Court TV's Vinnie Politan: Chad Daybell had followers. Will he have 12 more inside the courtroom?
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BOISE -- The lead anchor at Court TV has followed the Chad and Lori Daybell cases closely since they began over four years ago.
Now, as witnesses will soon take the stand in Chad Daybell's trial, Vinnie Politan will be watching closely for the defense and prosecutors present their cases.
"I understand the prosecutors' case but I want to hear specifics of what happened to Tammy Daybell," Politan tells EastIdahoNews.com. "How (her cause of death) was missed the first time, why the body had to be exhumed and the explanations for all of that."
Daybell, who married Lori Vallow two weeks after his wife Tammy Daybell died in October 2019, is charged with conspiracy to commit murder and first-degree murder in relation to the deaths of Tammy and two of Lori’s kids - 7-year-old Joshua “JJ” Vallow and 16-year-old Tylee Ryan. He has pleaded not guilty to all charges.
Prosecutors showed at Vallow Daybell's trial that her brother, Alex Cox, was closely involved in the deaths. He died in December 2019.
"I'll be watching the way the defense approaches Lori and Alex and what exactly the relationship is between those two. Is the argument going to be that they were inspired by Chad but not conspiring with him?" Politan explains. "Does he have these prophecies and they are things he says but Lori and Alex are the ones who take them, twist them, turn them and start committing murders?"
Vallow Daybell did not testify at her trial and Politan wonders if Daybell, who has written several books and spoke at conferences about the end of times, will take the stand.
"He is a man who is used to speaking to groups of people and convincing them to believe what he's saying. He had followers. Will he have 12 more inside that courtroom? I think that's the biggest question and I'm waiting to see if it will be answered," Politan says.
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What a difference to hear a guest that treats you as his equal Nate. This was a pleasure to watch totally different than Nancy Grace.
Vinnie and Nate are my faves, so nice to see them both discussing this case.
Both my fav too . Great reporting by both
Vinnie is a live wire-never heard him speak outside of his show. Dude is VERY intelligrnt, articulate ,dramatic orator. Nate is a perfect counterbalance keeping us all on script. Great show men, thank you.
Very well said, agreed 💯
He’s a former prosecutor he knows what he is talking about
This was a GREAT video! Vinnie is such an articulate and animated journalist; he draws his audience in! As I watched this, I thought that as polished and well spoken as Vinnie is, with this particular story, Nate Eaton is the master. No one knows it better, no one presents it better. Nate is in a class of his own with his unique humanitarianism, diligence and a selflessness you just don’t see in other journalists.
Well said! 👍🏼
Indeed! I will state that I wrote about Nate yesterday, and my writings parallel your writings --- I enjoyed your going into depth regarding how special Nate is in reference to his humanitarianism.
Could be because this case has been Nates MAIN focus?
@@michellemonet4358 You are missing my point. Nate does a series called Secret Santa. It's a wonderful series he does yearly that is a perfect example of the humanity and compassion he brings to whatever cases or topics he addresses. This isn't the only case he has ever reported on! He maintains that clariety of humanity in all his reporting.
Vinnie should start a cult! I would join! Lol. Jk. But for real, what a brilliant speaker he is!
Chad did not want an autopsy. That’s why they hurried up and moved her body for burial.
Thank goodness he didn’t have her cremated. In fact I’m amazed he didn’t. Shows how stupid he is. He was hoping she would have a car accident when he sent Tammy off to visit her parents. He knew she didn’t like to make long car trips alone and yet he did that hoping she would have a crash. Then Alex fails to shoot her so attempt 3 has to be successful.
Were his kids asleep in the house when he and Alex held her down and strangled her? Goodness gracious. At least one of them must have been. Maybe Chad slipped Tammy one of JJ’s pills to sedate her so she wouldn’t cry out and make a noise.
I think they must have drugged Tylee as well “cause she would have fought for her life.
All the jury needs to know is that Chad increased Tammy’s life insurance and that he sent that stupid raccoon text.
I heard about the increased life insurance but what was the racoon text?
@@roriemcfadden6097he sent Tammy a text “
What a day I had today, saw a raccoon walking along the wall, shot it and burned it, now buried in the pet cemetery “
Something along these lines to justify a grave when Tammy arrived home, this text matched the timeline of Tylee death I think , also to highlight that raccoons apparently do not come out during the daytime and there were never any raccoons found buried in Chad and Tammys back yard, think Tammy was alive for two weeks with poor Tylee and JJ buried there, before being murdered, then barely 2 weeks later chad snd Lori get married knowing Charles, Tammy, Tylee and Jj were murdered 😢💔💔💔
@@roriemcfadden6097 The day after Tylee was last seen alive, Chad sent this weird text to Tammy: “Well, I’ve had an interesting morning! I felt I should burn all of the limb debris by the fire pit before it got too soaked by the coming storms. While I did so, I spotted a big raccoon along the fence. I hurried and got my gun, and he was still walking along. I got close enough that one shot did the trick. He is now in our pet cemetery. Fun times!” An obvious effort to cover for burning and using his gun at the time of Tyler’s death, at the location where her charred, dismembered remains were buried. He must have been afraid his activity had been seen or heard and came up with this story.Poor Tammy must have been baffled.
Yeah, that raccoon text and the timing of it is extremely damning. He’s so stupid.
..and it's sick enough to blow away a raccoon,just because it's there ( if it were true that is..) and considering it to be " fun times" ! What a jerk !
That chair Vinnie is sitting in makes him look like Count Dracula.😂
But Vinnie run for any office, I'd vote for you! Brilliant speech!
Lol... didn't notice that!!!
Thank you so much for having Vinnie on. This was great!
I've been a plaintiff - a defendant - a witness, and a juror. Being a juror was the toughest. Witness the second hardest.
Do you live in Florida? Just curious
What made being a juror the hardest?
I call cap on this
@terrifuller You call “cap” on someone having real life experiences? Lmao
@@terrifullerdefendant doesn’t mean criminal. Even if it was..shit happens 🤷🏼♀️. I’d sill like to know their insights. 😊
John Pryor , Chad's lawyer, is very stroppy and argumentative. Of course an attorney should be full of fight. But going by how he behaved in all the hearings up to now, he can be pretty abrasive. BUT he might tone that down for the jury.
If he doesn't, they'll come to dislike him.
He is so irritating I had to stop watching. I just couldn’t take it anymore.
Having him still representing Chud is all part of the plan. Sadly, the Idaho taxpayers will be out the expense of a second trial, third, fourth, etc.
Vinnie is awesome! Thanks for joining Nate, and the whole East Idaho News true crime community. Great discussion!!
Apparently they call him The Slug in prison!
The Slug?! That's fitting...it fits him to a T.
Can't get lower to the ground than a slug.
Vinnie, Chad may fight like hell but it will be a slam dunk guilty verdict. Plus Chad's body language will be the same from start to finish. A constant blank look. Zero emotion.
Guy has the personality of a wet noodle.
He’s so creepy.
@@loricoyle5755indeed. It would be more human if he moved from time to time but of course he is exalted and probably on a portal right now so we can’t be critical of a god who has been married to Lori more than once. That’s quite a feat. Can anyone see if he is wearing his wedding ring? My iPad is so small I can’t even work out who is who.
@@Soffityeven if I zoom in, the quality is too poor. Usually I increase the quality and then zoom in, but nothing helps.
@@SoffityAre they allowed to have wedding rings in jail? I thought they have everything personal taken from them.
Tammy's death was missed. Charles Vallow's death was missed! Red Flags that the local LI ignored.
I agree. I still cannot for the life of me see how they thought Charles’s death was self defence. The story was crazy. “I had to go into my room to get my gun” what? And no one questioned Chad saying his wife had been so sick when she was very hale and hearty. I, amazed his children didn’t say something. “No dad there was nothing wrong with mum, she was training for a run and doing dance clog classes”. What is wrong with these people?
@@Soffity Mormon LDS religion fries your brain. I grew up in it. It took a LOT to get my brain out of their labyrinth.
It's a cult. It's all built on a lie meant to gain power over people, and exploit them. So they indoctrinate people from childhood to not think anymore. They just are trained to obey leaders. In the temple, they vow to obey leaders and to give everything they have and are to the leaders of the church. Not to God . To the church.
It's really scary, and Ruby Franke and Jodi are the outcome of it taken to it's logical conclusion.
@@Soffitydenial is very powerful
@@user-wz2zw8wq2p good point. Also some people are much more prone to it than others. I tend to say it how it is but I have a friend who refuses to admit her age.
Chad’s kids seem to be in denial. It must be very difficult to be told your father is a mass murderer when all your life he has been your kind dad who has looked after you and presumably loved your mother.
@@SoffityI agree. He made sure to treat Tammy nice & loving when the kids were around. Tammy seen the red flags 🚩 when he stopped calling & texting her.
I love these guys. Nate for his dedication on his Daybell beat, and Vinnie for his legal views and beautiful blue, blue eyes.
Thank you so much Nate for the great job you have done for the last 4 years!!
Awesome interview! Really liked Vinnie. Thanks 🎉
Vinnie and Nate...what a great duo.
Vinnie gets his good skin from his amazing mom, Marion. His dad, a federal judge, was an honest, ethical Man.
great combination of talent!
If Pryor is going to throw Lori and Alex under the bus then he should have insisted Chad divorce her. There was time while he sat in jail to serve her! This will backfire. Pryor's job as a defender is to throw as much crap against the wall and see what sticks. Lawyers do it all the time!
I agree. He doesn’t even want to defend him so he’ll do a lousy job
He’s going to try and exploit spousal privilege. And then pull some “LORI DID IT” nonsense.
Staying married means Lori doesn’t have to appear against Chad
@@veverest2155 Hadn’t thought of that. Great point!
This was my favorite interview Nate thus far. Great work.
It was very interesting, I’m not American and the trials in my country are not available to the public so I’m enjoying the whole process. It’s just tragic four lovely humans lost their lives to these exalted beings. Seeing what Colby, Kay and Larry , Summer and Tammy’s lovely family have gone thru is just so heart breaking it really is. Kay sobbing loudly in the car was ghastly to see. How can Lori sit there smiling and flirting with her wierd hair pony tail and crazy round red circles on her cheeks saying Tammy is her dear friend.
When Colby said he wanted to hit Chad in the face with a shovel I thought that was a good idea and I’m not a violent person at all. However what Chad did to the kids and his loving supportive kind wife is beyond any comprehension.
Exalted gods and goddesses my foot. Heinous, incendiary murderers is more like it.
Mine too!
@Soffity I could not agree with you more. I have followed this case since the day the kids went missing. This story gripped me like no other. Nate has always been our boots on the ground for coverage. I will see this one through till the end. After this we have Lori's conspiracy charges for Charles and Branden. Justice is coming! I appreciate your comment.
Vinnie is right, SCOTUS should be transparent
Dynamic duo you two. Thanks for this great interview!
Thanks for this interview!
Two of the best together 💌💌💌
Vinnie said the lawyers are allowed to make up arguments they don't believe in but what I am interested in are they also allowed to lie? Here in Germany the defendants are allowed to tell all kinds of lie they want to but the lawyers are not allowed to, so sometimes it's better your lawyer don't know the excat truth of something.
Vinnie i can't see how he will get off. It's going to be mind blowing!! ,🇨🇦🙏 Thanks Nate!!
Great interview, Nate! Vinnie is a real one & definitely knows his stuff. Thank you to you both!
Saw it late but loved this interview! I live in IL and had never heard of EIN or Nate until this case. You have it in you to go far and hope you do!! Keep on national stuff if you can!! I'll certainly be watching!! 👍🏻👍🏻
You'll love the Secret Santa series on EIN
@@1962pjhIndeed! It's a beautiful, joyous, and altruistic idea come to fruition. The recipients are sometimes shocked, but I believe always, very happy. Whoever is involved in making this idea become a reality --- thank you very much! ❤
They also do a Feel Good Friday segment. Its super cool. I Love Listening to Nate. I found him right before Loris trial. I am currently living in a hotel. Everytime we leave we turn on the 2023 5hr secret santa episodes to drown out the noise from outside so my dog isnt barking as much.
Chump Dumbell and Whori Shallow throw away the key. He's playing victtim.
Great dialog! Thanks, gentlemen 😊
My 2 most very favorite court reporters!! Very interesting!! Watching from Lafayette, Louisiana!!
Vinnie is one of my favorite interviews that you've done so far on this case. They're all good. But this one is the top imho.
My two favourite guys ❤❤❤❤ two of the best for 👌 sure 💯
If I could sit down with Chad Daybell I’d ask him only one question and keep on him until I got my answer. Why is he fighting the death penalty so hard? Shouldn’t he be looking forward to it? After all, he has told anyone who’d listen (and a lot who’d rather not have) that he’s immortal, talks to God and gosties, has his own traveling portal, and is going to be rewarded with a planet of his own when he leaves this world. So Chad, why not just leave it then and go on to your rich reward? The sooner the better right? Thats what you said, right?
Excellent point
Exactly. Shows you exactly he didn't believe his own hogwash unlike all those other nuts who did and did nothing! They should be prosecuted too.
Oh that’s good!!
Right on 👍🏻
Excellent! Love you both ! ❤️💯
Great men here wanting to get to the truth, love watching all of your shows and the explanation’s we might not understand! Keep up the good work and thank you.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Vinnie… John Pryor is a whiny, slimy defense attorney who the general public aren’t fond of. Look at his own record.
He didn’t want this case. He tried hard to get out of it
Well, he owns Chad’s house now.
John got charged with rape pled it down to lesser charge got to keep his license smh
@@loislane856 He wants this case, I’m sorry that his stunt fooled you.
Yes it's going to be heaving in that courtroom
Prosecution should call Lori in to Chad's Trials. Lori won't be able to resist seeing her lover ... face to face.
And what a prize he is 😂
@@loricoyle5755 lol 😆
What good would that do? She's still whackadoodle and totally infatuated by Chad?
A lot of interesting takes on the upcoming trail of Chad’s coming up! I still believe there is too much evidence against Chad for him to escape the death penalty. Like wanting Tammy to be buried very soon after her death. Having her Insurance policy to the highest amount possible and immediately getting married.
Great interview Nate!!! Thanks for all of your hard work!!
Vinnie and Nate should have podcast together.
There’s 3 phases to a DP trial.
Great interview. Thanks to both of you.
Thank you this was a great insight❤
Great interview~!
I wonder if Lori gave up Chads defense in her closing statement. “accidental deaths happen. Suicide happens. Fatal side effects from medication happen.”
Maybe she gave it away.
Good point! Hmmm. 🤔
We shall see.
Vinny really should have people do a better job of promoting his show. He never told what providers have it, he never mentioned the app, he never mentioned how we can rewatch the show directly on the site (though the app does not allow that specifically), though the app does let you view it live, and he never had you tell what time it was on, etc.
Great to see Nate! He knows this case inside and out.
Will Colby have to testify again I wonder?
This was a great interview!! Thank you!
I agree, he will definitely throw her under the bus
Wouldn't surprise if he turned on his son too! The one that "found" Tammy. Interesting that he of all Tammys children still believe Chad. Poor Tammy she deserved better from ALL her children!
Another awesome interview, Nate! And, on a not so serious note… anyone else try to remove that eyelash from left top corner of your phones? (Only pertinent to those viewing on phones)😉
Watching from Canada 🇨🇦
Been watching since 2020 and I am wondering how Colby is holding up?
I hope he’s been able to heal.
Great job Nate!
Do Chad's children believe that he killed Tammy or Lori's children?
I think they believe Chad which is eerie but it’s odd they’re not there to support him.
@@BuddyBear-j2rIdk if they STILL believe Chad; they might not want to say that they changed their minds. Thinking your father may have murdered your mother is a very tough thing to embrace, but at some point it must become undeniable, especially since there were so many odd events involved. It's one thing for them to admit it to themselves, another for them to admit it to the world. Perhaps we'll hear more from them once Chad is convicted of Tammy's murder.
Nope, they think Lori is behind all of it.
@@annettepiff4583 Very good point. I would have a very hard time wrapping my head around all of this. I can’t imagine what the kids are going through.
Good coverage and good discussion! I can't wait for opening statements!
He will try to say Alex was involved sexually with lori and set him up
He WAS! lol
@@1962pjhtrue. Very weird family.
You might be right! Thinking of ANY plausible defense (Casey Anthony: baby drowned).. that would be the only one that could but won’t show reasonable doubt.
Thank you for clarifying this case at every turn. Excellent reporting
Vinnie put into words all that has been in my head. 🎉
Watching from Carterville, Illinois. Thank you!
Chad will be found guilty. I'm 100% certain. But boy is his trial going to be a circus!!!
Love the way Nate and Vinnie both express their thoughts and views. Love listening to them both!
I really appreciate Vinnie's comments!!!! What's up with Idaho not wanting camera's? (Lori's trial) I think John Prior will contest the death of Tammy because the original death was not ruled as homicide...he will definitely point finger at Lori and Alex regarding Tylee and JJ
Vinnie is amazing
Has Chad filed for divorce? Are they still married?
That would be a good point to make to the jury if Chad's going to throw Lori under the bus. If he hasn't even filed for divorce, it won't be good for him.
Nate QUESTION/COMMENT:
Do you think that Lori's mother, who communicates with her, will give her the facts if infact Chad throws her under the bus and she'll want to testify in court? I can see her possibly having a fit find Miguel he turned against her if in fact that is their defense. Absolutely love love love love love love your channel! Starting watching you giving out Christmas gifts to the community. I also saw you go into Hawaii. You and your staff should be very proud of finding her there and bringing this to the true crime community. God Bless you and your family! Keep up the good work. You are a very good reporter and I hope your boss knows. If not go national! Lol 😊
I don't know where Miguel came from😅. It should say finding out.
Is Lori’s ongoing trial for Brandon being televised?
Politan overstates "the no extra drama." There are defense attorneys who treat a televised trial as an extended commercial for themselves.
Nate and Vinnie, the top 2 advocates for truth and justice and children.
Love Vinnie Politan! He is spot on! Thanks for having him on, Nate!
IM A DETECTIVE VINNIE WHO IS TEACHINGS YOUNGER DETECTIVES ABOUT THIS AND IF THEY DONT TIE THE 3 TOGETHER THEY WONT GET A VERDIT
Love Nate. Such an upstanding guy
Like Vinnie's analysis. We are biased by all we've seen in media and audio of Lori's trial. Glad to hear him saying Chad had right to start trial with a clean slate. I agree, Tammy's death going to be toughest to defend and conspiracy on the kids buried in your yard. Conspiracy still life tho, so I think if he doesn't get DP he's gonna get life for conspiracy. MHO of course but Prior will have done the major job - no DP.
🙋♂️ Question: I know Chad is paying for his lawyer out of his own money and property, but we’re his experts and investigators covered by the government or not? Because I know sometimes if your lawyer works for free because you don’t have enough money the government still must pay for your experts.b
Great choice to bring Vinnie. Love his perspectives and views.
The other difference between chafs vs loris trial is chads children are watching, Loris kids are desd...
Nice to see Vinnie here. I watch him regularly. Can't wait for this court case to be done, and Chad a d Chad can move on to prison, death sentence or not.
Great collab
Hey Nate from ky. I learned so much from Vinnie thank you!
great to see Vinnie on your show!
Vinnie had the chance to actually talk about the evidence in the case, and instead talks about the ephemeral "justice?"
Chad will be sunk by what he said and did BEFORE each death. And what he said and did AFTER each death. And all the lies, to the funeral director, the cops, and to his friends and families. What "innocent man" reacts that way to the deaths of a "friend's" husband and kids? Does he console her? No. He calls a funeral home, lies about who and where he is, to get prices on services. And what "innocent man" reacts that way to his own wife's death? Tries to cremate her against everyone's wishes? Then marries some secret woman TWO WEEKS LATER? Then lies to EVERYONE about how, where and when they met? Then lies about her having no kids?? Tries to flee the police after they find the kids' bodies in his backyard??? and that phone call while the cops were searching. Talking with Lori in jail. Neither of them wondered why the cops were there? Neither of them asked what they could be looking for?? They didn't discuss that, because THEY BOTH KNEW THE KIDS WERE BURIED THERE. Because they had them killed.
Good summary. On point👍
My two favorite reporters ever!!!!!!!
‘Chad’s books were stupid’.. 😂 Truth & reality are quite the buzzkill, Lori! Love Nate.
I don't understand how it's unethical for the defense team to find the truth. Isn't that what justice is all about is finding the truth?
Well done Vinnie Great collaboration Nate 🇨🇦👏🏾
Interview w/Vinnie from CTV? Yes, please!! 🍿 This was fascinating, great questions, Nate! Looking forward to justice for Tylee, JJ, & Tammy. 🕊💜 💙
They can they have their cell phones together in the pet Sematary destroying those poor kids bodies
Two of my favourite people!!! ❣️❣️❣️
Surprised that Vinnie made it through jury selection!
He came up with the dark and light numbers, and he wrote all about the storm. The children found in his yard. I'm sorry he knew about it all. Did nothing.
It isn't a defense attorney's job to lie on behalf of their client. The notion that trying to argue a total fabrication is some type of perverted ethical responsibility is an anathema to human decency. The fact that this guest could state such a thing with a straight face is the precise point at which we see what has been lost.
If i didnt know a thing about this case and saw the evidence I would find him guilty .God is good and he will pay for his crime.
Nate, thanks for having guests this week. They were all great except Nancy Grace. I just can’t listen to her. They were all so different and I learned a lot. It was interesting to see their different lens on this case
Will it be possible that an appeal of the state constitution regarding death certified public defenders will be challenged? And therefore mitigation and allocution were not represented?
I love this duo!!!!
I love ❤️ Vinnie . U too Nate . I love ur reporting and ur style . Thanks for the excellent reporting
Need to have Vinnie back during the hearing
05:50 Hmm🤔, good description. Thanks Vinnie. It'll help to have this awareness from now on i.e. when listening to Prior or to Defense Attourneys in general that I feel are annoying.