The combination of Eric and Trevor has been unmatched. Both coaches are A+ on their own but the way you guys mesh has been the so greatly absorbable and impactful for me. Your efforts are much appreciated!
This is gold, I really like the way Travis explains the swing. I'm with him on this, hitting the ball is a result of the rotation of the body and reacting to the weight of the club, makes sense and much easier to create lag.
As a teacher, viewing this entire series of videos has been fantastic. Trevor manages to explain a lot of things in much simpler terms than some others are able to. Very easy to translate to students who aren't bio mechanics majors. Science backs this up. Not everyone will feel it the same way but a large majority of people should benefit in one way, shape or form. Will absolutely help using some of these explanations and drills with my students and will certainly not be afraid to share credit where credit is due.
This is probably the best video on lag I've seen. That little drill is something I just started doing on my own because that was the only way I could create lag effortlessly so I'm glad to see I'm on the right track.
Great point you are making when you say the more you can get the club shaft perpendicular to the spine the faster you can swing the club head. I think this is a big point that is missed in the minds of many. That is why shallowing out the club (ie.e getting club shaft perpendicular to the spine during the transition ) is so critical to creating club head speed. The faster you can move the shaft by getting it perpendicular to th spine in the downswing, the faster the club head the further the ball goes.
I’m 51 years old and have been playing golf since I was 12. I was a pretty good golfer (weekend golfer) and had a 10 handicap. I’ve never been the long hitter and about 5 years ago got suckered into chasing distance. I decided to fork over some hard earned dough and get lessons. He screwed me up so bad with very odd and hard to do tips/ pointers that I had to stop playing because I literally couldn’t hit the ball anymore with a millions thoughts in my head. I love the game too much to stay away so I tried finding my old swing and keep play, unfortunately I never found it and have been struggling ever since. Fortunately, your guys’s videos on rotation and the movement, the hips, ribs and shoulders should create have made all the difference. I wish I lived in South Florida, so I could take lessons from you. I can’t thank you enough for these wonderful videos.
Eric, you show so many facets of golf on your channel, and God bless you for it. However, this is the thing that 99.9% of late beginners or high handicaps need to feel. Ride this rabbit hole.
Eric and Trevor are a treasure trove of golf knowledge. I only wish per this demonstration they would have cautioned against getting stuck by leaving the arms behind. Eric has beautiful body movement which in turn allows the passive arms to work in harmony.
Great feeling for sure!!! The constant motion drill that is being alluded to here has been the best way for me to feel what solid contact and body motion should be. Just a matter of feeling that on every shot. Great vid!!!!!
Great video, Eric and Trevor! It seems “float loading” has gotten a bad rep in some instruction circles, but I agree that dynamically loading (and shallowing) using fluid wrists against the weight of the club is the most natural, athletic, and powerful way to swing a golf club. It can feel truly effortless when you get it right. And it can even be done with a pause at the top - look how little Cameron Young’s wrists are set at the top when he takes a slight pause. Most ams try to forcefully put the club in positions, cranking their trail wrist into full extension and keeping it there, instead of just relaxing and letting it “fall” into the right position.
Eric, thank you for pointing out there are other ways of getting the job done. The “float load” has worked beautifully for me at times. But so has focusing on swinging the arms. One size does not fit all.
You guys, as a tea, are incredible!!!! I love the videos with the both of you and have learned so much. Bravo, keep sending out the amazing videos!!!! I say "Laxidazzicle" on the course now almost every round!
This is a GREAT video and such a simple and powerful way to become a better golfer. I am hitting the ball so much better because of applying "Natural Lag!" When I do it correctly it almost feels effortless! Thank you Trevor and Eric! Do more. Andy, Corning, NY
Trevor is the absolute best. Thank you. Had a golf coach in Malaysia, modest, quiet, most he would say is 'leave it there' - for most 'problems' golfers had 'leave it there' - people would get frustrated with him, they wanted him to play for them, basically, he'd just say 'leave it there' and let them work it out. Loved watching him work, 'leave it there' - you get 'rotation', lag, hip trigger, relaxed wrists the lot. Leave it there haha, thanks guys, your videos are also hilarious 'I threw up on myself' haha. Perfect!
Also find it interesting how ideas work through the golf training community, was just the other day using floppy wrists and 'doing nothing' with my arms and found this, perhaps this is how we all grow as players, it's true as you always stress, it's in the mind. That's a great thing about golf, you can't play if you refuse to listen.
My dear Eric, thank you for this great video. This is exactly this, where I work now in the moment. I play with dead hands, only with my body. I have no slices now, only hooks by bad shots. I´am longer. The transition loading also I try. I must find the exactly moment, where I must start the power and the muscles. Perhaps it is to early now. When I will "fired" with the arms, I sliced. Thank you very much, Erich
U 2 doing a great job!!!!! I´ve benn playing golf for over 20 years now, unfortunately nobody told me these key facts about posture, swing thoughts and movement so i´ve never been able to fix my little problems in my hobby golfer swing 😊 now i´m able to work on it, beginning to use my arm and hands correctly, not rushing and flipping 😡i´ve been wasting time😡please go on doing videos!!!!! Take care, Harald
Excellent instruction with good collaboration. I feel what you’re talking about when I’m hitting well but I couldn’t define it. Now I have a better visual for what I’m trying to accomplish. I think there should be a follow up with how the hips cause this reaction and how the upper body has to get out of the way.
The real key to maintain lag until late in the downswing is to initiate the transition via lead hip external rotation which in turn will rotate the the lead knee. About 1/2 of top golfers have their wrists set by 9:00 going back ; almost all the rest do so by the top. There is really no need to float load .
Excellent video! Lag cannot be actively done, rather it is a by-product of other body movements. It is created by throwing the weight of the club-head behind you and then leaving it there while your hips, torso, shoulders and wrists (in that order) come back down first. Do I have it correctly? For me, the reason why this was so hard to understand is that we are constantly told that we need to control the clubhead (path, angle relative to path, speed etc.), but it turns out that lag can only be created by letting go of the clubhead, letting go of a tight grip and letting go of any expectation of where the ball will go. Ironically, it is only after letting go that we can control how we hit the ball and where it will go!
Mr Cogorno and Trevor - excellent instruction as always. I really picked up on the 'last 3 fingers of the left hand' mention. How 'bad' or misguided/misunderstood has instruction been over the decades? I'll be 67 in April, still fit & healthy, and playing to scratch/low handicap. Things could've been so much easier - aargh..!!! Cheers, William
Can this same concept work with the driver swing? By the way I had a decent swing that had me scoring my lowest and started watching a bunch of videos. That had me screwed up. Not yours. 🤦🏻♂️ But a buddy turned me on to you and I’m slowly getting back where I need to be. Now I tell everyone about you when they need direction. Thanks!!!
Appreciate that Jeff! Glad to hear you are back on track :) Some differences with driver for sure----This one is probably the most encompassing one we did on driver differences czcams.com/video/TJtx-qVSgVU/video.html
Please look at the operation of a medieval trebuchet. It’s an upside down golf swing and the release is superb. This is despite not having any control over the “wrist” as there is none, just a loose hinge. If you leave the wrists loose the release will be controlled by the physics of the turn and gravity. This is very important because this release will be the same EVERY TIME. Try to time that with a conscious effort of the wrists. No chance!
Eric - can you describe your grip pressure before and after this video? I’m curious if you’ve lightened your grip pressure since learning ‘natural lag’ or does grip pressure not effect this?
Hey! I have not....but I ALWAYS am reminding myself to be "relaxed" before I hit on course both before and after. Perhaps this helped highlight it for me
I have been playing golf for a number of years and as I've gotten older I've lost distance. My swing has no lag. I've always swung as hard as possible. Your video makes more sense than any I've seen concerning lag. I think my grip pressure is too much. I've filmed my swing in the past but have not been able to watch in slow motion. Do you have any recommendations for what kind of video software i can use to capture my videos in slow motion? Thanks in advance.
Dear Eric, I have a question please. A golf teacher tells me, "hold the upper body back, while the upper body goes foreward". Trevor speak about the "transition loading", so the rythm is important, I think. If I hold the upper body back, the rythm is not so good. What you think please Sir? Thank you, Erich
@@CogornoGolf He means, seperate by the downswing the upper body from the lower body. The upper body wait, while the lower body open, the presure goes forward and the left knee open. I remember now, you habe also a video about it. Can I combinate it with Trevor´s swing? Thank you, Erich
I have learned so much from your instruction, but this is confusing. According to AMG guys they say hardly any pro golfers swing like this based on their data. They pointed out that the arms in transition come straight down before the body starts rotating. Also when you were shooting with Malaska he talked about the club wanting to lay down, and tipping the club vertically slightly counteracts that so you’re not getting stuck or dragging the handle. Can you talk about the differences?
The problem with saying you shouldn’t try and creat lag and then advertising and marketing a lag trainer like the precision impact contradicts the whole video for me.
The “ precision impact trainer “ does NOT create or maintain lag( radial deviation ) , but helps to train right wrist extension . Every golfer no matter what his/ her handicap must uncock( ulnar deviate -lose lag ) the wrists at impact . However , only better players have extension in their trail wrist at impact .
@@davecohn6407 how does it train right wrist extension. It literally make you not extend. You physically can’t because it locks it in place. Thus creating lag. Or stopping early extension. Or early release. Flipping. That’s exactly what this video is about.
The wrists are capable of 4 movements radial deviation or COCKING Ulnar deviation or UNCOCKING Extension or bending the wrist towards the outside of the forearm Flexion or bending the wrist towards the inside of the forearm . Lag is defined as CREATING and MAINTAINING radial deviation The definition of FLIPPING is having less trail wrist extension ( or less lead wrist flexion ) at impact than at setup.Flipping will cause the clubhead to advance relative to the hands , will add dynamic loft to the clubhead at impact even as it closes the clubface . Flipping will move the low point of your swing back in your stance , thus making it impossible to compress the ball towards the center grooves As I mentioned before , everyone must lose their lag or UNCOCK their wrists at impact or else the club head will pass above the ball The “precision impact trainer “locks your right wrist into extension , but unlike previous aids , it allows golfers to cock and uncock their wrists . Maintaining right wrist extension is the OPPOSITE of flipping . The argument against the” precision impact trainer “is that it artificially locks your right wrist into extension and does not carry over into a swing without the “ precision impact trainer “. Many of us have gone down the road of float loading , while very few have successfully incorporated it into their swings . There is a reason why so few pros float load . It is not necessary in better players , even in those with more lag, because top pros sequence their lower body first .
Sergio is possibly the worst model imaginable for those of us who lack his talent Sergio has always been a great driver of the ball . But he tees it up very low , hits the ball low and sometimes takes a divot in front of the ball with a driver because he hits so much down on the ball. Teeing the ball low and hitting so much down will work for only a very, very small % of golfers
The combination of Eric and Trevor has been unmatched. Both coaches are A+ on their own but the way you guys mesh has been the so greatly absorbable and impactful for me.
Your efforts are much appreciated!
Appreciate your kind words and support!
This is gold, I really like the way Travis explains the swing. I'm with him on this, hitting the ball is a result of the rotation of the body and reacting to the weight of the club, makes sense and much easier to create lag.
Thanks Javier!
As a teacher, viewing this entire series of videos has been fantastic. Trevor manages to explain a lot of things in much simpler terms than some others are able to. Very easy to translate to students who aren't bio mechanics majors. Science backs this up. Not everyone will feel it the same way but a large majority of people should benefit in one way, shape or form. Will absolutely help using some of these explanations and drills with my students and will certainly not be afraid to share credit where credit is due.
:) So glad you enjoyed these videos, Matt! Thank you for watching and for your support!
This is probably the best video on lag I've seen. That little drill is something I just started doing on my own because that was the only way I could create lag effortlessly so I'm glad to see I'm on the right track.
👊Hope it serves your game well, Andrew!
This is unbelievable ❤
Thanks! Hope it helps!
Great point you are making when you say the more you can get the club shaft perpendicular to the spine the faster you can swing the club head. I think this is a big point that is missed in the minds of many. That is why shallowing out the club (ie.e getting club shaft perpendicular to the spine during the transition ) is so critical to creating club head speed. The faster you can move the shaft by getting it perpendicular to th spine in the downswing, the faster the club head the further the ball goes.
Thanks so much for your continued support, Harold! We appreciate you being here with us!
I’m 51 years old and have been playing golf since I was 12. I was a pretty good golfer (weekend golfer) and had a 10 handicap. I’ve never been the long hitter and about 5 years ago got suckered into chasing distance. I decided to fork over some hard earned dough and get lessons. He screwed me up so bad with very odd and hard to do tips/ pointers that I had to stop playing because I literally couldn’t hit the ball anymore with a millions thoughts in my head. I love the game too much to stay away so I tried finding my old swing and keep play, unfortunately I never found it and have been struggling ever since. Fortunately, your guys’s videos on rotation and the movement, the hips, ribs and shoulders should create have made all the difference. I wish I lived in South Florida, so I could take lessons from you. I can’t thank you enough for these wonderful videos.
So glad to hear the videos have helped my friend! Thanks for being here with us!
Eric, you show so many facets of golf on your channel, and God bless you for it. However, this is the thing that 99.9% of late beginners or high handicaps need to feel. Ride this rabbit hole.
Thanks Jarrett! Agreed this is a big one!
Eric and Trevor are a treasure trove of golf knowledge. I only wish per this demonstration they would have cautioned against getting stuck by leaving the arms behind. Eric has beautiful body movement which in turn allows the passive arms to work in harmony.
Appreciate your feedback and support, Tom!👊
Great feeling for sure!!! The constant motion drill that is being alluded to here has been the best way for me to feel what solid contact and body motion should be. Just a matter of feeling that on every shot. Great vid!!!!!
Appreciate it Corey!
Great video, Eric and Trevor! It seems “float loading” has gotten a bad rep in some instruction circles, but I agree that dynamically loading (and shallowing) using fluid wrists against the weight of the club is the most natural, athletic, and powerful way to swing a golf club. It can feel truly effortless when you get it right.
And it can even be done with a pause at the top - look how little Cameron Young’s wrists are set at the top when he takes a slight pause.
Most ams try to forcefully put the club in positions, cranking their trail wrist into full extension and keeping it there, instead of just relaxing and letting it “fall” into the right position.
For sure----several way to get the job done!
Eric, thank you for pointing out there are other ways of getting the job done. The “float load” has worked beautifully for me at times. But so has focusing on swinging the arms. One size does not fit all.
You guys, as a tea, are incredible!!!! I love the videos with the both of you and have learned so much. Bravo, keep sending out the amazing videos!!!! I say "Laxidazzicle" on the course now almost every round!
:) Thank you, Eric!
Another excellent video, please keep them coming
Thanks Geoff! More to come!
These videos on sequence are absolute gold.
Thank you!
Wow pure gold here gentlemen in explaining the most misunderstood part of the golf swing
Thank you, Deb!👊
Trevor and Eric are awesome! Great team up and super useful information.
Thanks for your support! Glad you enjoyed this one!
Great video. Like snapping a towel
Thank you, Steve!
This is a GREAT video and such a simple and powerful way to become a better golfer. I am hitting the ball so much better because of applying "Natural Lag!" When I do it correctly it almost feels effortless! Thank you Trevor and Eric! Do more. Andy, Corning, NY
Thank you Andy!
Trevor is the absolute best. Thank you. Had a golf coach in Malaysia, modest, quiet, most he would say is 'leave it there' - for most 'problems' golfers had 'leave it there' - people would get frustrated with him, they wanted him to play for them, basically, he'd just say 'leave it there' and let them work it out. Loved watching him work, 'leave it there' - you get 'rotation', lag, hip trigger, relaxed wrists the lot. Leave it there haha, thanks guys, your videos are also hilarious 'I threw up on myself' haha. Perfect!
Also find it interesting how ideas work through the golf training community, was just the other day using floppy wrists and 'doing nothing' with my arms and found this, perhaps this is how we all grow as players, it's true as you always stress, it's in the mind. That's a great thing about golf, you can't play if you refuse to listen.
Thanks Mick!
My dear Eric,
thank you for this great video.
This is exactly this, where I work now in the moment.
I play with dead hands, only with my body.
I have no slices now, only hooks by bad shots.
I´am longer.
The transition loading also I try. I must find the exactly moment,
where I must start the power and the muscles.
Perhaps it is to early now.
When I will "fired" with the arms, I sliced.
Thank you very much, Erich
Our pleasure, Erich! Hope this one serves you well!
Excellent explanation.
Thank you!
U 2 doing a great job!!!!! I´ve benn playing golf for over 20 years now, unfortunately nobody told me these key facts about posture, swing thoughts and movement so i´ve never been able to fix my little problems in my hobby golfer swing 😊 now i´m able to work on it, beginning to use my arm and hands correctly, not rushing and flipping 😡i´ve been wasting time😡please go on doing videos!!!!!
Take care, Harald
Thanks for your support, Harald! Appreciate you being here with us!
This is EXACTLY what ive been stuck on! Thank you!
Hope this one helps my friend!
Excellent instruction with good collaboration. I feel what you’re talking about when I’m hitting well but I couldn’t define it. Now I have a better visual for what I’m trying to accomplish. I think there should be a follow up with how the hips cause this reaction and how the upper body has to get out of the way.
Thanks Timothy!
3.27 Mike Malaska wouldn't like that 😂. I love this guy. A lot of what he says makes total sense.
Thanks for watching, Alexander!
Perfect explanation
Thank you, Phillip!
The real key to maintain lag until late in the downswing is to initiate the transition
via lead hip external rotation which in turn will rotate the the lead knee.
About 1/2 of top golfers have their wrists set by 9:00 going back ; almost all the rest do so by the top. There is really no need to float load .
Levels...this will help people
Thanks for your feedback Dave!
Another video that just makes great common sense… cheers
Appreciate your support! Hope it helps your game!
Weird I found this a lot better than I expected it to be
Excellent video! Lag cannot be actively done, rather it is a by-product of other body movements. It is created by throwing the weight of the club-head behind you and then leaving it there while your hips, torso, shoulders and wrists (in that order) come back down first. Do I have it correctly? For me, the reason why this was so hard to understand is that we are constantly told that we need to control the clubhead (path, angle relative to path, speed etc.), but it turns out that lag can only be created by letting go of the clubhead, letting go of a tight grip and letting go of any expectation of where the ball will go. Ironically, it is only after letting go that we can control how we hit the ball and where it will go!
Sounds right :)
Mr Cogorno and Trevor - excellent instruction as always. I really picked up on the 'last 3 fingers of the left hand' mention. How 'bad' or misguided/misunderstood has instruction been over the decades? I'll be 67 in April, still fit & healthy, and playing to scratch/low handicap. Things could've been so much easier - aargh..!!!
Cheers,
William
Appreciate you being here with us William!
Can this same concept work with the driver swing? By the way I had a decent swing that had me scoring my lowest and started watching a bunch of videos. That had me screwed up. Not yours. 🤦🏻♂️ But a buddy turned me on to you and I’m slowly getting back where I need to be. Now I tell everyone about you when they need direction. Thanks!!!
Appreciate that Jeff! Glad to hear you are back on track :)
Some differences with driver for sure----This one is probably the most encompassing one we did on driver differences
czcams.com/video/TJtx-qVSgVU/video.html
Please look at the operation of a medieval trebuchet. It’s an upside down golf swing and the release is superb. This is despite not having any control over the “wrist” as there is none, just a loose hinge. If you leave the wrists loose the release will be controlled by the physics of the turn and gravity. This is very important because this release will be the same EVERY TIME. Try to time that with a conscious effort of the wrists. No chance!
Oh can’t believe we didn’t get a “that’s about as solid as I can hit it” so deserving
LOL! My bad----wont happen again :)
Eric - can you describe your grip pressure before and after this video? I’m curious if you’ve lightened your grip pressure since learning ‘natural lag’ or does grip pressure not effect this?
Hey! I have not....but I ALWAYS am reminding myself to be "relaxed" before I hit on course both before and after. Perhaps this helped highlight it for me
I have been playing golf for a number of years and as I've gotten older I've lost distance. My swing has no lag. I've always swung as hard as possible. Your video makes more sense than any I've seen concerning lag. I think my grip pressure is too much. I've filmed my swing in the past but have not been able to watch in slow motion. Do you have any recommendations for what kind of video software i can use to capture my videos in slow motion? Thanks in advance.
Hope this one serves you well!
If you have an iPhone, you can use the slow motion setting on there👍👍
@@CogornoGolf I have a Samsung android. Does it have slow motion?
We need average players being taught on this channel - it’s no use at all watching Eric’s swing being taught - we all know he swings it great
Hey there!
We have a bunch of live lessons with amateur golfers on the channel that you may enjoy checking out!👊
The two of you and Saguto should record yourselves playing a round of golf
Love this idea!
@CogornoGolf me too buddy! Do it please
So many truths we can't keep up
Lol touche :)
Trevor has easily been one of the best instructors I've come across on CZcams. He is EXCELLENT.
Trevor is awesome!!
Dear Eric, I have a question please.
A golf teacher tells me, "hold the upper body back, while the upper body goes foreward".
Trevor speak about the "transition loading", so the rythm is important, I think.
If I hold the upper body back, the rythm is not so good.
What you think please Sir?
Thank you, Erich
Hey Erich....not sure....that too "fuzzy" the way I'm hearing you explain it.....need more details to give more specifics here...
@@CogornoGolf He means, seperate by the downswing the upper body from the lower body.
The upper body wait, while the lower body open, the presure goes forward and the left knee open.
I remember now, you habe also a video about it.
Can I combinate it with Trevor´s swing?
Thank you, Erich
I have learned so much from your instruction, but this is confusing. According to AMG guys they say hardly any pro golfers swing like this based on their data. They pointed out that the arms in transition come straight down before the body starts rotating. Also when you were shooting with
Malaska he talked about the club wanting to lay down, and tipping the club vertically slightly counteracts that so you’re not getting stuck or dragging the handle. Can you talk about the differences?
For sure---perhaps for a future video.
A LOT of this is about FEEL vs REAL. Will explain better moving forward
Why is it all these channels show someone who already can play teaching Simone who already can play .
Hey Sean! We have a bunch of videos of us teaching amateur golfers on the channel that I think you'll enjoy checking out!
The problem with saying you shouldn’t try and creat lag and then advertising and marketing a lag trainer like the precision impact contradicts the whole video for me.
What he is saying is 100% accurate though
The “ precision impact trainer “ does NOT create or maintain lag( radial deviation ) , but helps to train right wrist extension . Every golfer no matter what his/ her handicap must uncock( ulnar deviate -lose lag ) the wrists at impact . However , only better players have extension in their trail wrist at impact .
@@davecohn6407 how does it train right wrist extension. It literally make you not extend. You physically can’t because it locks it in place. Thus creating lag. Or stopping early extension. Or early release. Flipping. That’s exactly what this video is about.
Hey Kevin! I hear ya and understand your perspective--my fault.
The wrists are capable of 4 movements radial deviation or COCKING
Ulnar deviation or UNCOCKING
Extension or bending the wrist towards the outside of the forearm
Flexion or bending the wrist towards the inside of the forearm .
Lag is defined as CREATING and MAINTAINING radial deviation
The definition of FLIPPING is having less trail wrist extension ( or less lead wrist flexion ) at impact than at setup.Flipping will cause the clubhead to advance relative to the hands , will add dynamic loft to the clubhead at impact even as it closes the clubface . Flipping will move the low point of your swing back in your stance , thus making it impossible to compress the ball towards the center grooves
As I mentioned before , everyone must lose their lag or UNCOCK their wrists at impact or else the club head will pass above the ball
The “precision impact trainer “locks your right wrist into extension , but unlike previous aids , it allows golfers to cock and uncock their wrists .
Maintaining right wrist extension is the OPPOSITE of flipping .
The argument against the” precision impact trainer “is that it artificially locks your right wrist into extension and does not carry over into a swing without the “ precision impact trainer “.
Many of us have gone down the road of float loading , while very few have successfully incorporated it into their swings . There is a reason why so few pros float load . It is not necessary in better players , even in those with more lag, because top pros sequence their lower body first .
Sergio is possibly the worst model imaginable for those of us who lack his talent
Sergio has always been a great driver of the ball . But he tees it up very low , hits the ball low and sometimes takes a divot in front of the ball with a driver because he hits so much down on the ball.
Teeing the ball low and hitting so much down will work for only a very, very small % of golfers
Thanks for the feedback, Dave!