Rollback Repair and CNC Machine Moving
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
- We need to move a 21,000lb (10,000kg) CNC machining center from Chicago to St. Louis. First we need to fix the rollback. Then we need to deal with the coldest temperatures of the year.
Kind of a slapped together video, but it's the best I can do at the moment!
Scotch locks are great, they provide an instant visual clue when diagnosing wiring faults.
One of the best, most down to earth channels out there right now. Love your style Wes, you always give me a good chuckle.
"probably something were not going to like in there" 🤣🤣🤣 nailed it. Made my day
Your tarp job looks better than a lot of these so called professional flat bedders I've seen good job
I just 'LOVE' figuring out other peoples wiring!! Have spent countless hours fixing , my and other drivers rear lights. Ohio weather and salted roads have a way of destroying wiring!! Another very enjoyable video!!!
I miss having a big rollback around. Super useful trucks, thanks for bringing us along!
It's handy, but man it's expensive!
The beatings will continue until morale improves keep up the good work Wes
Our Jerr Dan rollback had the wiring in the bed as the lights all moved with it. Keeping everything working on it was a constant battle. I eventually installed a flexible cable tray for a CNC to run the harness and hoses in and it helped a ton.
I think Jonathan W did that on the rollback he built. Seems like a good idea. I've had to replace the hoses already.
Completely stopped what I was doing to start watching this video. 🤫 don’t tell my boss.
As long as he/she doesn't read the comments we should be fine!
Same 🤣🤣🤣
Yep, try not to miss one, or be late watching.
Cheers bud
Love the video Wes. Your OCD must be more controlled than mine. When I saw that wiring mess I wanted to rip it all out and start over. I found something like that in my GF's boat. Then I cut one wire and found out they didn't use marine grade wire. I told her, this project now took on 3 times the amount of time. I changed out all the wire and had all the lights working right for the trailer on her vehicle. I hope to never have to do that again.
Trailer wiring is a disaster, even from the factory.
You've got a hoss of a rollback there.
No other technical system has caused more swearing and heartburn than trailer and truck wiring.
Just imagine what it must be like in places where they use Lucas components.
You really have a very nice shop there.
Sure is!
Somebody's been watching SMA and VGG. "There's yer problem, lady". "He did the 'right' thing".
I never miss either one.
@@WatchWesWork I think you meant to say "a guy never misses either one". Ha ha ha. Have a good one, Wes.
Ok I give up what is SMA? If it is anything like VGG I want to check it out.
@@anthonyb8362 SMA is Eric in Upstate NY. Very cool videos.
Lade's Eddy - What does it stand for??
That caulking gave me flashbacks to the time I was diagnosing a fuel pump issue and found that an enterprising previous owner had JB Welded the bare wire ends onto the terminals of the pump.
Did this for 15years...worked for GALLERY OF MACHINES out of Marathon new york...we had a rollback and lots of hard work..
I have heard of them.
When I saw those wires, I just started laughing. An evil laugh. Please don't let me get ahold of that guy.
Thank you for including the metric equivalents for the rest of us!
boy, that L10 sounds really good.
When the STC is working, it's pretty smooth.
Nice to see a CNC machine in the shop!! You rock Wes.
It's not mine, but it was in my shop for a few days...
Wes I too always stop what I am doing to watch your videos. Thank you for taking time to make them.
Thanks man!
Hi, great stuff Wes, many thanks for posting. From England and we thought it was cold!! 0c.
Prefer to solder the wires together, heat shrink with glue inside over that, then the wires in the loom are taped with the fire proof fabric tape made by Tessa. Done entire looms in this way and they hold up perfectly. Love the vid!
Nothin like owning a nice big flat bed truck to haul things around on, "thats REEL nice there" Keep them videos a comin WES :)
Forever chassis ground (only worth doing on a vehicle you're going to keep awhile): 1) Shiny up a spot on the vehicle frame; 2) solder a brass disc or washer to the frame; 3) drill & tap for 6-32, 8-32, or whatever screw; 4) make ground connection. The brass will take almost forever to corrode, & if it does, simply remove the screw & terminals & shiny the brass back up. And yes, you can solder brass to steel. | I suspect you already know about this one, as you've forgotten more about fixing stuff than I've ever known, but you never know...Thanks again for all your good work & Happy Trails!
The best thing to do is go right back to the battery. The factory harnesses use grounds on the firewall that usually last the life of the truck. But I like the brass idea!
@@WatchWesWork The little of this type of work I do now, I usually run ground wires to everything & ignore chassis ground. This works well, but unfortunately is much less likely to produce a neat light show for those following me, particularly on a bumpy road.
Nobody can argue about how well a good star ground works. They do argue about how much extra wire they have to run and pay for, though.
Tank straps are rated for 10,000 pounds sold by SRKcycles in Lancaster PA!!! Thanks 🙏
Again it was a pleasure to watch you work Wes🛠, keep 'm comin' man!.👍😉
Sometimes it is really unbelievable and a pity what all sorts of bad work bad mechanics do. But you got sorted it out at last. 👍👌👏
Eh. People are just lazy, or they don't know any better.
I've siliconed wires I've ran through a dump trailer frame cause I had no rubber grommets at the time. Hasn't cut through them yet in about 10 years.
Every time I think about cold starts I remember our first Deutz tractors had a 110 and 140 and a 160. They had actual fired style glow plugs where it actually made a flame in the intake to warm them to start. But our 110 would start no mater the temp same with the 160. The 140 never started well. I ended up getting a timing wheel and found the times to be off once that was corrected those air cooled engines always started and pulling them hard you could still hold the oil end of the dipstick in your hand. Always enjoy your content 👍
I have seen Perkins engines with that flame manifold heater. They don't work very well. I've been told the Deutz engines had to be designed to start well since you can't really plug in a block heater to get them warmed up.
Got to love CNC machines Wes..Once, the maintenance guys over filled the gas in the cooler on my then CNC machining centre on the day shift, I worked the night shift, but as it got colder so did the hydraulic oil in the machine causing concern as it was moving the XYZ settings as it "shrunk" - had to call out a very angry guy from maintenance to release/ capture some gas back, so my machine could get back to a safer running temperature.... We ran them 24 hours a day, 7 days a week when pushing hard to get the work out... (mostly AIRBUS parts or ROLLSROYCE AERO parts), but, loved my job.."Back then"..lol... love being retired better now though... Thanks for the video WES. (Ian) - UK.
Yeah retirement sounds better than picking metal chips out of your boots...
@@WatchWesWork Indeed Wes, most Airbus work was high grade alloy, but I also done lots of Magnesium "gearbox cases" for R/R Aero and Magnesium and that is a pain as you get thin needles in your skin but makes dust and mess all over the place not to mention fire If you let the cutting tools/drills dwell, then there was titanium, that too can burn..SO glad I retired - lol.. As a school boy I used to pick metal swarf from my dads work boots, but he always said - your wasting your time lad.. but, he was my dad bless him..
I have two float trailers two dump trailer a horse trailer and on small one. This is the story of my life. Take care Wes
Gotta love those deep deep deep dives
St. Louis! Well hell, brother, you have a new subscriber from South County!
I was puckering just watching ya unload that thing. Well done sir, well done.
Remembering the days I started doing removals boss had a couple of ford d-series, the 7.5 ton one had a excess fuel cold start lever just behind and above the front bumper, pulled it up,
then went to press the go pedal - hear a tiny 'click', then fire her up and explode into life immediately and cloud the whole yard with white/grey smoke. Glow plugs are for wusses! Great video, Wes!
I've seen that system on Perkins engines. No thanks!
Great video, and your roll back truck is awesome!
Boy you need to get around and make a ramp to go on the tail end of that bed. The pucker factor of the skates coming off the bed is very high.
Btw, since I live in the middle of oak country (Ozarks) would you like some sawmill contacts for new deck boards? You dont need a passport to come to Missouri from the Peoples Republic of Chicago if you only stay a day or two.
Dang you Wes, I was drinking coffee about to head into the shop to make some $$ for the day, and you upload a 20 min video... of course i had to watch. How about a video where you find a derelict CNC machine neglected in the woods and you get it making chips again??
Heh. I know where there's an American Pacemaker engine lathe that's been sitting outside my entire life. I don't think it would be worth saving at this point...
@@WatchWesWork but you never know unless you try. Just pick on you Wes. Nice cold start 21⁰ now we are having a heat wave but, it is about to end back to freezing again.
I bet you could get that pacemaker to make chips man.
@@WatchWesWork - what a scraping project!
Currently restoring a machine that sat outside for some time, apparently. Rust lines on all of the bearings. No thank you.
Compression is good❤
Do you know how you have childhood flashbacks with bad brakes on your equipment? Mine is trailer lights and wiring harnesses. My dad would spend hours with a pen knife cutting into the wiring on his truck trying to get the flashers and turn signals to work. I can still here himhollering LEFT, RIGHT, BRAKES. Ever since then I have adopted the habit of running a dedicated ground that is soldered to the frame. This tends to eliminate 99% of mysterious problems and happened with lighting especially on trailers. I think the old wiring there gave me a ptsd attack lol. Good job on fixing it
On semi trailers they have a sealed harness with a dedicated ground for every light. That's the best way.
scotch locks give the hacks a quick fix and the rest of the world job security. rollback did very nicely.
Someone told me they were designed for tapping into old analog phone lines. I could see it working for that. But they don't work on a truck.
Watch Wes Work they are and I’ve seen them all over my house.
"yell if you see something scary I guess" Lol! That had me chuckling. I can't count how many people I've seen over the years, who would "help" with something, and just watch a disaster as it unfolds. It never fails, afterwards, they say "I saw that was going to happen". It's funny how many people will just sit silent. Not saying this fella on here would've, your comment just made me think of a bunch of instances is all. Thanks for the content Sir!
PS. I refuse to scroll through the comments to see all the "why don't you put new boards on the bed" comments Lol!
i like when he says i guess say that a lot i guess
There's nothing more important when working with heavy equipment than having a helper who you can trust.
@@WatchWesWork That's a fact!
I used to install underground sensors and probes for the fuel business. The install kits are intrinsically safe and not only use legitimate blue wire nuts, but also a two-part epoxy pack that pots the wires and holds on with a wire tie (all included in a kit.) Those were pretty reliable in the field.
Interesting. I wonder how they would do with vibration. That's the killer in a vehicle or machine.
@@WatchWesWork The entire stripped wire parts are entirely potted, so I can only imagine that vibrations are minimal within the block. The resin is hard yet kind of flexible. Look for 3M Scotch-cast kits.
Crusty wires, and rust, diagnosis...high salt diet 🤔.
Great vlog Wes, thanks for sharing.
Yeah, plus who knows how old it might be. The chassis is almost 30 years old, but the bed might be even older.
I guess it is a lot easier to grab a 4 wire trailer wiring harness to replace all the wires from the junction box to the back, and then split into different lights. Maybe two extra wires if it has independent rear turn signals.
Love the channel!!!
Thanks man!
Thanks for sharing Wes 👍🇦🇺
That CNC mill reminds me of the Leadwell MCVOP unit that I trained on back in 1996. Never got good enough to get a machinist job that lasted though, but I did learn a lot about how things are made.
'I'm not good at tarping' BS. you did a damn good job. it looks great to me
You might not want to know how long it took...
@@WatchWesWork does not matter. it looks good, did it's job. considering it's not something you do every day. It's awesome.
Scotch locks were made for phone system wiring ( or wires in a sealed area, inside a pedestal never moving down the road).
Filled Scotchloks are only meant to prevent corrosion from ambient humidity. They'll get corroded green and will open up if they get constantly exposed to salt slush/water.
They were never intended to be used on vehicles. But, you know how it goes...
Nice work! glad I stumbled upon your Channel!
Need to add a crane to that rig. We had one and a flat bed White. Way back. Move most anything. Good job , didn’t brake it lol.
It's heavy enough already! Our weight laws are so restricted that we can barely haul any weight.
Specs online say the base machine weighs around 19200lbs
That seems more likely.
I love it Wes the bad ass trucker.
Eight degrees Farenheit sounds warmer than Minus bloody Fifteen Celcius! Jesus that's cold buh! Greetings from the UK in the fens!
The record low for my state was set last year about 20 miles from where I live. -36F. That's pretty much the same as -36C.
I do enjoy the variety of stuff on your channel. If you ever get a chance maybe a video on turning up the fuel on the old mechanical fuel pumps. Always heard people talk about it but no clue how it works
I don't know how to do that either.
I remember when the boys unloaded our two cnc machines. They brought a big forklift, an old hyster which lifted the machine into our shop in one. Was pretty rusty, also leaking hydraulic fluid. Got the job done though
Well that's the easy way!
“So There’s Your Problem Lady!”...
...way too funny Wes! You sounded just like Eric O. with South Main Auto!
Yeah. I love Eric O!
I drive two roll backs. One international that I chased down my lighting problems and a Ford rollback that has headlights that blink on and off whenever they want. I had a paramedic stop in front of me, get out of his vehicle and ask me if anything was wrong. He saw my lights flashing. Thats the way it goes for me
I had a Ford like that once...
Good job, Wes.
I thought the rollback was a trailer, it took me a minute to realize i've been looking at that awesome mack truck!
It's on a Volvo WG42 chassis.
Yeah.... It might be time to rewire that thing from the cab back ;) That's pretty gnarly. And for what it's worth, the 8.3L Cummins in my M931A2 had your engine beat in terms of starting. Even on super cold days, it would start so fast that you couldn't even take your hand off of the switch before it was running :) I installed a block heater in it when I bought it, but it turned out to be unnecessary. That was my first diesel-powered vehicle, and after all of the "horror stories" that I had heard about cold starting them, I was pleasantly surprised by that Cummins engine :)
If they have good compression they will usually start.
thats such a handy truck!
If you can stay within its height and weight limits it's pretty awesome!
Hi Wes. Has always I liked,Shared. All my best.
Good job. Thanks again
That guy who wired your truck sure gets around. I think he’s the same one who put scotch locks on my trailer brake wires.
He sure gets around!
Hi Wes. That lift doesn't look like a 58k lift. Kinda small and pneumatic style tires. Love that rollback. Saw some gloves. Wife should like that. Lol
Great vid as per Wes.
Al.
I moved, hauled machinery for 30+ years. A couple pointers. Put a piece of 1/2 inch plywood between skates and machine. This will keep machine from sliding on skates. Also think about having sections of maybe 1/8 inch steel plates to run skate/with machine when loading and unloading machine. This will keep machine from going through wood floor. This had happened to me when skates were not on main beams of trailer.
I'm with you on the scotch locks... Pure junk. I'm in your climate so i can relate to corroded wiring. Often the lights last longer than the connectors.
We have the steerable skate on plywood. You probably can't see it in the video. I've found that the only way to keep the skates from popping out when they transition to the concrete is to nest the machine base into the notches in the top of the skate. Otherwise, as soon as the machine is at an angle to the top of the skate, they want to shoot out toward the front of the truck.
I think I could listen to that old girl idle all day
0:20 That sir, is most probably the sexiest diesel coldstart on youtube.
Love the truck!!! Cummins power 👍
"Meltage", I like that, a term not normally used in the super professional equipment repair world that Wes works in, but here on Wes's CZcams channel he prefers to speak to me in terms that I can understand. Hmmm, maybe 18,000lbs on that fork lift...?
Great video sir.
Thank you.
Meltage baby!
Ha, ha, ha... Yup.
I did not know they made that style scotchloks for stranded wire. I installed thousands of those splicing cable over the years but that style I always thought was only for solid strand wire. I did not choose the connector for work but on solid wire they worked well until you get a lightening hit then they open. Have you seen B or beanie connectors, looks like a little rat rubber? I never had one of them open and they are jelly filled, no frosting though. On stranded wire I solder it, those heatgun solder connectors look nice and easy. Seems like the truck was a very good choice for you to purchase. Stay safe and hug your kid.
I don't believe they are approved for stranded wire. They are also not SAE approved or anything like that. But they are cheap and easy, so I see them all the time.
My wife dislikes your videos, she was out.... .i watched ..it rained...the washing got soaked!......Haha .thanks for the superior entertainment!
-13....fts... I hate the cold i dont miss those cold chicago mornings one bit!! I cry when it gets below 60 here in tx lol
Very nice work
Cool video 👍
I could drink a beer with the guy who wired this truck.
You can buy those heat shrink (with glue) butt crimps in packs of 200 for $20 on amazon.
Actually just ordered more as I get to do some work on my car Friday.
I also recommend ratcheting crimps.
I probably have a dozen ratcheting crimpers. I have not found them to work any better than good quality old school crimpers.
I've found once adjusted properly they are far more consistent.
I do have a better set, with interchangeable jaws for different crimps or pins etc.
But whatever works.
For those heat-shrink crimps, the glue is just hot melt glue, so you can add a little extra if you need it.
👍 c'mon spring!
I know. I've got terminal cabin fever.
I would've done an LED upgrade to those lights? Also order replace the wiring from that box to the back truck
Replace the box aswell?😂
If it’s his truck, I doubt he’ll replace something that works.
Thumbs up 👍 nice and slow well done ✅
Not that you need suggestions, but if you ever work on your son's power wheels, a great gag would be to strap it to the rollback and shoot multiple angles dramatically backing it into the shop, not quite revealing what it is until the last minute.
Good job Wes. That is pretty cold weather there....
I think it was the coldest day of the year.
I love cold start videos, today in California it’s going to be in the 80’s
Bastard
Must be nice.
It's 72 in Tampa right now 😁
@@lustfulvengance Predicting 8 inches of snow and "nasty" weather here.
@@WatchWesWork It is!
Nice work! I laugh every time.....every time you say that’s your problem lady:-0)
Jim
,,good repair, great vid..
This is the first time I've watched your channel , and I did enjoy your vid. But from the way you talked during your wiring repair , I'd say your more than a big fan of Ol' Eric O. '' Green crusty's '' "Your problem Lady'' ect..
I never miss Eric O!
That back end wiring looks like it might need to be completely redone in the future.
Have you benn hanging with the Vice Grip Garage Guy (yea, do the right thing) lol
That would be a nice forklift to have.
I'd have been trying to load that old Chevy 4x4 they had in the building there.
It is pretty sweet!
i think i learnt more of electrics from this video than 10 years of my past life lol
We're just scratching the surface of bad wiring...
Good job mate 👍👍
Scotch locks are fine......indoors ;)
great job
I saw that smirk when you got out lol. L10 is a good engine.
It sure starts good. I don't think I even got one full revolution of the crank!