong penalty clause for failure or refusal to return assets if they are not proven to be connected to a crime, in a timely fashion. Only punitive and compensatory damages will make it too painful to just take people's money and property, maybe even some jail time for STEALING from the people and violating their rights

  • @MichaelHalsell
    @MichaelHalsell Před 7 měsíci +1

    Great information to consider. Cobbling together information from sites like this suggest the reasonable and proactive solution for the common traveler is to use electronic funds transfer or completely avoid carrying physical currency. The risk of loss is too great and the government actives are premeditated to create a hostile and near impossible logistical labyrinth for the average citizen to recover cash.
    The weakest link of the entire process will be human intention. Money (or sex) is the oldest culprit to expose human flaw.
    But great work for the Institute of Justice for taking a leadership position on legally adjusting the due process of civil forfeiture. Critical taxation and drug enforcement mission statements can continue without the need for strong arm tactics. The improvement is the transparency of due process during common property forfeitures.

  • @MustangsTrainsMowers
    @MustangsTrainsMowers Před 3 lety +6

    Asset forfeiture laws need to be erased state and federal and they should start from scratch.

  • @saintearth
    @saintearth Před 3 lety +3

    They call it the war on drugs. It's the war on people.

  • @johnstibal2131
    @johnstibal2131 Před 3 lety +12

    The stench of the war on drugs is strong with this case.

    • @plalelal
      @plalelal Před 3 lety +1

      They want a cashless society for total control.

  • @manderson3231
    @manderson3231 Před rokem +2

    Thank you Institute For Justice!

  • @tomc.4860
    @tomc.4860 Před 3 lety +2

    The police and DEA, department of Homeland security are getting so dangerous for the American public safety. People are literally getting afraid to leave home because of the arms government agents.

  • @eldiablo7862
    @eldiablo7862 Před 3 lety +3

    There is no law to declare money on a plane for domestic flights......when asked questions do not answer, ask if you are being detained; if not go on your way with your money. If they try to coerce you by saying you are being detained tell them you have nothing to say and request they call your lawyer.
    Note to all.....have a criminal lawyer's card on you and a number in your phone. If out of state your lawyer can procure one for you.

  • @miltonwendall2378
    @miltonwendall2378 Před 3 lety +7

    They can only take Federal Reserve Bank notes, there are other forms of transportable money exempt from confiscation.

    • @MrGoatflakes
      @MrGoatflakes Před 3 lety

      Another reason that their true value is going down the toilet.

    • @DW-ts5ki
      @DW-ts5ki Před 3 lety +1

      I doubt that. It would take your house your car your cash your jewelry your gold your guns, whatever you have. There is no boundary for them.

    • @miltonwendall2378
      @miltonwendall2378 Před 3 lety +1

      Federal Reserve Bank notes, are by law owned by the Federal Reserve and used only for "Bank Ledgering of accounts" between financial institutions. In actuality they are "Credit instruments" for account credit Ledgering.

    • @friedenhiker1032
      @friedenhiker1032 Před 3 lety

      Coins still come from the Treasury, which is why the people were asked to turn in their coins during the lockdowns.

    • @misterlyle.
      @misterlyle. Před 3 lety

      @@DW-ts5ki Seizures of valuable items do occur, especially where an actual crime is suspected, but seizing cash is easier and more profitable even where no crime is evident (as explained in the video).

  • @ethansprofile6670
    @ethansprofile6670 Před 3 lety +9

    That DEA agent peed in his pants he was so happy that he could ruin a taxpayers' life!

  • @gthornton3
    @gthornton3 Před rokem +1

    This is just crazy , btw found your channel through Steve Lehto

  • @phlodel
    @phlodel Před 9 dny

    It's just mind-boggling that cash can be seized and kept without due process.

  • @danielmorgan6779
    @danielmorgan6779 Před 3 lety +4

    This is a unconstitutional practice! Marburg versus Madison in 1803 Supreme Court Case, states that if a law conflicts with the U.S. Constitution, it"s not a law!!! This particular matter is one that I would protest so venomously they probably would have done what they are best at, besides taking what they have no right to take, and that would to be to shoot me!!! I have not had any problems with LEO's in at least 50 years. I'm 69 now. I see law enforcement, regardless of which branch as completely out of control! I have a serious problem with LEO's that act outside of the law and this is wide spread. I respect the law and obey the law! However I do not respect nor do I support bad LEO's, under any circumstances! I watch them everyday as they extort money from people, violate their rights, beat the hell out of people without cause, they shoot unarmed men and women, they use traffic stops to try and find something to arrest you for, thus causing huge delays and illegal seizures of property. LEO's have just begun to feel the hate they work so hard to earn everyday. I have no confidence nor trust at all in our judicial system, elected officials, nor the folks they hire! This election is proof positive that government is corrupt from the top down. Who can trust any of them? The legislators and courts have made so many laws that are either directly or indirectly against the U.S. Constitution. I no longer trust anyone in government and any sane person would have to agree, without a doubt!!!

  • @xander333333
    @xander333333 Před 3 lety +4

    We need to change this!

  • @LtColDaddy71
    @LtColDaddy71 Před 3 lety +3

    It has been this way for 100 years! I’ll one up it and say they can walk into your house and open your freezer!
    Deer permits, tags, property only, antlers or no antlers. It’s mind numbing. I have camera’s all over my timberland, and we watch the development from year to year. We’ll max out on total tags possible in household, and I think that triggered a red flag. We’ve had game warden snooping around, setting up their own cameras. Prob to see if someone is on the trigger and using one of the kids tags 😇
    We’re responsible hunters. Their are two 200 inch plus bucks out there we won’t take in order to keep those genetics on the property. They were huge yearlings, and bigger every year.

    • @justusforrster9264
      @justusforrster9264 Před 3 lety

      Unfortunately Tom, the government doesn't care if you're law abiding citizens or not. They're not snooping around for criminal activity, they want to watch you. Just like a tyrannical police state like Nazi Germany. The army should've torched Hitler's work.

    • @bobfognozzle
      @bobfognozzle Před 3 lety

      Can you shoot their cameras? Unfortunate accident!

  • @chazgurrero3090
    @chazgurrero3090 Před 3 lety +2

    Consult your legal aid advisor on how to protect money before traveling. Make a cashier checks, travelers checks. Wire the funds to your bank. Better make a cashier check. Always consult an attorney. It's worth not having your funds stolen buy all those crooks.

  • @RtistiqSkubie
    @RtistiqSkubie Před 3 lety +1

    1st thing to do if there is a cash seizure FORCE the agent on the scene to ARREST YOU. This begins paperwork that FORCES them to charge you with a crime to justify taking your property in open court. File the forfeiture return paperwork before your court date, they will drag their feet but you want it on filed for when you go to court. Get in touch with a group like IJ, the local media. Get the names of all officers present and file complaints & release through social media.

  • @montwolfman
    @montwolfman Před rokem +2

    What about when agents offer a "deal" whereby the owner forfeits a large portion in return for signing a waiver to not pursue legal action.

    • @lokiva8540
      @lokiva8540 Před rokem +2

      In theory a contract signed under duress or as part of criminal extortion is invalid.
      Try to prove that, or do so without stress and life disruptions and legal costs more than most such thefts by armed thugs....
      For $40k to $250k or more in costs plus several years of elevated stress and lots of time, you may or may not get some of your $20k back.... Which tactically, is part of the scheme.

  • @goodcitizen1379
    @goodcitizen1379 Před 3 lety +2

    I was worried abut that at the airport . I was going to payback the 20 grand i owed to a relative by taking it on a plane to them . But instead I did a 24 hour mail to them . That worked

  • @Ronsgonefishing
    @Ronsgonefishing Před 3 lety +1

    why is the interviewer grinning like this is funny ?

  • @alz258
    @alz258 Před 3 lety +1

    The government really hates people who travel with Cash. I remember a Ron Paul staff member was detain at the airport for having money from book sales.

  • @JGoodwin
    @JGoodwin Před 3 lety +1

    It is unclear to me what would happen if you refused to allow the money to be separated from you unless they present you with the charge of a crime. Does anyone have any information on that situation?

  • @jerrysaylor8910
    @jerrysaylor8910 Před 3 lety +7

    We are living in Germany 1933

  • @kevc6115
    @kevc6115 Před 3 lety +1

    This is bloody disgraceful. In Ireland we have the Crminal Assests Bureau (CAB) first of it's kind globally. They must apply for a warrant to enable them to seize cash 7/or assets. Allowing the Feds to play cop, judge & jury is shocking and wide open to corruption. If the Feds have a genuine reason for concern or illegality then they could seize the money temporarily but should have to apply to a special federal court sitting at the earliest possible oppurtunity.

    • @lokiva8540
      @lokiva8540 Před rokem

      Is it possible to end the Irish promotion of corporate crimes, in the form of a historically huge civil liability cap, that's become a token wrist slap when companies like IAC/I or FuckedBarf create fake headquarters or legal domiciles there?

  • @angelicamichelle1646
    @angelicamichelle1646 Před 3 lety +2

    And we wonder why people are killing our officers

  • @jro1560
    @jro1560 Před 3 lety +1

    She should've have gotten a cashiers check, that being said civil asset forfeiture is nothing more than theft!!! Where the hell is "due process " in all these cases??

  • @alethiapotter9218
    @alethiapotter9218 Před 3 lety +2

    So painful

  • @anneinfurna8528
    @anneinfurna8528 Před 3 lety +5

    She should have done a "Mister T", and should have worn the money as Jewelry.
    Diamonds are a Girls best Friend, Wholesale of course. Anyone?

    • @justusforrster9264
      @justusforrster9264 Před 3 lety

      Yeah and diamonds are really worthless, most common gem known to man. It's only the strongest stone on earth though.

  • @gordoncleaver6068
    @gordoncleaver6068 Před 3 lety +2

    in 2014 cops took over 4 billion in asset forfeiture and has been going higher each year

  • @fleebee3639
    @fleebee3639 Před 3 lety +4

    If I am carrying $5,000 to $10,000 in travelers checks are they safe from seizure? Can travelers checks be seized? If so, can the government cash them without the owner signing them? Can they force the owner to sign them? If seized can you get them replaced as if they were lost or stolen?

    • @jimreimers4213
      @jimreimers4213 Před 3 lety +2

      Good questions, I would think they'd be safe but have no idea for sure. I have honestly forgotten all about them. I had used then decades ago and worked fine in that world back then. Today, your questions red to be asked for sure.

    • @ralphm6901
      @ralphm6901 Před 3 lety

      I'm not a lawyer, but I'd guess they can just keep the checks (and other property) regardless if they can cash them or not. If you take photos of the checks, you'll have a record of them so that you could go back to the bank and report them stolen. Be careful to note that it was an unlawful asset seizure, or you could be setting yourself up for a fraud charge.

    • @friedenhiker1032
      @friedenhiker1032 Před 3 lety

      If you can still get paper checks. I think they've moved to debit cards now. Police carry machines that will clear out your bank account using your bank card, so they might be able to clear the traveler's check card the same way.

    • @ralphm6901
      @ralphm6901 Před 3 lety

      @@friedenhiker1032 I can go to my bank's web page and freeze my card. I wonder if that would prevent the police's magic money sucker from working? I would only unfreeze it to get money from a local ATM.

  • @alexv259
    @alexv259 Před 2 měsíci

    While these seizures are breathtaking and UNJUST, I heard firsthand from someone that a person who sold his house in U.S. and wanted to take $250,000 cash with him to a Middle East country to buy a house there. So this guy a day before his flight with the cash goes to the airport Customs office and explains that he is leaving the country tomorrow with about $250k cash. The Customs gave him bunch of forms to fill out and bunch of officers began counting his cash money for verification. The next day he left with all that cash with no problem. So I wonder how such a contradictory treatment could take place.

  • @tomc.4860
    @tomc.4860 Před 3 lety +1

    The largest needs to change so that police can be charged with death and robbery and a judge can look at the facts of the case without knowing that it was police involvement and then he can decide whether it was staffed or robbery just by the facts of the case.

  • @james_gemma
    @james_gemma Před 3 lety +2

    I commend all of you for fighting for our rights, its not easy to defend freedom and justice.

  • @samjordan8800
    @samjordan8800 Před 3 lety

    What sucks even more is, if you stop carrying cash and deposit the money into a national or international bank, then in many cases they try to claim you are structuring or smurfing.
    So then they take the money out of your bank account!

  • @Teporame
    @Teporame Před 3 lety +2

    Highway robbery. How is that possible in the land where private property is sacred. Utter hypocrisy.

    • @AlexIranis1
      @AlexIranis1 Před 2 lety

      "Land of the free home of the brave"
      God bless Murica!

  • @sonyou98
    @sonyou98 Před 3 lety

    You guys are fantastic. I will donate money to your agency. Sincerely Chris Garland

  • @private464
    @private464 Před 2 lety

    Q: WHAT can we do to protect ourselves, so that it is NOT seized to begin with?
    Would receipts be enough?? Would reporting over 10,000 for international travel with receipts, solve the problem OR would it just "open the door" for them to seize it? Thanks

  • @madmaxthrax2964
    @madmaxthrax2964 Před 3 lety +3

    Thanks for fighting for the people

  • @wrcummings
    @wrcummings Před 2 lety

    Even simpler put it in a checking account at the departure city, right a check to yourself in the checking account that is yours in the city you are moving to.

  • @tatianaschoenfield9819

    Seizure without proof of crime or being sentenced as guilty in a court of law??

  • @terriblepainter7675
    @terriblepainter7675 Před 8 měsíci

    I put my notes in rubber bands at home… didn’t know this made me a drug trafficker 😂

  • @AlexeiTetenov
    @AlexeiTetenov Před 3 lety

    Keep Pressing!

  • @RJ-sr5dv
    @RJ-sr5dv Před 3 lety +1

    It's no wonder why people go postal

  • @Torsin2000
    @Torsin2000 Před 3 lety +1

    I agree that asset forfeiture without a conviction should be illegal, and the mere presence of a large sum of money on it's own does not rise to the reasonable suspicion that a crime has been committed.
    With that said, stop traveling with large sums of money. If your bank has no branch in the immediate area then go open a savings account with a national bank in the immediate area OR arrange for a small fee to wire transfer it OR get a bank to issue a cashier's check to you for the amount. All of these are better methods of transferring a large amount of money into a bank account in your local area than traveling with it as cash.
    Also, pro-tip for anyone who does all their banking at a bank that is only available locally open a savings account at a national bank and just deposit say $100 every quarter/year or whatever you can afford to keep it "active". Then if you are ever in this type of scenario you have a means as a customer of a branch of that national bank to deposit the cash without needing to travel with large sums of cash. Of course you have to let the bank know about the providence of the money, as they will have to report it up to fec.

  • @FatihKarakurt
    @FatihKarakurt Před 3 lety +8

    It's it ironic that if you're traveling with large amount of cash, the robbers you should be most worried about are the cops!

  • @justusforrster9264
    @justusforrster9264 Před 3 lety +2

    Corgial tyranny is what we have in this country. We're definitely not free, and haven't been for a long time.

  • @robbrobb659
    @robbrobb659 Před 3 lety +1

    Try and get the supreme court to hear a case

  • @Mrmanu237
    @Mrmanu237 Před 6 měsíci

    TSA only job is to make sure you don't have a huge bottle of shampoo

  • @ppumpkin3282
    @ppumpkin3282 Před 3 lety +2

    This why we have people like Timothy McVeigh. Our government is working against us.

  • @ardevenuta37
    @ardevenuta37 Před 3 lety +2

    My way. Find out the name of the individual agent. Go to his or her home. Then, YOU know. 80k, is well worth the consequences.

  • @9876karthi
    @9876karthi Před 3 lety +1

    So they take the money as suspected drug transfer, but file as civil forfeiture so that the people can't get back. 👌

  • @mantan9400
    @mantan9400 Před 3 lety +1

    All I have to say there is no place for these corrupt officials to hide and NO one is above the laws of Physics....
    LIfe is good.
    Be good people...

  • @KennedyWalker
    @KennedyWalker Před 3 lety +1

    Saying that criminals can steal money legally discredits you.

  • @spikes1529
    @spikes1529 Před 3 lety

    doing gods work, keep it up.

  • @rudiwiedemann8173
    @rudiwiedemann8173 Před 3 lety +2

    Hey, cool, your cop car was “Involved in a crime” so I’m just going to seize it ! Oh yeah, and give me that gun and belt while you’re at it.

  • @steveneasterling8832
    @steveneasterling8832 Před 2 lety

    So much for “ To serve and protect “ mission statement !

  • @g.t.g1111
    @g.t.g1111 Před 2 lety +1

    This will make a good movie 🎬. A local (Sheriff ) takes a law abiding citizens money and the local government refuses to return the funds after citizen did everything correctly was required of them. Here’s the twist. The citizen is a judge or politician in another state. Taking money 💰 to help a family member who dies because of forfeiture laws and the local government will not return the funds.

  • @jth1699
    @jth1699 Před 3 lety +1

    Ok folks listen up - there is a very simple way to get your money back - what you have to do is to MAKE A CLAIM TO THE AGENCY WHO SEIZED IT. Your due process is in the post seizure hearing - the money is seized on a presumption - once the claim is made the burden shifts to the government to prove a connection to a crime... what you do is to take the seizure to court - the rules are the supplemental rules of admiralty procedure ... you can have your money back in 3 days - the problem is lawyers dont know how to handle a federal seizure - once a claim is made the seizure is moved to a high speed process that is judicial ... DO NOT USE THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURE - I have gotten money returned in 3 days... contact me if you need help...

    • @AlexIranis1
      @AlexIranis1 Před 2 lety

      And how do we contact you?!

    • @jth1699
      @jth1699 Před 2 lety

      @@AlexIranis1 post a way for me to contact you

  • @Mikenorma
    @Mikenorma Před 3 lety +2

    If she had gotten a cashiers check and travelled with the check could they take the check?

    • @Mikenorma
      @Mikenorma Před 3 lety

      @Up 2U I thought you only had to declare anything over 10,000 if you were leaving the country.

  • @lokiva8540
    @lokiva8540 Před rokem

    One major side issue Roger Pilon of Cato used to champion, is that however corrupt or limited asset forfeiture policies are, they're less abused if parity exists across agencies, rather than one or more of armed thug paper pushers for Fed or state drug or tax or other scammers, and local, county, state, and Fed cops, do not have some agencies with massive armed thugs with badges theft policies or kickbacks to cohorts, and others with severe limits on seizures, kickbacks, or funds to pay off more cop toys versus general fund only uses.
    Mismatches in such policies result in agencies or departments with strict limits seeking to have a more abusive entity take a lead role in an extortion and theft conspiracy, while entities with policies to give out high kickbacks or split the loot like pirates tend to encourage other agencies to seek "ride alongs" or conspire to make themselves secondary to others as lead.
    While having policies that armed thugs with badges crime gangs keep none of their loot work best, 3 to 5 agency ride alongs that strategically play different laws and policies against each other for profit, to fund more cops, more cop toys, and more operations, are a worst case common scenario.