Sad Facts/Beliefs About The Ziegler Family! || Dance Moms
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ׂׂૢ ׂׂ🎂| Hi everyone!! I hope you enjoyed this video! Today I was listing facts/common thoughts about the Ziegler family that I know and have researched into about Dance Moms! Next I will do sad facts/beliefs about the Lukasiaks, so stay tuned!
ׂׂૢ ׂׂ🧁| Let me know if you think some of these are true or some are not! Some of them were confirmed by Maddie, Mackenzie, or Melissa themselves, but some others are just common beliefs by the fandom. Thanks for watching!
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Kenz had a lyrical solo called Little Angel and she won!!!
@@Ghaniyahgillani oh really? that’s so cool!
They never aired it
@@kaitlinbilous4605ooff lol 😂
Completely agree that mackenzie was SO underrated
@@hazelmagnanelliott9228 FRR
I used to get so frustrated at miller constantly telling Mackenzie "be like maddie:. I would have loved to see maddie do what Mackenzie could do.
@@debraroland443 frr!! they were both good and didn’t need to be compared!
Ya
@@debraroland443fr tho
Out of all the Zieglers, Mackenzie's trauma is the most observed. For a long time (and still going strong), people continuously make out that Maddie is a "brat" and that it was her fault that Abby chose her to be the favorite. They still always compare her to Chloe or Brooke and Paige saying that they're "decently manners" and "good hearted" while she's still villainized. Melissa's trauma is just overlooked all together because the show made her out to be "conniving" and "backstabbing". Yes, she does indeed have her flaws but she's still a good mom. If you were to watch MackZBoss's Dance Moms uncovered series, you'd see that Melissa still cared a lot about both her daughters, not just Maddie.
Mackenzie was the easier to sympathize with because she was cute, and she was never portrayed in a "bad light" like the rest of her family. Many people can relate to being overshadowed by their siblings, while they can't relate to constantly having a lot of pressure, being groomed to believe everyone hated you and that you were only worth something if you won, and always in some type of toxic relationship.
@@DaWeirdestShipper228 I totally agree! I think Mackenzie also has the most observed trauma, but what I meant was that with everyone in the fandom, they’re usually focused on Chloe’s or Paige’s or Brooke’s. All three of the Zieglers’ trauma is completely overlooked in my opinion. Mackenzie’s is definitely less overlooked, but she tends to be forgotten about within the fandom. I watch MackZBoss all the time, her videos are so great! Melissa and Maddie were both portrayed in villain lights, so that’s why they’re consistently hated on within the fandom, whereas Mackenzie is more just forgotten about
@@cakeyeditss Oh, I am so sorry for misunderstanding, but yes, most of the fandom focusses on Chloe, Paige, and Nia's trauma the most, undermine Brooke's and Mackenzie's, and completely ignored Maddie's. And then, they try and compare it by saying "Nia hurt the worst since Abby was racist" or "Paige was so overlooked". As Holly said, "they all hurt the same", their trauma was each very different, but the results are somewhat the same. It seems that they have found ways to cope with the experience and have all come out as respectable young ladies.
With that being said, the fandom also needs to stop sending death threats to Peyton.
I was recently watching the dancemoms series again, and my mom has watched a couple with me for the first time, trying to explain that Maddie is so miss understood is such a task honestly, production really did her dirty, I’m constantly having to explain to my mom Maddie isn’t a brat and she was heavily manipulated, even production wanted Maddie to come off as this bratty kid for entertainment, they wanted that narrative, and abby instilled some negative traits in her. For me it just always seems Maddie got the most hate from the fandom even tho she also has a large following. I will always stand on the fact Maddie was extremely passionate with her craft and did deserve the recognition she got, she wasn’t leaps and bounds above her competition starting off but she truly devoted everything to it in order to vastly keep improving. The other girls did deserve more but I hate when people discredit her, sometimes stardom goes beyond just the talent but the passion and ambition and I think Maddie had that. I know some of the others did too, and for some abby took that away. But Maddie to me was my favourite for reasons such as this, as I did see something special in her. Just like Chloe, Paige, Kendall etc may be others. I loved all the girls tho, and they all deserved better. Maddie was a very competitive kid, but I think she was just very serious about reaching for the stars, to make it in the industry that’s what it takes you’ve got to have that confidence, she really wasn’t a brat she just so desperately wanted it and was a very confident kid which isn’t a bad thing. Abby also instilled in her that without winning she had no chance of getting there, these are the bad things, but Maddie is not to blame she was very much a victim but a victim in a different way in comparison to the rest.
Mackenzie deserved better. Abby was comparing her, but also the FANDOM too! Also, when both Maddie snd Mackenzie were leaving in season 6, the main focus wss on Maddie. Maddie got 2 duets and a solo. Mackenzie almost got nothing. Its sad, honestly
@@dabisbestie frr, and Mackenzie didn’t even get a very good solo at that 😭 I mean she did good with it but Abby didn’t give her good choreography
THIS IS WHY I CONTINUOUSLY SAY, VIEW EACH DANCE MOMS MEMBER AS A CHARACTER. for instance, never view maddie as a brat, view maddie as a character on the show as a brat, but maddie herself isn't a brat. it's a tv show, you won't be judged if you think maddie as a character is bratty. if you think maddie is a brat irl, however, you're going to be judged. that's my advice lol
@@axdie.b3ll lol i get that, they were all set to play roles on the show lol
@@cakeyeditss mhm.
If Kalani , Kendall, and Jojo were trash talking about Maddie, I just lost some respect for them, Maddie’s two best friend in the later seasons were Kendall, and Kalani, and Jojo was just trash talking a lot of other people
@@MariellaBogani-is1jo Frr. Jojo and Kendall both were mad about how Nia, Maddie, and Mackenzie all three didn’t come to the reunion. However, Kendall it seemed more targeted towards to Maddie and Mackenzie, which is interesting, because Maddie used to be best friends with Kendall. Then Kalani didn’t say anything about Maddie and Mackenzie, but she did trash talk Melissa about how Melissa was “sneaky and a liar” even though Melissa was the one who babysat Kalani for MONTHS because Kalani’s mom wasn’t there to take care of her. It really shows Kalani’s ungratefulness and it made me dislike her a lot more.
@@cakeyeditss Ikr! Like that shows how Kalani was ungrateful for the things Melissa had done for her
@@MariellaBogani-is1jo Frr! Like I know Melissa has her faults, but it’s incredibly immature and just not classy to talk about them and laugh almost like she’s making fun of her on TV in front of millions.
FR, The 3 OG’s there (Chloe, Brooke, and Paige) looked so uncomfortable listening to them.
@@MariellaBogani-is1jo we never knew what happened at at Maddie’s house and I know what usually happens
another one is that when kenzie beat maddie and melissa said maddie should’ve won it was staged and the reason melissa was crying is bc she didn’t want to say it
@@chloe.editsss ohh thats so sad 😭 they tried to push that favoritism thing with Melissa so hard
@@cakeyeditss frr tho
i 100% agree that mackenzie would be a rival for maddie if she had been given the chance mackenzie was almost never gave lyrical/mature dances like maddie if she couldnt do it right away perfect abby would be mad but mackenzie didnt have tons of practice cause she had cutesy dances i would wanna see maddie do one of kenzies acro dances perfectly right away
also if you watched the video “maddie ziegler answers most searched questions” she would say “the show i was in when i was younger” instead of saying dance moms
@@ItsAria_YTshorts frr, she never calls it by name 😭
@@cakeyeditss ikr it’s so sad 😭
Love this ❤ the zieglers trauma is never talked about.
@@STACEYXRENEE frr!!
Melissa was scared to lose abby and scared to lose friendship with the moms
The moms should understand that
Kalani trash talking the zieglers was very bratty, first they had her live with them and if not maddie and kalanis first duo maybe kalani wasn't gonna be in aldc
Kenzie had little angel which won first it just wasn’t aired in season 4. She also had a acro lyrical in season 5 nationals which got 4th place it’s called dreamer girl. And she had a acro lyrical or acro contemporary solo in season 3 called dancing barefoot which got her 3rd place.
@@STACEYXRENEE thank you!! i knew she had dancing barefoot but she forgot it so i didn’t count it
@@cakeyeditss lol it kinda is forgettable. She looked so nervous up on stage poor Kenzie.
@@STACEYXRENEE frr, it makes me so sad every time 😭
BRO I WAS WATCHING THIS VIDEO IN 1.75 SPEED ON ACCIDENT AND SO I WAS LIKE “WHY IS EVERYTHING SO SPED UP?!?!?” AND THEN I JUST REALIZED 😭😭💕 I loved this thoooo
@@roblox_ca_2864 HAHA THAT’D BE SO FUNNY 😭 tysm!!
@@cakeyeditss ikr and ofcccc
Hahah same I thought it was supposed to be that fast
i personally have to disagree with the last one, not about how mackenzie is well rounded, but that she could be a rival. i would rather mackenzie and maddie be friends, not even let maddie overshadow her sister as well
@@CocoMo-TheMimic oh yes!! I didn’t mean that I wanted favoritism between the two! I just meant Mackenzie was so good that she could’ve beat Maddie multiple times if she had the chance
@@cakeyeditss ohhh okay yeah i agree , it doesnt really matter if i agree lol but yeah i see what your trying to say now lol
@@CocoMo-TheMimic lol yeah sorry if I explained that bad!
THESE ARE SO SAD
@@AriaAldc149 LOL FRR
1:26 I agree with so much, being compared to you older sister it really hard and with it being constant the trauma and mental abuse always stays with you
@@jules.glish13 frr. i totally get it as the youngest sibling.
2:19 I don’t think the girls have bitter feelings towards her,I don’t think they ever did tbh if they did the wouldn’t go to her house for Paige’s party and have a good time with her,they would probably avoid her
3:15 SMART BUTT IM DONE
HAHA i didn’t want to use the bad word lol 😭
@@cakeyeditss lol
14 is literally soo true christy made such a big deal
About it and it is just a duet abby would eventually give paige and chloe another duet.
That day I felt so bad for Maddie she probably thinks she is the reason abby fought with Kelly and the hyllands left also if I was chloe I would forgive Maddie
I saw maddie and kalani's duet at the other competition so maddie wasn't lying...they did the duo at Nuvo and I think then they went with Kira to the competition
@@nqrnia_4ever8272 thats so cool that you got to watch them dance!
Actually after the Ziegler's left Melissa did talk to Abby and you can hear Jill saying in an episode that Abby texted Melissa and was complaining about the moms
omg melanie martinez and dance moms my 2 fav things
The intro >>>
@@ChuckECheeseConversations awww tysm!!
Your intro was so cool
@@STORMY1973 tysm!!
@@cakeyeditss yw!!
Oh wow these r sad
i knoww 😭
could u pls explain to me the whole "maddie lied about duet" thing? i mean ive heard about this situation a lot of times but i feel that i still dont get it 😭maybe some easy explanation will help
The eleventh one was more like Mackenzie was being compared more than Maddie
an intro with good grammar?!?!
@@ItsAria_YTshorts HAHA
WAIT THESE ARE SAD
LOL
@@cakeyeditss Kendall doesn’t deserve Maddie I think she just likes Maddie because of her fame and popularity 😭 and I didn’t know Kalani made fun of Maddie?! She was literally one of the sweetest people on the show so I am so surprised!
@@SiouxaldcaltFR, I think it was really Jill who kinda forced Kendall to be friends with Maddie because they both wanted the fame and favoritism thing 😭 yeah, Kalani was really sweet on the show and I can’t remember what she said, but she said something about how Melissa was a fake and a liar or something to agree with Christi, and it was really rude and surprised me because Melissa went out of her way to make Kalani feel loved and comfortable when her mom wasn’t there for her
@@cakeyeditss fr Maddie seemed kinda uncomfortable with her around
@@Siouxaldcalt FR 😭
Kenzie was better than Asia
But in the duet they did it was choreographed so kenzie should do all the tricks and dancing as a background for Asia and Asia got to do a little dancing to match with kenz and be in center stage and do her over the top expressions. But kenzie has just as amazing expressions if you don't think so watch dance doctor.
I'm glad Asia left
mackenzie was really good but i think ppl didnt realize it
@@sanrio..luvsss frr!!
She could have, and should have, surpassed Maddie. I think she is more charismatic and prettier.
5 is wrong kenzie also did Dancing barefoot it was lyrical but she forgot it
A lot of assumptions in this video
@@sesidonkor This video is entirely based off beliefs by the fandom, or actual facts proven/stated by the moms, the girls, or Abby :)
0:33 this is actually false Melissa said that Mackenzie was always supposed to be on the show.
@@faithsworld1318 oh really? it’s a theory I wasn’t sure was true, but loads of different researching channels on Dance Moms said this might be true
Hola ¿Como etas?
@@EmilyPe-no1276 I’m good! How are you?
@@cakeyeditss mui bein
@@cakeyeditss hello I’m learning English
@@EmilyPe-no1276 that’s great!! I’m trying to learn Spanish as well!
Maddie was the favorite for a reason
Same she's my fave girl too
Yeah like Melissa on dance moms is known for liying but i think the duo was the one time she actually wasnt liying, it was kinda obvious cause when she's caught in a lie she behaves differently either starts crying or getting defensive and cursing randomly, she didnt act that way she seemed calm
@@raeinwriting2474 yeah exactly. she seemed panicked but in a genuine way, as if she was scared either the moms or Abby would be mad at her, like she didn’t know what to do. whereas when she’s lying, she typically tries to leave the situation or starts cussing. however this time it seemed more like she kept trying to talk things out to make Kelly and Christi understand and try to reason with her
#10 well almost all of their close friends left the only one that stayed was Nia.
one thing I don’t agree with is you saying that kalani trash talked the zieglers in the reunion. the only person who trash talked them was christi and she was only talking about melissa. maybe give me specific examples when you can reply x ?
#14. Eh. Her story made no sense. Especially considering that Abby seemed to always prep Maddie for when she preformed.
@@ginax8307 it felt to me like it made sense personally. Maddie and Kalani went to the competition and preformed their duet there (which was confirmed real because theres videos and pictures of that competition), then they met the girls at the next actual competition they filmed at. they didn’t have time to stop, so they had to bring their costumes in their bags already. So Maddie told Chloe that they did it at the other competition, but they weren’t doing it there because her and Melissa genuinely thought they weren’t actually doing it there until Abby sprung it up and made them do it.
@@cakeyeditss you made me do some research! lol. Maddie and Kalani performed their duet on 11/22/2013
The Sheer competition (where Chloe + Paige competed theirs) was on 11/24/2013.
So it was really close together; it could’ve made sense for Maddie and Kalani to have the costumes, assuming they flew directly to Bronx, NY after NUVO.
They also could’ve went home directly after the competition in Pittsburg (11/22/23) and took a flight out the next morning, making it weird that they had costumes with them.
All I know is that someone (Abby, Melissa, and most likely Kira) knew about the duet. Because I don’t feel Abby would thrust this upon Maddie (we’ve seen her prepare Maddie for multiple competitions in one day, taking extra privates, missing school for dance, etc.), there’s reasonable evidence that she knew about the duet.
Sheer also has a 30 day competition registration deadline. I personally would’ve be surprised if this was waived for Abby-publicity.
Overall, I feel the timing suggests that Maddie knew and if she didn’t, Melissa, Abby, and Kira did.
And Abby was doing her audition convention on Saturday November 23, 2013. Not completely relevant, but is another anchor for a solid timeline.
Links:
facebook.com/events/lehman-center-for-the-performing-arts/sheer-talent-112413-nyc-special-edition-dance-moms-competition/1438832619669928/
dancemoms.fandom.com/wiki/Related_Competitions#Sheer_Talent,_2014_03/15,_Pittsburgh_(midseason_hiatus)
www.auditionsfree.com/2013/dance-moms-ultimate-dance-competition-reality-show/
@@ginax8307 tysm!! i totally respect that you did your research and everything! thanks so much for the links and information!
what i meant was not that Melissa and Maddie didn’t know, but rather they didn’t think it was going to happen. Melissa, especially, has a tendency to brush things off as she doesn’t believe they will actually happen. Abby had been hinting to it all week, so they both knew, I think they just both figured it wouldn’t actually happened, and if it would, it would be for the drama for the show.
I don’t think Maddie or Melissa were malicious about it either (especially Maddie). There’s even a scene in that episode where Melissa tells Abby that Paige and Chloe are going to win so there’s no need to put the duet in, so they were definitely pushing against it. Only problem is that Melissa is a spineless people-pleaser who submits to people in charge really really fast, so I think she was genuinely too scared and didn’t want an argument so she let it go.
Maddie just did whatever she was told by her teacher and her mom since she was a kid, so she couldn’t do much about it. And if she tried, she would’ve paid for it from Abby lol.
Honestly I don’t blame anyone in this fight but Abby. It would’ve never happened if Abby never decided to do this. Abby knows Melissa has a hard time standing up for what’s right, so she knows she can take advantage of her, resulting in being able to manipulate Maddie as well.