What's My Line? - Harry Belafonte; PANEL: Mark Goodson, Ginger Rogers (Feb 13, 1966)
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- čas přidán 13. 01. 2015
- MYSTERY GUEST: Harry Belafonte
PANEL: Mark Goodson, Ginger Rogers, Arlene Francis, Bennett Cerf
NOTE: Closing credits added from an older rerun pre-GSN-credit-crunching.
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Harry Belafonte was an absolutely gorgeous man.
Not just WAS -- he's still alive!
I think it was very cute to see how excited Bennett got when he guessed Harry Belafinte correctly
Oh yea...heehee..so cute....ick !!
He cheated through out the whole run of the show!!!
@@josephpalermo4538 All you've proven is that Bennett was hella smarter than you'll ever be.
This was awesome seeing the boss Mark Goodson on the panel! He did well. 👏👏
@Beatnik Bennett Cerf's wife's cousin was Ginger Rogers. Bennett Cerf's wife's name was Phyllis.
Rosemary Smith drove a Sunbeam Alpine. That was the car used by Maxwell Smart in the TV series Get Smart, which premiered a few months before this episode. The car driven by Max was actually called the Sunbeam Tiger, which was the V-8 version of the Alpine.
Nearly identical cars. They missed it by that much!
@@robbob1234 😂 😂 😂
Mark Goodson was a surprisingly clever panelist. If anyone at all suspected him to cheat, then they also had to consider him a genius, only judged by the way he both asked and drew his conclusions. Well done.
All the ladies on this show, both on the panel and the contestants were attractive. Arlene Francis is a very smart woman on this show and all the other WML shows.
Mark Goodson seemed like a lovely man. Smart too.
i have been binging for a week. love the show,
Planning this episode must have been a logistical nightmare. How do you keep the identity of the guests (celebrity and non-celebrity alike) secret from the boss for at least a week if not more? They would have needed to create an entirely separate operation for one show and then hope during a winter that had already seen more of bad, snowy weather, that any of the planned challengers wouldn't be prevented from arriving at the studio on time. And everyone had to make sure they didn't slip, whether Mark Goodson was there in person or on the phone.
At least back in 1966 they didn't have to worry about accidentally including him on the wrong e-mail.
I didn't want to re watch these episodes just yet because I wasn't ready to let go of Dorothy. But I wanted to watch every episode that Harry Belafonte was in since he died Yesterday. After this one I will have re watched them all.
I feel exactly what you're saying, Debra. It was difficult for me to watch the episodes without Miss Dorothy-who was hands down my favorite panelist-and now it is still a bit difficult but I still enjoy the show very much.
The ladies of the panel are both especially glamours in this episode .
John: Do mice have waists? Let's not waste anymore time on that! 14:10 :)
IMdB lists Ginger Rogers as a panelist only this once, but she appeared as a mystery guest five times.
"This might be our last anniversary." almost prophetic. Never knew that the subject of mice could be so morbid.
The segment about the mouse was hilarious. 😂 🐁
I loved this episode but I always miss Dorothy after the 1965 episodes
Me too!
She would’ve had so much fun trying to guess the profession of the mouse trap lady.
Rest In Peace, Harry Belafonte! Thanks for everything!
The only time Ginger Rogers was on panel, and maybe also the last time she and Bennett Cerf were seen together on WML.
She did appear as MG in season 5 of Syndie WML, but that is all I know about her post-1966 appearances.
Harry Belafonte was so handsome 😀
Not just WAS -- he's still alive!
How cool! We have an old Sunbeam Alpine.
They had to be rather sneaky to have Harry Belafonte as a mystery guest when you would think Mark Goodson would typically have been involved in the negotiations of the celebrity talent.
The first two contestants passed away within three days of each other in December 2023 - Rosemary Smith on December 5, and Verda McCartney on December 8.
H Belafonte was an icon, a superb entertainer and activist for the civil rights movement. He shall be missed but never forgotten for we lost him yesterday, may he forever RIP.
Thank heaven Daly and panel found a way to dispatch the race car driver quickly. All that funny mouse morbidity went on for a rather long 10 minutes and threw the timing of the whole episode right off.
How in all the years I have watched WML have I managed to miss this one?
In Germany The Adaption runs 34 years. They never Changed The Host and The Team. The final Show was in 1989. The Host died in the same year.
Harry Belafonte was also The guest Star in "Our" Adaption.
The Adam West "Batman" was about a month old!
"Get back here card get back here that's the boss."
Appropriate you're posting this right now. As today is the 100th birthday of Mark Goodson!
Just felicitous timing-- I certainly didn't plan it this way!
This is a great coincidence. Happy Birthday to Mark Goodson; the greatest game show creator ever!
Goodson-Todman is easily my favorite game show Production Company. I've seen and loved many of their games, even the 80's and 90's revivals.
Before Merv Griffin came along with "Wheel of Fortune" and "Jeopardy" in the 80's, Goodson-Todman were the game show kings of first-run Syndication, along with the new "What's My Line" and "To Tell the Truth", the new "Beat the Clock", the new "Price is Right" (w/Dennis James) and 70's and 80's "Family Feud", just to name a few.
To me, Goodson-Todman is to game shows, what Nintendo is to video games, and what the Beatles are to music.
Love this show, the panel and Harry B, especially.
I know I only found this channel a few months ago, but I have to say something here about mice and fur vs. Hair. My personal experience is fur based on texture from having kicked one across my office while wearing sandals and carrying an armload of paperwork to use for preparing some production reports. Fur. End of discussion.
Wow. That would have freaked me out to have to kick a mouse out of the way while carrying an armload of paperwork! Thank you for the information.
At age six, I could sing kinda many of Harry Belafonte's songs. His daughter SHARI briefly WENT to grammar school with my brother. DAY-O, DAYAYO! DAYLIGHT COME, AND ME WANN GO HOME LOVE ALL. HIS SONGS TO THIS DAY. HE IS A REALLY GOOD HUMAN BEING TOO. (AGE 92?)
H'm. Do mice have waists?.....that's what many are thinking!
That's the genius of this programme. It's what's unsaid that happens to be the most amusing.
HEY! John Daly has just asked the very question I started this comment with!! So what was unsaid before was eventually said after all.
I wonder if Harry Belafonte got the idea of using a fake Irish voice from the contestant before him who was from Ireland?
+Johan Bengtsson Nope, he used the same accent back in '55 when he appeared, too. (Which I just now watched. I wager it's where Bennett got his 'wild' guess from.)
I'd imagine that the woman before him was pissed off when he basically did what all Americans think the Irish sound like, a leprechaun.
Brad _ just like when Europeans do an American accent- they think we all sound like we’re either from the South or New York
Here’s what’s great about these shows.... CHARM!!!! And that’s what’s missing today unfortunately.
Agree! It is so refreshing!
And Americans were paid a livable weekly wage. That disappeared in 1981.
I found an interest article on Ms.Smith, but I can't get the link to it to stick here. She was born in 1937 so she was 29 years old the year this episode was conducted. The article was written in 2010 and it said she was still driving cars at that time so at age 73 she was still driving. It would appear she is still alive in 2015, but no idea if she's still driving now. She had a very successful career in racing. She initially wanted to be a fashion designer, but turned to car racing.
Yes, Rosemary is still alive, see my comment above.
On 10 May 2017, Smith did a test drive with the show car of Renault F1 on the Circuit Paul Ricard as part of a filming day. This made her the oldest person to drive a 800bhp race car. czcams.com/video/WHL7BKNGuFs/video.html
"Batman" had started on ABC TV in January 1966.
Love Arlene's dress tonight...gorgeous
Arlene Francis was really smart.
After multiple years and on the show's anniversary, Daly is STILL having trouble keeping good time!! An impossible job, actually.
Ginger is looking really good to be 55 here
Mark Goodson: Solid. Not much to complain here.
Ginger Rogers: I don't know, I'm rather mixed. On one hand, she asked good questions, but often her guesses were incorrect than they were correct.
@Beatnik Speaking of Ginger, I actually wonder if she hated Harry Belafonte? He was blacklisted, and she was a very vocal and outspoken supporter of the Hollywood blacklist. Joseph Losey called her "one of the worst, red-baiting, terrifying reactionaries in Hollywood".
@@VahanNisanian I didn't see much hatred at all on Ginger's face when Harry B greeted the panel. In fact, she looked at him quite lovingly.
Mark Goodson has very nice skin. He looks tan and taught. Is it just me or does he resemble Hugh Hefner?
He was also guest in the German Adaption "Was bin ich?"
John gave quite a hint about the mousetrap with his waist comment.
Rosemary Smith (1937-2023) was a rally car driver who set an Irish land speed record in 1978 and, in 2017, was the oldest person to drive an 800 brake horsepower car.
21:03 RIP Harry.
Needling Mr. Daley is a rude tradition with Mr. Cerf; and it detracts from the show.
They were the best of friends. Everyone knows that.
I just looked up Rosemary Smith and today is December 12, 2023 and she just died on Dec. 5, 2023. She was a very lovely lady.
No whistles for Verda !
Just on the basis of etiquette this era is noteworthy. The men stand when they shake hands with a woman.
And the ladies tended to stand for very prominent and stately guests (Eleanor Roosevelt, Frank Lloyd Wright, etc.).
Arlene didn't ask if it was "worn" by an animal. She asked if it "went around" an animal
I always crack up at the wolf whistles from the "gentlemen" in the audience. LOL
The whistles was how men acknowledged a woman's beauty.
Now why didnt Mrs McCartney get any whistles and wolf calls?
I have found a lot of times it is only the blondes.
Bennett said rodent, but he had already lost his turn.
Bennett again pulls the mystery guest out at the very very last second. At least he wasn't bamboozled by the well done but hugely fake Irishness.
The accent probably did help to fool them a bit, even though they knew it was fake, considering that he lasted a while before his very distinct voice was recognised.
Yes he got that through his see -through mask
I can't believe he threw all those cards over TWICE with the boss sitting right there!
So happy to see Ginger on the panel. Is this her only time there?
Yes.
Only 2 down and 8 to go and they guess automobile race car driver...Yeah panel definitely fed the occupations beforehand.
rosemary smith just passed away 12/5/2023 per wikipedia
It's so sad that John Daly thought it was "more important" to comment on this woman's beauty than her talent and skill? Really? "More" important? He couldn't get his eyes off her. Rarely see John get so flustered
Everyone on the panel commented on her beauty.
Diane Newman someone wrote that John Daly thought it more important to comment on the woman’s beauty than her talent and I replied that they all commented on her beautify, noting that in my opinion , it was not meant to be offensive, but that’s just my take on it, other may feel differently.
No you've misinterpreted what he said. He was saying that she should not only be congratulated on what she does but even more so or 'more importantly' for the 'loveliness and beauty that you bring'. That is not belittling what she does but broadening her qualities to encompass how she carries herself and indeed her whole being. In fact his words are very well chosen and much better than the usual 'ladies and gentlemen, the most adorable and lovely Miss so-and-so' that presenters/interviewers normally wheel out.
I would say Daly was, as usual, very eloquent here.
Diane Newman I agree Diane : ))
@@davidsanderson5918 I agree with you completely!! That's very well said!
15:35
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Harry Belafonte was a pretty young thing. His daughter's not so bad, either.
He's still alive, you know.
What could possibly have prompted Arlene to ask that gorgeous woman if what she does involves a vehicle with wheels? That was totally out of left field. What's My Line 2.0, which was hosted by Wally Brunner, frequently had a segment where the panel would answer questions the audience submitted in writing on cards. I recall one time an audience member accused the panel of cheating in the question. Arlene really took umbrage. I understand where that audience member was coming from because Arlene seems to pull things from thin air, like with that beautiful lady race car driver.
@F Je. The panel never cheated. They just ask extremely logical questions. Arlene Francis knew that a lot of times WML likes to have contestants who usually have occupations that don't fit their appearances. Then, she just took it from there. I watched a lot of episodes where the panel wasn't even close to guessing the occupation of a contestant after 10 tries. That woman in the audience was just jealous of Arlene's intelligence.
I saw that episode. Arlene responded she has been doing the show for 20 years. She knows how to play. There are staple questions. You hear them over and over. When you have a person who makes false teeth for cows you learn to hunt for or rule out such obscurities. Dorothy Kilgallen often likes to compare things to a telephone booth the way Steve Allen does for a breadbox. She only started doing that after there was a contestant who sold telephone booths stumped the panel.
@@lynettepalecek3141 I always suspected that the panel never cheated and for the most part, panel members were quick to disqualify themselves from guessing if they knew or were acquainted with the guest beforehand. However, one episode in particular was curious to me and that was the one where John Q Lewis filled in on the panel for Fred Allen one night, and Allen happened to be the celebrity mystery guest. Lewis immediately called the guest "sir" before ascertaining the guest's gender, and then subsequently guessed Allen on his next round of questioning. Quite suspicious, I thought.
@@deejay8403 I watched that episode that you're talking about. Steve Allen gave himself away with his voice. He couldn't hide the fact that he was a man. Robert Q Lewis guessed that the mystery guest was Steve Allen after a few questions. I have also seen Robert Q Lewis disqualify himself when he knew who the mystery guest was.
Ginger Rogers (blindfolded) = Ellie Goulding?
1966 and still no black panelist?
There had been black panelists, but not many, before 1966. In fact, Harry Belafonte was the first, in the late 50s.
Sammy Davis Jr. appeared on the panel
It's a shame racism was ripe back in the days 💯
Don't be so bloody stupid.
Cheater cerf
BENNETT CERF DID NOT CHEAT!! He read the latest news on all of the celebrities and what they were doing for the entire month. He was very smart by doing that. You need to stop showing your extreme jealousy!!
@@lynettepalecek3141 Bennett's wife Phyllis was clued into the identity of the mystery guest many times by someone on the WML staff. She would slip the word to Bennett who I imagine had a great deal of control over her.
@@joelfogelsanger5773 🤣🤣🤣🤣. I'm not going to be brainwashed into believing the flat out lies that Google, CZcams, Facebook, and Wikipedia say about the decent celebrities. If you want to be gullible enough to believe such nonsense that's your choice. I'm too smart to believe it. Everything that you said in your comment to me were lies.
@@joelfogelsanger5773 Prove it
These panelists were very smart people. Stupid people routinely accuse smart people of cheating. You're saying a lot more about yourself than about Cerf.