How can Germany atone for its colonial atrocities? | DW Africa
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- čas přidán 2. 11. 2023
- Following the historic apology from Germany's President Frank-Walter Steinmeier to Tanzania for brutal crimes committed under German colonial rule, we ask what Tanzanians make of the gesture and whether a plea for forgiveness is enough. We meet families who want more: the return of the skulls of their murdered ancestors and further compensation.
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01:55 As a Tanzanian, I strongly believe that an apology was warranted. But it is hypocritical of the TZ government to seek an apology for crimes committed over a century ago, but they themselves are not seeking forgiveness for injustices committed to their own people since independence!
Furthermore, compensation is a fair expectation. But in my humble opinion, it does not have to be monetary to the government nor to those directly affected. It could be academic scholarships. Or it could be medical treatment for specialized care, that is below standards in Tanzanian. For all of these, they should target the relevant communities where the crimes were perpetrated, but prioritizing the direct descendants .
The German embassy should have an oversight of the entire process, to mitigate cronyism and corruption.
Glad to see fair African opinion. Not just hunger for money. That would be nice. Academic or medical collaboration is good idea
If ISRAEL can come after 1000 yrs and take land with support i don't see the problem here
Even i am not German and being Asian, i feel it not fair for Germany. They got their independence for 100Years ago and still messed up due to their corruption & stupidity. Even Singapore or many former Asian colony countries forget and move forward. So they develop nicely. Regardless how much you atone or donate, they will ask endlessly and not being fair for German 😢. I never hate and already forgive those who did terrible to my country.
I don't agree that money should be paid but which country got independence 100 years ago? Colonialism was much more recent than that for African countries. And that is still not enough time for a country to get their affairs in order. Many of these countries have not even yet had their final shape. The shape they are in was drawn by colonialists and they would unfortunately, have to fight wars to untangle themselves.
As for Singapore, it is well known that is an anomaly. It is literally called a miracle.
The apology is for what Germans did not for current state of Tanzania
@@wise5674 Most of German colonies already gone during WWI. For example last german colony German East Africa from 1885 to 1918. Now it is 2022. About 100 years ago. Their core problems are their corruption, belief (tribalism & Islam), and stupidity. I already give away list of newbie country. Even 1,000 years they won’t be better with these. Not by Germany, but themselves
I support you 100%.. this is so unfair to Germany. Where we are today (Africans) is the result of poor leaders we have not colonial past. We need to move
@@NgengeMkeni-uo5hq this is ignorant. Please, do not speak until you are informed enough to speak
Why should groups of people, far removed from an event, be held responsible and/or accountable for something others did in the sometimes far distant past? I'm going to research this topic, as I'm curious what different types of competent scientists/professionals in associated fields think.
Sometimes, people far removed...are still profiting from it. Some, not all.
I have a BA in modern history. The countries wringing their hands were the last players in the history of violence of world history.
No one alive today have any need for guilt.
Coz,the past affects the future.
Duh. So why don't you create a time machine and go change things? This is how history works.
The people aren't apologising, the nation is.
How will the mongols, persians and Roman’s atone? White guilt is pathetic. History is history, accept that it was imperfect and try not make the same mistakes in the future.
Well said!
agreed. its so f'n annoying!
Wonderful. People who didn't do anything have to pay people who never suffered any crimes money.
Germans today enjoy a high standard of living partly because of the wealth that was stolen via colonialism.
Africans today enjoy a low standard of living partly because their development was interrupted by colonialism.
These are simple facts.
How can my father's old bully's son attone for his father bullying my father? Should I ask for financial compensation? 🤔
Has any person stoped u to ask for wht ever u want?humans approach things differently so its up to the affected people.
We thank Germany for their utmost apology. But now its time for the Tanzania Government to ask for forgiveness to the citizens for looting national coffers, poor leadership and failure to provide basic needs to the people.
Your not Tanzania back off
Why is a country need to atone for what was done before they were even born and had no part in. It's called history, in the past!
Learn from it and move on in a better way...period.
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Because European corporations still very much exploit Africa.
agreed. people need to move on ffs. which people hasnt done something to another or has something done to them over the ages of human existence... why make those who were not even alive then pay for the crimes of others.
If you really must push it then set up a volunteer funds and let those who wasnt to donate. Don't put group punishment on a bunch of innocent people and make them pay for the actions of others.
@@interdictr3657People today still profit from the atrocities.
Return the loot
As if anybody really cares. They just want money.
Who will atone for Dresden's bombing? Or the many other horrible things done to Germany over a century and that still exist today? You cant take down all the movies or courses from the curriculum. The whole planet owes Germany billions and an apology.
Yeah, well when you invade Poland, bad things tend to happen.
@darkgalaxy5548 Well, Mongolia invaded Poland, too, and nothing happened. Ah, sorry! I forgot, they have no money now.
Which apologies after the Holocaust is did
This is some proper woke reporting!
An apology was warranted. Most important thing is teach Germans about their bloody colonial past. That will make them morally better than British, Dutch, Belgians and Americans who committed genocide.
African countries should not ask for money. They should think more long-term and ask for a special relationship with Germany just like Israel has. That means, Germany should no longer have a special responsibility for just Israel but also for Tanzania and Namibia.
It is a tragedy that Tanzanians and Namibians have to seek a visa to visit Germany.
Great work covering this topic!
Why now?
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A country willing to reconcile with it's past is one living in the future.
Nice word salad. Put it on a fridge magnet.
@@denkendannhandeln Your words are unironically more hollow.
How could they ever.
ROFL LMFAO
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Yall funny af
It doesn't need to do anything, nice use of time though trying to guilt people lol
Give me money, money, money - this is all it is about. African greed.
European looting of natural resources, genocide and rape of women + kids!
Colonialism is bad actually
@@anshuraj4277 Yes it is bad, and it is in the PAST. It is over and since 60 years not existing anymore. You can make the difference between Past and Present, right?
@@denkendannhandeln the effect ia still there
At the very least... More people should be aware and looted items should be returned
In India.. We are not stuck in past but wealth of 45 trillion dollar was looted
British got rich hy exploiting us
Ofc they can't give money back
But they can apologize and return artifacts like kohinoor
@@anshuraj4277 What if some of your ideas are just are not true?
1.) The British got rich by innovation, not by looting. They invented the whole Industrial Revolution, all machines, electricity, technology. This is what makes countries rich. Innovation and technology. If they stole something from you, please explain to me WHERE exactly should this 45 trillion dollars come from? From what exactly? India was an underdeveloped agrarian society. There was absolutely nothing of that worth that could have been stolen in the first place. If I am wrong, explain to me exactly what they have actually stolen of this valor. You must use common sense here. You can only loot if there is something that can be looted.
2. Indias problems of poverty today are due to problems you are entirely responsible for on your own. Number one problem being overbreeding. It is toxic to have more children that you can highly EDUCATE. Every uneducated human is a drain and burden on a society and it’s development.
3. The looted artefacts is an other topic, here I agree with you that everything should be returned. If it makes you happy, we should do it immediately.
But: I would like you to consider one thing here. Apart from the kohinoor, which is just a stone, there are many beautiful cultural object in our museums. We people in the West and in Europe go to this museums to admire this objects, to admire Indian culture. We cherish them so much, we copy their design, we get inspired by seeing them. Those object in our museums do your counties a very good service here. They are like your ambassadors and make us like, even love you and your culture. I for example am a huge fan of Indian textiles and fashion. And I just adore Indian jewelry, after I have seen some pieces in a museum. They are the most beautiful jewelry and craftsmanship I have ever seen anywhere in this world.
So it can be argued, that having parts of your cultural objects in other countries, can have a very positive effect on your global image and friendship between nations.
Good luck former colonies. Considering Germany 🇩🇪 murdered almost 6 million Poles ravaged their cities and stole their cultural heritage, they think a simple “sorry” is enough to heal those wounds. No reperations, no returning stolen goods, just condescension.
How would they act if Poland murdered 1/4 of their population? Would a simple “sorry” be sufficient?
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