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- Everyone knows I use Rhinoceros 3D for CAD and MeshCam for CAM. But nobody knows why I don't use Fusion 360. Until now. Show your support! Visit www.eguitarplans.com/ and buy a plan. Or visit highline-custom-guitars-2.cre... and buy a shirt!
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I agree this subscription model is trash. I wonder if autodesk pays money every month to original inventors of all mathematical concepts they are using in their software?
I think it is really important to note how this video was approached and I applaud Chris for looking at this using a "cost-benefit" type approach. F360 makes sense for a lot of users (we use it in my shop because my son is in college so we get it for free right now), for some it doesn't and Rhino/meshcam works just fine 95% of the time.
Very informative. Good to know this!!!
Interesting thought process. I've only used Fusion360 for CAM. Still evaluating it, I'll have a look at MeshCam
I also started with Fusion, found it ok but I hated the subscription idea. It didn’t matter much at the time but I knew one day it would bite me. I then tried Rhino and it was a moment of clarity almost immediately. I’ll never go back to 360. Some guys are doing great things with it and I commend them but Rhino is where I’m happy.
I'm glad it's not just me. I have been struggling with CAM in Fusion for too long. If software were a thing I could throw against the wall, I would have shattered Fusion 360 into a thousand pieces long ago.
😂😂😂 Ditto!
It seems to refuse to do today what it happily did yesterday.
I'm in the middle of doing what you described right now. I'm demoing a bunch of cad and cam software to support my shapeoko CNC.
I found that fusion360, even though I qualify to use it for free, I don't see myself using it. It is very laggy and clunky just clicking through the menus and trying to make a basic model.
Rhinoceros had a bit of a learning curve, but I was able to make the model I wanted. Only after I was done with the model did it dawn on me that its not easy to make changes. Like if you used a circle feature very early on and then did 9000 other steps to your model, you can't come back in later and decide you want to increase the size of that circle. I redid my model from scratching using their grasshopper software and that allows me to tweak the basic building block of my idea without having to go back and repeat a ton of steps.
I'm kinda stuck on the CAM side. I installed meshcam and am running through the trial period. Mine looks a lot more dumbed down than what I see in your video and what I see other people showing online. IDK if its because I'm under the evaluation license or what.
Subscription based software sucks and was the end of my usage of all Adobe products.
Great explanation from business point of view.
Fusion 360 is still best software for people who want to learn parametric or work on side projects. Once you learn the F360 you will switch to any other soft in a heartbeat
Very useful for me to hear your long term comments on Fusion 360, vs ease of use for Rhino from the start. I have NEVER liked Autodesk, or their products, finding AutoCAD quite cumbersome (back in 1986 and this has never seemed to got easier, just more complicated), but was faced with inevitably having to go with Autodesk Fusion 360 with a new 3D project and not looking forward to that at all! Rhino I will now seriously investigate. Also a cloud server program (Fusion 360) is more damaging for the environment than a download and use off line (Rhino 3D) program. Many thanks to you, guitar dude!
Another interesting video. Thank you Chris. I should be interested to know which version of MeshCAM you use, the standard or pro? Regards and thanks again.
8. Standard.
I agree with you, I should love to see it cheaper
I learned CAD with Fusion 360 but am now switching to FreeCAD for similar reasons. Probably will buy Rhino or Alibre if I need to. I hate SAAS. I would rather pay more upfront to actually own something.
Quite funny to see the comments of people struggling with F360 workflow... i never had any issue with that. I understand the logic of he software and its purpose. F360 is NOT a design iteration software, not an exploration software, is not some software where you figure out what you want to do.
Fusion 360 is a parametric modelling software for engineering applications, where you design something you already KNOW how it must look like. And then prepare it for whatever manufacturing process...
People who use F360 to figure out their design are mostly the ones getting stuck. People who think one CAD software should be enough.
In reality, you need a mesh modeler (blender, sketchup, etc) that will help you figure out shapes. Alternatively, a nurbs modeller, like Rhinoceros or Moi3d can take this place, depending on what the designer/artist is doing. And then, for manufacturing, a software like F360, SolidWorks, FreeCAD is needed. But you can't do everything in any of the above. Each of them is best suited in some part of the design process.
A few years ago I dove into Fusion 360. Now I find parametric sketches is the only way I imagine things anymore. It took a while for it to sink in. The learning curve is high. On the positive side, there's a tutorial for tons of things on Fusion 360 and I've never had a problem getting something to work on a 3D printer or CNC. But, I still get to use it for free as a hobbyist. $60/month is pretty ridiculous for little guys. Maybe $20/month with a max of 20 editable models would be good. Rhinoceros sounds like it's worth a look. Thanks.
He hits the nail on the head with the lack of "in between" pricing.
I think ideally it would be a one time purchase with a license for updates for a finite period of time, and option for cloud saving subscription at a modest price.
It's also a software that "does everything" and they could easily monetize the plugins so that hobbyists and prosumers buy as much functionality as they need, and full scale fabrication places can buy as much as they need. /2cents
I know... sketches and dimensional constraints make it so easy to build something exact...... I'm thinking of moving to free can, but it's just so user unfriendly in comparisson.....
This seems kind of silly, there are a ton of vague comments with not a single specific example of what you found confusing. And half the video complained about the fact you wanted to pay half the cost.
Fusion isn't "just fusion" you have parametric modeling, surface tools, rendering, mesh workspace, CAM, simulations, and more. The UI is far more modern and logical than any other software I have yet to use, most of the time it's just a matter of people not having direction and getting lost in the many options. I would be very curious to hear what you 'had trouble' getting it to do in either CAD or CAM space. Both have very concrete baselines to understand across any platform, then just seeing how to set it up in specific software. For example... anyone doing any CAM should understand speeds and feeds, depth of cut, radial engagement, and some basics of tooling. Outside of that, you have a very basic handful of cutting operations. 2D or 3D pocket, adaptive, parallel, scallop, etc.
Specifics would be super helpful beyond 'I couldn't get it to do what I want'. I tutor and consult as well as run a side business and day-to-day fabrication shop. The VAST majority of what I see when people complain about Fusion and other programs is user error, people not understanding 'best practices', and with no direction jumping into professional-grade software with no direction or training.
Fusion 360 has loads of great training resources. For CAD and CAM Titans of CNC has a lot that covers Fusion and a whole free academy at CNCExpert.com, and there are numerous other channels to point people in the right direction.
It seems maybe you are using a few basic things from another software and comparing the cost to Fusion which you are using a fraction of, or haven't learned properly. If you want to go super fast and own a Ferarri, but you only go fast sometimes, you don't get to pay half... it's still a Ferrari. And for any business, especially when you can run design, simulation, do all your CAM work, render images, etc., under $500 a year is a steal compared to the actual competitors like MasterCAM and Solidworks which start around 5 figures each and have maintenance costs along that triple what Fusion cost.
The fact that there are so many resources for people who have trouble with Fusion 360 is a red flag to those who are evaluating options. When I had a Facebook guitar building group, I mentioned a few times that I was using Fusion 360. It didn’t take long before I was overwhelmed with requests for help.
For what I and most of fellow guitar builders require, Fusion 360 is titanic overkill. With my current workflow, I can design a guitar from scratch, set the tool paths, and write the g-code in about an hour. And with AI coming to my workflow, it’ll get even easier. I’m sure Fusion 360 will soon benefit from AI as well, and who knows, maybe I’ll switch back. For now, I’ll stick with what I know works and blissfully avoid the Confusion 360 headaches.
@@HighlineGuitarsI think OP’s points are reasonable, and I think you don’t really reply to them. It may well be that you find F360 overpriced for your way of working and your measure of value, but to make the observation that there are some great number of resources to help F360 users who are having trouble (who else would want online resources other than those who are “having trouble”) and conclude that this indicates prospective users should look elsewhere is not sound. Autodesk took a remarkable approach to getting F360 deployed by offering it for free to hobbyists and small businesses. It should be no surprise that among these users, attracted to the prospect of having a professional tool on their desks for zero dollars, would be some great number that have had little or no experience with CAD/CAM (or the other tools in the suite) and would need more help than the pool of users of, say, MasterCAM.
I’m not knocking your preference for (what I assume) is a less expensive workflow (though you are paying Adobe for a vector drawing tool to do the work that the sketch facility of F360 can arguably to better). I find quite a bit of value ($60/mo worth) to the entire CAD/CAM/Simulation workflow within one application-no need to save and manage intermediate files, etc. That’s not even to mention that the cloud-based nature of F360 makes it trivial to set your work down in your shop and then pick it back up again on a different computer in your office or living room.
Add to this the point that the OP makes. F360 is parametric, and has a timeline which allows, well, parametric changes to your design. Try doing that with Illustrator. And, F360 is natively a SOLID modeling environment allowing true Boolean operations with the objects in your design.
Does this make for some complexity and require some time to learn. Of course it does, but to steer your viewers away from a perfectly suitable tool because it doesn’t satisfy your (arguably strict) idea of value, and maybe a thousand of your closest friends don’t like it but can’t quite say why, is poor form.
. . .otherwise, I’ve been enjoying your content.
I was back & forth about using CNC. The subscription software put's the k-bosh on that.
agreed. I used F360 for over a year and found it to be very frustrating. The history tree was unnecessarily confusing, I would constantly run into issues where it just wouldn't grab the part I was trying to focus ono or wouldn't preform the task I needed and It took me hours of time on google trying to figure out what went wrong... and you are right about the sub fee. It just doesn't make sense for a lot of small business owners who are not professionally doing CAD/CAm work daily to pay that much a month.
3:44 Yes! exactly what i would like too!
Financial expenses aside, I think I generally disagree with complaints that Fusion can't do certain things, but I do agree with specific bugginess that I've found for using it on and off for years - and I would STILL recommend fusion 360. Its gotten so much better over the years and anyone complaining about lagginess just needs to invest in an up to date computer. Lets also not forget - even an older computer with a quad core (I was using my Phenom II AMD processor - approx 11 years old now) and it ran perfectly fine - it just took a long time to process some complex tool-paths).
What I agree on: there are convoluted error explanations - simply not enough info to full understand where the problem lies and there is another issue I simply cannot explain and haven't found an answer to. When one draws and dimensions things within a sketch and everything is "defined" and then you decide - hey maybe I need to change a couple of things on the drawing and you change the current definitions to something new like hole size or you might even add another circle and then once you start defining - out of no where other portions of the drawing begin to be unconstrained. Suddenly things that were constrained are no longer constrained. Then no matter how many constraints one adds it stays unconstrained. Whats more odd is that if I delete the unconstrained item and redraw it and add constraints (the same constraints the prior piece had) it constrains the item like its supposed to.
Some told me its because you may have too many constraints (which doesn't make much sense because the program tells you when something is over constrained). Anyway - it gets complicated.
The point though - is that when the program works, it works wonderfully and when you have a complicated drawing, the timeline does wonders.
I just had my job buy me a subscription to Fusion 360 and it saved me hours of drawing/machining compared to using Vcarve. Vcarve is amazing for most simple carpentry drawings and even artwork - Vcarve is wonderful. But when it comes to efficient machining - Fusion is a go to. So I guess it all depends.
On a final note: comparing Fusion 360 value to the adobe suite and saying adobe gives you more for the money is untrue. Fusion does everything from drafting, to machining to simulation, and much more. Just because you don't use the functionality doesn't mean its not there.
I didn't compare Confusion 360 with the Adobe suite. I compared it to several products which when used together are easier, more intuitive, and reliable.
I started using Fusion about 6 or 7 months ago, with no real CAD experience. My computer is a 2013 iMac with an i5 and 8gb RAM, running Windows 10 in Bootcamp. It runs fine.
I don't like a few things about Fusion though, but I find for what I mostly do, it's pretty intuitive, especially when you learn how to project geometry, and how to use planes.
I tried Solid Edge, which imo has a better license model for the free version, and it barely runs on my computer, and I find it difficult to use. It's a shame because I can see it has some great features.
I'm still looking for the right CAD solution. I've since discovered that the education license I'm using on Fusion can be renewed, so I may keep using it.
To be clear, my main beef with Fusion is how it handles files. The workarounds I had to do recently to move a model from one project to another were insane. The problem I had, was I could insert a different project into my current project, but now I couldn't edit it. Then there's the cloud based storage, and the subscription model....
But I love the user interface for the most part.
Perhaps with great capabilities comes great complexity it seems but the I totally agree the cost of fusion is really too much when you get on a few hrs a week i heard about a user pays credits arrangement fior fusion but i think its for the FEA but i would be happy to pay for the rapid travel every time i make a G gode thanks for this content i will give those a look
I also run Rhino and Meshcam. Rhino is the only program that clicked with my mental wiring, and Meshcam is just so simple.
Tried Fusion with some success, but zero intuition and high learning curve.
i have a paid subsrciption with fusion 360 , but often I wont use it for a month here & there . i paid extra for an extension & hardly used it yet I loose it in 5 months , I'm over the subscription , I prefer to buy a program that stays on my hard drive & use it when I like . someone told me about rhino 3d , so now researching it
Agreed, I use a lot of different cnc software and Fusion is way to problematic. While I do like it as a cad/cam software, my issue is the cloud, plus on the free version you're limited to the amount of files you can save. For me that's a no go, it's a wonderful amalgamation of various softwares like Solidworks, NX and Mastercam all rolled into one. But those two factors turned me away. Plus a yearly subscription is a no go, so I turned back to Mastercam and Bobcad, they are more geared towards the machining side of cad/cam. I did use Meshcam some years ago and it was great for what I was doing at the time, but was a bit primitive for me.
There is a tier its the annual fee?? Approx $41 pm
For an Autodesk product, its very clunky. I used to be a Mechanical Designer and have used lots of software, but Fusion 360 was a huge disappointment for me.
Yeah, I spent a few months battling with fusion 360. It just seemed really unstable, and i just could not work out how it was inteneded to work. It clearly was intended to work differently to Solidworks, but i couldn't develop a clear mental model of the software, especially the assemblies. Also found the cloud based storage really confusing. Overall fusion 360 was clunky, unintuitive, confusing and unstable. I've been dabbling a bit with FreeCAD recently, and think that might become my go to CAD software.
Hi there, longtime user of Autodesk products. A lot of the time it was student versions because I was a student at one point. I personally love autodesk and inventor and fusion, it took me about a month worth of time to figure out what everything means. In terms of vocabulary and functionality. I think it just takes someone to dedicate their own time to learning the actual software, a lot of people are used to wire frame or some of the lower tech softwares out there. At least now those other software’s are advancing In a similar direction. But as far as Fusion Alone, there’s not much wrong with it. I feel like if people were inclined to leave user manuals or instructions provided by the companies, people will have a much better time with newer tech. Again I’m speaking from a biased standpoint just because I’ve been using Autodesk products for a long time. I paid $1300 for three years and I think they have just recently started the $1600 additional to get the cam. Of course while you’re learning you can always apply for student version. Or go to school just so you can get the software for free. Some schools offer cad training so maybe there is another thing that you can take into consideration when getting the software for free as a student.
I found fusion360 laggy. Using solidworks and openscad. I love the parametric side , but solidworks a little confuses things
As a beginner in the CNC journey, I can see the logic. $60/month after 16 months or so eclipses the one-time cost of Rhino 3D.
I’ve like Fusion 360 so far, but can get the neck/headstock/volute area to work for anything, so maybe I should try Rhino 😂
Rhino is legit. I came from Industrial Design and imo good schools have Rhino in their curriculum. Most schools want their students using the industry standard, which is SolidWorks/Rhino not F360. F360 wasn't even taught in my program. Students used it because it was easy and sortof like a cheat to get around having to learn SW. Pros use SW and Rhino primarily, although F360 is used on a limited basis. The bugs in F360 dq it from every becoming a standard in the industry tbh.
Have you ever tried Vectric Aspire?
No. I’m a Mac guy.
I get it. It's a lot of money and the things that make it unique are not important to most luthiers. I love it. But they let me have it for free and I've been a cad user in a previous career. But the price? Nope. Not till the ROI makes since.
Fusion 360 wouldn't even install on my MacBook Pro, which has much more than the minimum requirements. After trying unsuccessfully to troubleshoot it for over an hour, I decided it was a sign of what to expect with Fusion 360 and decided to look for a different CAD app for my amateur woodworking projects.
I used to use solidworks, a free copy of the 2012 version they gave me back in college that for some reason was working just fine until the laptop it was in died. Now I just can't afford it. So, F360 it is.
I don't think how many hours a day you use it defines whether you get value from it. You could use it 24/7 if you weren't selling guitars and they wouldn't care.
the plus for Fusion is that is free for non commercial Makers like 90% of us
Yeah, but it's not full featured.
@@HighlineGuitars agree
CAM side of Fusion is awesome. CAD side has me swearing at my computer a lot. Lofting/making 3D bodies is extremely frustrating, theres also so many times in Fusion where you do something once and it doesn't work, you repeat the same exact process a second time and it works, inability or extreme vagueness in problem alerts. A lot of times you can exit out of a procedure and the program will just roll the dice with the camera and shoot you out to some weird perspective, or you are zoomed in on a feature and you want to edit the sketch feature there and it whips the camera out to default so you have to zoom back in. Endless irritating, make no sense problems with 360. The other huge issue with Fusion is that you have to keep subscribing to use your work, it's like you don't own what you produce.
That was exactly my experience and why I call it Confusion 360.
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@@HighlineGuitars would you say autoCAD would be better than fusion for these things. I find it simpler and easier to use but I have read that the 3D side isn't as good.
@@tuomas2789 AutoCAD is infinitely better. Just be careful to set your accuracy level up high. But Rhinoceros 3D looks awesome too. Check out Chris' videos on it.
@@rowanmurphy5239 i tried doing a les paul carvetop in AutoCAD but I couldn't get the curvature to work properly. In fusion it worked as expected. Probably user error but I couldn't figure out why even with reading forums for a couple hours.
F360 subscription makes sense from a point of view of updates and support. Rhino is $995 but version upgrades are $595. With OS updates constantly breaking software, and new features you could easily pay that upgrade price yearly...
Now if they could just make the program user friendly.
Actually you wouldn't, since Rhino releases a new version about every 3-4 years or so.
The os breaking your software is largely irrelevant. You can run the software essentially indefinitely by keeping the same os.
If the os hits eol and security updates stop, simple airgap the pc and run your software offline or run it in a virtual machine, preferably the latter
same thing for me, 3 year old business, don't use it every day... and it would take a while to become as fluid with it as my less capable go to software..... they need some in between usage model.. i guess now i'll never switch over. I'm the kind of user who use it every day for a month, then not use it for months.
I use the free version. I use it for personal use. When it expires I just renew it. But I’m using it to learn. I haven’t built anything with it, since I don’t have a CNC.
I also use the Adobe CC. I’m a graphic artist.
I was a corporate graphic artist for 20 years before going freelance for 10 more years. I still use Adobe CC almost every day!
@@HighlineGuitars I could tell by the way you use Illustrator, which most people wouldn’t pick to draw a guitar in, and also because you’re good at drawing in it.
I draw all my guitars in Illustrator.
I started out in printing back in ‘79, then moved into the computer end of things. That entire field is dead.
Can you pay for a month, stop for a few months. Once you accumulate enough works, then pay for another month?
Call 'em up and ask 'em.
How did they know you were using it to make products?
Artificial intelligence?
@@HighlineGuitars or spying on your data which is supposed to be private and encrypted, I thought.
Former Solidworks user current F360 user... and hating F360... I keep trying Rhino and keep getting frustrated and giving up. I don't understand not being able to give dimensions rather than coordinates. Even in your other video you draw in Illustrator and then extrude in Rhino. What if you needed to make the neck pocket deeper? How is that done? I keep calling Rhino and they keep telling me "It isn't designed that way." I guess I am just too used to a vector based system. ge
I view the model from the right or left side and draw a line or a box with the depth I need and use it a a guide. Hard to explain, but super easy to do.
@JDK Did you delete your comment about MoI3D? I can't find it. At any rate, I downloaded the demo, and WOW! It's not as sophisticated as Rhino 3D, but not as intimidating either. I'm going to build some files with it and see what happens. Very interesting.
@@HighlineGuitars Thank you for your reply. I would do the same thing in Solidworks or F360. But in those I could make the line or box that I planned to cut/extrude a specific length. (Or better yet, just edit the original drawing before the extrusion... which doesn't seem possible in Rhino. That's the part I don't get. How can you deepen the pocket by a specific amount if you can't enter a dimension? I have asked this of Rhino multiple times and they always say the same thing, "It isn't designed that way" or "Go ask the forum what they do."
Perhaps it might be worthwhile for you to take a look at Linux. All the available software is open source and available to anyone at any time, is usually updated frequently and is free. Granted, it may not be up to designing the sucsessor to the Apache helicopter - but it will certainly handle guitar body and neck design without turning a hair. There may be a slight learning curve, but you will be free of the incessant Apple/Windows pressure to get hold of your hard earned money. Linux these days is nothing like the nightmare of old, it actually works very well indeed (which is why almost all the servers in the world run on Linux software!).
$995 for Rhino and $500 for Mesh Cam. Include updates?
Fusion has clutch autosave/ revision functionality. Throws a ton of error messages when trying to do complex overlapping geometry and complex CAM. It does however provide a wide range of functionality if used properly. I agree the subscription is costly. Definitely try the demo's.
😳The security of a users ideas which if i am not mistaken is stored in the cloud for Fusion 360 files is a nerve wracking worrisome thing. With all the hacking and intellectual property theft going on it would be quite depressing and infuriating to create something and later on stumble upon an exact duplicate of your idea somewhere else.
How do they know you are selling stuff?
They know all. They see all. They are everywhere! 🕵
@@HighlineGuitars LOL
The toughest job I've done with Fusion so far was modeling a Les Paul style carved top. Took me forever and it was stressful. Even when I finally got the shape I wanted, it had these seams in it that I didn't put there and couldn't figure out how to remove. Total pain in the ass. But I've never used any other CAD software, so I have no idea how much harder or easier it could be.
if i could ask for some tips as I'm modeling one myself.
what tool did you use to model the top?
and did you try it out and eyeball it or did you have measurements you based it off?
@@tuomas2789 it was a couple years ago, so my memory of it is vague, but the method I ended up using was based off of something I found here on youtube of a guy making a violin in fusion with the mesh tool. I had the measurements from some plans. Other than that, I can't remember how I got the shape to follow the sketch. I think you can align the mesh to the sketch, but it has a mind of it's own and I about went insane trying to make it work.
@@applebutter4036 im beyond insane already, but I think I can get it to work with some lofts. I have plans for hand router templates so i can make the lofts fill the gaps smoothly. I'm going to check if I can find the violin video and if it would come out better with the mesh. Thanks a lot for the info.
TO pay for software that crashes nonstop is NON-SENSICLE. I have lost 12 hours in the last two days waiting for SLOW SERVERS. The spinning wheel of death.
I use Fusion 360 almost daily and it accounts for about 95% of the programming done in my shop.
It's a very powerful program but a lot of how it does what it does is counterintuitive. I use several different programs for other machines around the shop (vinyl cutting, laser engraving, sign making, embroidery), almost all of which are easier to use and generate results quicker.
I also don't like that Fusion 360 is subscription only and the options for purchase are kinda unreasonable. I mean, they're decent if you're a full scale fabrication shop but the small entrepreneur setup is 50/50 and they're VERY aggressive with selling you if you're on the start-up or hobbyist programs.
All in all its a good program, serves a necessary purpose but could be better. It's healthy for people to have alternatives.
I'm your 46 subscriber!
You say you only use Fusion every few weeks but reuse the G code daily. I would think of this as using Fusion daily. I am aware that the G code is completely independent from its creator, Fusion, in a computation sense.
I never use Fusion 360.
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@@dontwatchthat8933 I misspoke. I use MeshCAM not Fusion 360.
$495 if you pay yearly.
why doesn't anyone just use freecad?
I have it, but don't use it. I tried, but go too frustrated with it.
@@HighlineGuitars That's fair. Have you tried it recently? What are some frustrations with it?
@@lanepemberton8886 The UI isn't very intuitive. I know that with programs like this, there is a learning curve. However, I want to be able to jump in right away and get started. I can't do that with this one. I'll have to follow some tutorials just to get going. Unfortunately, I don't have time for that right now. Check out MoI moi3d.com/. It's not free, but it is low-cost and offers a perpetual license. I was able to build a 3D model right from the start without having to read a manual or watch tutorials.
@@HighlineGuitars You're right, the UI generally isn't super intuitive with open source software. Thanks, I will!
And yet to be fair, Rhinocerous 3D is only good for 90 days, then you have to purchase it...and it costs $995.
To be fair, the best price for F360 is $500 a year. In two years you’ll spend more than $995. And every year after you’ll spend another $500.
yes cad software is way overpriced even for a large company and you cant justify the cost unless you had someone using it 8 hours a day. we was just looking at solidworks and almost did pull the trigger and literally a day before we bought it we got a email they are raising the price this was just last week 3 19 22. well long story short we wont be getting it.
I've been using Fusion 360 for the past few days. Honestly, is pretty bad. It's convoluted. The constraining of 2D sketches works well, if you're drawing squares and circles. But as soon as the shape gets complicated, you're on your own. And you have to resolve a bunch of crap and the program does nothing to help you. It just keeps denying you until you guess what random element is at issue. It is genuinely the worst CAD program I've ever used bar none. I gave it a chance. But it's crap. It looks like all the work I put into my guitar project is going to have to be restarted. Oh and it took more than ten minutes to export an OBJ and in the end, after I saw three status bar had been full for a few minutes, I actually quit waiting on it as I had to turn off my computer, so I have no OBJ to show for my troubles. Waste of time. Disappointing program.
I call it Confusion 360.
I missed the days when Fusion 360 ran smoother, now it's just bloated and slow.
I tried Fusion 360 when it was introduced. Initially I thought it was a great program, but it just got too big for me.
BIG Warning to anyone trying Fusion 360. Don't make the mistake like I did, design your entire part, then find out that the free trial version, doesn't allow tool changes. Nope, they ditched that and I'll be damned if I'm going to spend tons of money just to get automatic tool changes. Wish I knew this first, but nope.. I didn't read the small print. I saw the limitations on it, 10 projects, yadda yadda.. nope.. I wasted 2 weeks. If I was making money at it, sure, zero issues. But, I figured at least they'd let you use tool changers on it. The hobbiest version is completely dumbed down. Moving to another program now and rapid learning to make up for the wasted time that Fusion 360 drained out of my life. LAME!
What is " tool changers" ?
@@jamescole3152 What? Go read what I typed.
Go back and read it... Just because your brain read one thing, doesn't mean I typed it.
Because you don't know how to? I recommend this program to everyone
Too expensive for what you get.
@@HighlineGuitars I personally use student version for free
@@a_makarov Are you a student?
@@HighlineGuitars yes but I understand that it’s not about the point of video anyways
Too many ads
Don’t tell me, tell CZcams.
who cares
18K apparently. That may not seem like a lot after one year, but it keeps growing. And if you don't care, that's understandable. But why would you comment?
*_pssst, piracy!_*
Hey Autodesk... this guy^^^
I use rhinocam. Works great for me.
I'm on a Mac, so I can't use Rhinocam.