Twin Pouch Tutorial - Spencer Ogg Patterns. Double Pencil case

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  • čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
  • An amazingly quick and beginner friendly project, needs very few components and you can make it in just about any shape and size to suit your requirements. Designed for domestic sewing machines.
    diy bag, diy pouch, pencil case
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Komentáře • 191

  • @Ella-49
    @Ella-49 Před 2 lety +3

    Thanks for this sweet pouch pattern and tutorial. So cute "just snip it off...don't tell a quilter or I'll be in trouble". lol

  • @lindashine573
    @lindashine573 Před 2 lety +3

    Looks like a great pattern to get beginners over their zipper and binding fears!

  • @alicejackson3029
    @alicejackson3029 Před rokem +2

    Just found your site and CZcams tutorials. Your detailed instructions are fabulous....thank you, Diane, I've subscribed and will watch all past videos to learn more.

    • @SpencerOgg
      @SpencerOgg  Před rokem

      I have a bag making Facebook board too for help and support with my patterns and just general bag making chat. You are welcome to join here: facebook.com/groups/spencerogg

  • @PCOH051610
    @PCOH051610 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Made this yesterday and it is adorable. Thank you for sharing your talent with us!

    • @SpencerOgg
      @SpencerOgg  Před 8 měsíci

      Fantastic! Do join my bag sewing Facebook board and show your photos we'd love to see them: facebook.com/groups/spencerogg

  • @Staffsknot
    @Staffsknot Před rokem +2

    I have loved watching your tutorial. Not done any bag making YET but this certainly inspires. Thank you.

  • @scoutrifle6827
    @scoutrifle6827 Před rokem +4

    This is great-and it's nice to see someone teaching sewing with incredibly precise and neat stitching; not always the case. :)

    • @SpencerOgg
      @SpencerOgg  Před rokem

      Thank you! 😊 Glad you enjoyed it

  • @ninibartolome5666
    @ninibartolome5666 Před 2 lety +1

    Diane, you wizard! Your fabric doesn’t shift at all when you sew. You’re amazing! Love you! 😘

    • @SpencerOgg
      @SpencerOgg  Před 2 lety +1

      Oh thank you! hold on tight (and use a walking foot) lol

  • @traceyseymour7700
    @traceyseymour7700 Před 2 lety +2

    Gday, from australia. Just became a new subscriber..thank you xxx

  • @CordulaPrice
    @CordulaPrice Před rokem +1

    Thank you for sharing 😊

  • @sandrataylor3563
    @sandrataylor3563 Před 2 lety +3

    Thank you for another fabulous freebie Diane x

  • @tracyalbert6056
    @tracyalbert6056 Před 2 lety +3

    Thank you Diane. Another amazing pouch.

  • @thesparrowsnest8343
    @thesparrowsnest8343 Před 2 lety +2

    Just finished my first twin pouch and I love it! Thanks Diane for such a quick and easy tutorial. We didn’t even need a tea break! 😂

  • @traceypurves9518
    @traceypurves9518 Před 2 lety +2

    Fabulous. Thank you for the free pattern. Your tutorials are the only ones I can follow ❤️🙏

  • @elsiebulva7872
    @elsiebulva7872 Před 2 lety +4

    Love this. Will organizer my bag in a more accessible fashion especially for cords while travelling . Thank you again for your generosity .

  • @hanlinc1
    @hanlinc1 Před 2 lety +2

    Thank you for the free pattern and tutorial. You are such a joy to follow, I have made other bags from your site. I will be making this with my granddaughter after she picks out the fabrics, she turns 5 years old in a few weeks and she has her own stash, LOL. She got hooked at a young age to sewing and collecting fabric/patterns.

    • @SpencerOgg
      @SpencerOgg  Před 2 lety +1

      Wonderful! That so lovely to hear, hope she enjoys making it

  • @cvetkahenderson723
    @cvetkahenderson723 Před 2 lety +4

    Love it. Would be great for all my charging cords.

    • @SpencerOgg
      @SpencerOgg  Před 2 lety

      Definitely! Fits my phone in the medium size too

  • @delphinepiaskowski2784
    @delphinepiaskowski2784 Před 2 lety +1

    I finally got my email and my pattern. Thank you for your help. This was the first time I got the email..

  • @patriciasinclair3210
    @patriciasinclair3210 Před 2 lety +1

    Like this. Thank You x

  • @conqueringmountscrapmorewi2509

    Such a cute sewing project! Thanks for sharing!

  • @cyn4rest
    @cyn4rest Před 2 lety +1

    Adorable, useful, and quick! Love it. Thank you. My mind is already whizzing with ideas. Edit: On lazy days, we can just Serge the inside seam. Done.

  • @bikergirl7823
    @bikergirl7823 Před 2 lety +1

    Nice little project thanks. I find cutting a strip of the waterproof canvas good for binding

  • @janetgasston9888
    @janetgasston9888 Před 2 lety +2

    Thank you Diane for another great pattern LOVE IT .Can't wait to make some. Love the inside fabric.

  • @pepsiklaire
    @pepsiklaire Před 2 lety +1

    I’m just giving this another watch and I have to say that nail varnish is stunning!!! Bag isn’t too bad either 😂
    I’m off to make a few thank you for the free pattern xx

    • @SpencerOgg
      @SpencerOgg  Před 2 lety +1

      Oh thank you! 😂 Enjoy making them!

    • @pepsiklaire
      @pepsiklaire Před 2 lety

      @@SpencerOgg what nail varnish is it? I never have much luck with metallic paint they always look rubbish! 😊

    • @SpencerOgg
      @SpencerOgg  Před 2 lety

      @@pepsiklaire It's actually gel - I have it done at the nail salon - I took a piece of fabric to match up 🤣

  • @contagioncreationsnyc
    @contagioncreationsnyc Před 2 lety +2

    Love your teaching style and your patterns are fantastic ☺️

  • @loishealan3794
    @loishealan3794 Před 2 lety +1

    This bag is really cute and very versatile. It looks so simple to make! Thanks for a great pattern.

    • @SpencerOgg
      @SpencerOgg  Před 2 lety

      You won't believe how quick it is!

  • @fionapaton7019
    @fionapaton7019 Před 2 lety +1

    Great pouches thank you Diane.Very clear instructions! Will definitely be trying to make some

  • @nancys4874
    @nancys4874 Před 2 lety +1

    Wonderful tutorial. I'm going to make one, but with uneven sides. A shorter side for my reading glasses and a larger side for my e reader!

  • @susiemartinwnek8041
    @susiemartinwnek8041 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you...so fun.....will be making more!!

  • @clombard7134
    @clombard7134 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you Diane for this fabulous project! So generous of you!

  • @triciamcfarland8823
    @triciamcfarland8823 Před 2 lety +1

    I’m excited to make this. I think the middle size will be perfect for this new makeup I just started using. One side to hold the compact with all my makeup and the other side to hold my makeup brushes. Yay. Thank you.

  • @DiScarrott
    @DiScarrott Před 2 lety +2

    Fantastic tutorial as always. Thanks so much for all the links they are so useful xx

    • @SpencerOgg
      @SpencerOgg  Před 2 lety

      Thanks Di - look forward to seeing what you make xx

  • @karenmerrell4077
    @karenmerrell4077 Před 2 lety +1

    Awesome and easy pattern. Thanks for sharing. I love your teaching method.

  • @kelleymckell
    @kelleymckell Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks so much for this free pattern and great tutorial! I just made my first one. I added a wrist strap and an interior pocket/card slot. I will be making more. Thanks again!

    • @SpencerOgg
      @SpencerOgg  Před 2 lety +1

      Sounds great! Keep blinging them out!

  • @osusanna3619
    @osusanna3619 Před 2 lety +2

    I love this pouch! Thank you for the pattern and your excellent instructions. Can’t wait to make it (or several).

  • @thermolou
    @thermolou Před 2 lety +1

    Another awesome pattern! I can't wait to get started on one. Thanks Diane!

  • @papercents
    @papercents Před 2 lety +1

    Fabulous! Thank you for the pattern & your easy to understand directions & video.

  • @justynathandmade
    @justynathandmade Před 2 lety +1

    What a genius idea! It gave me so many ideas, great video. Thank you!

  • @cosette1951
    @cosette1951 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you. I’ve enjoyed watching this tutorial 👏👏

  • @cathymackay5534
    @cathymackay5534 Před 2 lety +1

    I wish I was this neat! Lovely bag…thank you xxx

    • @SpencerOgg
      @SpencerOgg  Před 2 lety +1

      It's just practice - sew a couple and yours will be just as tidy xxx

  • @gwendowell2513
    @gwendowell2513 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks Diane. Another great idea.

  • @frankiehorstman6519
    @frankiehorstman6519 Před 2 lety +1

    Great pattern & video. Thank you! Making my first right now!!! Great gift idea.

  • @pathowe6443
    @pathowe6443 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for the pattern Diane.

  • @sonialovesewing2396
    @sonialovesewing2396 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank u for the free pattern Diane 😚 I love it! Great gift idea, an essential item too. U are so giving. I want to make so many of ur patterns. I made the Carggan

    • @SpencerOgg
      @SpencerOgg  Před 2 lety

      Thanks Sonia, hope you enjoy it xx

  • @janedrews3255
    @janedrews3255 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you Diane , you are so good to us x Hugs janie

  • @MW14580
    @MW14580 Před 2 lety +1

    as always, excellent pattern and tutorials.

  • @claudiad9618
    @claudiad9618 Před 2 lety +1

    I can't wait to get started. So lovely.

  • @juliediggles2388
    @juliediggles2388 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you Diane X looking forward to making this, thank you so much for a lovely free pattern x

  • @donnabennett4562
    @donnabennett4562 Před 2 lety +1

    Love these bags and your tips on sewing them. Very professional. Please send me the PDF of the patterns for the different sizes.

    • @SpencerOgg
      @SpencerOgg  Před 2 lety

      Sign up to the newsletter (if you are not already subscribed) to grab the FREE PDF document for other the other sizes shown: mailchi.mp/spencerogg/landing-page

  • @debbiemason1509
    @debbiemason1509 Před 2 lety +2

    looking forward to making this, thank you so much for a lovely free pattern x

  • @GambianJane
    @GambianJane Před 2 lety +1

    Lovely simple but effective project. Thank you once again. Can I just mention that as someone hard of hearing I find your speech starts off very clear and then tends to fade towards the end some sentences. It has not stopped me from understanding but it does make me backtrack sometime.

  • @barbaraellen5090
    @barbaraellen5090 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you. a lovely little pouch.

  • @bevmorris7685
    @bevmorris7685 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you so much for the excellent pattern!

  • @mekalb3679
    @mekalb3679 Před 2 lety +1

    You have great ideas and tutorials

  • @joycewaddington4386
    @joycewaddington4386 Před 2 lety +1

    Thankyou so much Diane can't wait to make this x

    • @SpencerOgg
      @SpencerOgg  Před 2 lety

      Look forward to seeing your pics xx

  • @MarciaBaker1205
    @MarciaBaker1205 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for this tutorial it's very cute!

  • @annibridge5387
    @annibridge5387 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks ago for a brill pattern, first thing tomoz will be having a go

  • @tracy-kay
    @tracy-kay Před 2 lety +1

    Love it❣️ just made 2…sew simple and easy thank you

  • @nancystocker357
    @nancystocker357 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks, great demo and looks fun to make!

  • @madelinevelazquez7891
    @madelinevelazquez7891 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you. Great pattern and video.

  • @wangarisal8574
    @wangarisal8574 Před 2 lety +1

    Amazing thank you for sharing, will definitely make a few.

  • @chrishawke6911
    @chrishawke6911 Před 2 lety +1

    Flipping awesome!!!! 💝💝💝💝💝

  • @barbarastraley6168
    @barbarastraley6168 Před 2 lety +2

    Thank you Diane for the pattern and the tutorial! 🥰

  • @grammiefish
    @grammiefish Před 2 lety +1

    Love this easy pouch! Your instruction was awesome!!

  • @brendathompson6658
    @brendathompson6658 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks so much. Lovely pattern.

  • @cherylgapinski1134
    @cherylgapinski1134 Před 2 lety +1

    Very cute. Thanks so much.

  • @reneashbaugh7928
    @reneashbaugh7928 Před 2 lety +4

    This is great!! I shared with another friend, I know she will love to try this out. I'm going to make one today! I have a question for you, what are the finished dimensions of each bag? I have a girlfriend who loves double zip bags for her cash, just trying to figure out which would be the best size. THANK YOU!

  • @judithmutters5732
    @judithmutters5732 Před 2 lety +1

    Ooooh I love this! Thanks so much 🥰

  • @baharcahobi
    @baharcahobi Před 2 lety +1

    Paylaşım için teşekkürler 😊❤

  • @deborahstagg7804
    @deborahstagg7804 Před 2 lety +1

    These look very useful!! Great pattern. I am already signed up for your newsletter but would love the PDF for these.

    • @SpencerOgg
      @SpencerOgg  Před 2 lety +1

      Just check the last newsletter Deborah, there was a big blue button in the middle to download PDF I'll try and upload it to my blog or FB for those who missed it

  • @flc9735
    @flc9735 Před 2 lety +1

    Love it! Thank you very much!!

  • @cathymackay5534
    @cathymackay5534 Před 2 lety +1

    Made one for myself - and friends have ordered four more! I accept donations for The Hedgehoggery Rescue, with its Hogspital, and Aireworth Dogs in Need…I don’t make any money for myself. All for charity, so I hope that’s within the rules. Cheers, xxx

  • @v.r.sumner9693
    @v.r.sumner9693 Před 2 lety

    Very clever! Thanks so much!

  • @dianaviera6228
    @dianaviera6228 Před 2 lety +1

    Very cute ~ thank you 😊

  • @carolskooge5044
    @carolskooge5044 Před 2 lety +1

    You are so cute and cherry. Love your videos. 🙌🏻

  • @lisavantonder9261
    @lisavantonder9261 Před 2 lety +3

    Diane this is another lovely tutorial thank you! May I please ask where you source your waterproof canvas? I’m in the UK - I’m going to make matching sets with your fabulous Escape pod pattern Lx

  • @sandiegal2070
    @sandiegal2070 Před 2 lety +1

    what is the brand of your pink snips you use ??I really like the looks of them.( yours are pink, and I did not see them on Amazon..) I like YOURS.. loving your helpful video.and will go make one right away !

    • @SpencerOgg
      @SpencerOgg  Před 2 lety +1

      There is no brand name on them and I have had them a long time - I can't remember where I when I purchased if I'm honest. These are the nearest ones I can come up with for you now Sandie: amzn.to/3hA8Z9j

    • @sandiegal2070
      @sandiegal2070 Před 2 lety

      @@SpencerOgg thank you for the reply…yours look much better.

  • @kimthompson2610
    @kimthompson2610 Před 2 lety +1

    thank you for the pattern! I don't see any links for PDF for other measurements below the video and I didn't receive your newsletter?
    Thank you again!

    • @SpencerOgg
      @SpencerOgg  Před 2 lety

      Sign up to the newlsetter (if you are not already subscribed) to grab the FREE PDF document for other the other sizes shown, it will be delivered on e-mail: mailchi.mp/spencerogg/landing-page
      You get an e-mail sent out to confirm you wanted to sign up, which you have to click on first - please check your spam folder and also that your mailbox isnt full (There have been quite a few queries becuase of that)

    • @kimthompson2610
      @kimthompson2610 Před 2 lety

      Hi Diane. I was already subscribed but didn't receive the email. I subscribed again but still haven't received confirmation?

  • @annefarnham718
    @annefarnham718 Před rokem +1

    Is there a way to add a crossbody strap? I love this bag!

    • @SpencerOgg
      @SpencerOgg  Před rokem +1

      It's not really the right construction (or structure) for adding crossbody straps perfectly - you could, but it will never really sit quite right. (A wrist strap would be fine from the side seam) - have a look at my Double Clutch Crossbody here for a more structured 2-sided bag that is designed to have a strap. www.spencerogg.com/product/bundle-the-regular-and-large-double-clutch-crossbody-pdf-sewing-pattern/

    • @annefarnham718
      @annefarnham718 Před rokem

      @@SpencerOgg thank you. That pattern will be perfect

  • @bernedicte5860
    @bernedicte5860 Před 2 lety +1

    directly on my todo

  • @teresakeogh9572
    @teresakeogh9572 Před 2 lety +1

    Brilliant project as usual I am not tech friendly usually have help around on my own now don’t know how to get the text at the bottom can only get comments 🤷‍♀️help please

    • @SpencerOgg
      @SpencerOgg  Před 2 lety +1

      Sign up to the newlsetter (if you are not already subscribed) to grab the FREE PDF document for other the other sizes shown, it will be delivered on e-mail: mailchi.mp/spencerogg/landing-page

    • @teresakeogh9572
      @teresakeogh9572 Před 2 lety

      @@SpencerOgg I am already signed up it just me sometimes I get it sometimes not

  • @elainen5151
    @elainen5151 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for the free pattern. I love pouches but sometimes can't remember what's inside. Do you think a light weight clear vinyl could be used on the exterior?

    • @SpencerOgg
      @SpencerOgg  Před 2 lety

      I think so! Why not give it a go - we'd love to see it

  • @rebeccacox9726
    @rebeccacox9726 Před 2 lety +1

    Do you think this could be done without raw edges and having to cover with bias if that makes sense

    • @SpencerOgg
      @SpencerOgg  Před 2 lety +1

      Yes you can bag the whole thing out if you prefer, just leave a gap in the lining and turn through - its just quicker this way xx

    • @rebeccacox9726
      @rebeccacox9726 Před 2 lety

      @@SpencerOgg thank you, I’m a ocd with open seems and not sure on them

  • @karenpalmer9988
    @karenpalmer9988 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for such a awesome pattern Diane! Great tutorial too! I'm having a problem with getting the pdf pattern sizes to go to my email... I sign up for the newsletter, and then go check my email, and nothing is there from you. Did this twice, and also checked my spam, and nothing is there... Can you help me with this please? Thank you

    • @SpencerOgg
      @SpencerOgg  Před 2 lety

      just e-mail me and I can check you are on the list (Check your spam folder first tho) sales@spencerogg.com

  • @carolhiller1112
    @carolhiller1112 Před 2 lety +1

    Please could you tell me the size bungee cord you used and if possible a link to it? I think these bags will be great for my granddaughter to take to school for her sanitary products. Thank you 😍😍

    • @SpencerOgg
      @SpencerOgg  Před 2 lety +1

      I used 2mm from Ebay here: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/283260732593

    • @carolhiller1112
      @carolhiller1112 Před 2 lety

      @@SpencerOgg thank you so much xx

  • @dorothydavenport6595
    @dorothydavenport6595 Před 2 lety +1

    what is the size of the large pouch please?

    • @SpencerOgg
      @SpencerOgg  Před 2 lety

      I’m still getting lots of queries on how to get the document so I’ve now added it to the blog for anyone who missed it - you can download here: www.spencerogg.com/effortless-twin-pouch/

  • @runnergurl61
    @runnergurl61 Před 2 lety +1

    What stitch length do you use when you baste the zipper?

    • @SpencerOgg
      @SpencerOgg  Před 2 lety

      I had mine set to 2.7 for the whole thing. I would normally increase it to 3 for topstitching on lighter fabrics like this.

  • @michellehale8962
    @michellehale8962 Před 2 měsíci

    The link for the PDF doesn’t work anymore. How could I get it at this time? Such a cool double pouch!

    • @SpencerOgg
      @SpencerOgg  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Please sign up via my new newsletter link to receive www.spencerogg.com/join-mailing-list/

  • @delphinepiaskowski2784
    @delphinepiaskowski2784 Před 2 lety +1

    I belong to your blog but I can never get the free PDF patterns. I would like this twin bag one for the other sizes. Can you help?

    • @SpencerOgg
      @SpencerOgg  Před 2 lety

      Sign up to the newsletter (if you are not already subscribed) to grab the FREE PDF document for other the other sizes shown: mailchi.mp/spencerogg/landing-page

  • @joycewaddington4386
    @joycewaddington4386 Před 2 lety +1

    Can't seem to find where the different size measurements are ,can anyone help please

    • @SpencerOgg
      @SpencerOgg  Před 2 lety

      Sign up to the newlsetter (if you are not already subscribed) to grab the FREE PDF document for other the other sizes shown: mailchi.mp/spencerogg/landing-page

  • @delphinepiaskowski2784

    I must be doing something wrong, I have signed up for the newsletter several times and still no pattern.

    • @SpencerOgg
      @SpencerOgg  Před 2 lety

      You get an e-mail to confirm you wanted to sign up, which you have to click on first - please check your spam folder Delphine and also that your mailbox isnt full (There have been quite a few queries becuase of that)

  • @eileenalderman9606
    @eileenalderman9606 Před 2 lety +1

    Can’t find the pattern

    • @SpencerOgg
      @SpencerOgg  Před 2 lety

      Sign up to the newsletter (if you are not already subscribed) to grab the FREE PDF document for other the other sizes shown: mailchi.mp/spencerogg/landing-page

    • @eileenalderman9606
      @eileenalderman9606 Před 2 lety

      I am subscribed but it didn’t take me to pattern

    • @michellehale8962
      @michellehale8962 Před 2 měsíci

      I also subscribed and still couldn’t access the pattern. Please?

  • @delphinepiaskowski2784

    I still have not received my email even though I have joined several times. I added your address to my address book and checked my spam folder. Still nothing. I want the measurements for the eyeglass case.

    • @SpencerOgg
      @SpencerOgg  Před 2 lety

      Its all automatic I promise Delphine, I just checked the mailing list for you, you are on there - and it shows it went out and the e-mail being opened on the day it arrived with you. So I'm stumped. E-mail me direct if any problems.
      You can find it free on my blog and in the files section of my facebook group though too