Live LOOPING with CUBASE Pro & HOW to do it
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
- Hi all, a short video on how to perform using live looping in Cubase Pro (am sure it also works for Elements and Artist versions). I find this a great way of jamming and experimenting to come up with new ideas. You can keep overdubbing and build some really creative pieces - it really sparks the creativity. If you don't know how, watch this short vid and then give it a go!
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massive video, you have no idea how long I've had Cubase and this one video has opened my brain wide, thankyou for showing how damn easy it can be, all them other millions of video's don't show us you have done it basically in a couple of minutes, it's about time someone has the brains to show the simplest things, thanks and i have only watched the first 2.30 minutes,i'm saving this one, your a damn genius,
Thank you sir, glad you found it useful 🙂
@@splootyvision your welcome, all day long, and much appreciated you getting back to me so quickly , top dog for me for sure
Great video, I've been wanting to do more live recording of my synths instead of sequencing everything ahead of time. This so quickly and clearly explains what 10 other videos couldn't.
Great jam at the end too
The loop at the end get some Moby vibes I like it !
great
thank you the knowledge you provide is very useful for me, and I'm waiting for the next video
Thanks, very helpful!
Hi ! Beautiful video. Can you explain how you set up the midi channel for every instrument?
Hi - In terms of doing this in Cubase you can pretty much leave the MIDI channel input and output to 'any' for each of the MIDI tracks, no real need to assign the actual midi channel that the hardware synth is set to. All the synths are connected to the pc via usb and you just choose the relevant instrument as your input/output for each midi track you set up. Hope that helps 🙂
thank you ! also, do u use some external controller for cubase ? if yes, witch one ? you could do a video ! :D thank you so much.
@@davideamadei3614 Yes, the little controller you see me using on the desk near the end of the video is a Korg NanoKontrol 2. It’s got transport buttons and 8 tracks/faders each with solo, mute and record buttons so I can flick between tracks etc without using a mouse on screen, keep meaning to do a video on it so thanks for reminding me. I also have an FCB1010 pedal board that is also set up to remotely control Cubase with my feet!, I do have a video on that one on my channel 🙂
@@splootyvision thank you very very much for answer !
Hi, great video!... Is there any way to get the things in order after doing the loop live session?... I see everything sums and stays in the same place... I mean, if I want to export the session, I want to export it in the order I recorded it, or maybe clear or edit some takes (add effects)
@@carcamovmusic Yep, you certainly can. You can move the tracks around, copy and paste them to extend the loop, edit midi notes add effects etc. Pretty much do whatever you want once you’ve recorded all the parts. Hope that helps 🙂
cool, but how do i hear the click without anyone else hearing the click? its been bugging me for ages.
@@100roberthenry Hi, I believe the trick is to use the ‘Control Room’ (only available if you have Cubase Pro)
‘The Control Room allows you to divide the studio environment into the performing area (studio) and the engineer/producer area (control room)’
Using control room you should be able to direct the click to say your headphones only, so that it doesn’t appear in the main mix that your listeners are hearing. Tbh I’ve not really used Control Room, so prob something to investigate further 🙂
Very clear and concise explanation, thank you very much! :)
I imagine this would work with Ableton just as well?
Hey there, not too familiar with Ableton, but I think the overall theory is pretty much the same - looked at a couple of vids on Ableton and it seems pretty similar logic.
Thanks for the video, does this only work for midi? Can I do audio recordings like this? How do you have so many midi channels connected at once?
Yep can do with audio as well, have copy pasted a reply I gave to someone else on the same subject which also contains a link to someone else doing a youtube video which demonstrates the sort of thing you may be after doing. PS Not sure on the question on the midi channels, you can have umlimited midi tracks in cubase pro (lower versions may be limited to 64 or 128 I believe) and there are 16 MIDI channels so can have 16 instruments all on different MIDI channels.
Anyhow, for the audio looping..........Pretty similar set up to what I showed. You'd need to set up an audio track for each of the instrument / vocal layers and then set the loop length and activate the cycle function as I did. Hit record on the first track and perform your loop. Just before the first loop ends you need to arm the second track (otherwise the first track will then start overdubbing) and record your second vocal/instrument. Continue this process for as many tracks as you have and once its built up you can then solo and mute sections in and out as needed. Tbh for all this to work you really need either a touch screen, or you could use the avid control app on an ipad (I have a video on that), or something like a Korg Nanokontrol - so that all the transport buttons are easily and quickly accessible. Heres a link to a video of someone doing I believe exactly the sought of thing you are tring to achieve.
czcams.com/video/3RooY072DqY/video.html
@@splootyvision Thanks for the detailed explaination!
Which brand are your keyboard stands?
Hi there, there’s 2 ‘Stagg’ two tier stands and the 3rd layer on the left is actually a laptop stand off Amazon that is clamped to the window sill with a shelf board on it 🙂 The Matrixbrute etc at the back sits on some old modified office furniture with a shelf above for the Seaboard.
Thank you so much! Just one more Question, that you could maybe help me with. In the loop you're playing at the end, you are using, the same instrument (your black piano) for two different sounds. How is it you re not automatically triggering, the midi Track, you used right before? Is it possible to somehow live loop different tracks with the same instrument, without triggering all the tracks at once?
I hope you get what I mean. I really wanne get into live looping, but I just dont have the money for several different instruments to route the tracks.
Hi there the piano sound from the black keyboard on the bottom is actually the same piano sound just sounds a little different as first time round the loop I was playing chords lower down the register and second time round the melody is played over the top, just higher up the keys. Basically you can record a loop and then as that loop plays back just play more notes over the top and it effectively adds them to the loop. Evidently in this example I’m using multiple instruments; first the drums and cymbals from the Spark Drum machine, then the bass from the System 1, the piano chords from the Yamaha MOX, then piano melody (same sound) from the Yamaha MOX, then a synth pad from the Matrixbrute at the back, a synth melody from the Deepmind 12 and then finally a sort of synth brass sound using the white Keylab midi keyboard which is triggering a VST (something from the Arturia V Collection if I recall). If you wanted to do this but with just one keyboard there are a couple of ways you could do that. One would be using VST instruments and just set up all the instruments/sounds you want to use and then arm/disarm each of them as you record. I.e arm the record button on the first track and record your melody, then disarm it and arm the next one - the first one will continue to play and the second one will now record alongside it - then disarm this second track and move to the 3rd etc etc. Alternatively you could do this using just the voices on one keyboard, but takes a bit more dexterity and requires to record as ‘Audio’ tracks instead of MIDI. For example set up 4 AUDIO tracks, arm the first track to record and play your loop, then disarm that track, arm the second track AND change the sound on the keyboard, then play the second loop with the new voice, repeat for as many tracks as you want. The key to all of this is that each ‘sound’ has to be on a different track (whether that be MIDI or AUDIO) and then you can layer as many tracks as you want 🙂. Hope that helps, Cheers.
How do you do it with Software Instruments?
Pretty much the same. Set up as many VST tracks as you need with the relevant instruments/sounds. Set the length of the loop as in the video. Then just play each instrument at a time to build the loop. I would assume if using VSTs that will just be triggering them all from the same midi keyboard, so only difference hear would be rather than arming all tracks to record at the same time; you would only arm the track you want to record and once you've got that loop going disarm it and arm the next instrument. Hope that makes sense 🙂
Hey! Can I loop my guitar?
Yes, you certainly can. Pretty much the same principle. Just set up as many audio tracks as you want to loop and then switch between them. So for example arm the first track and strum a chord loop for the length loop you've set and then at the end of the loop switch to the next track and record another loop over the top of the first. The key thing is each loop has to be on a different track in Cubase, otherwise as it loops round you'll just record over what you've just played. It takes a bit of dexterity of practice if you're looking for a smooth live performance (and if that's the goal probably better with a dedicated loop pedal/station). Tbh I pretty much use it for just jamming to build up ideas that may use later to form a song.
(PS you could possibly use a midi foot pedal to switch between tracks in Cubase, something I haven't tried but might give a go 🙂)
@@splootyvision Thanks a lot 🖤
Can something like this be done with normal audio tracks? I'm looking to see if it's possible to use cubase as one of those loopstations people use to layer multiple vocals/physical instruments on top of each other in a live performance. Like let's say i have 5 audio tracks, on the first loop it records to the first one, second loop the first one is simply played back but you're recording to the second one, etc. From your knowledge is something like this possible?
In theory yes, but I would say for live performing you’d probably be better with a dedicated loop machine, something like a Boss RC-505. I really just use Cubase like this in the studio to jam and build up ideas.
@@splootyvision For my purposes cubase is good enough ;p Any explanation on how to do something like it?
@@akis857 Pretty similar set up to what I showed. You'd need to set up an audio track for each of the instrument / vocal layers and then set the loop length and activate the cycle function as I did. Hit record on the first track and perform your loop. Just before the first loop ends you need to arm the second track (otherwise the first track will then start overdubbing) and record your second vocal/instrument. Continue this process for as many tracks as you have and once its built up you can then solo and mute sections in and out as needed. Tbh for all this to work you really need either a touch screen, or you could use the avid control app on an ipad (I have a video on that), or something like a Korg Nanokontrol - so that all the transport buttons are easily and quickly accessible. Heres a link to a video of someone doing I believe exactly the sought of thing you are tring to achieve.
czcams.com/video/3RooY072DqY/video.html
Cheers,
@@splootyvision Thanks, that's indeed what I'm trying to do. Unfortunately I was hoping there'd be a way to do that without having to manually arm the tracks, but I guess as you mentioned cubase is a recording software not a looper and there's not any recording value in what im looking for so I gotta find workarounds
@@akis857 If you’ve got an iPad Id recommend the Avid Control app I mentioned which you can use to remotely control Cubase over wifi - much easier when looping than having to use a mouse etc.
What do you do if you make a mistake, play a wrong note in a loop? Do you just open the editor and fix it? Then carry on with next loops?
Yep, pretty much. You can just leave the loop playing, go in and edit it and then move on 🙂
What controler do you use at 5:33 ?
It’s a Korg Nanokontrol 2, small little midi controller can use to control your DAW. It’s got transport buttons, solo, mute, record, faders and knobs. In the video I’m basically using it to mute individual tracks and then bring them back in again. I also use a more comprehensive DAW controller on my iPAD called AVID Control (there’s a vid about it on the channel).
Thanks for sharing. Would be much more interesting to see how one can control all tracks and virtual instruments from a single midi controller. Looks like a waste of hardware to use so many physical devices and space for such simple arrangement.
Indeed that is entirely possible, since making this video I have got a Keystep37 midi controller which allows me to do just that. From it I can control all my hardware synths from one keyboard and change between them on the fly, also using it to control VSTs. Got a couple of other videos on the channel that demonstrate the possibilities and controlling it all through midi connections. Of course all this could be done without any hardware synths and just a midi controller and VSTs.
Great video. But is it possible to print what you've looped??
Hi, suppose depends what you mean by print. Predominantly just use it to build up ideas, can then break these up and cut and paste these into a longer ‘song’ and print to audio if that’s what you mean. Everything is being recorded in Cubase as it’s played so I think the answer is Yes. Apologies if misunderstood the question.
Hi, thanks for the video. I would like to know how to record the live looping using the same PC (I don't have another), I'm talking about the audio track, as the video I can take it with my camera or phone and later on join it with the audio track during the video edition, but I'm new with Cubase 12 and don't know how to record if I'm using it at the same time (maybe something like a second project opened at the same time in the background ¿? ). Hope you can help me to find a way. Cheers!
Hi there, as far as I'm aware you can only have one project active at a time in cubase. So......easiest options would be either 1. Download and use Audacity (its free and is effectively a very simple daw/audio recorder). You can then play/perform your loop in cubase and record the live audio into Audacity which you can then export out as a wave or mp3 file. Or, 2. Record the audio and your camera footage at the same time into OBS (again it's free). The good thing with OBS is you don't then have to sync the audio and video footage later as it's all recorded together in one place :-). OBS is how I recorded this video.
PS There's some other vids on my channel about recording using OBS i.e. how to stream the audio from your DAW into OBS, how to deal with sync issues between audio and video, and how to set up cameras (or multiple cameras) in OBS. If you've got a phone and a camera you could link them both to OBS and capture video footage from different angles at the same time :-) all automatically synced with the music you are playing.
@@splootyvision Wow! Thank you so much for your help, OBS sounds like the software I've been looking for!!! When I started to record, I thought there would be a way to record audio and video simultaneously, but in all my attempts I had sync problems due to latency, and when I asked other people, they said that the only way was to record separately and join it in a video editor. NOW YOU SHOWED ME THE LIGHT!!! THANK YOUUUUUU. I'm going straight to your OBS video to learn about it. Have a wonderful day good man :)
Glad I could help 🙂, any issues or questions let me know and I’ll see if I can help. Tbh my videos cover a few of the main specifics, but there’s loads of other vids out there on how to set OBS up from scratch etc if you have an issues. Cheers and enjoy 🙂
dude, for some strange reason, when i record everything at once like you. All the instruments are recorded and not one by one as you do.
Hi there, have you set each of the instruments set up as audio tracks? If so then yep everything will get recorded to each track (unless you only 'arm' one track at a time to record). You'll see in the video I've got them set up as instrument (VST) tracks or midi tracks. The drums are a VST, the MOX is set up as a VST and the other hardware synths are set up as midi tracks. It can be done as audio tracks but as say you have to arm/disarm the record button on each track as it loops round, so only one active at a time. However with midi or vst tracks you can just arm them all and let it keep looping round. Hope that made sense? :-)