Revisiting "Connecting with Heritage"
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I'd love to be taught but it's so expensive and I don't know if that's an expense I can't afford rn
Big same
This is an amazing, amazing point to bring up - a lot of times, my best teachers were not the people I paid, they were my friends, my peers, the people around me within my community. Teachers aren't just people who instruct classes, but also the people we sit with, talk things through, and more! Taking classes is amazing - but the absolute magic of being with someone and learning from them as a friend, a peer, another practitioner, is truly where you learn the most.
@@ChaoticWitchAunt I'm honestly scared to reach out to ppl who would know stuff outside from creators on social media bc I'm German and the far right influence is sooo strong, even more nowadays. I recently met someone who was so nice to talk to about heritage connection and folk practices. Until they mentioned how sad it is that all of this will be lost bc "the immigrants" will definitely "erase" our culture and other concerning stuff.
My culture and folk practice is like a wicked game of dodgeball "don't let the (unintentionally) N*zi influenced sources touch you".
You can still listen and choose what to keep and what to disregard. @@cozycrimecorner
Start with watching all of C.W.Aunts videos and read the books she recommends.
Thank you for mentioning me! To further elaborate on ancestral reconnection in the face of genocide, calling upon communal ancestors or historical figures within the culture is a way I add to it because I know so little about my family. Honoring your ancestors by doing the work to become an ancestor, creating traditions to pass down with as much guidance possible of ancestors through dreams, divination, and research. My great-grandmother's name was changed by the British Red Cross as a child and the only survivor of her family, and my other great-grandparents didn't get the chance to pass down a lot of stories. So, it won't be the exact same, but it's still reconnecting.
I feel like so many of us have come from high control religions that we are trying to impose that kind of "structure" onto our practices, including gatekeeping behaviors.
I'm about a year into my own reconnection journey and also just witchcraft in general and while I love learning about my ancestral blood heritage, I've come to understand that learning about the culture and history of my ancestors informs my magical practice rather than dictating what it "should" look like--as a Christian witch who has gone through deconstruction, I have had a really hard time deeply grasping that my practice is ultimately up to me--there isn't any rule book to follow other than my own. That is a lot of freedom and also a lot of responsibility that I have really grappled with and I think that I'm finally starting to understand. I love your videos that look bavk on your previous ones--it feels like permission to start where I am and that I will learn more as I go. Thanks for this ❤
This!!! I agree so much
I love what you said about stories being more important than dates etc in ancestry research.
My favourite story around learning of our own family history is being at a family wedding where my uncle had brought all his research so far to the party and walking past a table where my mom and aunt were poring over the documents and hearing one of them laugh and say "Well she was a TROLLOP."
This type of video is one of the many reasons I love coming to you for education and information; your willingness to sit with your old self and laugh, cringe, and (most importantly) show where your views and opinions have changed based on your own education. You’re unafraid of being vulnerable in front of your audience and saying, “Wow, that was rough.” It’s amazing, and unfortunately not common enough. So thank you for this.
That was the first time I heard you say "remember too tell your friends you love them" and that just Sparta kicked me in the feels. Thank you Frankie!! May safety and friendship always walk with you!!
My Dad passed in 2015 and i have been a bit lost in every way since. Found your channel and watched #71. Since then i have been creating and adding to my altar. i put it in my kitchen like you said and i see his beautiful face every day. My Dad is still a part of every day and especially every meal that is cooked. You can not put a price tag on peace. Thank you.
As someone who was raised in Italy and now lives in Wales I'll say this: I remember my Nonna veiling, but never thought much about it until I saw you talking about it and your experience with both Diana e Maria Vergine and i don't think I would have gone back looking into the why and wherefores of those traditions I was within but never quite thought much of at the time, without finding you talking about it Frankie, so thank you 🙏🏽
Thank you so much for this comment!!!!
As far as tracing your ancestry - yes try to trace, if you are not able, have a basic understanding of where they came from and the history or circumstances of when they were living there. Please remember, oral histories are not always accurate, and neither are the genealogies your ancestor paid someone to falsify for them (speaking from experience.)
This is also a fantastic point!!!! I didn’t touch on that in this at all and it’s really good to bring up.
This has been the most helpful chunk of information I have gotten on witchcraft so far, I feel like so much pressure has been lifted
I love that you are revisiting your videos and I love your cheese allegory😂
I had another comparison but it's a little more boring because it's kind of just how it is lol:
We are cousins, us Italians and the diaspora Italians(litteraly). I live with my mom and you live with yours who is my aunt. I don't know what its like to have my aunt as a mom and you don't know what it's like being the child of my mom but we both know what it's like being the grandchild of our grandma. So like... yeah we are different but we are connected and similar in many ways.
Lots of good things here! Hated some parts, and loved others. I think the biggest thing I would clarify is that some of ur advice is very specific to ur community, and there is a ton of nuance to the topics u covered. But otherwise i am glad u made a video on this! I think there is a lot of room for conversation here, and I wish more of these conversations were had that included the different types of distance ppl have to cultures (ie, first gen immigrants, re-immigrants, immigrant only communities)
Absolutely correct in saying this!!! I do think those conversations are incredibly important & I thank you for commenting about it!
I also definitely felt like I could not cover everything I wanted to in this video, so i other a later video will be made or I’ll talk about it at another point! That distance is very much important!
@@ChaoticWitchAuntthank u for ur reply! I definitely loved a lot in ur video so I hope my comment didn't seem in bad faith❤️🙏 I am genuinely happy to see the conversation being had.
@@ChaoticWitchAuntI hope u do and ill be eager to see it! As someone with a complicated background I always encourage nuance and avoiding absolutes if u can
I love this video so much! I’m Mexican American and my practice will never look the same as someone from Mexico. But through connecting with other Mexican Americans and going to local events I’ve learned so much!!
your content is helping me get through a bad mental and physical health month - thanks!
I've wanted to see my ancestry, but as you said for Armenians, lots of history is lost. Thanks for shouting out the Armenian folk magic account! I wanted to find some pre-Christian beliefs and rituals Armenians follow to see if I connect with that part of my ancestry and I'm going to check out the account 😊 12:11
thank you for clearing some information up. I had watched that video years ago as well and this is a great addition for better understanding. I am trying to reconnect with my lost heritage and this type of information helps a lot to find a starting point.
I wanted to come here and say that as a european person, it often seems like american ppl in particular have been stripped of a culture so much that yall seek out all other cultures you never really were part in. And I think sometimes it‘s better to enjoy parts of that culture without taking it all to any extremes. There‘s nothing wrong with american culture either. And all cultures have melted together over time. In fact nation identity is a very recent invention. We used to not define ourselves by nationality but rather culture and tribes of the local area. So it‘s always good to keep a bit of scepticism. For example, the use of olive oil in italian food is not as old as people think. If you ask older italian women you‘lo find out pretty easily that they used to cook with other oils. Olive oil was considered not for consumption really until there was a shift.
A lot of what we view as ancient is in fact newly established fantasy to sell people a „national identity“ for the sake of making people believe in nations and also for tourism to work.
So it‘s genuinely helpful to read more about this too. If we‘re not careful, we can live in total ignorance of how much we think of as the past or ancestoral past and end up fantasizing more in fabricated realities than actual reality.
At the end of the day researching the past is difficult because of many reasons. Human civilization changes, cultural shifts and erasures. Colonialism, cultural fusing and historial documents being written by the ones that dominated at the time writing their own narratives.
If you go far back enough you‘ll end up in a prehistoric time of cavemen cultures and tribes. That‘s technically your ancestory as well. But we usually don‘t think back that far because it erases in a way the cultures we identify with now. And puts us into a more vague idea of human life.
So really I‘d urge anyone to just be mindful. Your past matters as much as your present. Your ancestors lived in their presence and might have longed for a past even further back glorifying that and seeking a connection. And who knows what happened further back right?
All in all I think we all should focus on what we are in now as much as we focus on heritage and our cultures. You can adapt parts of italian culture of course but America will never be italy and that‘s fine. You matter. Your american connections matter. They aren‘t lesser even if the culture you experienced wasn‘t the same as that of your ancestors. Their culture also wasn‘t always the same way when they were alive. So try to focus on that as well. Because now you might seek out escapism in a past you never experienced. But in the future things will change and perhaps your future lineage will also be different culturally and romantisize what you have right now. Totally oblivious to how you also were seeking something that‘s gone.
I guess in conclusion all I wanna say is to appreciate what you have as much as what you don‘t have.
This is why I view people associated with philosophies that I follow like Mozi (Mohism) or the founders of Discordianism (Greg Hill and Kerry Wendell Thornley and others) along with other people to be ancestor-adjunct and I view them as ancestors of the legacy of the belief system that I admire and follow
They planted the tree and we are enjoying the shade type of mindset when I think of people that I look up to as guides or ancestral anchors. Love this video!! Keep up with the amazing work!!
This came at a great time tbh. I'm reconnecting with my ancestry rn and have set up an ancestor altar.
My last name was changed and completely made up by my great grandfather. When my grandfather immigrated here, we have no idea of our past just a basic idea.
This is something that happens to SO MANY people that I feel like isn’t talked about.
Im from the Philippines, so can I call you my international chaotic witch aunt?
Could you make a video on ancestors of your communities? I did not know artist and famous civil rights leaders could be our ancestors! Do you recommend any books on that?
Exploring ancestral land like Italy would be wonderful if you find that you can financially do that. Mine is Scottish and Irish so as soon as I can I hope to explore Ireland and Scotland. I wanted to with my father but he passed away after my mother five years prior. I still feel their presence once in a while.❤️
Because of my mom I can trace a lot of my Italian side of her family but I have such a bad relationship with her and my grandma that I hardly want anything to do with them. But I have some family traditions like my great grandma's fudge recipe.
Sei un Italo americano....I am Italian born and am learning more everyday.
“Tracing your ancestry is great! If your ancestors weren’t facing genocide, colonization or erasure of their identities.”
Me, a Han Chinese Hong Konger: *sweating massive bullets*
fr though this has been a bit of a deep sadness in me, because my grandmother was separated from her birth family amidst the chaos of fleeing from the invading Japanese. She only remembers she had a brother, and the only reason she is here today is because my grandfather’s family took her in as a live-in maid. That’s a part of family I will never be able to possibly know. Then there’s colonization, with many locals are still suffering the effect of believing everything Western is inherently better and wanting speak with RP British English for exorbitant prices. On top of that, colonization and made it so that I’m native in English but garbage at the local language because my parents wanted to secure a good future for me. They were right too, with teaching English being my job and it makes me feel so wrong inside to know how colonized I am in mind and heart. Even my thoughts and this language by which I express myself is colonized.
It has gotten better. 3 years of slow approach towards improving my Cantonese, talking to more local people, doing research on local and Han Chinese folk belief and practices and trying to connect with the land has made me feel far closer to my heritage than I ever did. I’m still not at the point where I feel accepted by my community entirely, but that internalized feeling of not belonging, of being inherently an ‘other’ amongst my own people has lessened. I see less the judgemental eyes of people who other me, and more the smile of support when I try my best to use my broken Cantonese to communicate with them.
Sorry for the self-indulgent ramble, but I wanted to share it with you because that quote alone was such a good summary of all the reasons I’m struggling to connect.
Thank you Frankie, I really do appreciate this video. ❤
Thank you for sharing this with me!!!
Family Search is mormon just so you know, trust me you don't want that headache
wow that metaphor was... really cheesy *badum tiss* thank you so much I'm here till Thursday, try the veal!
Bravo🎉
I Live in Poland and most of my recent ancestors were/are christians, there's no strong connections to pagans that lived time ago, and If I ask what my granny did they would say she went to church on Sunday... like its cool but I am not any mean christian, I am interested deeply into Rodnovery and like old gods, old faith that I feel cannot be search and deepen by people around me, people by blood because they dont know about it or even laugh at those people since if there is anything then its one christian god :/
One thing I’m really struggling with is finding a community and mentor of people who practice Irish folk magic in America :/
the local thing is from spiderman... your friendly neighborhood spiderman lmao
I know absolutely nothing about family history because besides my sisters and my mother, I don't talk to any family 😂 None of us know anything lol I'm the only one who practices some form of craft though
Can I ask why using the Mormon sites and tests are bad? most of them are free :(
My basic understanding is that Mormons do “baptism for the dead” where they do proxy baptism using real records of people who died to give the soul an option to be saved. By using said websites you are allowing them access to information to do this with all of you ancestors which can be very invasive. Some members have done them for holocaust victims for example which not every Mormon should do but that fact that someone could do that is something to keep in mind and disrespectful for obvious reasons. I’m not a Mormon or Exmormon but I’m sure this more in depth research you can find online and CZcams.
🤔 young…just wait 😂
I know 😭
You don't need ancestors to be apart of a culture. Look at all the non racial Jews or converts or all the people who adopted a middle eastern culture like Christianity as for heritage I wonder if being second generation in a new land makes the new lands culture your heritage or like second generation convert same question
i'm a non-racial second generation black jew practicing paganism in a christian neighbourhood and I feel the new land and the old land are mixed together, a blending of the lands if you will. Best example of that are the hotdogs I eat - relish, mustard, ketchup onions and hot sauce combined on one hotdog!! Unthinkable in the past, but totally a reality in my neighbourhood. Now we all eat it, we call it the one with everything
Also true!
It's always a joy to visit you Auntie 😊 And I'm from Anne Frank's country... Which makes you one of my favorite Witches 🪄❤