Hey man, just wanted to let you know that I finally got around to restoring my cymbals. Took fkn ages for my sister to become a really good graphic artist because she's a nurse but after a few calls a week for a few years she got the hint and I got the result! Very happy with this method but it does take commitment.
if there are workers to put the logos on with a sharpy you would have to pay 30% more for s cymbals just because of that :D that is the most hardest way to restore a logo id say why not just create a stencil and spay over it??
Looks asome.straight out of the factory.I just got a zildjian master sound hi hats used for &159.bucks at guitar center. All I had to do was clean them up. I love them 14”
i did something similar with a regular sharpie and some wrights copper cream to my 21" mega bell. didn't turn out as nice, but i'm no graphic designer. great work!
I got the same cymbal but a 21. I have not cleaned it because of not losing the logos. I really am impressed and gave me some ideas to work around the paint. You sister created a template for the letters in a sketch. I think you guys are into something if you leave the template on and use the ink from the sharpie. as opposed to paint freehand. Either way, great job restoring the cymbal.
I have a 22" K Custom Ride as well. I bought mine back in 2006 because Dom Howard of Muse played one. I absolutely fell in love with how it sounded on Hullabaloo live. It cuts through the mix in a very musical way - it's not overly aggressive. It's just there, balanced, warm and bright all at once.
Wow! That turned out really nice! Nice to have such an artistic talented sister to help with the project. I hope your enjoying the ride, nothing like that nice ping and stick definition from a 22" cymbal. I really miss my Niel Peart Sabian Paragon ride. Thanks for sharing your project!
Why do you care about saving the logo? Is it because, without the logo, someone could mistakenly think you are using a cheap brand not Paiste, Sabian or Zildjian? Maybe we look less of a drummer without logos? I am trying to figure this out. I don't need to advertise for any of the brands I choose.
i agree with your opinion first and fore most. If you are trying to work on the cymbal in this fashion; by all means apply as you see fit. however, you can extremely discolor or mark up a cymbal applying cleaner directly to the brass. i just thought id drop my 2 cents in case anyone has considered and didn't know of the repercussions. great job restoring! just looking out for unintended results.
Nice! The Alaskan "Guppy" (737) on your computer screen reminded me that we sometimes use what we call a Super sharpie for part marking at Boeing. Good enough for aircraft parts, it should last on a cymbal.
I highly recommend Wright's Copper Cream. Take a first pass with the copper cream. You literally don't need to do anything other than apply it pretty evenly, let it sit for a few minutes and wipe clean. Then rinse it with warm water and dry with a clean cloth. No elbow grease required. THEN take the buffer kit to the cymbal. Waaaaaay less work and better/cleaner finish
You would think in this day and age that the cymbal companies could come up with a very durable logo system...like anodized coating logos... ink is so 200 years ago
Everything thing you said about cymbals I 100% agree with lol. Personally, I prefer the Special Dry series but I also love Zildjian’s traditional and brilliant finishes. I now own a 23” Special Dry ride and I think I prefer 23”s over 22”s.
So the original brilliant shine from Zildjian is actually a clear coat... so if you use power tools (speaking from experience, I use bench buffers) you will blast through that clear coat... your cymbals will get shiny again but they will go back to dirt quickly. You want to preserve that coating as much as possible.
Beautiful cymbals, I love the K’s. They are a serious and expensive investment, way to keep them beautiful! I always keep my kit looking new, and $3000 worth of cymbals too!
Awesome job. What sort of scares me about how perfect the logo looks is that this sort of thing could be dangerous with people looking to falsely brand cheaper cymbals with high-end logos. I've personally never heard of anyone selling "counterfeit" cymbals before, but I'm sure its been done before.
Give me 10 seconds in person and I can spot a fake. You can't fake the quality. When you become intimately familiar with the product everything else is blatantly obvious.
@@collinkennedy5174 I'm obviously not as concerned about seasoned experienced drummers getting ripped off. Theres a ton of young drummers and even older drummers who are new to the instrument who would be much more likey to become the victim of such a scam.
I had a 22" pre serial K Custom. It was the "Ride", but it was only stamped "Custom". It was glassy and elegant. I sort of wish I hadn't sold it. Very hard to find because nobody wants to sell them. Mine was from the pre rotary hammering process. It was from when they were still hammered by hand. The logos were factory perfect, and it was absolutely gorgeous.
I have a traditional finish 22” K ride, all of my other cymbals are Sabian. I tried for quite awhile to find a ride that sounded good to me, and eventually fell in love with the K. It works great for every genre of music, and I think the bell sounds amazing!
Non-scientific experiment with Zildjian Cymbal Cleaner by a drummer: I hope to post this on multiple locations that show the Zildjian Cymbal cleaner. I'll premise this by saying that I've been using Bar keepers friend for a number of years successfully, among other cymbal cleaners over the years. The Zildjian about 15-16 bucks per 8 oz. bottle, I find these cleaners are a great money maker for cymbal companies. Bottom line, I'm a drummer who hopes to spread the word to other drummers to hopefully help them save a buck. I recently bought a new Zildjian brilliant cymbal and wanted to test this cleaner. It comes in a white liquid that one spreads evenly, by sparingly, per the directions, onto both sides of the cymbal. Then it is wiped off with a soft cloth. My first impression was that it is very messy and the black oxidation that comes off (even on a cleaner cymbal like my newest one) is excessive, so one needs plenty of soft clothes. This newest Zildjian cymbal still had a sheen to it, but there were stick marks that the cleaner did not get off. You're going to need a A LOT of elbow grease to get all the polish off. At this stage of my life, I've used up most of my elbow grease. Drummers need to keep in mind that cymbals, like Zildjian, come from the factory with a factory-applied chemical sheen/coat that eventually wears off through cleaning. This is find and purely natural. Bar keepers helper is a world easier. Some people point of that is has an acid in it, but it's a WEAK acid, that won't harm the cymbal. Also, BKF doesn't irritate your hands/fingers, and if it doesn't hurt your skin, it's sure not going to damage/hurt your cymbal. With BKF, wet the cymbal, use the powder of liquid version and a small sponge. Let it sit for a few second, then rise off. Volla! It's comes out with a nice shine, without the endless elbow grease. You may opt for the liquid version of BKF to avoid micro abrasions with the powder, but those are minimal and not noticed by the naked eye. I also like the powder version sometimes so that I can scrub with a soft sponge to get the stick marks off the cymbal. I hope this helps. BMM
Well said. Barkeepers is the only stuff that should be used to clean cymbals. Factory cleaners are not that "exclusive", and indeed not that great either. Waste of money. One big wankfest. BKF for a few dollars runs rings around any so called cymbal cleaner. As for logos, I really do not care if they come off eventually or not. I am not that into showing off what cymbals i have. If they suit me that's all that matters. Brand stamped all over them does nothing to make you play better.
Only thing I'd say is you've probably done a better job than Zildjian, especially the K logo, looks sharper than the factory job to me. Lovely job by the way.
Make a stencil with a “cricut” (vinyl plotter) and mask the area and spray it .... go to a drum show and you will find people will pay you for what costs you pennies
For SABIAN owners, I believe they still offer the cleaning and restamping of the ink logos. For not too bad of a price including shipping. Why not have a cymbal looking like it was new again by the company that made it. I don't know if Zildjian offers the similar service.
@@MatteoCremaBL cymbals are actually made via the process of removing metal. lathing and hammering reductive processes are what make cymbals have tonal individuality. furthermore, removing that black tarnished metal is not the worst thing you can do to a cymbal, but the best, as it quits clogging up tonal grooves and allows the cymbal to open up and breathe.
I notice that despite extensive polishing you still didn't get ALL the old logo off. Looks awesome though. I have some really old 60's Zildjian cymbals which have all the logos engraved, so polishing is a breeze!
You should open up a business doing this!!! Have a price for cleaning and for cleaning amd RE-Logo installation!!! This would be a market you could really bring to life I believe!!! Uhhhh mazin job!!
I like my Traditional finish 22” K ride. I just use almond or lemon oil to clean it. Brilliant finishes are nice, but they get dirty so quickly and noticeably.
I am pretty sure when u played it you did a mess on your heads because of sharpie's ink ! it may look good and your sis did a great job hand lettering it like a comment below says, use tampography so u don't get all ur kit and other cymbals dirty.
Would be awesome if someone started selling die-cut negative stickers that you could use as a stencil but I am not sure about the licensing since it will have to be the word and logo. On the other hand, you would think Zildjian and Sabian would like for their cymbals to have their logos prominently displayed.
Normally people want the patina, it makes cymbals sound better than bright shiny cymbals. I regretted making mine shiny again and wished I never did it.
It removes unwanted overtones, and you don't need moongel or tape to do that. I guess you don't think cymbals sounds improve with age either? And even cymbal manufacturers will tell you it does. Shiny glossy is just for looks. Check out the sandblasted and pitted cymbals available now. And paint especially red, black, blue, whatever mutes more. So why do people buy those? Looks. They sure aren't better than my thirty years old 2002s and original zildjian (before there were A & K types). Cymbals are like fine wine, they get better with age.
Wizzle actually, at my school we have a zildjian flat ride that hasn’t been cleaned in probably 10 years. And when we cleaned it it altered the sound some. Made it a little brighter, not too noticeable but it definitely changed some.
Hey man, just wanted to let you know that I finally got around to restoring my cymbals. Took fkn ages for my sister to become a really good graphic artist because she's a nurse but after a few calls a week for a few years she got the hint and I got the result! Very happy with this method but it does take commitment.
That's awesome! I sharpie my K logos when I see them starting to wear. Cudos!
Ur sister should work for zildijan or u should make a company on restoring the logos and ask for a price and get paid and be rich
Shahid Ullah you're thinking too much. Lol
David I was being sarcastic cuz everyone in the comments (well most of em) are saying she should work for zildijan and shit
if there are workers to put the logos on with a sharpy you would have to pay 30% more for s cymbals just because of that :D that is the most hardest way to restore a logo id say why not just create a stencil and spay over it??
she spit on the cymbal 😂
@@Matus0919 😂
Beautiful job 👏 love your drum room with that SWEET Sabres Jersey framed on the wall!
Looks asome.straight out of the factory.I just got a zildjian master sound hi hats used for &159.bucks at guitar center. All I had to do was clean them up. I love them 14”
Came out awesome! Nice job, both of you.
I have the same cymbal, actually one of the early ones.
I was wincing when you were using the power drill buffer...thank god my logos are fine.
Showroom quality !! Excellent job!!
i did something similar with a regular sharpie and some wrights copper cream to my 21" mega bell. didn't turn out as nice, but i'm no graphic designer. great work!
Oh yea... subscribed, your other videos are great. You're a good drummer, and that ride in your other videos, sounds amazing!!!! 👍👍
Really, really good stuff! Awesome project that other drummers will love. Hope Zildjian picks this up.
I got the same cymbal but a 21. I have not cleaned it because of not losing the logos. I really am impressed and gave me some ideas to work around the paint. You sister created a template for the letters in a sketch. I think you guys are into something if you leave the template on and use the ink from the sharpie. as opposed to paint freehand. Either way, great job restoring the cymbal.
I have the exact same ride now I know who to take it too lol, great job
Beautiful work!!! So inspiring! 😍
I have a 22" K Custom Ride as well. I bought mine back in 2006 because Dom Howard of Muse played one. I absolutely fell in love with how it sounded on Hullabaloo live. It cuts through the mix in a very musical way - it's not overly aggressive. It's just there, balanced, warm and bright all at once.
Wow! That turned out really nice! Nice to have such an artistic talented sister to help with the project. I hope your enjoying the ride, nothing like that nice ping and stick definition from a 22" cymbal. I really miss my Niel Peart Sabian Paragon ride. Thanks for sharing your project!
I play only Zildjian cymbals. Before I totally lost the decals I colored them in with sharpie markers. Worked out great.
Why do you care about saving the logo? Is it because, without the logo, someone could mistakenly think you are using a cheap brand not Paiste, Sabian or Zildjian? Maybe we look less of a drummer without logos? I am trying to figure this out. I don't need to advertise for any of the brands I choose.
@@thomastucker5686I personally just like the way it looks a little better with them on
Everyone loves their K cymbal..
Thank you for the sound demo!!
i agree with your opinion first and fore most. If you are trying to work on the cymbal in this fashion; by all means apply as you see fit. however, you can extremely discolor or mark up a cymbal applying cleaner directly to the brass. i just thought id drop my 2 cents in case anyone has considered and didn't know of the repercussions.
great job restoring! just looking out for unintended results.
looks great, like it's in the music store back in the 90s.
Nice! The Alaskan "Guppy" (737) on your computer screen reminded me that we sometimes use what we call a Super sharpie for part marking at Boeing. Good enough for aircraft parts, it should last on a cymbal.
This is awesome, if I get a new Sabian cymbal I’ll polish the ugly logo off and put on the old logo! :)
I highly recommend Wright's Copper Cream. Take a first pass with the copper cream. You literally don't need to do anything other than apply it pretty evenly, let it sit for a few minutes and wipe clean. Then rinse it with warm water and dry with a clean cloth. No elbow grease required. THEN take the buffer kit to the cymbal. Waaaaaay less work and better/cleaner finish
You would think in this day and age that the cymbal companies could come up with a very durable logo system...like anodized coating logos... ink is so 200 years ago
I wish it was just like engraved in but you could still see it
Congrats to your sister
Make Cymbal Great Again! :-D great job man!
Everything thing you said about cymbals I 100% agree with lol. Personally, I prefer the Special Dry series but I also love Zildjian’s traditional and brilliant finishes.
I now own a 23” Special Dry ride and I think I prefer 23”s over 22”s.
Looks amazing
Buen trabajo amigo!!!!
Saludos desde México!
So the original brilliant shine from Zildjian is actually a clear coat... so if you use power tools (speaking from experience, I use bench buffers) you will blast through that clear coat... your cymbals will get shiny again but they will go back to dirt quickly. You want to preserve that coating as much as possible.
That's pretty cool!
I still have my 22” K Custom Ride I love it. Great video.
Thats awesome david.
i use to use permanent sharpe markers on the faded logos and it worked just fine and it looked new
You've made an excellent job in restoring the beautiful cymbal! I have a K Custom 20” Medium Ride and it's an amazing cymbal
Nice, I have a 22" that I've had for 23 years. It has the block letters vs the "fancy" writing.
There is a logo branded into the cymbal...this how you can tell the real from fake
I left my ride outside in the garden for 3 mouth , sounds great
Real nice! You must be a drummer! :)
Beautiful cymbals, I love the K’s. They are a serious and expensive investment, way to keep them beautiful! I always keep my kit looking new, and $3000 worth of cymbals too!
Very impressive 🙏
GREAT job to both of you. Beautiful ride! I have the 20"
Nice job !
Looks good man
Awesome job.
What sort of scares me about how perfect the logo looks is that this sort of thing could be dangerous with people looking to falsely brand cheaper cymbals with high-end logos. I've personally never heard of anyone selling "counterfeit" cymbals before, but I'm sure its been done before.
They'd have to forge th4 etching as well
Give me 10 seconds in person and I can spot a fake. You can't fake the quality. When you become intimately familiar with the product everything else is blatantly obvious.
@@collinkennedy5174 I'm obviously not as concerned about seasoned experienced drummers getting ripped off. Theres a ton of young drummers and even older drummers who are new to the instrument who would be much more likey to become the victim of such a scam.
Fantastic! And what king of marker do you use to repair the logo's? I may have missed that.
I had a 22" pre serial K Custom. It was the "Ride", but it was only stamped "Custom".
It was glassy and elegant. I sort of wish I hadn't sold it. Very hard to find because nobody wants to sell them.
Mine was from the pre rotary hammering process. It was from when they were still hammered by hand.
The logos were factory perfect, and it was absolutely gorgeous.
I have this exact cymbal in a 20" I've always wanted a 22" but never found one. I don't think Zildjian makes them anymore :(
beautiful!
Wowzers!!!!☝️☝️☝️👏👏👏
I have a traditional finish 22” K ride, all of my other cymbals are Sabian. I tried for quite awhile to find a ride that sounded good to me, and eventually fell in love with the K. It works great for every genre of music, and I think the bell sounds amazing!
So you basically have all Zildjian lol I always joke about that bc I also have a mix and they’re the same family
Good job on the symbol
Non-scientific experiment with Zildjian Cymbal Cleaner by a drummer: I hope to post this on multiple locations that show the Zildjian Cymbal cleaner. I'll premise this by saying that I've been using Bar keepers friend for a number of years successfully, among other cymbal cleaners over the years. The Zildjian about 15-16 bucks per 8 oz. bottle, I find these cleaners are a great money maker for cymbal companies. Bottom line, I'm a drummer who hopes to spread the word to other drummers to hopefully help them save a buck.
I recently bought a new Zildjian brilliant cymbal and wanted to test this cleaner. It comes in a white liquid that one spreads evenly, by sparingly, per the directions, onto both sides of the cymbal. Then it is wiped off with a soft cloth. My first impression was that it is very messy and the black oxidation that comes off (even on a cleaner cymbal like my newest one) is excessive, so one needs plenty of soft clothes. This newest Zildjian cymbal still had a sheen to it, but there were stick marks that the cleaner did not get off. You're going to need a A LOT of elbow grease to get all the polish off. At this stage of my life, I've used up most of my elbow grease.
Drummers need to keep in mind that cymbals, like Zildjian, come from the factory with a factory-applied chemical sheen/coat that eventually wears off through cleaning. This is find and purely natural. Bar keepers helper is a world easier. Some people point of that is has an acid in it, but it's a WEAK acid, that won't harm the cymbal. Also, BKF doesn't irritate your hands/fingers, and if it doesn't hurt your skin, it's sure not going to damage/hurt your cymbal.
With BKF, wet the cymbal, use the powder of liquid version and a small sponge. Let it sit for a few second, then rise off. Volla! It's comes out with a nice shine, without the endless elbow grease. You may opt for the liquid version of BKF to avoid micro abrasions with the powder, but those are minimal and not noticed by the naked eye. I also like the powder version sometimes so that I can scrub with a soft sponge to get the stick marks off the cymbal.
I hope this helps. BMM
Well said. Barkeepers is the only stuff that should be used to clean cymbals. Factory cleaners are not that "exclusive", and indeed not that great either. Waste of money. One big wankfest. BKF for a few dollars runs rings around any so called cymbal cleaner. As for logos, I really do not care if they come off eventually or not. I am not that into showing off what cymbals i have. If they suit me that's all that matters. Brand stamped all over them does nothing to make you play better.
Super cool. I too play a Zildjan 22” ride. You’re exactly right. No other ride can compare.
Only thing I'd say is you've probably done a better job than Zildjian, especially the K logo, looks sharper than the factory job to me. Lovely job by the way.
Make a stencil with a “cricut” (vinyl plotter) and mask the area and spray it .... go to a drum show and you will find people will pay you for what costs you pennies
Would you recommend the same method for a HHX brilliant cymbal? I have the sabian clean/polish cymbal cleaner, so I just need this buffering kit.
For SABIAN owners, I believe they still offer the cleaning and restamping of the ink logos. For not too bad of a price including shipping. Why not have a cymbal looking like it was new again by the company that made it. I don't know if Zildjian offers the similar service.
beautiful
Love it man! /. / I did same thing 20 years ago and my friends thought that I was absolutely nuts.
Wow dude! Impressive! Rock on! 🥁😎DC
A lot of the "black" that was coming off was tiny amounts of metal and not dirt.
and it's the worst thing you can do to a cymbal...remove the metal...
F
@@MatteoCremaBL cymbals are actually made via the process of removing metal. lathing and hammering reductive processes are what make cymbals have tonal individuality. furthermore, removing that black tarnished metal is not the worst thing you can do to a cymbal, but the best, as it quits clogging up tonal grooves and allows the cymbal to open up and breathe.
Looks Good
Was that a Posca Pen paint marker? I use those instead of sharpies because clear coat won’t melt it
Amazing job! The cymbal looks gorgeous again 👌🏼
Nice job...
You should be able to get replacement logos from Zildjian. I think I still have a couple around somewhere.
Parabéns. Ficou lindo. Perfeito.
Rapaz eu retoco os logos dos meu Zildjians K apenas limpo com um pano seco esse negócio de dar polimento no prato o mesmo destempera é quebra !!!
Hi, I fricken love you for this
Brother you complicated the process way too much you could do this with tampography (as Zildjian does) I work with screen printing and its easy
Can you teach me how to do it, man?
Kindly some more info on this please Alex :)
Great work. Cymbal looks gorgeous 👍
Polishing you need highRPM’s and need to create heat to get high luster good job guy!
I have that exact cymbal. Don’t think it was that shiny from the factory but it looks great
Wich marker do you use? It's hard to find the perfect one......
Who’s version of ‘blackbird’ the musicality is phenomenal. I must have it, if that’s you on drums then😳😅 superb
Good Job
You could also set up a silk screen. That's how they do it at the factory
I notice that despite extensive polishing you still didn't get ALL the old logo off. Looks awesome though. I have some really old 60's Zildjian cymbals which have all the logos engraved, so polishing is a breeze!
Exactly what type of sharpie did yall use? Thanks 😊
What paint do you use to rewrite the logo on the cymbal?
Hey! Now I can make counterfeit Zildjian K’s! Thanks
You should open up a business doing this!!! Have a price for cleaning and for cleaning amd RE-Logo installation!!! This would be a market you could really bring to life I believe!!! Uhhhh mazin job!!
I like my Traditional finish 22” K ride. I just use almond or lemon oil to clean it. Brilliant finishes are nice, but they get dirty so quickly and noticeably.
Very cool video! Looks like a brand new cymbal!
Hard work often pays of. Nice one 👌
nice! what version of blackbird is this?
I am pretty sure when u played it you did a mess on your heads because of sharpie's ink ! it may look good and your sis did a great job hand lettering it like a comment below says, use tampography so u don't get all ur kit and other cymbals dirty.
What’s that thing on the drill you’re using to clean the cymbal? Thanks
whats that special marker called??
which drill extension you used for polishing?
What did you use for Laquer afterwards?
I was told long ago to NEVER use a power tool across the grain (grooves). Always move in the direction of the grooves.
Hey man was this a gift from a friend lol I sold mine around that time
Would be awesome if someone started selling die-cut negative stickers that you could use as a stencil but I am not sure about the licensing since it will have to be the word and logo. On the other hand, you would think Zildjian and Sabian would like for their cymbals to have their logos prominently displayed.
If you like that ride, you’ve gotta try the Monster A Zildjian 22” Earth Ride “Brilliant”!
What or where you found theses buffer pads?
Normally people want the patina, it makes cymbals sound better than bright shiny cymbals.
I regretted making mine shiny again and wished I never did it.
gaboogablah oh god here we go. Tarnish only mutes the cymbal. It inhibits vibrations. It's all it does.
It removes unwanted overtones, and you don't need moongel or tape to do that.
I guess you don't think cymbals sounds improve with age either? And even cymbal manufacturers will tell you it does.
Shiny glossy is just for looks. Check out the sandblasted and pitted cymbals available now. And paint especially red, black, blue, whatever mutes more. So why do people buy those? Looks. They sure aren't better than my thirty years old 2002s and original zildjian (before there were A & K types). Cymbals are like fine wine, they get better with age.
I'm gonna continue to clean my cymbals, thanks.
And keep scrubbing the heads too. And get that nasty coating off the snare batter too.
gaboogablah will do 👍
Ya know they use to apply thin coat of polyurethane after polishing to avoid rusting..
just the comment I was looking for
I have a zbt splash can she put the k logo there
What kind of chip dip is that?
did you notice much difference in the sound before and after?
Theres not going to be a difference in sound from a damn sharpie. C'mon man...
Wizzle actually, at my school we have a zildjian flat ride that hasn’t been cleaned in probably 10 years. And when we cleaned it it altered the sound some. Made it a little brighter, not too noticeable but it definitely changed some.
@@jP-nr5wo Well yeah, you're talking about 10 years worth of patina. Thats a whole different sport compared to some marker. C'mon man.