Greatest Tudor series ever made. I have watched it again and again. Probably over 20 times and it never gets old. The costumes, acting, scenery, story… I adore it. Xx
Yeah the Tudors took artistic liberties but by n large they used historical documents and real documented phrases and quotes like when Henry spoke to Anne when she had Elisabeth
This explains even more why she was mad when she caught him w/ Jane Seymour. Anne made arrangements for him t have " safe " affairs and here he goes messing it all up
@@aizyxxvwell back then it was expected so the answer would have been “most of them” wouldn’t be mad. If ur used to something u don’t get mad. Perhaps upset for a moment. But u have to remember it’s not like today. They expected it they knew it likely would happen. They sort of got used to it. lol she was diff because she reckoned she had his entire attention. And aimed to keep it
I think they should have kept the scene about Culpeper. It is true, that someone with that name was accused of rape and murder and that Henry looked the other way. It is not clear if it was THAT Thomas Culpeper who would later get executed in relation to Katherine Howard (the scene would be critical in showing that their relationship was less true love and that Culpeper was more of a predator) OR if it was his brother (for some reason he had a brother also named Thomas Culpeper). But either way, Henry looked the other way.
I really wish they had included the scene with Culpepper smugly smiling after getting away with rape and murder. It would have made his ending more justified.
I wish they kept that scene with Mary Boelyn! Such an underrated character who deserves more screen time. I know the Other Boelyn Girl goes into her story (well it tries to lol) but I wish we saw more of her relationship with Anne and her presence on the court. IRL she was also a Lady in Waiting to Catherine and married for love over profit. I also really liked her portrayal in the Tudors and felt it gave her more justice than the Other Boelyn Girl did.
The book is completely different from the Hollywood movie. Mary is the narrator of the book and therefore is in almost all scenes. The story told in the book is more (historically) accurate than the movie. The book and the movie only share about three lines.
Wth? I have the boxed sets of this entire show, and there were no deleted scenes to watch. I feel cheated because despite its clear inaccuracies it was a very good, entertaining show.
🌙Wow! What a gift 🎁 This was just like an unreleased bonus episode 10 years after the show ended! All in proper order at that! Fine production Ma Lady---Happy Yule 🎄and long good health to you all! Especially Mistress Seymour 🤍
Some of these scenes actually happened in history though and I think they should've left them in and taken some other ones out. I still love The Tudors though. 👑🔥
The man was sick in the head and we know this thanks to all the surviving documents and the historians that studied them. Catherine of Aragon truly loved him and he shut her out by divorcing her, a very controversial one at that. Anne Boleyn, he shut her out to, but also shamed her with wild accusations such as adultery and incest (really, with George ? Henri you were reaching, man) only he sent her to the scaffold on account of his altered ego, (she gave him a baby girl which as history shows us, and fate would have it, d'ohh, became queen Elisabeth I of England who ruled for a few decades, never married and thus the Tudor line ended with her - eat your hearty out Henri, Anne eventually had the last laugh from beyond the grave !!)) which he vehemently refused to acknowledge. Jane Seymour gave him a son, yay !!! but she died shortly after giving birth, thankfully not by his hand. Also, his son, prince Edward, died at 15 (your sins and hypocrisy finally caught up with you, Henri). Anne of Cleaves he did away with her by letting her go, as in divorce, (maybe he experienced a moment of clarity somehow and decided not to have her beheaded or shame her with accusations) so somewhat she got off easy as in no scaffold, yay !!! but also on account of his altered ego as he thought she was ugly, even though he was no better off himself judging by his portraits that survived. Catherine Howard he had executed on account of alleged adultery (highly unlikely) And his last wife, Catherine Parr didnt get to "enjoy" his company because what do you know, he kicked the bucket. Finally. The only reason he married Catherine Parr was because he was old and needed a companion, so not out of love. So, in conclusion this man was a narcisstic a-hole, with an inflated ego, but severly altered and his refusal to acknowledge the state of his ego (after all, he was king, right?) led to the sad fates of 5/6 out of his wives. Scaffold or not. So there you have it in a nutshell.
@@deborahproctor9538 That's because high society's concept regarding women was f***** up. Women were considered subspecies and were treated as subhuman. That changed half a millenium later when women started pleading for their rights in various forms until such rights were recognized thus women today are getting the fair treatment. Unfortunately, that's how women were perceived by men back then: the woman was piece o'shit only good for bearing children and nothing more and treated as such.
Right on most accounts apart from the one about Catherine Howard. It wasn’t alleged, she confessed to having illicit affairs before marriage. That in itself wasn’t illegal, but it was hugely scandalous and improper for a Queen to have such a past. What doomed her was she got caught having affairs during her marriage to the King. Culpepper and another guy
@sparkreno19 Yes, and I believe Catherine Howard cheated on Henry mostly because he was a sick old man and the young men at the court were more appealing to her. We need to keep in mind that she was a teenaged girl who was bound to a guy far older than her. Was she naive to think she wouldn't get caught? Yes, but I can't blame her for her choices. Unfortunately, it was high treason for a Queen to be unfaithful to the King, and she paid with her life.
If only that first meeting between Anne and Henry had gone better, he might have actually developed real affection for her while they were married, and Catherine Howard might have kept her head. They might have also had a healthy son who would succeed Edward.
Anne of Cleves? Yes it seems he visited her in disguise and her shock and reticence and pulling away was inperpreted as rejection and disgust-so he then felt he had to reject and show disgust for her.
I remember the first time I saw Joss Stone playing Anne of Cleves and that little shit Henry coming in saying he liked her NOT, wth Henry are you insane? Wait, never mind, of coarse you are.
I thought Elizabeth I was miscast in this role. She felt like Dawn out of Buffy. Not if the right era. Natalie Dormer as Anne Boleyn however, was perfect.
Natalie Dormer is a perfect example of an actor using her talent to make a character feel like flesh and bone 🙌🏻 the writers gave her the words, but she gave it the humanity. I could not imagine anyone doing the role better.
Do you have the deleted scene for the field of cloth and gold, then that deleted kiss of henry to catherine after his jousting accident? If you have can you please post it, thank you so much🥺
Cranmer the tool. You donot tell a king what to do. Madge Shelton's reputation was ruined. Her mother waited on Anne in the tower. Norris refused to marry Madge.
@@deborahproctor9538Norris didn't want the king's leftovers. I am convinced Norris told him that after the mayday celebration. That is why Henry had him executed. The mistresses married lower. Mary Boleyn's husband Henry Carrey was lower than her. Stafford was lower still.
@@wednesdayschild3627Mary Boleyn’s first husband was William Carey. Their son (or was it The King’s?) was called Henry Carey. And Mary’s second husband was called William Stanford.
Thomas Cromwell did Henry's bidding. Cranmer was a Boleyn tool. Cranmer allegedly gave Anne the idea that she would live if she annulled her marriage. I think either Henry threatened him, or tricked him. It is all Henry.
Edward…. your sister is over twenty years older than you, I doubt she will stop just because you don’t believe it’s right. (He did send that letter IRL.)
Freckles were considered filthy marks on the skin by some cultures and a possible sign of "dirty skin" aka signs of sin as well. In fact many people used the freckles that many Jews had at that time as "proof" that they are marked as evil by god. Anne of Cleves i remember was also much taller than average which deemed her less attractive by some people etc It wasn't like she was objectively ugly. She just didn't fill the medieval beauty standards and in a way neither did Henry after his injury when he gained way too much weight and all. Originally he was known for his beauty and shape but not by the end of his life
Yes, he was quite attractive when he was young. He was quite a catch and, in marrying him, Cathrine of Aragon felt quite lucky and secure in her position as a Queen (since divorce between royals was non-existent). But after Jane Seymour's death he became fat and depressed. That's why the next wife was a sexy little toy. And he smelled like a thousand toilets which is his punishment for the hell he put his wives through. All of them.
i was so utterly DISGUSTED at the gross inaccuracies of this show that i gave up in outrage before the end of season ! BUT this portrayal of young prince Edward as a stuffy little prig (26:30) a seen in a letter read out here was spot on IMO if he has lived he would have been the most deadly and despotic Tudor of them all. and the fact that i AM even in this day and age a convinced protestant does not mitigate this view of mine
I think the letter is an actual letter he wrote. I recognize the introduction from some history books I've read. And yes, I do share your view about Edward VI... there was something deeply wrong with him. The fact that in his account of his uncle's execution (Thomas Seymour), all he feels like saying is to record the time, that it took place between 8 and 9 AM... that tells me a lot about him. I don't know if he was a psychopath, but I think he clearly had issues with processing emotions. He was the kind of person who would have watched an entire city burn and would remark on the different shades of orange of the fire, without caring about the people killed or suffering. I don't think he was at Don Carlos levels of psychopathy (son of King Philip II of Spain... a real violent degenerate), but he there was something very wrong with him.
@@octavianpopescu4776knowing this about him, I believe he did put in Jane Grey. He had no problem creating a succession crisis. He probably had an idea that she would be a tool to her husband who would be king.
@@wednesdayschild3627 Yes... I don't think Edward VI was a tool for Dudley in changing the succession. I mean, his Device for the Succession was written by him in his own hand. He was seriously ill and he could have had some secretary draft, but still he took the time to write it himself. This tells me he really wanted it himself. And at some point, when some expressed doubts about this, Edward of his own free will yelled at people and ordered them to get it done. This wasn't Dudley pushing him, it was him of his own accord. It shows his determination in doing it. I get the sense that Dudley, yes, he was scheming to make his son Guildford king, but I don't think he was alone. I never bought the excuse that the other members of the council invoked that they were afraid of him. Really? All the most powerful people in England were afraid of this 1 guy. I get that he was influential, but no one is this influential by himself. Queen Jane had the courage to tell him no... a 16 year old girl told him that she won't make his son king, but all those council members couldn't stop him? Really? They were afraid of him, but a teenage girl wasn't? I get the sense that others, like Arundel, Pembroke, Winchester... they were very cooperative with the plan. These same council members were very insistent for Queen Mary to kill Queen Jane... to hide their own actions. Truth is: they all signed Edward's Device for Succession and got rid of the evidence, turning Dudley into a scape goat.
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The actress that plays Anne was outstanding
Its Natalie Dormer❤
Greatest Tudor series ever made. I have watched it again and again. Probably over 20 times and it never gets old. The costumes, acting, scenery, story… I adore it. Xx
The scene when Henry speaks ill of Anne - those were Henry’s actual words! Should have kept the scene in; that was history right there 🥺
Yeah the Tudors took artistic liberties but by n large they used historical documents and real documented phrases and quotes like when Henry spoke to Anne when she had Elisabeth
Which part
I love the Tudor series even though it isn’t historically accurate. I’ve must have seen the series 10+ times yet it never gets old.
It is accurate babes
It is very accurate
It has a lot of inaccuracies
@msher33 no it isn't
@aliciasitbon350 no it isn't.
This explains even more why she was mad when she caught him w/ Jane Seymour. Anne made arrangements for him t have " safe " affairs and here he goes messing it all up
He was the king.. no excuse.. but he got away with shit
who wouldn't be mad seeing your husband have affairs with another woman
@@aizyxxvwell back then it was expected so the answer would have been “most of them” wouldn’t be mad. If ur used to something u don’t get mad. Perhaps upset for a moment. But u have to remember it’s not like today. They expected it they knew it likely would happen. They sort of got used to it. lol she was diff because she reckoned she had his entire attention. And aimed to keep it
@@aizyxxvwasn't her husband
@@NeveahLeahanne no excuses. her reaction was perfectly natural and expected
I think they should have kept the scene about Culpeper. It is true, that someone with that name was accused of rape and murder and that Henry looked the other way. It is not clear if it was THAT Thomas Culpeper who would later get executed in relation to Katherine Howard (the scene would be critical in showing that their relationship was less true love and that Culpeper was more of a predator) OR if it was his brother (for some reason he had a brother also named Thomas Culpeper). But either way, Henry looked the other way.
I really wish they had included the scene with Culpepper smugly smiling after getting away with rape and murder. It would have made his ending more justified.
I wish they kept that scene with Mary Boelyn! Such an underrated character who deserves more screen time. I know the Other Boelyn Girl goes into her story (well it tries to lol) but I wish we saw more of her relationship with Anne and her presence on the court. IRL she was also a Lady in Waiting to Catherine and married for love over profit. I also really liked her portrayal in the Tudors and felt it gave her more justice than the Other Boelyn Girl did.
Mary. The one who outlived them all!
The book is completely different from the Hollywood movie. Mary is the narrator of the book and therefore is in almost all scenes. The story told in the book is more (historically) accurate than the movie. The book and the movie only share about three lines.
Um actually mary did go see cromwell.
I agree. Mary is my favourite princess. It's such a pity her Queenship turned out the way it did.
@@mofeoyatogun9242this was about Anne’s sister, not the king’s daughter.
The scene when Catherine says that she wants to fly.. Wow. Would love if they kept that!
I would love to see more scenes of Anne Boleyn!
Thomas Boleyn is such a horrible father
The scene with Lady Rochford and Anne of Cleves was very interesting.
seeing these scenes makes certain other scenes that we saw make more sense
Catherine Howard was a child.
Wth? I have the boxed sets of this entire show, and there were no deleted scenes to watch. I feel cheated because despite its clear inaccuracies it was a very good, entertaining show.
Exactly!! How did this channel get these deleted scenes??
Loved this scenes so much!! They should have included some ❤❤
This is awesome.
Thank you.
🌙Wow! What a gift 🎁 This was just like an unreleased bonus episode 10 years after the show ended! All in proper order at that! Fine production Ma Lady---Happy Yule 🎄and long good health to you all! Especially Mistress Seymour 🤍
Yep this channel is FANTASTIC ❤
I love the green screens !! Explains well how it was all done !!
Yes me too!! I noticed that.
27:19 not Henry becoming a wildlife documentary presenter 🤣
Wow! How in the world did you get these gems?! Even the green screens are there, right from the editing room! Awesome! Thanks!
Some of these scenes actually happened in history though and I think they should've left them in and taken some other ones out. I still love The Tudors though. 👑🔥
Wonderful series.I miss it❤
I need to watch this show again, I barely remember these characters besides of course the main ones
The man was sick in the head and we know this thanks to all the surviving documents and the historians that studied them.
Catherine of Aragon truly loved him and he shut her out by divorcing her, a very controversial one at that.
Anne Boleyn, he shut her out to, but also shamed her with wild accusations such as adultery and incest (really, with George ? Henri you were reaching, man) only he sent her to the scaffold on account of his altered ego, (she gave him a baby girl which as history shows us, and fate would have it, d'ohh, became queen Elisabeth I of England who ruled for a few decades, never married and thus the Tudor line ended with her - eat your hearty out Henri, Anne eventually had the last laugh from beyond the grave !!)) which he vehemently refused to acknowledge.
Jane Seymour gave him a son, yay !!! but she died shortly after giving birth, thankfully not by his hand. Also, his son, prince Edward, died at 15 (your sins and hypocrisy finally caught up with you, Henri).
Anne of Cleaves he did away with her by letting her go, as in divorce, (maybe he experienced a moment of clarity somehow and decided not to have her beheaded or shame her with accusations) so somewhat she got off easy as in no scaffold, yay !!! but also on account of his altered ego as he thought she was ugly, even though he was no better off himself judging by his portraits that survived.
Catherine Howard he had executed on account of alleged adultery (highly unlikely)
And his last wife, Catherine Parr didnt get to "enjoy" his company because what do you know, he kicked the bucket. Finally. The only reason he married Catherine Parr was because he was old and needed a companion, so not out of love.
So, in conclusion this man was a narcisstic a-hole, with an inflated ego, but severly altered and his refusal to acknowledge the state of his ego (after all, he was king, right?) led to the sad fates of 5/6 out of his wives. Scaffold or not. So there you have it in a nutshell.
Divorced, Beheaded, Died, Divorced, Beheaded, Survived
He needed an heir. At the time England would have never accepted a woman as queen and monarch
@@deborahproctor9538 That's because high society's concept regarding women was f***** up. Women were considered subspecies and were treated as subhuman. That changed half a millenium later when women started pleading for their rights in various forms until such rights were recognized thus women today are getting the fair treatment. Unfortunately, that's how women were perceived by men back then: the woman was piece o'shit only good for bearing children and nothing more and treated as such.
Right on most accounts apart from the one about Catherine Howard. It wasn’t alleged, she confessed to having illicit affairs before marriage. That in itself wasn’t illegal, but it was hugely scandalous and improper for a Queen to have such a past. What doomed her was she got caught having affairs during her marriage to the King. Culpepper and another guy
@sparkreno19 Yes, and I believe Catherine Howard cheated on Henry mostly because he was a sick old man and the young men at the court were more appealing to her. We need to keep in mind that she was a teenaged girl who was bound to a guy far older than her. Was she naive to think she wouldn't get caught? Yes, but I can't blame her for her choices. Unfortunately, it was high treason for a Queen to be unfaithful to the King, and she paid with her life.
2:46 would be me
same
i liked the mary boleyn scene. a bit of drama
If only that first meeting between Anne and Henry had gone better, he might have actually developed real affection for her while they were married, and Catherine Howard might have kept her head. They might have also had a healthy son who would succeed Edward.
Yes, I've often thought about that! How different history would have been!
Anne of Cleves? Yes it seems he visited her in disguise and her shock and reticence and pulling away was inperpreted as rejection and disgust-so he then felt he had to reject and show disgust for her.
I remember the first time I saw Joss Stone playing Anne of Cleves and that little shit Henry coming in saying he liked her NOT, wth Henry are you insane? Wait, never mind, of coarse you are.
I thought Elizabeth I was miscast in this role. She felt like Dawn out of Buffy. Not if the right era. Natalie Dormer as Anne Boleyn however, was perfect.
I thought girl looked like Elizabeth 1.
@@wednesdayschild3627I thought the voice completely took you out of the moment. It’s very modern American/California toned.
Natalie Dormer is a perfect example of an actor using her talent to make a character feel like flesh and bone 🙌🏻 the writers gave her the words, but she gave it the humanity. I could not imagine anyone doing the role better.
Natalie Dormer did extensive research on Anne Boleyn. Learning this made me admire her even more, she was spectacular as Anne.
Do you have the deleted scene for the field of cloth and gold, then that deleted kiss of henry to catherine after his jousting accident? If you have can you please post it, thank you so much🥺
What deleted kiss
Brutal times. Sad that cutting off hands continues to be normal in certain countries...
Kind of cool to see Cramner meeting his future wife
25:15-25:35
Exactly!!
Cranmer the tool. You donot tell a king what to do. Madge Shelton's reputation was ruined. Her mother waited on Anne in the tower. Norris refused to marry Madge.
Norris lost his noggin
Madge's reputation wasn't ruined. She would've of been made a good marriage as a gift.
@@deborahproctor9538Norris didn't want the king's leftovers. I am convinced Norris told him that after the mayday celebration. That is why Henry had him executed. The mistresses married lower. Mary Boleyn's husband Henry Carrey was lower than her. Stafford was lower still.
@@wednesdayschild3627Mary Boleyn’s first husband was William Carey. Their son (or was it The King’s?) was called Henry Carey. And Mary’s second husband was called William Stanford.
@@Heidi_Bradshawthanks for correction.
6:11 there’s some significance to only half of her face being lit.
What do you mean?
I have seen this on Damed many times,please note,I absolutely hate your intrusion of my post and personal text
The reel villain was Thomas
Thomas Cromwell did Henry's bidding. Cranmer was a Boleyn tool. Cranmer allegedly gave Anne the idea that she would live if she annulled her marriage. I think either Henry threatened him, or tricked him. It is all Henry.
@@wednesdayschild3627 yes totally agree
Edward…. your sister is over twenty years older than you, I doubt she will stop just because you don’t believe it’s right.
(He did send that letter IRL.)
"Roman Church ...thousands of years." Ummm, your history is wrong!
Freckles were considered filthy marks on the skin by some cultures and a possible sign of "dirty skin" aka signs of sin as well. In fact many people used the freckles that many Jews had at that time as "proof" that they are marked as evil by god.
Anne of Cleves i remember was also much taller than average which deemed her less attractive by some people etc
It wasn't like she was objectively ugly. She just didn't fill the medieval beauty standards and in a way neither did Henry after his injury when he gained way too much weight and all. Originally he was known for his beauty and shape but not by the end of his life
Yes, he was quite attractive when he was young. He was quite a catch and, in marrying him, Cathrine of Aragon felt quite lucky and secure in her position as a Queen (since divorce between royals was non-existent). But after Jane Seymour's death he became fat and depressed. That's why the next wife was a sexy little toy. And he smelled like a thousand toilets which is his punishment for the hell he put his wives through. All of them.
why didnt henry like anne irl? was she ugly 👀
he just had a bruised ego and took if out on anne anne of cleves was not ugly and definitely not the actress playing her ( joss stone)
She was not his type and the clothing she wore was not to his liking..he just was not attracted to her.
Look at her portrait. She was a potato faced German.
He was a worldly man and she was an innocent
He did eventually grow to love her as a sister, as depicted in the series. He was very generous in his affections and gifts with her.
i was so utterly DISGUSTED at the gross inaccuracies of this show that i gave up in outrage before the end of season !
BUT
this portrayal of young prince Edward as a stuffy little prig (26:30) a seen in a letter read out here was spot on
IMO if he has lived he would have been the most deadly and despotic Tudor of them all. and the fact that i AM even in this day and age a convinced protestant does not mitigate this view of mine
I think the letter is an actual letter he wrote. I recognize the introduction from some history books I've read. And yes, I do share your view about Edward VI... there was something deeply wrong with him. The fact that in his account of his uncle's execution (Thomas Seymour), all he feels like saying is to record the time, that it took place between 8 and 9 AM... that tells me a lot about him. I don't know if he was a psychopath, but I think he clearly had issues with processing emotions. He was the kind of person who would have watched an entire city burn and would remark on the different shades of orange of the fire, without caring about the people killed or suffering. I don't think he was at Don Carlos levels of psychopathy (son of King Philip II of Spain... a real violent degenerate), but he there was something very wrong with him.
@@octavianpopescu4776knowing this about him, I believe he did put in Jane Grey. He had no problem creating a succession crisis. He probably had an idea that she would be a tool to her husband who would be king.
@@wednesdayschild3627 Yes... I don't think Edward VI was a tool for Dudley in changing the succession. I mean, his Device for the Succession was written by him in his own hand. He was seriously ill and he could have had some secretary draft, but still he took the time to write it himself. This tells me he really wanted it himself. And at some point, when some expressed doubts about this, Edward of his own free will yelled at people and ordered them to get it done. This wasn't Dudley pushing him, it was him of his own accord. It shows his determination in doing it.
I get the sense that Dudley, yes, he was scheming to make his son Guildford king, but I don't think he was alone. I never bought the excuse that the other members of the council invoked that they were afraid of him. Really? All the most powerful people in England were afraid of this 1 guy. I get that he was influential, but no one is this influential by himself. Queen Jane had the courage to tell him no... a 16 year old girl told him that she won't make his son king, but all those council members couldn't stop him? Really? They were afraid of him, but a teenage girl wasn't? I get the sense that others, like Arundel, Pembroke, Winchester... they were very cooperative with the plan. These same council members were very insistent for Queen Mary to kill Queen Jane... to hide their own actions. Truth is: they all signed Edward's Device for Succession and got rid of the evidence, turning Dudley into a scape goat.
The show was hinting at him being a greater evil than Henry .
Hmmm, looks more like a cat or a rat to me.
fake movies try change History
Most are useless and show some bad acting, sorry 😮