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  • @THEbeautifuLIE
    @THEbeautifuLIE Před 10 měsíci +157

    Both Cap & Tony were *_RIGHT,_* but for the *_WRONG_* reasons.
    Tony was right to feel that they should accept more responsibility & even answer for some of the deaths they may have inadvertently caused while saving others. The *_WRONG_* reason was when he was “triggered” to go that route by losing Pepper & Charlie Spencer’s mother’s guilt trip. That simply CAN NOT EVER cause you to reevaluate saving the planet - your girl being mad at you or an individual being extremely sad b/c of a single loss (tho the single loss was important to them).
    Cap was right to feel that they should not surrender to government agencies with agendas. They (the UN) could fake a terrorist attack from a middle Eastern country and now, the Avengers are helping the U.S. steal oil from innocent people for the next century (or something like that). The *_WRONG_* reason was when Cap was #TeamSaveBuckyAtAllCosts Cap was just not going to allow Bucky to face consequences. He put every single other Avenger in sincere jeopardy (including his legitimate “friends” in Tony, Falcon & Widow). It’s fine if Bucky’s your CLOSEST, but he was in position to potentially let some of his friends DIE to save Bucky. . .& when we found out he actually knew of Tony’s parent’s fate - that sealed it.
    Again: both had quality foundations & cared deeply for others while taking their stance(s). . .& both compromised to a negative extent while making their position(s) known. #Top3MCUmovie #EpicCasting #LOVEtheCHANNEL

  • @silentassason
    @silentassason Před 10 měsíci +48

    "Two old men beat up an orphan with a heart condition" is my favorite technically correct description of this movie 😂

    • @insertnamehere2746
      @insertnamehere2746 Před 9 měsíci +19

      "A rich asshole picks a fight with two world war 2 veterans and pays the price"

    • @c0zyD
      @c0zyD Před 4 měsíci

      @@insertnamehere2746nope

    • @sorenhansen3288
      @sorenhansen3288 Před měsícem

      @@insertnamehere2746 I like that one better 😂

  • @js7733
    @js7733 Před 10 měsíci +237

    Fun fact, the job the Russo brothers did with the winter soldier and civil war got them the job to do infinity war and endgame which is the 2 best .

    • @TheOctobersReact
      @TheOctobersReact  Před 10 měsíci +31

      wow cannot wait to see them again!

    • @asiaroberson1750
      @asiaroberson1750 Před 10 měsíci +6

      ​@@TheOctobersReactbring your tissue 😢when you see that one soon

    • @js7733
      @js7733 Před 10 měsíci +6

      @@TheOctobersReact before infinity war and endgame you should make predictions on what you think will happen and/or who might not make it. At the end you can see how right or wrong you were

    • @tomclark5924
      @tomclark5924 Před 10 měsíci +7

      And now you know why Hulk and Thor weren’t in the film. Wouldn’t have been much of a fight with those two in it.

    • @js7733
      @js7733 Před 10 měsíci +5

      @@tomclark5924 depends on what team they side with plus I’ll take the scarlet witch as my number 1 draft any day of the week unless maybe endgame cap

  • @toddsmitts
    @toddsmitts Před 10 měsíci +128

    Fun fact: Wanda didn't "push" Vision through the floor. She used her powers to change his mass and make him so heavy that the floor collapsed underneath him.
    Also, I don't know if you recognize General Ross (now Secretary Ross) from "The Incredible Hulk". He was played by William Hurt, who also passed away not too long ago.

    • @asiaroberson1750
      @asiaroberson1750 Před 10 měsíci +11

      Williams hurts a good actor

    • @edit_bee
      @edit_bee Před 10 měsíci +14

      She did push him after he fell off the few floors you can see her magic

    • @salvadortinajero
      @salvadortinajero Před 10 měsíci +7

      Also general Ross is being recasted, Harrison Ford is gonna play him

    • @MoMoMyPup10
      @MoMoMyPup10 Před 10 měsíci +7

      She mentioned that Ross was the 'almost father-in-law' to Hulk, so yeah, they got that, which many do not.

    • @neospock5034
      @neospock5034 Před 10 měsíci +6

      @@edit_bee she didn't just "push" him through the floor, she took control of the mindstone in his head (we saw it glowing in response to her power) and increased his density/mass, so the floor couldn't support him. But yes she was also pushing him down with telekinesis.

  • @kcincy
    @kcincy Před 10 měsíci +57

    Would I trust the UN if I was a hero? No way. Would I trust the heroes if I was a regular person or a government authority in their world? Absolutely not, especially with Hulk, Wanda and Bucky on their team. A ton of people died by their hands with no real accountability. In any case, great reaction - enjoy the rest of the films!!

    • @marciasilva549
      @marciasilva549 Před 10 měsíci +4

      This is probably the most sensible take in this entire comment section.

    • @pbourlart
      @pbourlart Před 10 měsíci +7

      Don't forget that it's the government who decided to launch a nuke on Manhattan in Avengers. Without the "loose" heroes, and Iron Man redirecting that nuke, more than 1 son would have died, also without real accountability.

    • @insertnamehere2746
      @insertnamehere2746 Před 9 měsíci +6

      And dont forget it was Iron man who made Ultron, not Thor and Steve

    • @edwardarroyo884
      @edwardarroyo884 Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@insertnamehere2746True, but he wouldn't have made him if Wanda didn't put that vision in his head.

    • @inzaghiscornsalad7034
      @inzaghiscornsalad7034 Před 8 měsíci +5

      @@edwardarroyo884 And wanda wouldn't have hated stark so much if he didn't destroy her family and home. It's like a circle, the blame just shifts. But yes, wanda's morals are still very questionable, and it's just outright wrong if you've watched wandavision

  • @gippywhite
    @gippywhite Před 10 měsíci +37

    A very cool thing about this movie is that the other winter soldiers were all played by the stunt doubles to the other actors. The big white dude that got most of the screen time was Chris Evans’ stunt double, the one woman (Heidi Moneymaker, which is the only name I can remember) was Scarlett Johansson’s stunt double, the black guy was one of the two guys who played both Falcon and Black Panther’s stunt double, and so on and so forth. It was cool because they actually played their own characters for the first time without being someone else’s stunt double. And Sebastian Stan, the guy who played Bucky, threw an after party just for the stunt team when the filming was over. They really all really appreciated that, and even posted pictures from that party on their Instagram pages!
    Now… About this storyline though… keep in mind that the first mind controlled person we saw in the release order of the MCU was Clint. Loki took control of his mind with the scepter. In age of Ultron, everybody had their minds controlled by Wanda, except for Clint. Clint was the one who stopped her with the electrified arrow to her forehead while saying, “I tried the whole mind control thing, I didn’t like it.“ So the fact that absolutely everybody was instantly forgiven for any and all atrocities they may have committed while under mind control, but Bucky was not, it really makes you think. Especially since they were under my control for hours or days while he was under my control for a minimum of 50 years. As for the Sokovia accords themselves, I truly hate secretary Ross. If you notice during his little pitch meeting of the accords to the team, he’s showing the video evidence of the four different places in which they were fighting. If you notice to the right hand side of the screen that showing the video, it shows the casualty count. In New York there was 74 people who died. In DC there was 23. In Sokovia there was 177. And in Lagos there was 26. Which means the governments of 117 countries in the world wanted to basically enslave the Avengers because of 300 deaths. Keep in mind in New York, the world council that Nick Fury was talking to, unanimously voted to nuke New York!!! That would’ve been about 8 million people that would’ve died not including the fall out area. In DC, those three Hellacarriers, which were “under SHIELD’s control”, but was actually under that same world council’s control for Project Insight which was run by hydra, they were about to wipe out at LEAST 715,000 people and counting in just their first day of launch. And in Sokovia, the whole city was going to be used as an extinction level “meteorite”. So that would’ve wiped out the whole planet. And finally, for Lagos, I’m pretty sure there were more than 26 people in that market place that we’re about to be taken out by Rumlow’s suicide bomb, not to mention the bio weapon that he was there to steal. So the Avengers has already saved the world once over and has saved millions of people a few times. HOWEVER, six of the 13 movies you’ve seen so far have had villains because of Tony Stark/Stark Industries. And this is not the end of the villains that Tony created. It’s always the ones that feel the most guilty who want to restrict others. I am 100% team Cap. And he was protecting Bucky not totally because he’s Steve’s best friend and the only person he has left from the past, but I am absolutely positive he would do the same for anyone else in Bucky’s position. Bucky was an innocent, good man, who was tortured and experimented on for 20 years before they broke his mind enough to wipe it, and control him completely for his 50 year reign as the Winter Soldier. All the while being put back “on ice“ and having his mind wiped again with that horrible device that went on his head between each mission.
    And to be honest, I am fairly certain that Black Widow knew about Bucky killing Stark’s parents. If you remember, at the end of Captain America: the Winter soldier, when Nat was handing Steve Bucky’s file, she said “You may not want to pull on that thread.” They learned from Zola’s computerized consciousness that Hydra shaped world events and killed people along the way. He showed a picture of Tony’s dad with a line through him to show that they killed Howard Stark. And I THINK the file that Nat handed Steve confirmed many of Bucky’s missions and their outcomes. I think Nat saying that was her warning that it was going to get really personal. So I really think she knew, too.
    It’s a tossup for me when it comes to which of the MCU movies I think is the best. It’s either the Winter soldier or Civil War. It depends on how I feel at the moment! 😅 But Bucky is still my number one favorite character. He is going to have an amazing character arc both in the movies and tv shows, but much more so in the tv shows, that I hope you guys get to watch, too. BUT if you do watch, the TV shows, I highly recommend getting the X-Men movies under your belts first. If you haven’t already, that is. X-Men before WandaVision tv show, and before the second Doctor Strange movie. 👍🏻😉👍🏻 ❄️🫡🦾🇺🇸#️⃣☝🏻💙💙💙

    • @mannygee005
      @mannygee005 Před 10 měsíci +1

      whoah... nice details. And watch WHAT IF... before the Doctor Strange Madness movie... and watch Into The Spider-verse before Spider-man No Way Home.

    • @cjcf1203
      @cjcf1203 Před 10 měsíci +7

      👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 Excellent analysis of why Team Cap is the right side. The government’s case makes no sense. And most of those 300 casualties were not killed by the avengers. They were killed by aliens, they were killed by hydra while they were trying to launch weapons to kill millions more, and they were killed by a suicide bomber. Wanda throwing the blast in the air only changed who was killed, not that people were killed. And as you said, more people would have died if the bomb stayed on the ground because the market was more crowded. The only deaths “on” the avengers is those caused by Ultron; and those are really on Tony and Banner, not the avengers as a whole. Excellent analysis of his guilt, btw. I never put it together until your comment, but Tony/Stark has made a lot of villains! He is their origin story. My two points of difference is that (1) I don’t think Steve knew it was Bucky that killed Tony’s parents. I think he knew it was hydra, but hydra had many assassins. He knew it could have been Bucky, but he didn’t know it for sure. I recall one of the Russo brothers expressing that this was their view and how they directed it. (2) I think Steve stopped Tony from killing Bucky not only for the reasons that you mentioned, but also because he want to stop Tony (also his friend) from becoming a cold-blooded murderer.

  • @39Hundred
    @39Hundred Před 10 měsíci +67

    I love Steve Roger’s character arc. In the first Captain America and Avengers films, he did whatever the government told him. No questions asked. He was a loyal soldier. Because of Hydra infiltrating SHIELD, he now realizes that governments can be corrupt and have agendas.

    • @MoMoMyPup10
      @MoMoMyPup10 Před 10 měsíci +12

      Hydra also infiltrated the US government, and that's only what we've been shown. How old would Steve be in actual upright years on earth? Maybe early 20's here? He's still learning how to navigate the world and to think as an adult.

    • @39Hundred
      @39Hundred Před 10 měsíci

      @@MoMoMyPup10 Very true.

    • @PhilBagels
      @PhilBagels Před 10 měsíci +13

      That's not true. In the first Captain America, he violated orders to go rescue the 107th.

    • @TheOctobersReact
      @TheOctobersReact  Před 10 měsíci +7

      makes sense for sure

    • @MrKingYuji
      @MrKingYuji Před 9 měsíci +4

      @@MoMoMyPup10in this film he is around 31 if my math is right. He was roughly 27 in Avengers 1

  • @ghostmkc4045
    @ghostmkc4045 Před 10 měsíci +20

    Bout time!!! One of the best movies of the MCU so far. Looking forward to the watch.

  • @TheOctobersReact
    @TheOctobersReact  Před 10 měsíci +64

    Thanks for the patience friends, we are about tired of our power being knocked out by storms, but on the postive note we are basically untouched! This was basically an Avengers movie which was AMAZING! Thanks for always telling us about this one (literally since the start) bc it delivered!
    If you want more OCTOBERS.... www.patreon.com/theoctobers

    • @jxy8938
      @jxy8938 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Someone can correct whether i was right or wrong but when the spiderman movies away from the mcu was being made, marvel tried to get a little cameo of stark tower in the amazing spiderman 2 (2014) just as a little link to the mcu but sony didnt agree. And civil war almost didnt have spiderman in it aswell. He wasnt in the trailer shots that he appeared in the movie because the agreements got finalised in the last few months before the release

    • @asiaroberson1750
      @asiaroberson1750 Před 10 měsíci +4

      You should watch the Tobey maguire and Andrew Garfield Spiderman real soon

    • @tomhoffman4330
      @tomhoffman4330 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@jxy8938 That's Correct, but the movie in question was actually the first "Amazing Spider-Man," which was also released in 2012...the same year as the first "Avengers" Movie.

    • @Etereys
      @Etereys Před 10 měsíci +3

      Hey you two! If you live near Atlanta, then you live near me! 🎉😅

    • @DevastatorJr
      @DevastatorJr Před 10 měsíci +2

      We got another storm coming this weekend, charge your phones😭!

  • @MK-lb3oc
    @MK-lb3oc Před 10 měsíci +64

    Yes, Chadwick passed away from colon cancer. At an unusually young age too. Pretty sure he actually had it the whole time while he was in the Marvel movies, and he kept it a secret, which makes it even more amazing how he was able to film, tour, etc while having cancer. Fans started to notice something was wrong though the last time he was seen in public, because he was unusually thin, but most people just assumed he had lost weight for a new movie role. It was a huge shock when news came of him dying.

    • @teenflashgaming-yc6ul
      @teenflashgaming-yc6ul Před 10 měsíci +10

      Rest in peace. He definitely was a humble warrior on both sides of the filming industry

    • @erfanMASTER69
      @erfanMASTER69 Před 10 měsíci +13

      He will never be forgotten by marvel fans

    • @kaprinos
      @kaprinos Před 10 měsíci +11

      @@erfanMASTER69 never! i tear up every time he makes his 1st appearance in these movies.

    • @JuanitoEsBonito
      @JuanitoEsBonito Před 10 měsíci +3

      They incorporated that into Wakanda forever too. With the way Shuri mentions how he "suffered in silence".

    • @terrylandess6072
      @terrylandess6072 Před 10 měsíci +2

      You can always catch him in The Gods of Egypt where his acting gets to shine with a totally different character and style.

  • @robertrouse4503
    @robertrouse4503 Před 10 měsíci +13

    Consider this. During WWII, Steve was all in for the Government, but he came back and after the events of Captain American and the Winter Soldier he learned things can be corrupted, thus his distrust of the Stokavian Accords. It was a logical shift.

  • @dezzydee3013
    @dezzydee3013 Před 10 měsíci +44

    I'm glad you all are doing okay. What cap knew about Tony's parents is he knew from being told by the AI scientist on winter soldier that Tony Stark's family had been eliminated by Hydra. He did not know that Bucky was the one to kill them, that's why he said" I didn't know it was him". People often mistaken this for thinking that Steve knew that bucket killed Tony Stark parents

    • @carlmccartney1025
      @carlmccartney1025 Před 10 měsíci +15

      But he knew the winter soldier was the one that did it, and he learned who that was and still didn't say anything, so he did know

    • @mechmorph
      @mechmorph Před 9 měsíci +3

      @@carlmccartney1025 Cap found out Tony's parents were murdered when he was confronted by the Zola AI, which was yammering about how Hydra changed the world and flashed an image of a headline announcing the Starks' deaths. He had no logical way of knowing Bucky was the assassin, even after Cap learned Bucky was the legendary Winter Soldier. The killer could have been someone like Rumlow, for all he knew. Until that reveal, Tony and everyone else "knew" the Starks were killed in a car crash, nothing more. Cap probably thought why reopen old wounds for Tony and burden him with the knowledge that his parents were murdered?

    • @Isaac-lt3nn
      @Isaac-lt3nn Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@carlmccartney1025Tony didn't even open up to Steve about it in the first place

  • @passionsquietrage
    @passionsquietrage Před 10 měsíci +6

    Spidey was excited to just be there, he was having the best time! Both sides were right, at least to an extent. I love how at the end of it, Steve was like "We may not be on good terms at the moment, but I still got your back if you need it." That showed that while there's some issues between them that will likely always be there, they're still friends and they respect each other. Hulk and Thor weren't in this one because Thor isn't human and Hulk is off the grid. Chadwick filmed this, Black Panther, Avengers Infinity War and Avengers Endgame(as well as a couple of other great movies like "42: The Jackie Robinson Story") all while battling colon cancer. He was a talented actor and family man gone too soon, RIP Chadwick Boseman.

    • @TheOctobersReact
      @TheOctobersReact  Před 10 měsíci +1

      wow that is so sad thanks for telling us that and thanks for watching

  • @abnergenece4307
    @abnergenece4307 Před 10 měsíci +19

    Great reaction! The way the Russo brothers juggled and honored all these different characters was masterful! You're going to love Dr. Strange and Black Panther! Enjoy the ride, y'all!

    • @asiaroberson1750
      @asiaroberson1750 Před 10 měsíci +2

      You left out guardians of the galaxy volume 2, Spiderman homecoming, and thor ragnarok in between

    • @terrylandess6072
      @terrylandess6072 Před 10 měsíci

      Yes the Russo's managed to give Capt. America one more minute of screen time than Ironman.... :)

  • @ChuckJansenII
    @ChuckJansenII Před 10 měsíci +18

    Team Cap.
    You had Zemo pegged. Nice. Daniel Brühl did a great job as Zemo. His "Did it" reply to Bilbo Baggins asking how it felt to have his plan fail gives me chills. Essentially, Zemo's plan worked. He may have been captured, but he won. Avengers came apart from within.
    Zemo murdered co-director Joe Russo. He was the Doctor in the tub. He was credited as Gozie Agbo.
    So cool to have Black Panther and Spooder-Man introduced in this movie.
    Binarily Augmented Retro-Framing (B.A.R.F.) is easily replaced by Neurologically Augmented Retro-Framing (N.A.R.F.). Guess where I got that idea? NARF!
    Problem solved, Tony.

    • @ricardoortiz4870
      @ricardoortiz4870 Před 10 měsíci

      They haven’t gotten to the Hobbit reaction yet. I believe he’s Everett Ross played by Martin Freeman.

    • @ChuckJansenII
      @ChuckJansenII Před 10 měsíci

      @@ricardoortiz4870 Yes.

    • @makotepmayor5283
      @makotepmayor5283 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Agreed! He is the best villain in these mcu thing for me.

  • @motodork
    @motodork Před 10 měsíci +20

    Captain America is ALWAYS on the side of what’s right and true.

    • @PhilBagels
      @PhilBagels Před 10 měsíci +5

      And General/Secretary Ross is ALWAYS on the side of what's wrong and stupid. Ross is the longest-running villain in the MCU.

    • @TheOctobersReact
      @TheOctobersReact  Před 10 měsíci +3

      Damn right!

    • @beatrixcooper8290
      @beatrixcooper8290 Před 10 měsíci +3

      HE THINKS HE IS

    • @Liz33991
      @Liz33991 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Cap is always on the side of what He thinks is right and true. He’s very black and white. No gray area for him.

    • @PhilBagels
      @PhilBagels Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@Liz33991 No gray areas have been presented to him.

  • @JH-jw7pu
    @JH-jw7pu Před 10 měsíci +11

    Zemo’s plan was to separate the Avengers, and he definitely succeeded. One of the most successful villains in the MCU imo

    • @terrylandess6072
      @terrylandess6072 Před 10 měsíci

      He was so lucky when Bucky was given instructions to get the serum and leave NO WITNESSES, there just happed to be a camera - right there - along that long open stretch of road. Seriously? When you watch these enough it's hard not to look behind the curtain . . . . .

    • @scottb3034
      @scottb3034 Před 9 měsíci

      too bad they took the mentality of a separate cap villain and added it to Zemo instead.

    • @Shap0o.PlayZz
      @Shap0o.PlayZz Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@scottb3034which cap villain does this in the comics?

    • @scottb3034
      @scottb3034 Před 9 měsíci

      @@Shap0o.PlayZz A character named Johann Fennhoff/Dr Faustus, a character named after the literary character Dr Faustus and the German folklore Faust (the classic deal with the devil story).
      Anyway, Faustus is a genius intellect and psychologist adept at manipulating others and through deceptions (some like Zemo disguising himself as Barnes) gets people to do as he wishes. He had a storyline where he attempts to drive Cap mad by making him hallucinate in waking life and have nightmares at night. He also treated peggy and sharon at points because he infiltrated SHIELD as a psychologist. He was able to convince Sharon Carter to attempt to end her own life via his persuasive capabilities (he tries this on several that he's brainwashed) and brainwashed Captain America to do his bidding.
      In fact, Faustus is most infamous for brainwashing Sharon Carter into "killing" Steve Rogers in the climax of the CIVIL WAR COMIC. He later plays a major part in the trial of Bucky Barnes where he helps Cap, Falcon and Widow's defense strategy by demonstrating his abilities in the court to help exonerate Bucky for his crimes as the Winter Soldier because he was brainwashed. He is basically most well-known in the comics for the movie version Baron Zemo.
      Helmut Zemo in the movie is Johann Fennhoff. The reasons Zemo is used are the fact that Faustus was used in the Agent Carter tv show and Zemo is a bigger name...not the first time they did this however. Alexander pierce from the Winter Soldier is essentially a different character as well.

    • @Shap0o.PlayZz
      @Shap0o.PlayZz Před 9 měsíci

      @@scottb3034 Thank you for the detailed info. Alright understood.. if it's not a problem, tell me about Alexander Pierce as well.. I'd like to learn more..

  • @CaptainAmercia
    @CaptainAmercia Před 10 měsíci +11

    So don't worry you did not miss any Spider-Man films, Civil War was Peters Parkers and Spider-Mans introduction into the MCU. Sony own the movie rights to Spider-Man but Kevin Feige the President of Marvel Studios has tried for years to get Spider-Man in the MCU. Sony at the time were working on The Amazing Spider-Man films so they were very much doing there own thing. In 2015, Sony Pictures announced a partnership with Marvel Studios where the two studios would work together on a series of Spider-Man films, this being why you'll see the Sony logo and Columbia Pictures intros when watching the MCU Spider-Man films.
    Kevin Feige even got a team together to make sure this deal went through. There were versions of the Civil War script that did not feature Spider-Man with Antman being Team Iron Man instead of Captain America which would've changed his character and future going forward. But thankfully Spider-Man was added into the MCU and the rest is history.
    MCU Spider-Man:
    The MCU Spider-Man has only been active for a couple of months. At 15 Peter was bitten by a spider, within the MCU we aren't sure where but I imagine inside a lab owned by a Corporation doing tests on Spiders. This is all similar to the comics but the biggest difference is how the MCU Spider-Man is thrown into the deep end right away working with the Avengers and even getting his first "real" Spider-Man suit from Tony Stark. Peter designed the suit visually but it's built using Stark Tech so were seeing a very advanced Spider-Man in his first year as Spider-Man something Peter in the comics didn't reach until his late teens and early 20s. By the time of Civil War in the comics Peter was in his early 20s and showed up in a new Iron Spider suit protected by Tony.
    In the comics Peter basically starts out very low tech creating his web shooters but the suit itself is just Spandex and overtime with help from characters like Mister Fantastic of the F4 and even pulling ideas from his villains Peter upgrades his suit and gear. But at 15 the idea of Peter being this advanced in tech is pretty new and makes him stand out from the other Spider-Man films for better or for worse depending on how you prefer Spider-Man.
    I personally would've preferred a few solo Spider-Man films first going through High School with a low tech Spider-Man working by himself and then when Peter is in college 18 to 21 he is then introduced to the Avengers and we see him taking part in Civil War. But overall I'm just glad we have Spider-Man interacting with other Marvel hero's something we've never got to see in live action. Tom Holland himself is great as Spider-Man and actually looks like a 15 year old, Toby for example who played Spider-Man in the 2000s very much looked like a college student, same with the other students.
    Civil War:
    The Civil War event is pulled from the comics put very much a much smaller scale event focused more so on The Avengers than all Superhero's. The comics of course had far more hero's from Avengers, X-Men, Fantastic Four, etc. The Superhero Registration Act comes into play where hero's who sign have to give up there secret identity and work on behalf of the government. Iron Man is for this while Captain America is against. In the MCU we have the Sokovia Accords solely aimed at The Avengers.

  • @dylancole1910
    @dylancole1910 Před 10 měsíci +6

    The Airport Battle will forever be Iconic. We all knew going on that this movie was going to split them up, that there was going to be tension, but it was such an amazing experience to see how it all played out.
    This is honestly one of those movies where you can see both sides of an issue. Steve had a point because they’d just dealt with the breach of Hydra and he didn’t trust authority as much as he used to, he’s set on doing what he thinks is right, even if it’s not the right thing overall. Also, this is directly involving his best friend, he kind of ignores the fact that even though Bucky was under the control of Hydra’s brain washing, he DID kill many people, many who didn’t deserve to die. He is human until the conditioning kicks in, then he becomes nothing more than a cocked gun ready to shoot. Steve was way too close, emotionally to this situation to react rationally, but of course it’s easy to understand why he’d push back and fight for him. He knew that if they could figure out how to get free him from the brainwashing they’d see he wasn’t a monster. Steve has always kind of operated on his own Justice code. He is CAPTAIN AMERICA sure, but he’d turn on his country’s government just like that if he didn’t believe in something, which is exactly what happened. You can’t always trust that the government knows what’s best for the country, especially when they are scared of what people like Wanda can do. I like what Steve said “In the end the safest hands are still our own.” There’s not many people in this universe that are known and on the governments radar that are really capable of fighting these enemies and it makes deciding whether they should operate with or without government supervision a really difficult dilemma.
    I also think that Tony was right to an extent as well. I mean, while it’s true that the damaged caused by trying to keep people safe is unavoidable, they are a team that seems to have sort of evaded the law. Like Ross said, crossing borders illegally, causing property damage and putting people in danger ( even while intentionally trying to protect) without much consequence, it’s going to ruffle some feathers. They seem to be the only ones with that advantage. They also have a right to be nervous about the inability to track down the Hulk and Thor, as both have their own level of unpredictability and danger to people. Especially the Hulk. Last everyone saw him he was rampaging. No one knew he was being corrupted by Wanda, then, he just disappeared and no one knows where he went. Big safety risk right there. Tony also has the guilt thing going on, Sokovia was entirely his fault, being faced with some of those consequences, of course it makes sense.
    My personal opinion tends to lean more toward Tony, even though he made some mistakes I feel that the concept of basic regulation is not that bad of an idea when it comes to worlds with superhero teams like this. Though I do have to say, it’s impossible to say that I 100 percent agree with Tony or Steve, because either way, you have issues. It’s something I’d have to experience to truly know my stance. It would depend on who I am, what I can do, who I know, and what I’ve been involved with in the past.
    I think you guys are going to love the mcu Spider-man. Tom Holland is a brilliant actor, I think he was 17 or 18 here. Compared to the other two franchises this adaptation of his really chose to take on a more youthful approach to the character and it has really made the character memorable.
    As always, I look forward to your next reaction. 😄

  • @boombum0747
    @boombum0747 Před 10 měsíci +8

    I feel so bad for Wanda, she looked so broken in the raft.

  • @Dhaem16
    @Dhaem16 Před 10 měsíci +9

    One thing I love is how Zemos's plan actually has nothing to do with the Accords or the conflict they bring. The only thing he needed was that mission report, that video. Using Bucky as a scapegoat? The Accords? The Avengers already at odds with themselves? Cap and Stark arrival at Siberia? All happy accidents, the cherry on top for him. Even if that encounter in Siberia didn't happen Zemo would only need to release that video in some way and the damage would've been done.
    But yeah, we start Phase 3 with the Avengers broken, half of them fugitives of international justice... Earth defenses as a whole are weaker than ever.
    And Thanos is coming.
    PD: Phase 2 is, at least for me, about introducing the infinity stones and showing the Avengers at their prime before the "fall" in this movie.

  • @CosmicKingGeorge
    @CosmicKingGeorge Před 10 měsíci +7

    I'm glad you guys are back.
    This movie is so complex.
    Looking forward to the next reaction, you guys are great!
    🙂

  • @BiggestDawgEver
    @BiggestDawgEver Před 10 měsíci +19

    Great reaction as always guys. You two are so dialed in, and it is fun to watch with you. This is one of my favorites, but it is complicated. I was all Cap all the way, but it is easy to see both sides.
    What I find interesting is that Tony started off being the one who rebelled against authority while Steve was a product of an institution. When we get to this movie, their perspectives have reversed.
    Many have nicknamed this one Avengers 2.5. If there is a theme in this phase, I guess it would be about rising stakes and unforseen consequences. Some have compared it to an arc in the comics called Avengers: Disassembled.

    • @terrylandess6072
      @terrylandess6072 Před 10 měsíci

      It's interesting how close to the 'mutant problem' this storyline concerning the accords is. You know what Magneto would say :)

  • @mylesp89
    @mylesp89 Před 10 měsíci +2

    1:30: “Kool Aid packets”😂😂😂😂. I laughed way too hard at that. Like Imagine that being the secret serum lolol.

  • @nixolochenkov9830
    @nixolochenkov9830 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Even in real Life, A man who lost everything is a dangerous villain... I feel the pain of zemo..

  • @joeffcatapang2494
    @joeffcatapang2494 Před 10 měsíci +7

    one of the best MCU films to date..
    the complexity, the balance between all the characters, the struggles, the point of views, the plot twists..i think what makes the movie great is that you understand each side, that atleast for a moment, you doubt which side you're on..Tony came from shitting the govt in Iron Man 1&2, and experiencing the consequences of it in Avengers, Iron Man 3 and Age of Ultron, thats why he acted the way he did here..Cap was a boyscout in the 1st Cap movie and the Avengers..all about following orders, but experiencing Winter Soldier and Age of Ultron made him think that he cant really trust a governing body..both flipped because of their ideals and experiences..
    Phase 2 deals with the aftermath of Avengers and the introduction of the Infinity Stones..
    Fun Fact: one of the directors, Joe Russo, played the dead psychiatrist..
    Tom Holland is the 3rd actor to play spiderman..remember, the Spiderman franchise and all related characters is owned by Sony, thats why Toby's and Andrew Garfield's spiderman films are a separate franchises from the mcu..Tobey's spiderman came and end just before the MCU, then Andrew's was Sony's answer to the MCU but didnt went well so Sony made a deal with Disney to share spiderman to the MCU..thats why we have a new spiderman, and he can now join the mcu..
    RIP chadwick..

  • @eumesmo2733
    @eumesmo2733 Před 10 měsíci +5

    I can't wait for you to see Vision's entire development in the MCU, despite him being very undervalued he remains a great character, the one who is there to show you the humanity that can exist is a synthezoid!

  • @xAVErRvISCARRa
    @xAVErRvISCARRa Před 10 měsíci +13

    Zemo is the first tragic villain in the MCU, he not tried to conquer the world like Loki or Ultron or whatever. He lost his entire family in Sokovia and the Avenger just leave. Zemo is the representation of the colateral damage that superheroes could make to the world.
    Thats why TChalla didnt kill him, because at the end even he could understand why Zemo was trying to destroy the Avengers and realize that he was walking the same path of revenge and destruction

  • @DT-hp8de
    @DT-hp8de Před 10 měsíci +4

    This is definitely in my top 5 favorite MCU movies!! I'm really enjoying watching your journey's through the MCU.

  • @Shap0o.PlayZz
    @Shap0o.PlayZz Před 9 měsíci +2

    26:41 Yeah he is new, but thats freaking Jarvis running around in a Cape, more or less 😂😂.. ofc he would know a lot.

  • @dennytaylor1005
    @dennytaylor1005 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Great reaction. For me, this movie was the point where the MCU just took off like crazy. Every movie after this just kept getting better and better.
    In this one, you see how both Tony Stark and Steve Rodgers change. In the past, Tony was brash and took all kinds of crazy chances. Steve on the other hand, was a consummate soldier, always following orders. In this movie we see how they have both gone to the other end of the spectrum. In fact with Tony, you see it at the beginning of the movie - he's talking to some college students and he's reading off a teleprompter. He would have never done that before. Steve, in contrast, now becomes a "criminal."
    Great movie. Definitely one of favorite MCU movies.

    • @TheOctobersReact
      @TheOctobersReact  Před 10 měsíci +3

      yeah in a small way they switched roles! kinda crazy. thanks for watching 😊

  • @Ultimaniacx4
    @Ultimaniacx4 Před 8 měsíci +2

    53:51 That's the second time he refers to Tony as Cap lol

  • @Shap0o.PlayZz
    @Shap0o.PlayZz Před 9 měsíci +2

    55:20 That's how tragic Bucky's life is, he remembers all of his victims.. all of them screaming as he took their lives as the winter soldier. Imagine not wanting do any of this, and living with having done that. 😢😢😢

  • @animatorFan74
    @animatorFan74 Před 10 měsíci +11

    Hey hey Octobers,
    So glad you guys liked this movie... it's such a good addition to the MCU....so many cool things came out of this.
    Fun fact: At 36:00 where Tony asks Peter to move his leg, that was completely unscripted - Tom Holland actually forgot he was supposed to move over in the scene, so Robert Downey added that in to remind him.... very clever. I love it when they leave that stuff un. :)
    And where you're pointing out that Vision might be becoming more human, especially with Wanda, I think what's happening is, because Vision and Wanda are both linked through the Mind Stone (Wanda got her powers from the Mind Stone), that this is part of what links them together and it gives them extra connection with each other, so it helps Vision understand people better, through that connection. (This is my theory based on these movies PLUS future movies you guys will see later like Infinity War)
    Mrs October, I am absolutely loving your powers of perception here and the way you call out various plot points long before they happen. Like you said that Zemo is most likely framing Bucky for that explosion which kicked this off... that was spot on! Nice one! :)
    Also, I'm sitting on the fence and not picking one side 100%..... It was just good to see them fight each other and see them hash out this conflict.
    Zemo does come back again in The Falcon and Winter Soldier TV series on DisneyPlus.... really hope you're watching that series too! :)
    Anyway, hope you guys are good. Can't wait for next one :)

  • @johnmaynardable
    @johnmaynardable Před 8 měsíci +1

    I love how it seems like after every movie you say this is your favorite movie. That is the impact of the Marvel franchise. There is always something new around the corner. I am watching your MCU reactions in a long marathon. That's why I noticed your loving every film.

    • @TheOctobersReact
      @TheOctobersReact  Před 8 měsíci +1

      yeah you’re not wrong they one up each other constantly !!

  • @williambryan3346
    @williambryan3346 Před 4 měsíci +1

    @7:05 That’s actually what Robert Downey, Jr. looked like in 1991. The de-aging was pretty good in this one.

  • @Liz33991
    @Liz33991 Před 8 měsíci +1

    39:19 😂😂😂 “shoulder pads & a helmet” 😂😂😂

  • @jewelrana9910
    @jewelrana9910 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Captain america save both tony & bucky. One from being murdered & one from being murderer.

  • @bugvswindshield
    @bugvswindshield Před 4 měsíci

    as kid back in 1975 , 8 yo, Capt. America was by far my favorite. Him and the lone ranger ( basss reeves folks!)
    I even got an autograph from one of the artist . great movie!

  • @technofilejr3401
    @technofilejr3401 Před 10 měsíci +6

    10:34 In the comics, Wanda and Vision were a great couple for years. That said in the comics he was much more life like. Instead being made of Vibranium he was made of synthetic living tissue.

  • @jobinmcgooch
    @jobinmcgooch Před 10 měsíci +6

    This is one of the best to come out of the MCU and as messed up as things get, Team Cap 🤘🏽

  • @39Hundred
    @39Hundred Před 10 měsíci +3

    Easter Egg: The directors confirmed that back in Iron Man 2, the little boy at the Stark Expo that was wearing an Iron Man mask was a young Peter Parker/Spider-Man. 👍🏼
    Also, Rumlow’s comic book villain name is “Crossbones”.

  • @ivanzamarripa9393
    @ivanzamarripa9393 Před 10 měsíci +3

    "cause bucky was in romania looking at fruit" 😭😭😭😭😭

  • @hubaner
    @hubaner Před 10 měsíci +1

    i love your faces in the thumbail so funny😂😂😂

  • @nintenmetro
    @nintenmetro Před 10 měsíci +2

    Ross showed a lot of footage, but he overlooked Thor’s fight with Malekith in London, Hulk vs Hulkbuster in Johannesburg, and the Avengers vs Ultron and his sentries in Seoul.
    Steve and Tony swapped ideologies. After what happened with S.H.I.E.L.D. in the present, he knows better than to trust the powers in charge.
    As for Tony, he always did what he wanted and refused to listen when people tried to dissuade from going overboard. He’s late but he’s finally starting to take accountability and wants to able to continue as Iron Man.
    Vision delivered a good argument without being hypocritical. He literally knows his own strength. To ordinary people, he’s basically god-level like Thor.
    For Sam and Rhodey, they didn’t have much of a choice. Even if they did, they were still gonna side with their respective best friends - and not just because of their friendships with them. Rhodey, for instance, is still an active member of the American military whereas Sam has seen the things that Steve saw during the HYDRA uprising.
    The language T’Chaka spoke is Xhosa. It’s widely spoken in South Africa which is where his actor John Kani is from.
    Zemo’s actor Daniel Brühl grew up speaking German through his father. He also learned Spanish and Catalan from his mother. Daniel reprised his role as Zemo for the German dub.
    Sebastian Stan is good at speaking Romanian because he grew up in Constanța, and unless I’m mistaken he did his own motorbike stunt.
    The elite death squad included some of the actors’ stunt doubles at the time.
    In a deleted scene when Clint and Nat were fighting:
    Nat: Don’t you think Laura would be disappointed?
    Clint: Who, in me or you?
    In another deleted scene, Nat watches the fight in horror after recovering from Wanda’s attack. While evading War Machine, Cap loses his shield. Bucky grabs it and throws it to War Machine. It bounces off of him and Falcon throws it back to Cap.
    Cap: Nice save.
    Bucky: I gotta get me one of those.
    What’s most interesting about Zemo is that he messed with the Avengers without laying a finger with them. CinemaWins goes into further detail as to how and why his plan worked.
    In the Latin Spanish dub, when Tony grabs Bucky in the silo, the dialogue gets changed a bit but holds the same meaning:
    Tony: Do you at least remember my parents?
    Bucky: I carry them in my mind, too!
    I also think that Nat and Sam knew about it as well. Nat was with Steve when Zola showed them the article. She also dug up some info on Bucky which might have included some info about that night. And of course, Sam would help Steve look for him.
    “Tony Stank” is still my favorite Stan Lee cameo in terms of comedy. Also, you know it’s a cool scene when you put three legends in the same room.

  • @Boomer502CG
    @Boomer502CG Před 10 měsíci +5

    You gotta think, if Steve didn’t intervene, iron man would probably have killed Bucky. Also, black widow gave Steve buckys file at the end of winter soldier. He knew what happened from reading that file, but would it have solved anything to give that info to Tony? Like cap said, he wasn’t in control. It would only have sent tony into a rage trying to find and kill Bucky.

  • @SmashPortal
    @SmashPortal Před 3 měsíci +1

    I just want to point out that Ross's little presentation on why the Avengers are dangerous is absurd. The Avengers stopped an alien invasion, while the US government's plan was to... nuke New York City. That might not have even worked!
    The helicarriers were a SHIELD/Hydra issue, not an Avengers issue. If Cap hadn't intervened, a ton of people in the area were about to be assassinated all at once.
    While Ultron was, in fact an Avengers creation, it was a private project that wasn't meant to leave the building and was entirely incomplete. The Avengers stopped Ultron from wiping out humanity _and_ saved most of the people in the city.
    The only problematic one was Wanda accidentally causing more deaths than she stopped by hitting a building with the explosion. That one, I could see being a mission that the Avengers should've had permission for.

  • @deathninja16
    @deathninja16 Před 10 měsíci +2

    the older i get the more i understand secretary ross(to a degree) motives for the sokovia accords.

    • @ricardoortiz4870
      @ricardoortiz4870 Před 10 měsíci

      Secretary Ross? You mean the guy that wanted to hunt down Hulk and weaponize him?

  • @arthurdeniham7934
    @arthurdeniham7934 Před 9 měsíci +1

    You didn't realise the main thing, (IRON MAN 2) Tony Stark, the guy who began a nascisist, didn't care about others and would never let the govenment take his freedom, (CAPTAIN AMERICA 1) and Steve Rogers, the man who would let him serve as a experiment, and follow almost every higher order for him to be able to protect his country. Now they changed sides.

  • @Uatu-the-Watcher
    @Uatu-the-Watcher Před 10 měsíci +2

    “Okay, Russo Brothers with the action.”, she says before the airport scene.
    lol

  • @hkaayaakuu
    @hkaayaakuu Před 10 měsíci +2

    8:21 it wasn't clear if Gwyneth was returning as pepper

  • @Ghost8386
    @Ghost8386 Před 10 měsíci +2

    RIP Chadwick Boseman, Stan Lee, and William Hurt.

  • @nilehoruseus
    @nilehoruseus Před 20 dny

    I really like this Movie it’s very well written and the Final Fight was phenomenal

  • @hkaayaakuu
    @hkaayaakuu Před 10 měsíci +1

    22:51 The marvel daredevil netflix show was garnering praise for its action especially in the hallways. And this scene during this era felt a very specific answer to that praise.

  • @nathanlawson313
    @nathanlawson313 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Team Cap vs Team Stark is surprisingly close to 50/50.
    Team Cap is "take a stand, do what's right"
    Team Stark is "follow the rules, except when you don't"
    Both make sense. ...I'm with Cap.
    Btw, Zemo wasn't some random, poor sappy soul. He has "old money" as in, limitless wealth, billions, has a Title "Baron Zemo the 13th", and is a criminal underworld boss (on the level of Kingpin in NY). Not done with him. Stay tuned.

  • @king7299
    @king7299 Před 10 měsíci +1

    5:38 The guy being shown at this point also played Thanos using prosthetic makeup in the post credits scene of the first Avengers.

  • @davismccardle1
    @davismccardle1 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Tony was a victim of his own guilt - and he allowed himself to be manipulated by that woman in the corridor. He shouldn't have.

  • @inzaghiscornsalad7034
    @inzaghiscornsalad7034 Před 8 měsíci

    26:44 it IS that big old diamond in his head! Whatever vision 'feels' is because of that diamond. Well, not because of it, but it gave him the ability to feel, if simply put.

  • @justinjernigan1365
    @justinjernigan1365 Před 10 měsíci +2

    “I’m gonna sit here so you move the leg” was improvised by RDJ because Tom forgot to move his leg in the scene. 😂

  • @erictrautman2362
    @erictrautman2362 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Yoo, I grew up in McDonough, a lot of these movies were filmed just outside the city limits

  • @PatrickPrejusa
    @PatrickPrejusa Před 10 měsíci +7

    RIP CHADWICK

  • @Lemonhead85
    @Lemonhead85 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Let's goooo. The movie was great. Nice, I'm from Norcross GA. Team Cap!

  • @r3ijav
    @r3ijav Před 10 měsíci +2

    Love your content! best part of my aftenoon... thank you for being so genuine!

    • @TheOctobersReact
      @TheOctobersReact  Před 10 měsíci +1

      thank you so much for being kind! we appreciate you!

  • @c-mc
    @c-mc Před 10 měsíci +1

    10:40 do you guys remember Thunderbolt Ross from The Incredible Hulk a.k.a. Betty's dad, the general who was chasing Bruce , he's now the secretary of state here

  • @thantzyhanzter8422
    @thantzyhanzter8422 Před 10 měsíci

    Gosh finally! I’ve been waiting lol 😂 I just love you guys so much! ❤❤

  • @mannygee005
    @mannygee005 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Um... Iron Man broke the rules that he signed. He even said "Don't tell Ross or I'll have to arrest myself."
    In addition... I think Tony was trying to tell Steve that he would fix it so that they could continue to do what they wanted anyway despite having the accords. So because of that the straight up answer would be that Cap is right. Cap is kinda not compromising ... similar to advice from Peggy Carter.

  • @jermainehaslam5634
    @jermainehaslam5634 Před 10 měsíci +1

    This movie is a beast, great action scenes after action scenes and awesome reaction.

  • @alucardvekkia3966
    @alucardvekkia3966 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I really like how you guys react to every important line, so many reactors leave out the best parts, you guys rock!

  • @hkaayaakuu
    @hkaayaakuu Před 10 měsíci +2

    9:51 fun fact wakanda accent was going to be British. But the smart people or the activists saved that mistake from happening unlike the justice league decision

  • @technofilejr3401
    @technofilejr3401 Před 10 měsíci +2

    19:17 in the comics Sharon and Steve have been an on and off couple for years. Steve had a relationship with Peggy in World War II. But she was gone by the time Cap came out of the ice.
    As a premier Shield Agent, Sharon is allowed to wear her own custom SHIELD battle suit. Where most SHIELD agents wear a Black jumpsuit, Sharon always wears a white one.
    In the storyline that reintroduced Bucky as the Winter Soldier, Steve and Sharon were on a solo mission to find him on their own. When they weren’t in action…these two were in action. 🤣😂
    The artist drew them undressing or getting out of bed so often I was like, I get it they are boinking. Sheesh!!

  • @BlyatBlaster
    @BlyatBlaster Před 10 měsíci +2

    52:49 the “bit of green” in Caps eyes is important. When the original writers conceived Captain America he was supposed to be this perfect, ripped, tall, blonde haired, blue eyed, American Patriot fighting the Nazis. But look at that description. That’s how you describe the “perfect” German Aryan. Cap was supposed to be the perfect physical example of a German Aryan and then fight against the Nazi Reich.

  • @jayburn00
    @jayburn00 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Cool thing about this movie behind the scenes, a lot of it was shot in my school.

    • @TheOctobersReact
      @TheOctobersReact  Před 9 měsíci

      wow that’s very cool actually

    • @jayburn00
      @jayburn00 Před 9 měsíci

      @@TheOctobersReact to be honest, a lot of the marvel movies were shot on my school's grounds. In this one, one of the fight scenes was shot in our student center in front of our coffee shop. They also did other scenes in the same building and in the area surrounding it in other movies.

  • @kurauza
    @kurauza Před 10 měsíci +3

    Yessss. I was so readyyy for thisss❤❤❤Gonna watch it rigth now. Hope u guys are ok🎉🎉🎉🇵🇷

  • @-zerxvil-5208
    @-zerxvil-5208 Před 10 měsíci +2

    RIP Chadwick Boseman. His the Chad and the Boss. and yes he died of battling stage 4 colon cancer about 4 years.

  • @-zerxvil-5208
    @-zerxvil-5208 Před 10 měsíci +5

    15:41 The thing i love about Capt. America Civil War is that both side have a point. there's no wrong answer. gaining one means loosing the other. but is it beneficial to whom? obviously to the one who chooses whichever that benefits them due to circumstance. But this what entice conflict and with conflict... well I'm gonna stop now. but i like this writings. it reminds me of an anime call Code Geass: Lelouch of the rebellion.

  • @mikedignum1868
    @mikedignum1868 Před 10 měsíci +1

    The one thing that took me out of this is no one dies and a couple should have, after all, it's called Civil War. Wanda's powers likely come at least in part from the Mind Stone inside of Loki's scepter, Wanda's abilities include telekinesis, energy manipulation, and some form of neuroelectric interfacing that allows her to both read thoughts and also give her targets waking nightmares. Scarlet Witch can rewrite reality and make her a threat to the entire multiverse. In the comics, she was classed as an Omega Level Mutant, the same as Jean Grey and Prof-X.

  • @Hyp333R
    @Hyp333R Před 10 měsíci +1

    If u dont know, the actor who plays Secretary of State aka General Ross passed away recently, but he is recasted by non other than great Harrison Ford himself.

  • @sirflappington2484
    @sirflappington2484 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I feel like so many people have this misconception that as long as they didn't sign, then everything would go back to normal, but that's completely wrong. The accords was going to be ratified no matter which of the avengers signed. If none of them signed, the avengers would be disbanded completely and any actions they take would be vigilantism and illegal. If they didn't sign and continued to do their work as avengers, they would be wanted criminals in all 117 countries that ratified the accords. On the other hand, if they sign, they can, as black widow put it, "have one hand on the wheel" to try and influence the decisions of the UN, and if the UN makes a decision they don't like, then that's the right time to go rogue.

  • @larrybee
    @larrybee Před 10 měsíci +3

    ❤❤ 1st off glad you guys are back and safe! I’m so looking forward when you guys get to Infinity War and End Game.

  • @666blackcarbon9
    @666blackcarbon9 Před 10 měsíci +1

    So excited for this one!!

  • @F_ckyeasteve00
    @F_ckyeasteve00 Před 10 měsíci +1

    HELL YEAH! Always looking forward to both ur MCU & Scream reactions. Y'all are my new fav react channel

    • @TheOctobersReact
      @TheOctobersReact  Před 10 měsíci +1

      seriously we appreciate that!! thanks for watching 😊

  • @jeffburnett2392
    @jeffburnett2392 Před 7 měsíci

    Wow I loved both of you're opinions!

  • @BlyatBlaster
    @BlyatBlaster Před 10 měsíci +2

    30:17 Zemo is MK Ultra-ing Bucky.

  • @coolwata105
    @coolwata105 Před 10 měsíci +2

    10:34 Sadly, Hulk was being turned into a Friggin Child by Waititi in Thor Ragnarok.
    Right before Thanos beat his ass and turned him into a straight 🐈.
    I'll never forgive Marvel/Disney for what they did to him.

    • @ricardoortiz4870
      @ricardoortiz4870 Před 10 měsíci

      10:39 Speaking of Hulk, this is the same guy who wants to hunt down Bruce Banner and weaponize him.

  • @DSUASTE69
    @DSUASTE69 Před 10 měsíci +1

    It's fun going along with you guys in this journey

    • @DSUASTE69
      @DSUASTE69 Před 10 měsíci

      By the way when when the separated Her arms she was separating his molecules and when she brought them together she condensed him which is why he fell through all the floors in essence he became heavier

  • @JalilMuhammmad
    @JalilMuhammmad Před 10 měsíci +3

    Nah either way i don’t think tony would have won, because he wasn’t thinking when he was fighting and cap was fighting strategically

  • @chitown7732
    @chitown7732 Před 10 měsíci +6

    Definitely worth the wait💪🏼💪🏼 man you guys are moving pretty fast with this! Next one up is Dr. Strange. I know for a fact you’ll love him. The Russo brothers did such an amazing job with this film, the come back for infinity war and endgame. Bring your tissues for those last 2 avengers movies! Much love guys

  • @keef5
    @keef5 Před 10 měsíci +1

    You “move” (it’s more about acceleration) slow when you’re large because of the square cube rule. When you scale something up 2 times the volume is actually cubed. The amount of force needed to be applied to achieve the same acceleration for something like a punch is exponentially more and if it could be done you’d break your arm.
    You ever see elephants do anything quick?

  • @andreshernandez1180
    @andreshernandez1180 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Let’s do this 💪🏻

  • @rccraig7580
    @rccraig7580 Před 10 měsíci +3

    I'm glad you too enjoyed Civil War the shot of Tony and Cap facing off with one another is a scene straight out of the comic books. Well, I think I know what movie is next on your list and remember to keep an open mind about your next and " Forget everything you think you know"

  • @Nick-mk3mj
    @Nick-mk3mj Před 8 měsíci

    Before the movie started my boy said “who you know on here” 😂😂 my boy needed answers 😂😂

  • @davismccardle1
    @davismccardle1 Před 10 měsíci +2

    This is how awesome Iron Man really is - in a stand up fight he literally whipped Cap AND Winter Soldier. Cap only beat him because Tony let up on them.

    • @MaeLonewolf
      @MaeLonewolf Před 10 měsíci

      Gonna have to disagree with you on this.. Tony was blinded by rage and trying to KILL Bucky. Steve and Bucky were not trying to kill Tony, just trying to slow him down. Once the power to the Iron Man suit was disabled, Tony had nothing.

  • @Scott_Burton
    @Scott_Burton Před 9 měsíci +1

    0:40 "1991 a year before I was born" you say...
    But in your previous video 35 seconds in you said 1989 was the year you were born...
    3:55-4:00 Best description for Wanda (and her late twin brother, gone too soon Pietro) "He's fast and she's weird."
    6:30 Sadly, the explosive force was unstable enough that with her limited experience handling such, Wanda lost containment of the explosion too soon, because she "moved the explosion out of the way" not realizing when she let go of it, she just took out a few floor corners of a building. Casualties would likely have been much higher had she not moved it, but you can see it on her face when she realizes what she just did. Amped up she's reacting to it 6:42-4:43, conveying the "What did _I_ just _do_ to all those people?"
    27:48-27:52 "Technically, it's the Government's property" She's not wrong. Because a soldier is issued a weapon for use in the line of duty, it doesn't transfer ownership of it. And it was assigned to Cap when he was in the Army.
    31:05-31:10 You're "spamming" words, but if he heard them at all, Steve heard them one time. And I don't think he's fluent enough in Russian to recreate those words under pressure, assuming he heard all of them. Not to mention, we don't know if once "activated" those words would have the desired effect, or if there is a condition that must be met, or a different set of words to stand him down.
    33:45-33:50 It wasn't the 101st getting injected with what mad Bucky The Winter Soldier. He was recovered after the fall from the train over the ravine. But that particular revelation is next up.
    39:45-29:50 While the paint on the shield is obviously durable, the shield was originally made of vibranium in a metallic silver. I would wager the coat on it isn't "selectively colored vibranium. But yes, The Black Panther's claws are almost 100% guaranteed to be vibranium too, and he's already demonstrated he can hold his own with Captain America one on one, unarmed, and against The Winter Soldier without even his suit.
    I love that they kept the very engaging "conversational" aspect of Spider Man from the comics. He was always one with one liners and smart comments and even asking questions and trying to have a conversation in certain iterations in the comics.
    54:50-54:52 2 points I would make. 1. Bucky had no control over complying with his orders. 2. They are _not_ both metal. Bucky has a metal arm, Tony has an entire suit of armor. Nucky's head could come off with one thruster powered punch from Tony. Where ever Bucky hits Tony, he has to breach the armor to dismember him.
    55:20-55:30 "That was kind of corrupt to say, however."
    I would disagree. Bucky is admitting that he _presently_ remembers all of them, it wasn't long ago he was telling Steve he's not sure if he's worth all this. Because Bucky remembers what he did, or rather was forced to do. They didn't do him the kindness of erasing all the horrible things the made him do.

  • @gallendugall8913
    @gallendugall8913 Před 10 měsíci +6

    Compromise where you can. Where you can't, don't. Even if everyone is telling you that something wrong is something right. Even if the whole world is telling you to move, it is your duty to plant yourself like a tree, look them in the eye, and say, "I am Groot."

    • @terrylandess6072
      @terrylandess6072 Před 10 měsíci

      It's great they don't have to operate in the real world, with all the corruption, slavery, weapons dealing, etc. I doubt there would be time for any 'accords'. More like take a number, we'll get to your problem soon.

  • @ronaldbuduhan387
    @ronaldbuduhan387 Před 10 měsíci +2

    The really big question mark in this movie is where the f*ck was nick fury, as if its another universe where nick fury doesnt exist, thats
    whats messed up about this whole movie.

  • @coreyredx8756
    @coreyredx8756 Před 10 měsíci +5

    You guys should check out the movie "Hearts and Souls" it stars RDJ and Alfre woodard(the woman who told Tony StarK he killed her son in Sokovia). It's a fun movie from the early 90s and it was cool to see them reunite in this.

    • @tomhoffman4330
      @tomhoffman4330 Před 10 měsíci +2

      That's a Cute Classic, My Mom Loves that Movie too!

  • @jorgecabral4591
    @jorgecabral4591 Před 10 měsíci +1

    A little not-so-fun fact about the shot at 56:05 is that it is a direct recreation of the cover for one of the issues of the Civivl War comics. One of my favorite shots in the MCU

  • @josephalcantara-oo5ro
    @josephalcantara-oo5ro Před 10 měsíci +1

    Gr8 reactions & insights guys, your just in the half of this Amazing Avengers Journey, brace your selves cuz it's abt 2 blow u both away! Especially Infinity War & End Game, it's gonna be a blast! Hope you have a strong couch!!!! Godbless u both & family....

  • @CocaCasta
    @CocaCasta Před 7 měsíci +1

    "I'm pretty sure the whole universe doesn't bend to Tony Stark's will.!"... Ha!.

  • @Rem_loves_ryuk
    @Rem_loves_ryuk Před 3 měsíci

    Wanda: you are pulling your punches
    Hawk: what! You want me to kill her!!!???