I have done this technique since I was a young teen. It works for aggressive and sweet horses alike. Choose extremely soft ground. Non chafing rigging , and have zero temperament involved. Some horses want to rear but soon calm down. I learned this in an extremely old eequine husbandry book. Glad to see you do it! .
This is a great video but not as easy as it looks. My little 17yr old mare had gotten herd/barn sour over the years. She was at a gallop from the minute I got in the saddle to back to the trailer no matter what ground work I did, bit I used or how hard I tried to relax her on the trail. Took 2 of us old gals 3 hours! Once she gave up it was like a miracle and she is relaxed and peaceful and back to being my trail buddy.
good horse trainer, and those of you that think that he is abusing you, that is not abusing, horses need to have ropes on them so they get used to certain things. Look at really horse abusers that beat them with chains!!! Think Again, this is not abuse.
I have a 7 year old gelding that I've been laying down since he was 2. He goes down very quietly and easily with a minimal cue, but doesn't always want to stay down. Once he is down, he will either start rolling or stand right up. Any advice?
I'm gonna have to try this on my gelding - I putting down his paddock mate with in the next two weeks they've been together for 11months and are a great pair, she mothers him and calms him when it rains and when he is just having a bad day. Hopefully this will help him
I did that with my horse and it didn't go well. it took me two days to get him down. everytime I do it hell go down to a bowing position and bob up and down before hell lie down. but before he did lay down he gave me a lot of fight. constantly rearing and bucking. I advise the ppl that try this to expect the worse. be very careful while doing this exercise. and I advise you not to tie the foot just loop the rope and hold it bc if the horse trys tear out of it all you have to do is drop the rope, calm the horse and try again (if u want)
maybe keep the strap on the leg fastened. the reason is that allowing the horse to pull loose is creating more fight in him since he thinks the goal is to get loose. the goal is actually to teach him to surrender to pressure or boundaries.
I had a horse that refused to lay down.After fighting with him.I gave up and he stated bucking me off. Had to sell that horse Broke my heart! Afraid to try it on my new horse.Don't want to mess her up too.ivory
We are always to some degree forcing our horses to do things for us. It is about the type of force you use whether the horse has trust and faith in you to do the things we ask of them of which they have no choice but to do. When I ride my horse she has no choice in the matter, she is pretty willing but without a doubt she rather would be doing nothing so I have to Make her though it is not a lot of force because she doesn't argue that much so it seems unforced but it is.
no you don't leave the horse trapped when it done what you asked you only use pressure on this horse you needed to let the horse go after 5 seconds after it lay down and been relaxed you didn't use pressure and release what made the horse want to get up and you brought to fail by doing only pressure
I used to not understand the reason for this. I have an adopted BLM mustang and I now understand. This isn't mean or abusive. If you've got a horse that will not submit, this is a kind way to get them to submit. Not sure if it would be necessary with a domestic horse but a wild one, yes, it may be necessary.
this isnt being forced hes using pressure... the horse has two options to to stay standing which is uncomfortable (not painful) or to lay down to release the pressure This isnt a trick this method is used to teach the horse to trust and respect his human they also use this on aggressive horses it works like a charm
i see there are a few people in here. that think laying this horse down is cruel. please tell me where you see abuse. i have had to lay down a few horses. its not abuse it will really help a horse that is dangerest. and it helps a horse that is really scared of everything. i had a horse brought to me that broke his owners arm and leg. because was babied so much and had no self confidence. So wheres the abuse to that. After working with him laying him down and putting him in the most vulnerable place for him. Then rubbing him and shacking him out. He came around. His owner now rides him everywhere trails parades. I laid him down and had her rub him all over and then see let him up. So if you do it right theres no abuse. PERIOD
Try to do this to a horse that respects you but still has his/her own will. For the first time, it might take half an hour to lay down a horse without ropes, but once the horse learns it and is comfortable with it, you can lay down a horse on command in 5 seconds. And you don't have to pull the poor horse around with your dumb ropes.
Horse training should never be about winning fights. Horses know nothing of winning or losing fights or submission. There's never a need to lay any horse down to gain his confidence.
Neil, In case you haven't noticed, horses actually do fight, especially with each other. I have a mare here that if i were to take her to your place and turn her loose with a bunch of strange horses she would go through the whole mob until each one surrendered to her as the Alpha. Then, as long as the others respect her they would all live in perfect harmony. I wish so called horsemen like yourself were not so critical of other horsemen that are only out there trying to make a living. I've read some of your comments on other youtube videos and you obviously have to much time on your hands or feel threatened by somebody with years of experience. I also saw the letter you wrote to Will Swanton this week regarding horse racing and suggest you get your facts straight before going off half cocked and looking like a fool. For starters horses in the racing industry do not and have never been allowed to race in anti rearing bits! Dont believe me? Do your research!
Lee Leach I'm late to the party, but what Neil said is in the context of horse training. Your analogy regarding your mare is horse behavior amongst horses. If your mare used that same herd instinct behavior with you, you'd lose every time. Personally attacking Neil was uncalled for. I think you just didn't understand his point and thought he was attacking which wasn't his intent.
***** so, I guess that explains why most horses turn and walk/run away when they're turned out after riding? Or why some horses are hard to catch? I think horses are smart enough to know humans aren't horses. We can agree to disagree.
That's a very well thought out, cogent argument. However I still disagree because horses can be taught desired behaviors by other methods than the dominance/submission (herd mentality) model.
While natural horsemanship is light years ahead of the old methods, it's the human integration into the herd I have a problem with. When I was a kid I rode open pastures all day long and had obedient and willing horses for the most part. When walking those pastures on foot those same horses all but ignored me. If I approached too closely they typically walked off. Those experiences taught me that I wasn't the leader of the herd. I don't pretend to have all the answers and I let common sense and experience be my guide. Overall I think we are more in agreement than not.
That's just horrible,if I did this to my horse he wouldn't like me or trust me anymore,domt do it this way people.i this is what you call breaking a horse
Poor horse! all that stuff is rubbish unnecessary. The horse put all his weight on one knee very harmful to the horse and the music makes it a pity for the horse (animal cruelty)
Why do you say poor horse.... Please understand you are not aware here. ..this has been done correct. A horse does this naturally on their own. Many will bow onto one or both knees before they go into a lay down all by them self and onto a lot harder ground. This man is doing it in a soft sand, the horse as you see is quiet, comfortable with this process. The only one puffing here is the man lol
I have done this technique since I was a young teen. It works for aggressive and sweet horses alike. Choose extremely soft ground. Non chafing rigging , and have zero temperament involved. Some horses want to rear but soon calm down.
I learned this in an extremely old eequine husbandry book.
Glad to see you do it! .
very well delivered!!
This is a great video but not as easy as it looks. My little 17yr old mare had gotten herd/barn sour over the years. She was at a gallop from the minute I got in the saddle to back to the trailer no matter what ground work I did, bit I used or how hard I tried to relax her on the trail. Took 2 of us old gals 3 hours! Once she gave up it was like a miracle and she is relaxed and peaceful and back to being my trail buddy.
Chris McIntosh thanks for your story!!
good horse trainer, and those of you that think that he is abusing you, that is not abusing, horses need to have ropes on them so they get used to certain things. Look at really horse abusers that beat them with chains!!! Think Again, this is not abuse.
I have a 7 year old gelding that I've been laying down since he was 2. He goes down very quietly and easily with a minimal cue, but doesn't always want to stay down. Once he is down, he will either start rolling or stand right up. Any advice?
Hey are you an Aussie and is that pony a brumby?
Can also teach a horse to lay down using clicker training, which isn't forcing.
this is the best vidoe I have seen on this subject. funny how it is an aussie :-) that makes it just plain and simple :-)
I'm gonna have to try this on my gelding - I putting down his paddock mate with in the next two weeks they've been together for 11months and are a great pair, she mothers him and calms him when it rains and when he is just having a bad day. Hopefully this will help him
Kő?
i have a 7 year old that just does not want to lay down any advice
I did that with my horse and it didn't go well. it took me two days to get him down. everytime I do it hell go down to a bowing position and bob up and down before hell lie down. but before he did lay down he gave me a lot of fight. constantly rearing and bucking.
I advise the ppl that try this to expect the worse.
be very careful while doing this exercise. and I advise you not to tie the foot just loop the rope and hold it bc if the horse trys tear out of it all you have to do is drop the rope, calm the horse and try again (if u want)
maybe keep the strap on the leg fastened. the reason is that allowing the horse to pull loose is creating more fight in him since he thinks the goal is to get loose. the goal is actually to teach him to surrender to pressure or boundaries.
@@zandeosaddles208 yep.
I love laying with my filly so fun..
I had a horse that refused to lay down.After fighting with him.I gave up and he stated bucking me off. Had to sell that horse Broke my heart! Afraid to try it on my new horse.Don't want to mess her up too.ivory
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We are always to some degree forcing our horses to do things for us. It is about the type of force you use whether the horse has trust and faith in you to do the things we ask of them of which they have no choice but to do. When I ride my horse she has no choice in the matter, she is pretty willing but without a doubt she rather would be doing nothing so I have to Make her though it is not a lot of force because she doesn't argue that much so it seems unforced but it is.
no you don't leave the horse trapped when it done what you asked you only use pressure on this horse you needed to let the horse go after 5 seconds after it lay down and been relaxed you didn't use pressure and release what made the horse want to get up and you brought to fail by doing only pressure
it sounds like when he lays down keep pressure on that halter lead rop so he won't get back up or start rolling
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I used to not understand the reason for this. I have an adopted BLM mustang and I now understand. This isn't mean or abusive. If you've got a horse that will not submit, this is a kind way to get them to submit. Not sure if it would be necessary with a domestic horse but a wild one, yes, it may be necessary.
this isnt being forced hes using pressure... the horse has two options to to stay standing which is uncomfortable (not painful) or to lay down to release the pressure
This isnt a trick this method is used to teach the horse to trust and respect his human they also use this on aggressive horses it works like a charm
i see there are a few people in here. that think laying this horse down is cruel. please tell me where you see abuse. i have had to lay down a few horses. its not abuse it will really help a horse that is dangerest. and it helps a horse that is really scared of everything. i had a horse brought to me that broke his owners arm and leg. because was babied so much and had no self confidence. So wheres the abuse to that. After working with him laying him down and putting him in the most vulnerable place for him. Then rubbing him and shacking him out. He came around. His owner now rides him everywhere trails parades. I laid him down and had her rub him all over and then see let him up. So if you do it right theres no abuse. PERIOD
Try to do this to a horse that respects you but still has his/her own will. For the first time, it might take half an hour to lay down a horse without ropes, but once the horse learns it and is comfortable with it, you can lay down a horse on command in 5 seconds. And you don't have to pull the poor horse around with your dumb ropes.
So fast
This is to drop their fear of human's and sucumb to us.
Doesnt look like he is trying to teach the horse to lay down.
what's this??????
could this system work on my wife to get her to be more submissive ?
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Horse training should never be about winning fights. Horses know nothing of winning or losing fights or submission. There's never a need to lay any horse down to gain his confidence.
Neil, In case you haven't noticed, horses actually do fight, especially with each other. I have a mare here that if i were to take her to your place and turn her loose with a bunch of strange horses she would go through the whole mob until each one surrendered to her as the Alpha. Then, as long as the others respect her they would all live in perfect harmony. I wish so called horsemen like yourself were not so critical of other horsemen that are only out there trying to make a living. I've read some of your comments on other youtube videos and you obviously have to much time on your hands or feel threatened by somebody with years of experience. I also saw the letter you wrote to Will Swanton this week regarding horse racing and suggest you get your facts straight before going off half cocked and looking like a fool. For starters horses in the racing industry do not and have never been allowed to race in anti rearing bits! Dont believe me? Do your research!
Lee Leach I'm late to the party, but what Neil said is in the context of horse training. Your analogy regarding your mare is horse behavior amongst horses. If your mare used that same herd instinct behavior with you, you'd lose every time. Personally attacking Neil was uncalled for. I think you just didn't understand his point and thought he was attacking which wasn't his intent.
***** so, I guess that explains why most horses turn and walk/run away when they're turned out after riding? Or why some horses are hard to catch? I think horses are smart enough to know humans aren't horses. We can agree to disagree.
That's a very well thought out, cogent argument. However I still disagree because horses can be taught desired behaviors by other methods than the dominance/submission (herd mentality) model.
While natural horsemanship is light years ahead of the old methods, it's the human integration into the herd I have a problem with.
When I was a kid I rode open pastures all day long and had obedient and willing horses for the most part. When walking those pastures on foot those same horses all but ignored me. If I approached too closely they typically walked off. Those experiences taught me that I wasn't the leader of the herd.
I don't pretend to have all the answers and I let common sense and experience be my guide.
Overall I think we are more in agreement than not.
My God, this poor Horse
What about this is "asking your horse"? Very sad
This is not the correct way!
Cruel
Poor horse
That's just horrible,if I did this to my horse he wouldn't like me or trust me anymore,domt do it this way people.i this is what you call breaking a horse
No. No. You shouldn't have to use a rope to make them lay down. Poor horse.
Emma Lundin are you serious
you do not have to use a rope, but it takes longer without I taught my filly without tying her, but he is not hurting that horse at all..
Poor horse! all that stuff is rubbish unnecessary. The horse put all his weight on one knee very harmful to the horse and the music makes it a pity for the horse (animal cruelty)
Why do you say poor horse.... Please understand you are not aware here. ..this has been done correct. A horse does this naturally on their own. Many will bow onto one or both knees before they go into a lay down all by them self and onto a lot harder ground. This man is doing it in a soft sand, the horse as you see is quiet, comfortable with this process. The only one puffing here is the man lol