How Hasbro's Overprinting Affects Your LGS | Building a Refuge #7
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- čas přidán 21. 12. 2022
- In episode 7 of Building a Refuge, Jonathan talks about the store's new cooler and sign as well as the problem local game stores across the world are having with Hasbro printing too much products.
Timestamps
00:58 - Store Updates
03:58 - Overprinting
08:17 - Hasbro Fireside Chat
The compilation in the intro consists of clips from other Magic CZcamsrs. Below is the link to the full length video of each one (in order of appearance):
1) Sending a Message to WOTC While Supporting the LGS
by Jake and Joel are Magic
• Sending a Message to W...
2) The Unintended Consequences Of Selling 60 Fake Magic: The Gathering Cards For $1,000
by Tolarian Community College
• The Unintended Consequ...
3) NO ONE IS INVESTING IN SEALED PRODUCT ANYMORE
by Alpha Investments
• NO ONE IS INVESTING IN...
4) HASBROS FIRESIDE FAILURE
by The Magic Historian
• HASBROS FIRESIDE FAILU...
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Timestamps
00:58 - Store Updates
03:58 - Overprinting
08:17 - Hasbro Fireside Chat
The overprinting makes a floppy taco out of all of us.
Between this and MaRo’s “don’t listen to anything but what we tell you, Magic is fine, the internet is lies,” Hasbro doesn’t sell games, they sell gaslights.
The main problem is that their current model is going to be VERY profitable for them until LGSes start going under or cutting off MTG entirely.
Nah, they are dying on the vine as we speak. You’ll open your eyes one day and the magic community will be quite small indeed
It's starting to happen now 8 months later. Just as predicted.
everyone was saying there's too much product and too much types of them. noone was saying they were overprinting. then wizards made a statement about we're not overprinting. they seem to change the flow of conversations and news. very poor communication with old disgusting methods.
Well they are doing both. There are too many SKUs, too many variants, too many reprints, too much recycling of treatments, AND print runs are too high..
But make absolutely no mistake. Everything in the 'booster fun' era aside from Time Spiral: Remastered has been overprinted.
I recently was convinced to get back into Mtg after a 20 year hiatus, in 2019. I’ve since fallen out again, and it is for this exact issue. The overprinting is sickening. I’d prefer one set per year. This would provide WotC the time necessary to ensure it is incredibly well tuned and not broken, and it provides players and collectors the ability to actually acquire every card they want or need.
I'm with you. I think I'd tune out pretty quickly if it was only one a year, but it's gotta slow down. I work at an LGS and have spent a lot of time caring and learning about the game, and it's become hard for me to keep up, so I can't imagine what it's like for people who aren't in the game day in and day out
You don’t really want one set per year. You can say you want it all day long, but you don’t really want it. Variety and frequency is ideal for the consumer. And sales frequency is ideal for stability of the producer. You can make an argument that the current product offerings are too various and frequent, but you’re not going to convince any savvy person that one set per year is preferable or even good.
@@greglinsmythe3375 Don't tell people what they want. One set a year is fine.
Thanks, very interesting.
Thank you!
Cheers 🎉 support your LGS
7:31 - You should run drafts. Drafts are an excellent way for players to be "on the same level" and to get new cards. I think a store should have:
1) Free FNM, with WOTC FNM support. Standard, to make people but cards.
2) Modern, Pioneer as requested on weekends.
3) Commander Tournaments and Leagues
4) Draft, ideally $15 (about the cost of 4 boosters).
Consider how often a casual player opens a legend in a draft and goes on to make a commander deck with it. They won't do that with a legend in the case they need to pay $15 for, but if they draft a $15-50 legend every month, they'll be happy.
Another good, interesting video. Thanks!
My curiosity is the interesting thing that the consumer is not their customer. Unless they start doing more direct to consumer. Their core customer is the LGS and distribution companies. Also, I'd love to hear a break down of their definition of "print to demand"
It is a very interesting and well executed video, thanks
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you for another installment of Building a Refuge. I have all the feelings you do on the fireside chat and direction. I don't think Wizards see fall as many do, but like you I do see a reform coming for Wizards. By the way, I've opened Dom Remastered Jon get as much of this product as you can. Its by far my favorite set I've seen in such a long time, a Masters set but is as affordable as I've seen anything Wizards as put out it some time. Matter of fact, it is my belief if this was the Magic 30th product they put out, it would 1000% had the reverse effect of what happened with the Magic 30th Anny. But congrats on progressing the store and building it the correct way. There is no doubt in my mind Jon you will succeed my friend. Take care and have a great week.
They ruined Dom Remastered with overprinting. They also diluted the value of OG basic lands. This set would have been better if they'd had 1-2 foils per box, one SKU (like TSR) and short ran it. Then it would have been a good set.
@@Syne111 I agree with overprinting but that is over set these days. I loved the sylvan library before it's reprint I owned zero now have 8. So that is my love for Dom R. But overprinting is rampant and until people simply stop buying I guess they won't stop. While magic has staying power, cards are becoming less and less valuable. So let's hope for change in wizards direction
@@itsazombiethingsgaming1107 The level of overprinting is a form of hostility so ignorant that it teeters on dangerous.
I'm inclined to think that a "normal Standard Release product" should have 4 SKUs:
1) Draft Boosters
2) DRAFTABLE Collectors Boosters.
3) Bundle (ONE Bundle, not 2, for obvious reasons).
4) That Set's Special Product. 5 Commander/Brawl/Guild/Anthology decks, a REAL Jumpstart sideproduct, "board game", etc.
Do 4 Standard Sets a year, including 1 Core Set with 75% reprints, ONE Multiplayer set - I default to CL1-style, but a Battlebond2 or Conspiracy3 might be acceptable on off years, and then ONE "special" set - Masters reprints, or Modern Horizons-style. Then MAYBE One "Universes Beyond" expansion. I also think Universes Beyond needs to be it's own format, and remove all branded contend from Legacy, Vintage, and Modern for obvious reasons that should be obvious. And then do 5 Commander decks (full, real, with meaningful reprints) to serve as Flagship holiday gifts.
Their bottom line has to be hurting right now. They just wasted a ton of reprint equity. All they had to do was print less products this year and people would have been a lot happier and they probably would have made more money
Watching my single's collection lose 70% of it's value over the past 2 year's is as real as it gets! Don't expect to gain from collecting this garbage!
They took the value back that they sold to the consumer. They basically reneged on their end of the deal.
That’s why I stop collecting or buy anything post amonkhet you’re just throwing your money in dumpster fire
He hits me, but I know he is going to change…
"The sentiment of Magic needs to cut print runs to support our prices -- that's a misunderstanding of our business and our customers." It's the entire basis behind the rarity system. Certain common cards are extremely useful pretty much everywhere, but there's little value in them because they have a high print run. Maybe she misunderstood their business? If even one of them thought the way she claims, they wouldn't have doubled-down and introduced mythics.
They aren't going to have an honest conversation about how rarity sells product - That's too real.
FLGS: Please buy from us even if it's more expensive!
also FLGS: Why would I buy from my distributor when I could just go on amazon?!
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In Jonathan's defense, the Amazon prices are very low and a no-brainer for anyone looking to buy those products.
Let me tell you, as a small store owner, I am feeling Hasbro's bad decisions. The distributors don't pay for their mistakes...the LGS does. The LGS are the ones taking the full brunt when a product doesn't hit or sit right with the community (customers).
I made the choice last year to gradually move my budget away from MTG and WOTC.
It has been tough and the ride isn't over, but so far it has proven to be the best decision I ever made.
Flesh and Blood is really gooodd meeen
Can we the player can show the the real overprinting! Can someone can do that on Twitter?!
I'm fine with prices crashing. The longer it stays an investment game, the more likely I'll find the day when I don't see the difference between proxies and WotC-printed cards. I don't sell cards and I can buy any card I want. This game is just not the equivalent of life. Other purchases need to be made. While I agree that they can't possibly over-print a card, it very much seems like they're trying to compete with their past, like "don't buy their $80 card. Buy $400 worth of our cards and that $80 card might be in there."
Go ahead and proxy, but you're not entitled to cheap collector items. If you want to print the cards and sleeve them, nobody is stopping you.
Overprinting is 100% a problem and it's impacting everyone now.
Never expect anything from.wotc.over.decemeber.