Congratulations you got it =) I totally thought of a missed opportunity should’ve been Chicago I’m a man... there’s two more packerds in the pipeline perhaps
@@What.its.like. Dude, You gotta go to Detroit! The Packard plant is being torn down and it probably should be for Detroit's well-being, but for cars guys like you and me, it's a must see!
On carburettors leaking onto the exhaust, it was the reason cars pre about 1932 used updraught carburettors, so that the carburettor was below the exhaust. But technology improved, carbs leaked less, so downdraught became the norm. If a downdraught carburettor were to flood, generally the fuel would run into the inlet manifold, and cars of this era commonly ran a drain tube from the inlet manifold to the bottom of the motor to drain such leaks. On running inlet and exhaust ports on different sides of the motor, cars in the very early days used a T head, which favoured inlet and exhaust on opposite sides. It's hard to do on a flathead (L head) however. Then there is the F head engine, which commonly does the opposite sides thing. Finally there are overhead valves, which can be designed either way. But an advantage of the manifolds on the same side is that the exhaust manifold can keep the inlet manifold warm, which has many advantages.
Thank you so much for taking the time to explain that.. I always wondered why they put everything on one side could have put intake on one side and exhaust on the other and some engines didn’t have that but the majority they were all on one side.
Anyone lucky enough to be in this beauty, couldn't possibly feel anything remotely close to common, I would imagine! This is truly is a work of art! 🤩 Great video! 😎👍
Thank you so much.. I want to drive one next year I really wanted to drive a Packard this year but they’re few and far between here.. that’s like a Bucket list thing for me. I’ve always been intrigued by their transmission they were one of the first companies to come up with a synchromesh unit I wasn’t able to find this out but a lot of people don’t know that the grill is thermostatically controlled but I don’t know if it’s thermostatically controlled on the 115 series I think it’s on super eight and 12s and that’s why I left that information out.. but the grill opens and closes depending on if the engine is at running temperature it closes and allows the air to go around it rather than through it which cuts down on drag.
I would love to own this car one day 1935 to 1941 is my favorite era of Packard in my opinion they didn’t make a bad body style.. 40 darrins are stunning well they all are even the sedans look great.
2 items of interest - the hood ornament is not a swan it is a cormorant, second - Packard was ahead of its time in the placement of the 6 volt battery - it is isolated away from the elements under the front seat. Your overall presentation was excellent !!!!
Thank you so much for the corrections I would love to drive one next year I always wondered what it was like to drive a Packard from this era.. it’s so hard to believe that this Packard was only maybe 100 or $200 more than a Ford.. I was thinking if I could go back in time I would probably buy this car but I don’t know if I would single this car out if I was back in the 30s it would all depend on how much money I had and what my options were.. =)
What a beautiful car, Jay! Thank you for featuring it. FYI, that woodgrain is actually a transfer on metal, which was very common on cars of this era (in different woodgrain patterns, of course). Stable, durable plastics had yet to be developed until after World War II, really.
They were the unsung hero of wwII Packard could never adjust to the changing market after World War II and it just sucks like Packard before the war and Packard after the war are two totally different companies Packard after the war was almost like somebody that was super lost.. it would’ve been really cool because they had all of the towing what if they made a smaller Merlin V 12 because that’s a huge engine and they put it in cars it could’ve been totally different but who knows =)
I thought it was interesting that Studebaker made army trucks that helped the allies win the war especially the Soviet Union. But after world war 2 Studebaker struggled to acclimate to peace time and they finally went under in the early 1960s. Same with Packard.
They both were here since the beginning packard was the first company to do a lot of automotive innovations such as the first car to use a steering wheel as opposed to a tiller.. and studebaker made wagons before cars both companies lost their way after the war
@@glennso47 - I was never a huge Studebaker fan, but they admittedly had a lot of innovative ideas. But by the early 60’s, they didn’t have the resources to exploit their engineering advances.
I wasn’t lying when I said that I would Drive this every day if I had the opportunity to.. I would never lose it in a parking lot that’s one of the things I love about my 52 Chevy truck anytime I drive that I never lose it in the parking lot.. could you imagine driving a Packard everywhere people would think that I don’t know what people would think I need to do a video like that in the summertime what it’s like to drive a Packard =) I’m glad I’m not the only one that would drive this daily
From 1927 to 1940, Cadillac had the LaSalle brand which competed with the cheaper Packards. Packard later introduced the Clipper line for entry level. From 1926, even the Packard 6 had a roller cam. I had a customer with 2 1926 6-cyl Packards. It's funny how engines of today with roller cams are thought to be revolutionary and advanced. Just as the modulated displacement engines which Cadillac introduced in 1981. The steering wheels on older car, not just because bigger is better, but because you needed them for leverage when they didn't have power steering. Had you started this car, if the engine was in tune and it had the correct exhaust system, you would have been blown away. These 6's are glassy smooth and silent. The flywheel/clutch assy. weights 50-100 pounds. About the only way you can tell that the engine is running is a low put-put coming from the tail pipe at idle. Many inline 4's, 6's and 8's had intake and exhaust manifolds together, with many modern engines having them bolted together for cold-weather and cold-start heat transfer. Leaking carbs weren't usually a problem as the exhaust manifolds didn't get that hot. What has been a problem for fire are engines like V8's and ignition wires/distributors on top of the engines. Gasoline will usually evaporate, but in a gaseous state is the most volatile. An ignition spark can cause a nasty fire. I was working on a Jaguar XJS and the top of the V12 burst into flames once! We had to have the hood repainted. If you run across a car which is burned up, it started with a gasoline fire like this if it didn't start from bad wiring.
I wanna end up with this car eventually not this exact car I’d even take the sedan model.. I wonder how economical the six is I couldn’t find any 0 to 60 times or gas mileage or any of that stuff
A great video about a beautiful car. I've always loved Packards. This model clearly shows that Packard could design a low end model that exudes style and grace. I love the way you take time to point out the styling touches on these classics. IMO American auto designers during the 30's knew what real style was. Once again Jay, thanks for posting these great videos.
Me too I would drive this every day if it was mine it Hass to get somewhat decent gas mileage it’s only a six cylinder flathead flatheads got decent gas mileage from what I was told=)
Great video! Those Packard Sixes were very well built and reliable cars. The trim inside is simulated woodgrain, however the Super Eights and especially the Twelves have real wood.
I would totally take this home with me I was thinking just now what body style would fit my needs perfectly it would either have to be the four-door sedan with a suicide sorry “coach” doors or the touring sedan would work or The coupe with the rumble seat.. just for giggles I’ve been looking one 15s are hard to come by you can find a 120 all are easier than you can find a 115.. , let’s not forget the wagon the wagons are really cool but the wagons are really expensive you can almost get a bottom of the barrel super eight for what the wagons are going for.. and the convertibles you can forget about it those are getting really expensive for a six cylinder Packard that most of the packard community doesn’t really much care for..
Thank you so much. =) i’m so happy at how far this channel has come production has definitely improved as well as presentation, honestly it wouldn’t be anywhere near where it’s at without you guys. =)
If I had the money I would take this car home and I would drive it every day because at six cylinder in it so it probably gets decent gas mileage.. and if it didn’t I would install overdrive or put a different rear ended so it did so I could drive it every day =)
@@What.its.like. Thats what I did with my 88 F250. I posted a YT video of my F250 in the comment section of another one of your videos. If you want to review that truck, you are welcome to. I installed a Gearvendors unit. So, instead of 3 forward speeds, its a 6 speed automatic.
It's times like this, that I wish that my grandfather had given me his 1938 Cadillac....what a ride that would've been! 😥😎 What stylish, beautiful car....😍🥰
1938 Cadillac is a stellar looking car as well they had lots of Cadillacs there I wanted to shoot a couple of them I just ran out of time.. they are open on Wednesday for 12 hours I’m gonna try to go there on a Wednesday next time I’d love to go back at the end of December and maybe maybe make it like a once a month thing that would be really cool going down or is it five hours away and that equates for a really long day.. but totally worth it =)
I’ve always wondered how smooth they are is it like driving like riding on a cloud kind of feel when you shift gears does it click into gear my 52 truck is like that when I shift gears it clicks and it’s got those straight cut gears so when you’re going first second or third the transmission whines its almost sounds like a super charger but it’s not.. I love the sound smells experiences of these vintage cars it makes you part of the driving experience same can’t be said about the new cars
I love that place it’s epic, all of the staff are extremely great. I’ve been there twice and I still haven’t saw everything there was to see.. i’m going to try to go back once a month I’m glad that you like that I point out all the details a lot of times these cars get featured and everything got kind of sore it gets glossed over so I wanna make it a point to cover as much as possible especially about design I love doing the shots of the interior in the dash because a lot of times The dashboards look epic but on various other channels they simply don’t show the dash in detail
How could anyone have imagined this would diminish Packard's preeminence as the premium American luxury car maker? The One-Twenty and 115-C models may have carried a lower price, but you got more car than any of the comparably priced competition gave you.
Damn, Jay !! Beautiful car. When I was a young man, I worked on Packards, and admired their quality and beauty, but they were above my personal price range. If I had that car today, like you, it would be a daily driver …
As a kid, I remember all the old cars had a single switch on the passenger side for the dome light. Many cars also had the passenger door keyed (so you could get into a locked car), but no key on the driver side. I think it was because you were supposed to get in from the sidewalk side, not the "street" side.
My 52 Chevy truck is like that that’s why I show the glove box segment because it’s easy to lock stuff inside the glove box without locking the whole entire car or truck
ONE MORE THING ... My dad bought a used 1962 Comet from a neighbor. It had a dome light, but the dome light didn't come on when you opened the doors (that was an option, and this was a bare-bones Comet); there was no switch by the passenger door ... nor any door. One day my dad accidentally stumbled on it ... turn the headlight knob (generally used to adjust the dash light brightness), turn this knob all the way left, past a small detent, and _voilà_ let there be light!
Truck is the same way dome light only works when it is flipped on and off.. something I just thought of Ford (not that I can think of) did the vents I’m thinking of muscle car era in the foot wells Chevy did
The Packard 120 was a medium-priced car introduced by Packard in 1935. It was not a true luxury car but it was necessary to keep the company going (total 1934 Packard sales were only about 5,000 cars). Then Packard management hired a manufacturing executive from General Motors who thought Packard needed an even cheaper car (the 1937 Packard Six). Sales were initially very strong for that car ...but a short recession in 1938 devastated the entire auto industry until all the automakers got the lucrative Dept. of Defense contracts around 1939/1940. The 1937 Packard Six was priced similar to a Pontiac...below the respected Packard 120 (Packard kept changing the model names to confuse the public, LOL). But the 1937 Packard Six was too down market...it looked like the senior Packards...but it hurt the company's image with the wealthy. Packard was once an esteemed luxury car maker...whose management made serious marketing errors (starting with the 1937 Packard Six). The wealthy clientele that Packard once had were moving to buy the more prestigious Cadillacs (who didn't make cheap cars). Packard still made outstanding luxury cars in the late 1930s...but they weren't as popular anymore.
Thank you so much for explaining for taking the time and explaining all of that there’s two sides to it they needed a cheaper car to sell cars but I get where you’re coming from it did damage Packards image of being an exquisite company they were the last one of the three p’s to fade, The other two are Pierce arrow and peerless.. by making this car I believe that bought them some time I honestly believe the packer died was one of World War II casualties because after the war they couldn’t find their way.. and frankly they were never the same company I don’t believe Packard made a bad car between 1935 and 1941.. even the sedans look good. Don’t even get me started on the 40 Darren that’s a master piece.. i’ve never seen one in person only and pictures and video and man does that car look sharp.. I’m going to look for one next year.. would love to drive a packard next year as well that would be awesome =) I always wondered what they drove like if it’s like riding on a cloud how the clutch and shift action works. Like does it click into gear and what it’s road manners are like. =)
@@What.its.like. Packard really did not need to make the cheap Six to survive the Great Depression. What Packard really needed at that time was to merge with another independent automaker (eventually they merged with Studebaker in the early 1950s, which was probably the worst automaker to merge with at that time). The Packard Six (and 120) were decent cars for the money...but not luxury cars (where image is everything).
Totally agree Studebaker was the worst company to merge with but I always compare the Studebaker and Packard merger to the Sears and Kmart merger. But realistically there wasn’t anybody left to merge with everybody was gone there was talks of them merging with Hudson and Nash and go under the AMC umbrella but once George mason died unexpectedly all of those talks were just talks..
@@What.its.like. The reason that Studebaker/Packard did not merge with Hudson/Nash was mostly due to the incompatibility of the CEOs..they could not agree on the terms of a merger. I have never driven a car from the 1930s or 1940s. From what I understand, it is more arduous because there is no power steering/brakes. Also, the driver sits far back from the front axle..so the large steering wheel has to be turned earlier when changing direction.
The intake and exhaust manifolds on the same side of an engine were common on a flathead engine because of the valve train configuration. It was the only way for it to work because there was only one camshaft in the block along with the valves which were also in the engine block.
Hey J...you should carry around a little magnet. On that "Wood Trim" you could put a magnet on it and see if it sticks. If it does, then it's stamped metal and painted to look like wood.
The Packard 12 is for the rear passenger experience, the Packard 6 is for the driver experience, given neither have power steering, I would go for a the 6 as my daily driver.
I want one so bad I’d drive it everywhere the cool thing about the six is people who don’t know packard will still think it’s a more upscale car What’s crazy is the price that these go for now..
Packard - from awesome to a sad, sad demise in 1959. Packard merged with Studebaker in 1953 & formed the Studebaker-Packard Corporation. The merger was intended to be temporary while it became a merger with (AMC). Disagreements among the firms' executives stopped the consolidation with AMC, Studebaker-Packard remained a separate company. The Packard brand was phased out in 1959 with declining sales of the Studebaker-built 1957 and 1958 Packards. In other news: The assembly plant for the Packard brand, has been deteriorating for 68 years. Demolition of the Packard automotive plant in Detroit, a relic left over from the 1950s, began Sep 30, 2022 after years in development limbo. This car is awesome - - OK stop drooling Jay! Good review as always. Carb placement? After a long time in the auto business, could a fire happen sure, but in all my years never saw it happen. Manifold temps run 250 to about 800 degrees. It takes about 500 degrees for liquid gasoline to self ignite. Now vapors? Yes, but gasoline vapors are heavier than air. Also don't forget air is moving over and around the engine from the fan. Could it happen? Sure but not all that likely. PS it's a Cormorant not a Swan.
Thank you so much for all of that insight as well as information I always compare the Studebaker/Packard merger as a series Kmart merger two wrongs don’t always make a right =) Curious does the 115 grill operate I couldn’t find anything anywhere I don’t know if it was a feature reserved for the senior models only like the super eight and the 12 this era of Packard, had those grills that were thermostatically controlled where the louvers inside the grills would close once the engine got up to temperature making it more aerodynamic or maybe not so much aerodynamic but it would reduce drag because the air would go through the grill creating drag instead going around the grill but I couldn’t find anything saying that it had it or that it didn’t have it I would just assume that it didn’t have it because of the price point.
@@What.its.like. 1937 120Cs and 115Cs do not use the moveable grille bars. They use a normal thermostat. I think they started using it in the lower models in 1938. Know I'm late but the group was the Mammas and Pappas.
Thank you so much For getting back to me on that I was always curious I’m not sure when they started it though they started it early 30s it was a super cool feature Packard wasn’t the only one that did it to my knowledge I think peerless and Pierce arrow also had that feature but I’m not 100% sure on that.. I saw a stellar peers arrow at the Classic Automall but I ran out of time and wasn’t able to feature it it’s on the list for next time if it’s still there
I’ve been looking for one they’re still affordable I found one for 11 grand yesterday .. and then I found a super eight but it’s in Washington state for 44 grand and I was like man if I had $44,000 I would buy that in a heartbeat.. A lot of people don’t know what they have the crazy thing is is some of the sixes are almost untouchable, I also found a Nash Metropolitan for about five grand and I was like man I really want that but I don’t have $5000 for a car right now.. which sucks it’s a lot closer
thats a great car Justin, the styling is impeccable 👍 I agree with you about driving it every day. by the way does it have a radio? I think I missed it.
Yeah it’s in a super weird location it’s right above the lighter it’s that weird looking tiny looking box it almost looks like a 1930s model a Speedometer that is the radio.. The face is super small but I’m sure it has all kinds of tubes behind it =)
Nice Jay, I get into the older cars of the 30s and 40s. Post-war is when things began to really change, I would guess that as a Packard, she will have leather and wood trim?
I think leather was reserved for the higher trim models like the super eight 8 and 12 series.. if you get a chance look up 1937 Packard 12 they are do you think this car is nice that’s like a whole other world it’s like, it’s right up there with Duesenberg Rolls-Royce in a lot of ways it’s better.
My Dad was telling me the Packard 6 really upset the more "Well To Do" Packard buyers because "the common man" could buy one. It would be as if Cadillac made the same car, but one had a V8 under the hood and another had a 4-banger.
The 110s and 120s saved Packard during the 1930s, no question. But Packard didn’t know how or just couldn’t make a “cheap” car. The profit margins on the Jr cars were not enough to grow the company. The war years saw Packard’s bottom line grow when making Merlin engines, but the company was hammered for “profiteering” at the end of the war, forcing it to return millions to the Govt. (Did that happen to Ford or GM?)
Thank you out of all of the car is that a review this year this is the one that I would take home with me number one spot.. 2023 is going to be awesome =) 1946 Desoto coming tomorrow
Even in their attempts to market a lower priced, mainstream car model, the Packard workmanship & quality control remained top drawer if somewhat conservative. However the"Jr" Packard concept may've backfired on them.😢
It’s crazy to think Packard even built this car considering what Packard was as a brand they made it affordable car for the masses I guess Tesla’s kind of sort of doing the same thing with the model three even though the model three isn’t as cheap as they originally wanted it to be..
Often with inline engines the intake and exhaust manafolds were tied together in the middle. With my 41 Chevy there was a temperature controlled flapper that let hot exhaust gases up under the carburetor to help vaporize the gasoline when the engine was cold.
Very very gorgeous! i had owned at one time a '28 Packard, I can't remember if it was a Roadster or Doc's Coupe. but it was very rare with less than 50 left. Hence why i sold it too someone who had the rescoures to restore it. Anyways. This, I love. Everything about!!! The best thing IMO is that Gigantic Steering wheels they had and The Carburators Oil Bath filters. They did so well. Loving the videos so far, Could we see a feature on the Franklin Air cooled cars, Or durants? Thanks.
I wanted to hit a Franklin all year I know a guy who has four orfive of them but I didn’t see him all year.. I am going to do Franklin we were going to go down that rabbit hole together but it will be probably next year. I want to go hard and heavy into the 30s cars covered Jordan, cord Auburn, Duesenberg, Pierce arrow, peerless and definitely want to feature more Packards the goal is to cover all the cars that never really got covered as well as do some cars that didn’t get covered or I want this to be a home of the orphan cars and it seems like the viewer base does as well =) Glad you dig the channel there’s two more Packers in the pipeline they just aren’t as old as this one unfortunately still cool cars it’s just packard lost there way after World War II in my opinion
@@What.its.like. Hey, thanks for the reply. That is super cool and quite rare i would say seeing how Obscure those Franklins are. Not an Ordinary type of collector car. I would love to find and own one but well out Here in Michigan there isn't many options. Anyways, I might have a friend who i can hook you up with for those 20s and 30s cars. let me know, maybe i can connect with you on facebook. He's got some contacts for 30s and 40s Mercedes too.
If your ever close to the Gilmore auto museum which is in Hickory corners Michigan go they have a whole room for Franklins morning I should say it’s set up like a dealership that place is absolutely incredible it’s one of the best museums that I’ve ever gone to
Every time I go to Classic auto mall that is my favorite car there that is still there it’s crazy how much these things cost though you could get a Packard 120 for cheaper than these are going for..
For a host of reasons Packard struggled in the 'Post-War' period and really never did regain its Pre-War status. It was a really sad it reached the end... I think in '59?
1956 saw the last true Packard. And they were fabulous vehicles in ‘56, but the company was on life support by then. Truly sad end of a company driven into the ground by mismanagement and poor quality during the Korean War years (too many warranty issues).
I love these old cars, but the tinkerer in me just wants to put a more modern drivetrain while keeping the look and interior of its original appearance. I’m in the process of doing that very thing with a 69 Mustang Fastback. Hoping to have it done by next summer. Thanks again for sharing all these classics.
You’re making me feel old as hell saying that a ‘69 Mustang doesn’t have a “modern drivetrain” … Yeah, newer cars are more sophisticated, but by the late 60’s, cars ran quite well.
@@sking2173 I meant like all around disc brakes, AC, and a Holley EFI. Maybe in another decade I’ll throw in a Toyota V8 from the 90s for shits and giggles. It was a one owner no accident plain Jane 302 fastback. Did have PS which was it. Dad started it but I’m finishing it for him and me. This will be my second as my first was a 65 coupe I drove out of HS till I sold it after the army. Modern to me isn’t the same as current. I’m pushing 50.
New cars may have Technology that that makes them sophisticated, The Classic Cars you as the driver it’s a different experience I’ve driven lots of new cars and the performance is great but all the traction control and stuff you can’t get it sideways I should say it’s really hard to get them sideways whereas the old cars you can get them sideways with very little effort at all.. with the classics there wasn’t traction control to save you you had to know how to drive and I believe that’s why a lot of people now can’t drive.. just an opinion tho
I’ve heard mixed things.. The early 50s is not my favorite your era of Packard I do realize yours was a 39 but I had a friend who had a grandpa who had a 52 Packard and I’m sure it’s still down there in the basement but I kid you not if you shot some ether in it that thing and it didn’t start for 20 years he could fire it up and it would run I wrote it at one time the seats needed to be redone it felt like you were sitting in beanbag chairs.. but it was silk smooth even with a miss
As much as I hate engine swaps in a Packard that would be a fitting engine swap that if the Packard six went I don’t think I would mind seeing a 250 Chevy in there because it’s not a V-8 I really want to build a car for the channel next year just to prove that you don’t need to spend 100 grand to build a car custom like a ground up car like I wanna find like a 30s chassis and build my own car in the sense of like a vintage prewar race car something similar to that boattail design no fenders possibly no lights I honestly think if you were doing it on a budget it won’t cost any more than $5000 that would be the projected price point my wife already told me no but I’m going to see if there is a way to convince her otherwise.. she was like you don’t have enough power for the stuff you have going on now how the hell are you going to build a car and I was like a little bit at a time.. lol I’m a dreamer she’s a realist and sometimes as you can guess we’ll just leave it at that =)
That’s one of the negatives that there are no coat hooks. 😢The gauges are where the radio should be. The air filter looks like an oil bath air filter like a lot of older cars had.
The oil-bath air filter was amazingly effective for engines of “the day”. VW used them up through the 70’s. It was amazing the sludge you’d find in the bottom of those things after 5000 miles. They actually worked !!
Speaking of twin sixes. At one time in the 1960s and early seventies GMC trucks had some models that had twin six engines. I am not sure if the models were heavy duty ones or not. Does anyone recall? Thanks.
Do you ever update your videos to let viewers know if a car has sold and is no longer available and the video is kept to inform about the particular make/model car?
I don’t work for any of these dealerships I’m just a freelancer.. I go to different dealerships and showcase their cars while reviewing them What car are you interested in I’ll look and see if it’s still available can also link all of the links are in the descriptions which will take you to the cars that are for sale This channel tells what the cars were advertised as specs and show the cars fir what they are like your looking into buying these cars just like how other do reviews for new cars. It’s the same premise but with classic cars
The implication of the advertisement, back in that time, seems so rude today..."A Packard for the Common man"!..I am sure that there were--just like now--lots of "common men" who owned expensive cars...But judging people by their material goods was very common, back then...and still exists.
@@What.its.like. - Yeah, I saw that post … It reminded me of Alan Harper (Two and a Half Men) correcting everyone on the pronunciation of Porsche (Porsh-AH). Of course, any fan of that show knows what an anal-retentive a-hole Alan was …
That was a different guy I was trying to look for the other commentor CZcams has an assistant it’s almost like a net anything that derogatory ends up into a different section and this comment ended up into a different section it’s filtered out comment section it’s weird I responded those too.. I have a funny segment at the end of the year beach boys sing Cherry Cherry coupe Little deuce Coupe, I often wondered the people in England do they sing it the way the beach boys sing it I’m not saying that the beach boys know how to pronounce he ate words correctly just say do they sing it little deuce Coupe like they sing it or do they sing Little deuce Coupay It doesn’t sound right
This car singlehandedly destroyed Packard's reputation as a haloed luxury car maker.... replaced by Cadillac who would from that point forward dominate the high-end market.
I can see both sides of the coin the crazy thing is some of the sixes are bringing super eight money.. Still looks like a Packard, they had to do something because expensive cars were looked down upon when no one could eat and your driving around a car that costs more than they’ve ever seen.. it was a tough decision but honestly think it was the right one packard fell apart after wwii they lost there way love 55 packards but it was too late
Thank you so much it means a lot I’m 33 years old I’ve always liked Classic Cars I would dress everything in an episode coming up for the year reflection episode we’re going to talk about past present and future of the channel =) Don’t worry not going anywhere just have a lot of cool things planned next year I honestly believe I was born way too late lol
That’s awesome I personally love the 115 C they are class without being over-the-top and with a six cylinder it probably gets decent gas mileage so you could drive it on the regular
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Congratulations you got it =) I totally thought of a missed opportunity should’ve been Chicago I’m a man... there’s two more packerds in the pipeline perhaps
@@What.its.like. Dude, You gotta go to Detroit! The Packard plant is being torn down and it probably should be for Detroit's well-being, but for cars guys like you and me, it's a must see!
@@What.its.like. And also the Packard Proving grounds in Michigan! I went there this summer and it was a truly special place for Packard lovers!
Yeah I’ve read about the packard plant being demolished it’s super sad but at the same time it’s crazy it’s even still here
I’ll have to check that out
On carburettors leaking onto the exhaust, it was the reason cars pre about 1932 used updraught carburettors, so that the carburettor was below the exhaust. But technology improved, carbs leaked less, so downdraught became the norm. If a downdraught carburettor were to flood, generally the fuel would run into the inlet manifold, and cars of this era commonly ran a drain tube from the inlet manifold to the bottom of the motor to drain such leaks. On running inlet and exhaust ports on different sides of the motor, cars in the very early days used a T head, which favoured inlet and exhaust on opposite sides. It's hard to do on a flathead (L head) however. Then there is the F head engine, which commonly does the opposite sides thing. Finally there are overhead valves, which can be designed either way. But an advantage of the manifolds on the same side is that the exhaust manifold can keep the inlet manifold warm, which has many advantages.
Thank you so much for taking the time to explain that.. I always wondered why they put everything on one side could have put intake on one side and exhaust on the other and some engines didn’t have that but the majority they were all on one side.
Anyone lucky enough to be in this beauty, couldn't possibly feel anything remotely close to common, I would imagine! This is truly is a work of art! 🤩 Great video! 😎👍
Thank you so much.. I want to drive one next year I really wanted to drive a Packard this year but they’re few and far between here.. that’s like a Bucket list thing for me. I’ve always been intrigued by their transmission they were one of the first companies to come up with a synchromesh unit
I wasn’t able to find this out but a lot of people don’t know that the grill is thermostatically controlled but I don’t know if it’s thermostatically controlled on the 115 series I think it’s on super eight and 12s and that’s why I left that information out.. but the grill opens and closes depending on if the engine is at running temperature it closes and allows the air to go around it rather than through it which cuts down on drag.
@@What.its.like. Thanks for featuring her, Jay. My dad would have enjoyed this since he had one in high school.
True...but the mentality in the 1930's would argue against you! :D
What a beautiful motorcar... Love Packard's body styles and their powerful motors.
I would love to own this car one day 1935 to 1941 is my favorite era of Packard in my opinion they didn’t make a bad body style.. 40 darrins are stunning well they all are even the sedans look great.
Absolutely agreed
Back when most all cars were works of art especially the more expensive ones.
The thing is this was the cheap packard model it was only $100 more then a ford or Chevy
I love seeing a quality and correct restoration. Nicely done on this fine automobile. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you so much for digging this episode =)
2 items of interest - the hood ornament is not a swan it is a cormorant, second - Packard was ahead of its time in the placement of the 6 volt battery - it is isolated away from the elements under the front seat. Your overall presentation was excellent !!!!
Thank you so much for the corrections I would love to drive one next year I always wondered what it was like to drive a Packard from this era.. it’s so hard to believe that this Packard was only maybe 100 or $200 more than a Ford.. I was thinking if I could go back in time I would probably buy this car but I don’t know if I would single this car out if I was back in the 30s it would all depend on how much money I had and what my options were.. =)
You knocked it out of the park with this one Jay! Nirvana for car nerds like me.
Thank you it means a lot =)
What a beautiful car, Jay! Thank you for featuring it. FYI, that woodgrain is actually a transfer on metal, which was very common on cars of this era (in different woodgrain patterns, of course). Stable, durable plastics had yet to be developed until after World War II, really.
Thank you so much for digging this episode =)
Hey Jay, everything on this 1937 Packard is outstanding. A masterpiece! 👍
I totally agree =) and to think this was the affordable packard it was only a $100 more than a ford (or not much more than that)
During WWII Packard produced the Rolls-Royce Merlin engine for use in the North American P-51 Mustang fighter.
They were the unsung hero of wwII Packard could never adjust to the changing market after World War II and it just sucks like Packard before the war and Packard after the war are two totally different companies Packard after the war was almost like somebody that was super lost.. it would’ve been really cool because they had all of the towing what if they made a smaller Merlin V 12 because that’s a huge engine and they put it in cars it could’ve been totally different but who knows =)
I thought it was interesting that Studebaker made army trucks that helped the allies win the war especially the Soviet Union. But after world war 2 Studebaker struggled to acclimate to peace time and they finally went under in the early 1960s. Same with Packard.
They both were here since the beginning packard was the first company to do a lot of automotive innovations such as the first car to use a steering wheel as opposed to a tiller.. and studebaker made wagons before cars both companies lost their way after the war
@@glennso47 - I was never a huge Studebaker fan, but they admittedly had a lot of innovative ideas. But by the early 60’s, they didn’t have the resources to exploit their engineering advances.
If i have this Packard , i would drive it daily too , what a treat!
I wasn’t lying when I said that I would Drive this every day if I had the opportunity to.. I would never lose it in a parking lot that’s one of the things I love about my 52 Chevy truck anytime I drive that I never lose it in the parking lot.. could you imagine driving a Packard everywhere people would think that I don’t know what people would think I need to do a video like that in the summertime what it’s like to drive a Packard =)
I’m glad I’m not the only one that would drive this daily
From 1927 to 1940, Cadillac had the LaSalle brand which competed with the cheaper Packards.
Packard later introduced the Clipper line for entry level.
From 1926, even the Packard 6 had a roller cam. I had a customer with 2 1926 6-cyl Packards. It's funny how engines of today with roller cams are thought to be revolutionary and advanced. Just as the modulated displacement engines which Cadillac introduced in 1981.
The steering wheels on older car, not just because bigger is better, but because you needed them for leverage when they didn't have power steering.
Had you started this car, if the engine was in tune and it had the correct exhaust system, you would have been blown away. These 6's are glassy smooth and silent. The flywheel/clutch assy. weights 50-100 pounds. About the only way you can tell that the engine is running is a low put-put coming from the tail pipe at idle.
Many inline 4's, 6's and 8's had intake and exhaust manifolds together, with many modern engines having them bolted together for cold-weather and cold-start heat transfer. Leaking carbs weren't usually a problem as the exhaust manifolds didn't get that hot. What has been a problem for fire are engines like V8's and ignition wires/distributors on top of the engines. Gasoline will usually evaporate, but in a gaseous state is the most volatile. An ignition spark can cause a nasty fire. I was working on a Jaguar XJS and the top of the V12 burst into flames once! We had to have the hood repainted.
If you run across a car which is burned up, it started with a gasoline fire like this if it didn't start from bad wiring.
Thank you so much for taking the time to share all of that insight and added information =)
Hey Jay, I have always loved the Packards of the 1930s!!! They were such elegant automobiles!!! Thanks for sharing this fun video!!! ⛄🤶🎄
I wanna end up with this car eventually not this exact car I’d even take the sedan model.. I wonder how economical the six is I couldn’t find any 0 to 60 times or gas mileage or any of that stuff
@@What.its.like. absolutely agree
I had a survivor 1941 160 limo.. 1st view
Funny you should mention limo there might be a Packard limo coming eventually lol
How’s it been?
That's a uber rare ride. Haven't seen a 115 series in over 20 years!
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a 115 I’ve seen 120s, they are pretty common around here at least it used to be.
A great video about a beautiful car. I've always loved Packards. This model clearly shows that Packard could design a low end model that exudes style and grace.
I love the way you take time to point out the styling touches on these classics. IMO American auto designers during the 30's knew what real style was. Once again Jay, thanks for posting these great videos.
Thank you glad you dig this video cars are so bland now and one one covers how cool these car are and were =)
What a great car. Wish they made cars like that still. 🇺🇸
Me too I would drive this every day if it was mine it Hass to get somewhat decent gas mileage it’s only a six cylinder flathead flatheads got decent gas mileage from what I was told=)
@@What.its.like. IF YOU OWNED A PACKARD YOU DID NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE MILEAGE
Great video! Those Packard Sixes were very well built and reliable cars. The trim inside is simulated woodgrain, however the Super Eights and especially the Twelves have real wood.
Thank you so much for for pointing the wood out =)
@@What.its.like. You're welcome!😁
It has the headlight dimmer button on the floor below the hand brake control. I believe that you like that feature.
Yeah great catch =)
She is stunning
I would totally take this home with me I was thinking just now what body style would fit my needs perfectly it would either have to be the four-door sedan with a suicide sorry “coach” doors or the touring sedan would work or The coupe with the rumble seat.. just for giggles I’ve been looking one 15s are hard to come by you can find a 120 all are easier than you can find a 115.. , let’s not forget the wagon the wagons are really cool but the wagons are really expensive you can almost get a bottom of the barrel super eight for what the wagons are going for.. and the convertibles you can forget about it those are getting really expensive for a six cylinder Packard that most of the packard community doesn’t really much care for..
Wow. Stunning car. True class.
And to think this is the cheap packard, One day I keep telling myself one day and I don’t care what it is it could be the sedan I’ll drive whichever
I am sure it will sell soon, great presentation.
Thank you so much. =) i’m so happy at how far this channel has come production has definitely improved as well as presentation, honestly it wouldn’t be anywhere near where it’s at without you guys. =)
Wow, navy blue with matching rim paint....so good looking. So many nice cars in the 30s and 40s
If I had the money I would take this car home and I would drive it every day because at six cylinder in it so it probably gets decent gas mileage.. and if it didn’t I would install overdrive or put a different rear ended so it did so I could drive it every day =)
@@What.its.like. Thats what I did with my 88 F250. I posted a YT video of my F250 in the comment section of another one of your videos. If you want to review that truck, you are welcome to. I installed a Gearvendors unit. So, instead of 3 forward speeds, its a 6 speed automatic.
It's times like this, that I wish that my grandfather had given me his 1938 Cadillac....what a ride that would've been! 😥😎
What stylish, beautiful car....😍🥰
You'd go on cross country drive in a car like this, just to drive it and forget the outside world....Route 66 anyone! 😎
1938 Cadillac is a stellar looking car as well they had lots of Cadillacs there I wanted to shoot a couple of them I just ran out of time.. they are open on Wednesday for 12 hours I’m gonna try to go there on a Wednesday next time I’d love to go back at the end of December and maybe maybe make it like a once a month thing that would be really cool going down or is it five hours away and that equates for a really long day.. but totally worth it =)
I’ve always wondered how smooth they are is it like driving like riding on a cloud kind of feel when you shift gears does it click into gear my 52 truck is like that when I shift gears it clicks and it’s got those straight cut gears so when you’re going first second or third the transmission whines its almost sounds like a super charger but it’s not.. I love the sound smells experiences of these vintage cars it makes you part of the driving experience same can’t be said about the new cars
Wow, another beautiful business coupe I didn't know. Thank you for the detailed video.
Thank you so much for watching =)
I like how you go over some of the details of the car. I was at that place the past summer. It’s like going to a year long car show!
I love that place it’s epic, all of the staff are extremely great. I’ve been there twice and I still haven’t saw everything there was to see.. i’m going to try to go back once a month
I’m glad that you like that I point out all the details a lot of times these cars get featured and everything got kind of sore it gets glossed over so I wanna make it a point to cover as much as possible especially about design I love doing the shots of the interior in the dash because a lot of times The dashboards look epic but on various other channels they simply don’t show the dash in detail
How could anyone have imagined this would diminish Packard's preeminence as the premium American luxury car maker?
The One-Twenty and 115-C models may have carried a lower price, but you got more car than any of the comparably priced competition gave you.
I want a 115c but they are expensive for what they are. You can get a super eight for the same amount of money.
I like the way you actually sit UP in these older vehicles, leg room, modern cars cramp your limbs in their desire to lower the cars.
Totally agree and to think this was the basement packard it’s better than Luxury cars on sale now
Words of love ...the mamas and papas !
So close you got the mamas and the Papas but it was dream a Little dream
@@What.its.like. Gosh darn..lol
This is a business coupe. The rear of the cabin is intended for salesmen's cases or the doctor's bag (remember house calls?)
Mamas and Papas..Dream a little dream! Great job on this one!
Thanks a lot it really means the world because information was super spotty on this car. =)
What a beauty! What a value at that time!
I loved this car if I had the money it would have came home with me
Damn, Jay !! Beautiful car.
When I was a young man, I worked on Packards, and admired their quality and beauty, but they were above my personal price range.
If I had that car today, like you, it would be a daily driver …
And to think the super eight and 12 packard owners look down at this and the 120 some even go so far to say these aren’t real packards
As a kid, I remember all the old cars had a single switch on the passenger side for the dome light.
Many cars also had the passenger door keyed (so you could get into a locked car), but no key on the driver side. I think it was because you were supposed to get in from the sidewalk side, not the "street" side.
My 52 Chevy truck is like that that’s why I show the glove box segment because it’s easy to lock stuff inside the glove box without locking the whole entire car or truck
ONE MORE THING ... My dad bought a used 1962 Comet from a neighbor. It had a dome light, but the dome light didn't come on when you opened the doors (that was an option, and this was a bare-bones Comet); there was no switch by the passenger door ... nor any door.
One day my dad accidentally stumbled on it ... turn the headlight knob (generally used to adjust the dash light brightness), turn this knob all the way left, past a small detent, and _voilà_ let there be light!
Truck is the same way dome light only works when it is flipped on and off.. something I just thought of Ford (not that I can think of) did the vents I’m thinking of muscle car era in the foot wells Chevy did
The Packard 120 was a medium-priced car introduced by Packard in 1935. It was not a true luxury car but it was necessary to keep the company going (total 1934 Packard sales were only about 5,000 cars).
Then Packard management hired a manufacturing executive from General Motors who thought Packard needed an even cheaper car (the 1937 Packard Six). Sales were initially very strong for that car ...but a short recession in 1938 devastated the entire auto industry until all the automakers got the lucrative Dept. of Defense contracts around 1939/1940.
The 1937 Packard Six was priced similar to a Pontiac...below the respected Packard 120 (Packard kept changing the model names to confuse the public, LOL).
But the 1937 Packard Six was too down market...it looked like the senior Packards...but it hurt the company's image with the wealthy. Packard was once an esteemed luxury car maker...whose management made serious marketing errors (starting with the 1937 Packard Six). The wealthy clientele that Packard once had were moving to buy the more prestigious Cadillacs (who didn't make cheap cars). Packard still made outstanding luxury cars in the late 1930s...but they weren't as popular anymore.
Thank you so much for explaining for taking the time and explaining all of that there’s two sides to it they needed a cheaper car to sell cars but I get where you’re coming from it did damage Packards image of being an exquisite company they were the last one of the three p’s to fade, The other two are Pierce arrow and peerless.. by making this car I believe that bought them some time I honestly believe the packer died was one of World War II casualties because after the war they couldn’t find their way.. and frankly they were never the same company I don’t believe Packard made a bad car between 1935 and 1941.. even the sedans look good. Don’t even get me started on the 40 Darren that’s a master piece.. i’ve never seen one in person only and pictures and video and man does that car look sharp.. I’m going to look for one next year.. would love to drive a packard next year as well that would be awesome =)
I always wondered what they drove like if it’s like riding on a cloud how the clutch and shift action works. Like does it click into gear and what it’s road manners are like. =)
@@What.its.like. Packard really did not need to make the cheap Six to survive the Great Depression. What Packard really needed at that time was to merge with another independent automaker (eventually they merged with Studebaker in the early 1950s, which was probably the worst automaker to merge with at that time). The Packard Six (and 120) were decent cars for the money...but not luxury cars (where image is everything).
Totally agree Studebaker was the worst company to merge with but I always compare the Studebaker and Packard merger to the Sears and Kmart merger. But realistically there wasn’t anybody left to merge with everybody was gone there was talks of them merging with Hudson and Nash and go under the AMC umbrella but once George mason died unexpectedly all of those talks were just talks..
@@What.its.like. The reason that Studebaker/Packard did not merge with Hudson/Nash was mostly due to the incompatibility of the CEOs..they could not agree on the terms of a merger.
I have never driven a car from the 1930s or 1940s. From what I understand, it is more arduous because there is no power steering/brakes. Also, the driver sits far back from the front axle..so the large steering wheel has to be turned earlier when changing direction.
Packard is the roll Royce of American automobile
The intake and exhaust manifolds on the same side of an engine were common on a flathead engine because of the valve train configuration. It was the only way for it to work because there was only one camshaft in the block along with the valves which were also in the engine block.
Thank you so much for sharing that insight =)
Stunning.
I really wanted this to follow me home =)
Another excellent review, Jay! That's a beautiful Packard, but it would be even more beautiful if you would buy it for me! 😇
I want to drive one next year hopefully =) glad you dig this episode
Beautiful car and great video!
9:44… Those shoes look like my beige colored sketchers.
Haha yeah I wear those for the insoles
Hey J...you should carry around a little magnet. On that "Wood Trim" you could put a magnet on it and see if it sticks. If it does, then it's stamped metal and painted to look like wood.
I think I’m gonna start doing that lol
Jay in love with this car !!!!
Me too I was absolutely smitten with the 115 see definitely a car that I would love to own one day I love the two door sedan..
Nice. Very well built.
The Packard 12 is for the rear passenger experience, the Packard 6 is for the driver experience, given neither have power steering, I would go for a the 6 as my daily driver.
I want one so bad I’d drive it everywhere the cool thing about the six is people who don’t know packard will still think it’s a more upscale car
What’s crazy is the price that these go for now..
I think I might have that Odometer somewhere. My Grandfather had a 1937 back in the day and that car was taken apart.
Packard - from awesome to a sad, sad demise in 1959. Packard merged with Studebaker in 1953 & formed the Studebaker-Packard Corporation. The merger was intended to be temporary while it became a merger with (AMC). Disagreements among the firms' executives stopped the consolidation with AMC, Studebaker-Packard remained a separate company. The Packard brand was phased out in 1959 with declining sales of the Studebaker-built 1957 and 1958 Packards. In other news: The assembly plant for the Packard brand, has been deteriorating for 68 years. Demolition of the Packard automotive plant in Detroit, a relic left over from the 1950s, began Sep 30, 2022 after years in development limbo. This car is awesome - - OK stop drooling Jay! Good review as always.
Carb placement? After a long time in the auto business, could a fire happen sure, but in all my years never saw it happen. Manifold temps run 250 to about 800 degrees. It takes about 500 degrees for liquid gasoline to self ignite. Now vapors? Yes, but gasoline vapors are heavier than air. Also don't forget air is moving over and around the engine from the fan. Could it happen? Sure but not all that likely. PS it's a Cormorant not a Swan.
Thank you so much for all of that insight as well as information I always compare the Studebaker/Packard merger as a series Kmart merger two wrongs don’t always make a right =)
Curious does the 115 grill operate I couldn’t find anything anywhere I don’t know if it was a feature reserved for the senior models only like the super eight and the 12 this era of Packard, had those grills that were thermostatically controlled where the louvers inside the grills would close once the engine got up to temperature making it more aerodynamic or maybe not so much aerodynamic but it would reduce drag because the air would go through the grill creating drag instead going around the grill but I couldn’t find anything saying that it had it or that it didn’t have it I would just assume that it didn’t have it because of the price point.
@@What.its.like. 1937 120Cs and 115Cs do not use the moveable grille bars. They use a normal thermostat. I think they started using it in the lower models in 1938. Know I'm late but the group was the Mammas and Pappas.
Thank you so much For getting back to me on that I was always curious I’m not sure when they started it though they started it early 30s it was a super cool feature Packard wasn’t the only one that did it to my knowledge I think peerless and Pierce arrow also had that feature but I’m not 100% sure on that.. I saw a stellar peers arrow at the Classic Automall but I ran out of time and wasn’t able to feature it it’s on the list for next time if it’s still there
This was my parents' first car. They bought it used in 1943.
That’s awesome what did they think of it I love these would like to own one =)
I didn't comment yesterday, ear infection.
Love this car! The overall coup style and that Packard front end.
Thanks Jay.
I’ve been looking for one they’re still affordable I found one for 11 grand yesterday .. and then I found a super eight but it’s in Washington state for 44 grand and I was like man if I had $44,000 I would buy that in a heartbeat.. A lot of people don’t know what they have the crazy thing is is some of the sixes are almost untouchable, I also found a Nash Metropolitan for about five grand and I was like man I really want that but I don’t have $5000 for a car right now.. which sucks it’s a lot closer
It is a magnificent automobile!🔹💙🔹 Thank you so much for this study of a work of art from a golden age! ✨🥇✨
Awesome happy you dig this episode =)
I love the 115 C want to own one someday don’t care body style
@@What.its.like. Good luck my friend, I hope you can make that special purchase! 🌠👌🏼
thats a great car Justin, the styling is impeccable 👍 I agree with you about driving it every day. by the way does it have a radio? I think I missed it.
Yeah it’s in a super weird location it’s right above the lighter it’s that weird looking tiny looking box it almost looks like a 1930s model a Speedometer that is the radio.. The face is super small but I’m sure it has all kinds of tubes behind it =)
Nice Jay, I get into the older cars of the 30s and 40s. Post-war is when things began to really change, I would guess that as a Packard, she will have leather and wood trim?
I think leather was reserved for the higher trim models like the super eight 8 and 12 series.. if you get a chance look up 1937 Packard 12 they are do you think this car is nice that’s like a whole other world it’s like, it’s right up there with Duesenberg Rolls-Royce in a lot of ways it’s better.
Wonderful job on this one, Jay! Beautiful car in every detail, thoroughly observed by you, and appreciated by me.
Thank you it means so much coming from you to me =P
My Dad was telling me the Packard 6 really upset the more "Well To Do" Packard buyers because "the common man" could buy one. It would be as if Cadillac made the same car, but one had a V8 under the hood and another had a 4-banger.
Yeah it’s definitely polarizing us for sure.. but still looks good
@@What.its.like. No denying that. Anyway, all these years later, I don't think it matters anymore.
The 110s and 120s saved Packard during the 1930s, no question. But Packard didn’t know how or just couldn’t make a “cheap” car. The profit margins on the Jr cars were not enough to grow the company. The war years saw Packard’s bottom line grow when making Merlin engines, but the company was hammered for “profiteering” at the end of the war, forcing it to return millions to the Govt. (Did that happen to Ford or GM?)
@@robertknapp7612 Wow! i didn't know about the profiteering. What a burn!
15:55 Most inline engines placed the carburetor alongside and above the exhaust.
17:32 "...presence without being over the top."
Love the show!
Thank you out of all of the car is that a review this year this is the one that I would take home with me number one spot..
2023 is going to be awesome =) 1946 Desoto coming tomorrow
Epic classic
I concur =)
Even in their attempts to market a lower priced, mainstream car model, the Packard workmanship & quality control remained top drawer if somewhat conservative. However the"Jr" Packard concept may've backfired on them.😢
If Lexus built a car of this quality they would install a engine on light because Packard 12 are so smooth you can't even feel it run
I’ve heard/read that Packard engines back in the day or second to none.. I still have yet to experience one though, perhaps next year
Wow! What a car!
It’s crazy to think Packard even built this car considering what Packard was as a brand they made it affordable car for the masses I guess Tesla’s kind of sort of doing the same thing with the model three even though the model three isn’t as cheap as they originally wanted it to be..
Mamas and Papas - Dream a little dream of me.
You got it somebody beat you to it though =)
Great video!
Thank you =)
Often with inline engines the intake and exhaust manafolds were tied together in the middle. With my 41 Chevy there was a temperature controlled flapper that let hot exhaust gases up under the carburetor to help vaporize the gasoline when the engine was cold.
Thank you so much for sharing that information =)
Very very gorgeous! i had owned at one time a '28 Packard, I can't remember if it was a Roadster or Doc's Coupe. but it was very rare with less than 50 left. Hence why i sold it too someone who had the rescoures to restore it. Anyways. This, I love. Everything about!!! The best thing IMO is that Gigantic Steering wheels they had and The Carburators Oil Bath filters. They did so well. Loving the videos so far, Could we see a feature on the Franklin Air cooled cars, Or durants? Thanks.
I wanted to hit a Franklin all year I know a guy who has four orfive of them but I didn’t see him all year.. I am going to do Franklin we were going to go down that rabbit hole together but it will be probably next year. I want to go hard and heavy into the 30s cars covered Jordan, cord Auburn, Duesenberg, Pierce arrow, peerless and definitely want to feature more Packards the goal is to cover all the cars that never really got covered as well as do some cars that didn’t get covered or I want this to be a home of the orphan cars and it seems like the viewer base does as well =)
Glad you dig the channel there’s two more Packers in the pipeline they just aren’t as old as this one unfortunately still cool cars it’s just packard lost there way after World War II in my opinion
@@What.its.like. Hey, thanks for the reply. That is super cool and quite rare i would say seeing how Obscure those Franklins are. Not an Ordinary type of collector car. I would love to find and own one but well out Here in Michigan there isn't many options. Anyways, I might have a friend who i can hook you up with for those 20s and 30s cars. let me know, maybe i can connect with you on facebook. He's got some contacts for 30s and 40s Mercedes too.
If your ever close to the Gilmore auto museum which is in Hickory corners Michigan go they have a whole room for Franklins morning I should say it’s set up like a dealership that place is absolutely incredible it’s one of the best museums that I’ve ever gone to
The Mamas and the Papas a remake of an older song from the 40's I think, since I heard the old one some 45 years ago on PBS
I had no idea that song was a cover song thank you so much for sharing that I’ll have to look up that other song
The interior trim is all simulated wood. The dash is beautifully painted to simulate burl wood. That is probably a lost art.
Every time I go to Classic auto mall that is my favorite car there that is still there it’s crazy how much these things cost though you could get a Packard 120 for cheaper than these are going for..
For a host of reasons Packard struggled in the 'Post-War' period and really never did regain its Pre-War status. It was a really sad it reached the end... I think in '59?
They lost their way after the war.. went from hero to zero
1956 saw the last true Packard. And they were fabulous vehicles in ‘56, but the company was on life support by then. Truly sad end of a company driven into the ground by mismanagement and poor quality during the Korean War years (too many warranty issues).
That was packards swan song 55 coming soon =)
The hood ornament is not a swan. It's officially a cormorant.
Thank you for that correction
I love these old cars, but the tinkerer in me just wants to put a more modern drivetrain while keeping the look and interior of its original appearance. I’m in the process of doing that very thing with a 69 Mustang Fastback. Hoping to have it done by next summer. Thanks again for sharing all these classics.
69 gust back mustang is a super cool car I had a 67 mustang miss that car a lot especially in the summer time
You’re making me feel old as hell saying that a ‘69 Mustang doesn’t have a “modern drivetrain” …
Yeah, newer cars are more sophisticated, but by the late 60’s, cars ran quite well.
@@sking2173 I meant like all around disc brakes, AC, and a Holley EFI. Maybe in another decade I’ll throw in a Toyota V8 from the 90s for shits and giggles. It was a one owner no accident plain Jane 302 fastback. Did have PS which was it. Dad started it but I’m finishing it for him and me.
This will be my second as my first was a 65 coupe I drove out of HS till I sold it after the army. Modern to me isn’t the same as current. I’m pushing 50.
New cars may have Technology that that makes them sophisticated, The Classic Cars you as the driver it’s a different experience I’ve driven lots of new cars and the performance is great but all the traction control and stuff you can’t get it sideways I should say it’s really hard to get them sideways whereas the old cars you can get them sideways with very little effort at all.. with the classics there wasn’t traction control to save you you had to know how to drive and I believe that’s why a lot of people now can’t drive.. just an opinion tho
Packard's iconic hood ornament is a cormorant, not a swan.
Thank you so much for that correction
Jay, its not a swan. Its a pelican. ask the man that owns one!
Thank you so much for that correction =)
My dad owned a 1939Packard. in the 1950's, he said it was a piece of junk!!!
I’ve heard mixed things.. The early 50s is not my favorite your era of Packard I do realize yours was a 39 but I had a friend who had a grandpa who had a 52 Packard and I’m sure it’s still down there in the basement but I kid you not if you shot some ether in it that thing and it didn’t start for 20 years he could fire it up and it would run I wrote it at one time the seats needed to be redone it felt like you were sitting in beanbag chairs.. but it was silk smooth even with a miss
I knew a hotrodder that had a 37coupe with a chevy 250 6 in it.
As much as I hate engine swaps in a Packard that would be a fitting engine swap that if the Packard six went I don’t think I would mind seeing a 250 Chevy in there because it’s not a V-8
I really want to build a car for the channel next year just to prove that you don’t need to spend 100 grand to build a car custom like a ground up car like I wanna find like a 30s chassis and build my own car in the sense of like a vintage prewar race car something similar to that boattail design no fenders possibly no lights I honestly think if you were doing it on a budget it won’t cost any more than $5000 that would be the projected price point my wife already told me no but I’m going to see if there is a way to convince her otherwise.. she was like you don’t have enough power for the stuff you have going on now how the hell are you going to build a car and I was like a little bit at a time.. lol I’m a dreamer she’s a realist and sometimes as you can guess we’ll just leave it at that =)
Do it!
That’s one of the negatives that there are no coat hooks. 😢The gauges are where the radio should be. The air filter looks like an oil bath air filter like a lot of older cars had.
The oil-bath air filter was amazingly effective for engines of “the day”. VW used them up through the 70’s.
It was amazing the sludge you’d find in the bottom of those things after 5000 miles. They actually worked !!
Speaking of twin sixes. At one time in the 1960s and early seventies GMC trucks had some models that had twin six engines. I am not sure if the models were heavy duty ones or not. Does anyone recall? Thanks.
So beautiful not like those tin cans cars today.
I totally agree that is my favorite car still at the Classic Automall I would take that over anything. And it’s a basement model packard
Awesome cars! Today's sucks.
Totally agree so bland and ordinary they all look alike even the expensive cars
Ofcource it was not an issue
Do you ever update your videos to let viewers know if a car has sold and is no longer available and the video is kept to inform about the particular make/model car?
I don’t work for any of these dealerships I’m just a freelancer.. I go to different dealerships and showcase their cars while reviewing them What car are you interested in I’ll look and see if it’s still available can also link all of the links are in the descriptions which will take you to the cars that are for sale
This channel tells what the cars were advertised as specs and show the cars fir what they are like your looking into buying these cars just like how other do reviews for new cars. It’s the same premise but with classic cars
The implication of the advertisement, back in that time, seems so rude today..."A Packard for the Common man"!..I am sure that there were--just like now--lots of "common men" who owned expensive cars...But judging people by their material goods was very common, back then...and still exists.
I totally agree some of the language was a bit rude
People from those times had thicker skin than those of today …
Totally agree with that everybody seems to get offended by everything somebody was offended by the way I said Coupe the other day
@@What.its.like. - Yeah, I saw that post … It reminded me of Alan Harper (Two and a Half Men) correcting everyone on the pronunciation of Porsche (Porsh-AH). Of course, any fan of that show knows what an anal-retentive a-hole Alan was …
That was a different guy I was trying to look for the other commentor CZcams has an assistant it’s almost like a net anything that derogatory ends up into a different section and this comment ended up into a different section it’s filtered out comment section it’s weird I responded those too.. I have a funny segment at the end of the year beach boys sing Cherry Cherry coupe Little deuce Coupe, I often wondered the people in England do they sing it the way the beach boys sing it I’m not saying that the beach boys know how to pronounce he ate words correctly just say do they sing it little deuce Coupe like they sing it or do they sing Little deuce Coupay It doesn’t sound right
No simulation
This car singlehandedly destroyed Packard's reputation as a haloed luxury car maker.... replaced by Cadillac who would from that point forward dominate the high-end market.
I can see both sides of the coin the crazy thing is some of the sixes are bringing super eight money..
Still looks like a Packard, they had to do something because expensive cars were looked down upon when no one could eat and your driving around a car that costs more than they’ve ever seen.. it was a tough decision but honestly think it was the right one packard fell apart after wwii they lost there way love 55 packards but it was too late
5:15 Cormorant, not swan.
Thank you for that correction
the hood ornament is a cormorant...not a swan ...just fyi
I would rather have this new for $17k than a car with airbags and Bluetooth, frankly.
Yes I second that
You do a great job! How old are you?
Thank you so much it means a lot I’m 33 years old I’ve always liked Classic Cars I would dress everything in an episode coming up for the year reflection episode we’re going to talk about past present and future of the channel =) Don’t worry not going anywhere just have a lot of cool things planned next year
I honestly believe I was born way too late lol
It's real wood
Awesome thank you
Momma Cass or the Mommas and poppas
Yep =) I forgot the song though but somebody already got it ahead of you
That's when they knew how to make cars
I love that car
Mama's and popas
=)
PORSCH-AH!!!! NOT porsch!
Tomatoe/tomato
Alan Harper !!
There is nothing common about this car. Nothing.
Now there isn’t but back then it was a super cheap packard
I have owners manual from 1937 packard this model …car was owned by uncle ..2 door sedan 6 cyl. Stick shift
That’s awesome I personally love the 115 C they are class without being over-the-top and with a six cylinder it probably gets decent gas mileage so you could drive it on the regular