Nice video 👍 As always 😊 This test i found most interesting. Ps. I will never ever stay away from Mk 262 ammunition 😉 As mentioned at 1.07 min. Keep up the good work 😊
As a Military Rifle Instructor assisting the USAMU deliver SDM Training I’ve witnessed a lot of rack grade M16A4’s shot by students in bipod supported prone position where their Mk262 rounds held an MOA at 600 meters when wind was correctly appraised and eyeballs were consistently placed behind eye box of ACOG. No doubt this is testimony for the rifle, ammunition, and student marksmanship. For best results at any distance/ target the Blackhills Mk262 round is boss. Now, in US Service Rifle Competition this round is ideal for 200 and 300 yard stages for the non-handloarder. At 600 yards the 80 grain Berger is a better performer having an MOA wind constant of 10 vs the 8.5 from the 77 grain bullet. One more thing, add a free float rail to M4 or M16A4 for assured sub MOA even from hard hold.
Honestly I believe the ammunition is extremely overrated when it comes to terminal ballistics. Usually anywhere from 4"-6" penetration before expansion and penetration depth seems rather inconsistent. It's still an amazing round that carries beautiful accuracy. It's definitely a top 5 or arguably top 3 contender. I personally believe a heavy, bonded softpoint from 62 - 75g gives a much better overall result across practically all barrel lengths and twists. I've been able to get sub moa with Speers 62g & 75g with ease and the results I've personally seen on coyotes, large feral hogs & whitetail deer here on the ranch have been phenomenal when directly compared to sierras 77g offering.
@@TerminalM193 It is overrated. It's more modern, updated brother on the other hand (77gr tipped matchking) is the best performing 5.56 out there. Amazing what increasing the size of a hollowpoint and adding a polymer tip can do for terminal ballistics.
@@TerminalM193 it’s very well known in hunting circles. Let’s just say it has a good track record of putting down deer and much larger game. Beast of a bullet. It doesn’t penetrate quite as much as bonded or monos (still exits on rib shots) and leaves a lot of fragments behind, but the wound channel it makes dwarfs them. Really impressive stuff.
Pretty impressive. Do you plan on testing AAC's new 77gr load, the one with their in-house bullet? It'd be interesting to see how that compares, since it's about half the price.
@Buffman - R.A.N.G.E. Hopefully it's loaded hot enough. Based on your tests, their loads can't even hit box velocity, and their box velocities seem lower than other loads of the same grain.
You can get an equivalent hand load from RE-15, about 25.5 grains in Winchester Brass primed with Winchester Primers. This has been popularized by US Service Rifle Competitors.
@@charlesludwig9173 I've been doing the Sierra matchking since before they had one with a cannelure. I had that cannelure each bullet by hand back in the old days. The right now I'm using lake City brass and 25 grains of bLC 2
Excellent video. I'd like to see the results of this ammo compared to the original stoner concept of 20 inch barrel and 55 grain fmj ammunition. See the difference in ballistics and judge the pros and cons of each weapons system objectively on intended purpose,useability and perfomance
@@MyLonewolf25for BC and flatter shooting. A shame no one but IMI can reliably copy black hills powder formular. Some say the secret is the primer. I think BH mixes powders to achieve the FPS the military specified
@@hansgruber9685 Compared to M193. For the frangibles, you need to compare a similarly constructed bullet. 77gr TMK for example, which is a polymer tipped hollowpoint. It's like a 55gr varmint round that does more damage and actually penetrates decently.
Over $800 for 500 rounds currently. The m855a2 round is supposed to be better but it’s $2 per round and I’m not convinced it’s legitimately being sourced and supplied by vendors so staying away from that one.
@@SantosGunworks Wow, really? I've been leaning towards criterion for a while, but if that's true then it seals the deal. Any idea why? I don't think they run 5r rifling or anything like that.
While I have never shot any black hills ammo, I just look up the price of the black hills 77 gr otm and it's any where between $1.27- $1.30 a round at midway usa. I've just started using the aac 77 gr otm and it's very accurate and it's only $0.55 a round.
It’s recently increased in price again so I’m not sure if it’s worth it now but I’ve a had some buddy’s that use sigs 77 grain performance Ammo?? It’s a white box of sig but I’ve heard that’s some pretty good stuff
Load my own out of a 20" SPR barrel and getting consistent 2750 ft/sec. Looks like beyond 20" you're getting diminishing returns (only 50ft/sec more from a 22" barrel). Considering buying a 24" bull barrel to stretch the round past 750yards. curious to see what velocity you would get from a 24" barrel. Any plans to add a 24" to the list of barrels in the future? great video.
@johnholder9062 exactly. Black hills is undeniably good. But the aac with Sierra match king bullet is 15.99. And it's a fantastic copy of the black hills.
@BuffRange this comment is on your Black Hills mk262 vid. Curious if you have tried the Sig 223 77 grn SMK ammo? I just shot 4 separate sub MOA 5 shot groups at 300 yards with that ammo, I was getting an average of 2730fps out of a 20" White Oak Precision service rifle. Needless to say, I was very impressed as I cant even get that out of my handloads with 77 SMK's. Edit to add that it was Sig Sauer 223 Elite Match 77 gr OTM not their 5.56 although both are listed as 2750fps
I have not. Sometimes I have to balance what I can spend funds on for the month, and I try whenever possible to get the ammo donated to me. I'll have to see if Sig can help me.
I’ve tried duplicating this and with imr 3031 5rds touch at 100 but with low charge…I’ve got 7 or 8 5.56 loads developed for 16” from 53gr v max to 85gr nosler rdf which you ought to try…55gr blitzkings shot excellently also…can’t make the 3240fps my turrets calibrated for without pressure and past 3k never could make a group…I’ve got many hrs on 7.62” also…
Im going to imagine the 77gr Sierra TMK performs similar. But seeing 2000fps out of a 7.5" barrel, and seeing reports of it fragmenting at even 1900fps will make it a very good defensive round that is not barrier blind.
I found yesterday that loading the TMK to magazine length the ogive is more than halfway down the neck. Could result in bullet setback during clambering. I'll find out soon.
I know there's a picture floating around the internet that someone took of a gel block that was hit by the 77 tmk that supposedly they had downloaded to below 1600fps and it was still getting some awesome expansion
Please test Meade industries 77gr otm. Got a bunch after researching who they were. Supposed to be more accurate than any other loading. Not to mention it’s much cheaper than black hills
Vortex 3&5x microprisms have pretty much identical eye relief. Actually 5x has a tiny bit larger one so I don't think this is as simple and linear a relationship based solely on magnification.
I am glad the term "recoil Impulse" was not used in this video. That term drives me nuts because recoil implies an impulse and to use the two in the same sentence is extremely redundant. Sorry! I had to vent!
Has anybody figured out what kind of powder BH is using in this load these days? None of the US produced powders at the time of the development could deliver the target velocity of 2750 fps out of 18" bbl and keep pressure at bay. BH was soursing some mistery powder from overseas and the supply wasn't very steady. Curious if it is still the case or a more readily available powder produced locally is being used now.
@@AndyAdventuring e-mailed Hornady a while ago, the non-cannelure 75gr is a .355 bc, the cannelure bullet with the sharper nose is .395. Not sure why it claims two different bc’s on several different sites.
@@dashowdy Weird I see the cannelure on their 75gr Frontier, but the specs say .355. But like I said, they have a non-Frontier 75gr .223 that is hot and .395 BC
@Buffman - R.A.N.G.E. I used to exclusively uses mk262 but since it became spotty I stopped and moved to a different load. I recently started using Badlands Munitions Co. 77gr OTM's as they perfectly mimicked mk262. Took mk262 out to 1000yds a couple times but haven't pushed the new shit that far yet. New load is cooking at about 2761fps at 79°F with a BP or 30.19inHg.
Do you fire a fouling shot between loads? I was comparing aac and imi yesterday, and the first shot from imi would always be 1.5" high after shooting the aac
@@asdfghjk2933 the 90 grain has a ballistic coefficient like the 155 .308, so it gives the same trajectory but it weighs less and fits in an ar-15 no modifications
I edited my comment with a link to some ballistic data and it disappeared into the either. Not even in my comment history. Not sure what's up there. As mentioned, I'm averaging 2,802fps with this round from my 18" Krieger with a standard deviation of 20.77fps and a max variation of 57. I've not actually accuracy tested this round, but I've tested the TMK from that gun and can shoot a .5MOA group @ 200 yards from a cold barrel. The BC for this round isn't as high as the TMK, but it is certainly high for 5.56 and I imagine it produces similar accuracy.
Krieger barrels are really fast. Not sure why, maybe because the tolerances are so tight? 2802fps is amazing velocity for a 77gr out of an 18". Gas gun or bolt action?
They didn’t build the barrel. That’s on the barrel manufacturer. Had these been in-house or barrels specifically manufactured for them then yeah I’d ding that against them.
Because of your video, I went to the range this evening to test the BH 77gr OTM out of my 13.9" barrel. 5-shot chrono: 2665, 2666, 2652, 2678, 2655. Average: 2663.2 fps Standard deviation: 10.28 fps (!!!) Max variance: 23 fps (!!!) Pretty surprised with those results, and with only losing 140fps with 4" of barrel cut (my 18" Krieger averages 2802fps). Shot another 5-shot group at 100 yards (note: I am a very average user with shot anticipation problems). Lead sled with a 1-8x. Three of the shots basically stacked on top of each other. Sub-.5MOA. The other 2 were higher up. Windage was fantastic. Picture: i.imgur.com/oXE94yd.jpg
@@BuffRANGE Cracked open a new box today. The previous test was using a 2020 box. Saw a marked increase in fps in my 18" Krieger build. 14 shots over chrono produced a 2840 fps average (+40 from the other box). Standard deviation was great as usual at 16. Not sure why this 2023 box is hotter, but maybe they had powder issues during covid. Both boxes ultimately had great consistency though different velocities.
Jeez dude, those are great velocities for such a "short" barrel. I've heard 12.5 - 14.5" barrels get more or less identical velocities with heavier bullets, so what you're saying confirms that.
Jeez dude, those are great velocities for such a "short" barrel. I've heard 12.5 - 14.5" barrels get more or less identical velocities with heavier bullets, so what you're saying confirms that.
Apparently I cut the most important thing off the summary sheet, the Averages. A grab of it is here: flic.kr/p/2oDXrtT
Nice video 👍
As always 😊
This test i found most interesting.
Ps. I will never ever stay away from Mk 262 ammunition 😉
As mentioned at 1.07 min.
Keep up the good work 😊
Basically confirming what we know. If one wants a good factory 77gr OTM 5.56 NATO load, either BH or IMI.
“Seeing is Believing”
@@BuffRANGE reports of the new imi 77gr being underpowered??
@@Decimus-Meridiusi hope not, have you verified this?
@@Decimus-MeridiusI have 1000 rounds of imi and it blows primers every other shot. No matter the rifle.
@@scrufflesmcgoogles8910 what do you mean blows primers?
The Black Hills Mk 262 is the finest 556 loading ever produced. Nothing else compares to it.
As a Military Rifle Instructor assisting the USAMU deliver SDM Training I’ve witnessed a lot of rack grade M16A4’s shot by students in bipod supported prone position where their Mk262 rounds held an MOA at 600 meters when wind was correctly appraised and eyeballs were consistently placed behind eye box of ACOG. No doubt this is testimony for the rifle, ammunition, and student marksmanship. For best results at any distance/ target the Blackhills Mk262 round is boss. Now, in US Service Rifle Competition this round is ideal for 200 and 300 yard stages for the non-handloarder. At 600 yards the 80 grain Berger is a better performer having an MOA wind constant of 10 vs the 8.5 from the 77 grain bullet. One more thing, add a free float rail to M4 or M16A4 for assured sub MOA even from hard hold.
Not bad, good to see these loads compared to what AAC is putting out, that's personally what I stick to with my particular budget. 👌
If AAC gives you almost the same performance then why buy black hills for more than twice the price?
Same. I just use the AAC loads. I’m a poor man.
Same
@@hansgruber9685 Because AAC is just not the same quality or performance. Good for its price but not top tier.
I went back and found your video on the AAC SMK clone, and that also performed with .750” or below groupings, but slightly less velocity.
This might be the most excited I've been for a buffman video
Moment of truth the 556 round to rule them all. I hope its all its cracked up to be.
Despite being a little shy of advertised velocity it's still faster than other 77gt OTM's on the market.
Honestly I believe the ammunition is extremely overrated when it comes to terminal ballistics. Usually anywhere from 4"-6" penetration before expansion and penetration depth seems rather inconsistent. It's still an amazing round that carries beautiful accuracy. It's definitely a top 5 or arguably top 3 contender. I personally believe a heavy, bonded softpoint from 62 - 75g gives a much better overall result across practically all barrel lengths and twists. I've been able to get sub moa with Speers 62g & 75g with ease and the results I've personally seen on coyotes, large feral hogs & whitetail deer here on the ranch have been phenomenal when directly compared to sierras 77g offering.
@@TerminalM193 It is overrated. It's more modern, updated brother on the other hand (77gr tipped matchking) is the best performing 5.56 out there. Amazing what increasing the size of a hollowpoint and adding a polymer tip can do for terminal ballistics.
@@asdfghjk2933 Honestly, I didn't even know that cartridge existed. Doing research now! Thanks!
@@TerminalM193 it’s very well known in hunting circles. Let’s just say it has a good track record of putting down deer and much larger game. Beast of a bullet. It doesn’t penetrate quite as much as bonded or monos (still exits on rib shots) and leaves a lot of fragments behind, but the wound channel it makes dwarfs them. Really impressive stuff.
nice video, thanks for the work you put into this
You are most welcomed!
Great job using different barrel lengths!
You are very welcome!
Pretty impressive. Do you plan on testing AAC's new 77gr load, the one with their in-house bullet? It'd be interesting to see how that compares, since it's about half the price.
I requested some about a month ago. They normally will send some.
@Buffman - R.A.N.G.E. Hopefully it's loaded hot enough. Based on your tests, their loads can't even hit box velocity, and their box velocities seem lower than other loads of the same grain.
After I break in my JAKL and get it dialed in I will be ordering a 300rnd bundle.
I thought he already tested the stuff
@@TerminalM193 that was the one with the Sierra SMK. AAC has their own 77gr OTM bullet now
Thank you for going through all this work!
Great ammo. My rifles love that stuff especially if I’m shooting at a little longer distance
Black Hills 69gr OTM is fantastic as well, if not better.
I love this stuff so much I began to load my own. I have spent probably 1000 hours loading... should have just purchased.
You can get an equivalent hand load from RE-15, about 25.5 grains in Winchester Brass primed with Winchester Primers. This has been popularized by US Service Rifle Competitors.
@@charlesludwig9173 I've been doing the Sierra matchking since before they had one with a cannelure. I had that cannelure each bullet by hand back in the old days. The right now I'm using lake City brass and 25 grains of bLC 2
Awesome glad you finally got some in for testing! That ejection shoulder bump was 🤌🏻🤣
Excellent video. I'd like to see the results of this ammo compared to the original stoner concept of 20 inch barrel and 55 grain fmj ammunition. See the difference in ballistics and judge the pros and cons of each weapons system objectively on intended purpose,useability and perfomance
Andrew over at AR15.com did a super slow motion of the 20" 1:12 vs the 1:7 and found no discernable different in wounding between the two.
77 is better in every way
@@MyLonewolf25 Compared to M193 specifically or all lighter projectiles? Some of the frangibles in the 55 grain range are pretty impressive.
@@MyLonewolf25for BC and flatter shooting. A shame no one but IMI can reliably copy black hills powder formular. Some say the secret is the primer. I think BH mixes powders to achieve the FPS the military specified
@@hansgruber9685 Compared to M193. For the frangibles, you need to compare a similarly constructed bullet. 77gr TMK for example, which is a polymer tipped hollowpoint. It's like a 55gr varmint round that does more damage and actually penetrates decently.
Impressive. Good data
The classic Osama slayer round 🔥 just picked up my first box this round is devastating
Over $800 for 500 rounds currently. The m855a2 round is supposed to be better but it’s $2 per round and I’m not convinced it’s legitimately being sourced and supplied by vendors so staying away from that one.
I chrono graphed the same round out of a 16" American Defense Manufacturing rifle (223 Wylde Criterion barrel) and getting 2705 FPS.
Out of my ADM 16inch criterion I got 2707 with my serria 77 grain OTM and Ramshot Tac reloads.
@@natewahl9873 Nice. Looks like your powder is on point.
Criterion barrels run approximately 50fps faster than other barrels. They are great barrels.
@@SantosGunworks Wow, really? I've been leaning towards criterion for a while, but if that's true then it seals the deal. Any idea why? I don't think they run 5r rifling or anything like that.
Kind of expected BHA to be a LITTLE more consistent velocity-wise
I think I'll buy a couple of boxes and try these on for size, on my AR Bushy 24" Varminter...
Thx. for the heads up
🇦🇺😎👍Hey Matt… cool looking rigs….great honest accuracy …great results 🏁
I haven’t seen this stuff since 2016. Even online. I still have 350 rounds of it left. And I’m kind of hesitant to use any.
While I have never shot any black hills ammo, I just look up the price of the black hills 77 gr otm and it's any where between $1.27- $1.30 a round at midway usa. I've just started using the aac 77 gr otm and it's very accurate and it's only $0.55 a round.
It’s recently increased in price again so I’m not sure if it’s worth it now but I’ve a had some buddy’s that use sigs 77 grain performance Ammo?? It’s a white box of sig but I’ve heard that’s some pretty good stuff
Picked up a box of this ammo a while back. Good stuff.
Load my own out of a 20" SPR barrel and getting consistent 2750 ft/sec. Looks like beyond 20" you're getting diminishing returns (only 50ft/sec more from a 22" barrel). Considering buying a 24" bull barrel to stretch the round past 750yards. curious to see what velocity you would get from a 24" barrel. Any plans to add a 24" to the list of barrels in the future? great video.
Most 24" barrels are not 5.56 chambers and I'm somewhat leery of trusting a 5.56 chamber for testing.
The AAC version of this load is plenty good enough. And the price difference is giant
AAC 77gr OTM costs $11.99 / 20
BLACKHILLS 77gr mk262 mod-1 C $39.99 / 20
🤔
@johnholder9062 exactly. Black hills is undeniably good. But the aac with Sierra match king bullet is 15.99. And it's a fantastic copy of the black hills.
Thanks for the video
You are most welcomed!
thanks for the video!
The pleasure is all mine..
@BuffRange this comment is on your Black Hills mk262 vid. Curious if you have tried the Sig 223 77 grn SMK ammo? I just shot 4 separate sub MOA 5 shot groups at 300 yards with that ammo, I was getting an average of 2730fps out of a 20" White Oak Precision service rifle. Needless to say, I was very impressed as I cant even get that out of my handloads with 77 SMK's. Edit to add that it was Sig Sauer 223 Elite Match 77 gr OTM not their 5.56 although both are listed as 2750fps
I have not. Sometimes I have to balance what I can spend funds on for the month, and I try whenever possible to get the ammo donated to me. I'll have to see if Sig can help me.
So the avg est vel of an 18 inch should be about 2694.5 about.
I’ve tried duplicating this and with imr 3031 5rds touch at 100 but with low charge…I’ve got 7 or 8 5.56 loads developed for 16” from 53gr v max to 85gr nosler rdf which you ought to try…55gr blitzkings shot excellently also…can’t make the 3240fps my turrets calibrated for without pressure and past 3k never could make a group…I’ve got many hrs on 7.62” also…
You can easily clone this with 25-25.2 Gr of AA2520.
24.5 grains of RE-15
RIP the BuffWallet
He's got moth's coming out of him..
Im going to imagine the 77gr Sierra TMK performs similar. But seeing 2000fps out of a 7.5" barrel, and seeing reports of it fragmenting at even 1900fps will make it a very good defensive round that is not barrier blind.
No not at all - the 77gr TMK is miles ahead of this. It doesn't perform similarly, it is far superior.
I found yesterday that loading the TMK to magazine length the ogive is more than halfway down the neck. Could result in bullet setback during clambering. I'll find out soon.
I know there's a picture floating around the internet that someone took of a gel block that was hit by the 77 tmk that supposedly they had downloaded to below 1600fps and it was still getting some awesome expansion
Anyone who unironically uses a 7.5 5.56 for defensive use is a moron
I love the Korean metal mags at $8.99 get some!!!’
We definitely needed a randy macho man Savage cream of the crop clip lol
Damn it missed that opportunity.
For the algorithm!
Please test Meade industries 77gr otm.
Got a bunch after researching who they were. Supposed to be more accurate than any other loading. Not to mention it’s much cheaper than black hills
You're getting magnification of course the eye relief will be worse than a 1x that's part of the trade off you make by magnifying glass.
Vortex 3&5x microprisms have pretty much identical eye relief. Actually 5x has a tiny bit larger one so I don't think this is as simple and linear a relationship based solely on magnification.
have you tried the 77gr TMK from black hills?
I have not. I've been told it's also a very very good round. Might be too long for the 1:9?
Really great rifle-handling with various rifles, regardless of 'left or right side' firearm; especially your bolt technique.
@@BuffRANGE Not sure about precision, but it's an INSANELY good defense/hunting round. Best one out there, if you don't care about barrier blindness.
Thank you. This is outstanding information. Shalom.
You are very welcome
Its about 100 fps faster than the AAC
My FN barrel 1n7 chf hates anything heavier than 62 grain. Goes fron 1.6 moa with 62 grain all the way to 7 in the 70s and higher.
Why the OMK instead of the TMK, which has a better BC and better performance on game?
""Double chrome FN barrel... Just sent 2 back to Brownells one 16'' one 20'', chrome flaking off lands at 280 ,500 rounds.
I am glad the term "recoil Impulse" was not used in this video. That term drives me nuts because recoil implies an impulse and to use the two in the same sentence is extremely redundant.
Sorry! I had to vent!
Has anybody figured out what kind of powder BH is using in this load these days? None of the US produced powders at the time of the development could deliver the target velocity of 2750 fps out of 18" bbl and keep pressure at bay. BH was soursing some mistery powder from overseas and the supply wasn't very steady. Curious if it is still the case or a more readily available powder produced locally is being used now.
I will stick with my frontier match 75gr, better sd and velocity, plus price.
T2 Frontier has an SD of .214 and BC of .355. The Black Hills 77gr OTM is .219 and .372 respectively.
@@AndyAdventuring the Frontier match with the cannelure currently is BC of .395
@@dashowdy I see a non-Frontier .223 on Hornady's site that is 75 gr and .395 BC. Velocity looks like what you're describing, too.
@@AndyAdventuring e-mailed Hornady a while ago, the non-cannelure 75gr is a .355 bc, the cannelure bullet with the sharper nose is .395. Not sure why it claims two different bc’s on several different sites.
@@dashowdy Weird I see the cannelure on their 75gr Frontier, but the specs say .355. But like I said, they have a non-Frontier 75gr .223 that is hot and .395 BC
That's slow for 262. I get his 20in velocities in my 16in gun.
@T X lol yes. 2742fps avg verified off a magnitospeed chronograph
@@operatorsanonymous1741 Could be the chrono. Could be weather conditions. It still has posted the highest velocities of any of the 77gr OTM's to date
@Buffman - R.A.N.G.E. I used to exclusively uses mk262 but since it became spotty I stopped and moved to a different load. I recently started using Badlands Munitions Co. 77gr OTM's as they perfectly mimicked mk262. Took mk262 out to 1000yds a couple times but haven't pushed the new shit that far yet. New load is cooking at about 2761fps at 79°F with a BP or 30.19inHg.
It's the barrel. Each barrel is going to be different.
@@SantosGunworks also another variable as well.
Do you fire a fouling shot between loads? I was comparing aac and imi yesterday, and the first shot from imi would always be 1.5" high after shooting the aac
🙌🙌
6x45 will shoot a 90 grain with a slightly higher BC, at a slightly higher velocity
Why is that relevant? A 308 will shoot a 155gr with a much higher BC at a slightly higher velocity.
@@asdfghjk2933 the 90 grain has a ballistic coefficient like the 155 .308, so it gives the same trajectory but it weighs less and fits in an ar-15 no modifications
Where to find this ? SGAmmo and lucky gunner don’t have it
I can never find this stuff for under 2.50 a round.... Never....
I edited my comment with a link to some ballistic data and it disappeared into the either. Not even in my comment history. Not sure what's up there.
As mentioned, I'm averaging 2,802fps with this round from my 18" Krieger with a standard deviation of 20.77fps and a max variation of 57.
I've not actually accuracy tested this round, but I've tested the TMK from that gun and can shoot a .5MOA group @ 200 yards from a cold barrel. The BC for this round isn't as high as the TMK, but it is certainly high for 5.56 and I imagine it produces similar accuracy.
Likely YT deleted it. For whatever reason.
What is the BC for mk262 mod1-c?
@@mexicangator .372
Krieger barrels are really fast. Not sure why, maybe because the tolerances are so tight? 2802fps is amazing velocity for a 77gr out of an 18". Gas gun or bolt action?
@@asdfghjk2933 Interesting I have a 16 in KD4 BCM upper 7.7 twist with chrono of 2742
algorithm
Mario, Luigi and Yoshi!
Maybe if you wouldn't shoulder it on camera, then they wouldn't have a leg to stand on. 😂
The og hadji-fucker.
Looks like it didn't work very well 😂
@@Halal_Dan Over a million dead…
@@hansgruber9685 And what did a million dead Iraqi civilians get the US?
Good ammo, but as usual , greatly overhyped by guntubers. Paying double what you should pay for it.
Your hat is on backwards...
Is it not allowed to me?
How can you claim good build quality when the gas port in the barrel was oversized?
They didn’t build the barrel. That’s on the barrel manufacturer. Had these been in-house or barrels specifically manufactured for them then yeah I’d ding that against them.
But if you or the company you represent is using a out of spec barrel from a third party vendor, that speaks on the quality of the build
Because of your video, I went to the range this evening to test the BH 77gr OTM out of my 13.9" barrel.
5-shot chrono: 2665, 2666, 2652, 2678, 2655.
Average: 2663.2 fps
Standard deviation: 10.28 fps (!!!)
Max variance: 23 fps (!!!)
Pretty surprised with those results, and with only losing 140fps with 4" of barrel cut (my 18" Krieger averages 2802fps).
Shot another 5-shot group at 100 yards (note: I am a very average user with shot anticipation problems). Lead sled with a 1-8x. Three of the shots basically stacked on top of each other. Sub-.5MOA. The other 2 were higher up. Windage was fantastic. Picture: i.imgur.com/oXE94yd.jpg
Hard to argue with that!
@@BuffRANGE Cracked open a new box today. The previous test was using a 2020 box. Saw a marked increase in fps in my 18" Krieger build.
14 shots over chrono produced a 2840 fps average (+40 from the other box). Standard deviation was great as usual at 16.
Not sure why this 2023 box is hotter, but maybe they had powder issues during covid. Both boxes ultimately had great consistency though different velocities.
Jeez dude, those are great velocities for such a "short" barrel. I've heard 12.5 - 14.5" barrels get more or less identical velocities with heavier bullets, so what you're saying confirms that.
Jeez dude, those are great velocities for such a "short" barrel. I've heard 12.5 - 14.5" barrels get more or less identical velocities with heavier bullets, so what you're saying confirms that.